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We will be getting our update!

From the Motorola website:
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...ldYaksyY0VsIiwic2Vzc2lvbklEIjoiV1hqSzJjRWwifQ..

I would be surprised if we didn't. It's only a matter of how much time Motorola decides to take pushing this update.
Moto X | Stock Unrooted

abiezer said:
From the Motorola website:
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...ldYaksyY0VsIiwic2Vzc2lvbklEIjoiV1hqSzJjRWwifQ..
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Sweet! Now we just need a date.

dapezboy said:
Sweet! Now we just need a date.
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I actually reckon we shouldn't get a date.. Issues may pop up that may delay release.. Remember the feeling of frustration when Punit Soni announced that Dev editions would be released in days and it didn't happen for weeks?
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dr3wster said:
I actually reckon we shouldn't get a date.. Issues may pop up that may delay release.. Remember the feeling of frustration when Punit Soni announced that Dev editions would be released in days and it didn't happen for weeks?
Sent from my XT1058
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Funny you mention that:
"We are moving directly to 4.4. I dont like to discuss timing. It just puts a lot of stress on the team, and there is always a chance we find something which delays us a bit.
Rest assured, we are on it. You have seen the speed with which we are moving as a Google company, that shall continue."
- Punit Soni, https://plus.google.com/+PunitSoni/posts/LAKKMnEE6CQ , scroll way down (or just Ctrl-F a phrase from that quote)
I'm just looking forward to all the awesome things we have in store; just got my MotoX yesterday and got it activated today; less than 12 hours with an activated and working phone, and I love everything it does already. Getting 4.4 is just icing on the cake for me.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm equally impatient lol... But then again, the Moto X runs amazingly on 4.2.2 already
Sent from my XT1058

I'm just wondering, will the bootloader have to be relocked in order to receive the OTA?

sookster54 said:
I'm just wondering, will the bootloader have to be relocked in order to receive the OTA?
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No, just like the previous update, someone will come up with a flashable zip.

sookster54 said:
I'm just wondering, will the bootloader have to be relocked in order to receive the OTA?
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The bootloader does not have to be relocked! just make sure that you flash back to stock format including your recovery. And you'll be able to take any and all updates. After you update to Kit Kat you should be able to flash superuser zip in CWM or TWRP. To gain Root.
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(

matt99017d said:
The bootloader does not have to be relocked! just make sure that you flash back to stock format including your recovery. And you'll be able to take any and all updates. After you update to Kit Kat you should be able to flash superuser zip in CWM or TWRP. To gain Root.
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
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OK that makes sense, I can always restore back to stock then.

I'm keeping my hopes high and my expectations low. I still remember the Atrix after all. New Motorola or not, even if they plan to ship out 4.4 quickly, there is still the carrier issue. I'll believe it when the soak invites go out.
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I kept telling all you guys that Motorola was skipping 4.3 and going directly for kit Kat now its come to fruition. You're welcome

Hi,
I have my moto x with the last OTA, i kept root with a tuto that's here.
I want to flash the stock firmware with rsd, my question is if it will take it as downgrade.
I want to wait for KitKat un-rooted.
Thanks

[Early Warning] DO NOT TAKE OTAs after upgrading to Lollipop

If you've upgraded to the new Lollipop 5.0.1 update (N910VVRU1BOAF) for Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (N910V):
MAKE SURE YOU NEVER TAKE ANY OTA
unless/until
IT IS CONFIRMED THAT IT IS SAFE TO UPGRADE/DOWNGRADE
or
A dev has made a SAFE UPGRADE via Odin or recovery-flashable .ZIP​
One of the main advantages of this update is that you can use ODIN to go back to KK 4.4.4 at anytime, since the bootloader isn't incremented.
For Retail Edition: This is very important if you want to gain ROOT access when available & keep it over OTAs then.
For Developer Edition: Some of you have taken the OTA & restored his aboot backup via Odin. This was fine ONLY for this update. However, if the bootloader is incremented with any coming OTA, it'll block your unlocked bootloader for good & you'll end up with a Retail Edition. Moreover, if you were able to restore your aboot over an incremented bootloader using ADB/dd/etc utilizing ROOT access, you'll most likely HARD BRICK your device since the other critical partitions (TZ, SBL, ... etc) can break boot sequence due to failure in signature verification or version check.

Do we know if the updates will automatically install after a period of time?
I'm still on 4.4.4 NJ5, and the dialog pops up periodically. I am running without using the "no OTA" script at the moment. Has anyone experienced the phone update by itself after a while?

^^^I'm not sure, but I've been postponing mine since the Ota was pushed.

Hibby- said:
Do we know if the updates will automatically install after a period of time?
I'm still on 4.4.4 NJ5, and the dialog pops up periodically. I am running without using the "no OTA" script at the moment. Has anyone experienced the phone update by itself after a while?
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droidx2.3.3 said:
^^^I'm not sure, but I've been postponing mine since the Ota was pushed.
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It's recommended to disable the OTA & manually update whenever you wish, if it's safe.

When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"

itspeat said:
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
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I believe your looking for "SDM"

rhilway said:
I believe your looking for "SDM"
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You are correct.

Manually updating
hsbadr said:
It's recommended to disable the OTA & manually update whenever you wish, if it's safe.
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Know where I can grab the 5.01 firmware? I've already debloated / disabled OTA's, etc.
Also, I'm going to want to flash it through Odin, right? I'm on the retail edition (N910V)
Much Appreciated

Nameless crowd face said:
Know where I can grab the 5.01 firmware? I've already debloated / disabled OTA's, etc.
Also, I'm going to want to flash it through Odin, right? I'm on the retail edition (N910V)
Much Appreciated
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For Retail Edition, follow instructions here to flash N910VVRU1BOAF_FullFirmware.tar.md5.7z!

So if if I upgraded to Lollipop can I still downgrade back to Kit Kat?

hsbadr said:
For Retail Edition, follow instructions here to flash N910VVRU1BOAF_FullFirmware.tar.md5.7z!
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Thank you again man

samhainww said:
So if if I upgraded to Lollipop can I still downgrade back to Kit Kat?
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I did last night, just use Odin to flash the NJ5 firmware, when it tries to boot the first time it will bootloop. Pull the battery, replace the battery and boot to recovery (vol up+home+power) then wipe data. The phone will boot to the setup wizard for KK.

I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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starbuckk said:
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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From what I understand, its been confirmed that you can downgrade back to KK from 5.01. However, any updates thereafter (esp. OTA's through your carrier) have the potential to take away that ability to downgrade. A good example of this is the situation that happend with Verizon's Galaxy S4. The Update after MDK locked both the bootloader and the ability to downgrade back to MDK. No one was able to figure out how to downgrade back to MDK and only those fortunate enough not to have taken the update after mdk could flash custom roms that weren't touchwiz based (ie aosp). Since we don't know what the future holds for root on this device, its wise to keep all of your avenues open.

starbuckk said:
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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Nameless crowd face said:
From what I understand, its been confirmed that you can downgrade back to KK from 5.01. However, any updates thereafter (esp. OTA's through your carrier) have the potential to take away that ability to downgrade. A good example of this is the situation that happend with Verizon's Galaxy S4. The Update after MDK locked both the bootloader and the ability to downgrade back to MDK. No one was able to figure out how to downgrade back to MDK and only those fortunate enough not to have taken the update after mdk could flash custom roms that weren't touchwiz based (ie aosp). Since we don't know what the future holds for root on this device, its wise to keep all of your avenues open.
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+1
Another example, some Note 3 users fall into the trap of 4.4.4 OTA update & with no option to downgrade, they lost root, custom TW ROMs, and almost everything. Now, they're waiting with Note 4 users for a root method to rejoin the party while Note 3 on 4.4.2 can be rooted using TowelRoot.

Which tool?
itspeat said:
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
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All of the debloat tools that I find require root, which are you using?

There's a script that someone wrote to disable Ota and debloat. It doesn't need root. Sacher around on here for it

So would it be a bad idea to update just using the software update in the phones settings menu? Or should I do it by running odin? What actual difference does this make? Will this cause me issues once we do have a root method for this device?

As of now it makes no difference.

Stupid question, but how do you turn off automatic OTA on lollipop?

ASUS cancelled 2.19.40.18 OTA

guys
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=14836&pid=107979
asus said they cancelled this update due to unstable update...
1st i dont know what is unstable in this version[same as previous and new bug of call screen animation
2nd lol which update came without new bugs?
3rd they removed after they heard about unlocking bootloader..something fishy right :laugh:

they will probably patch the unlock method with the next update, gonna unlock the bootloader before updating to next update.
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luisoman2000 said:
they will probably patch the unlock method with the next update, gonna unlock the bootloader before updating to next update.
Sent from my ASUS_Z008D using Tapatalk
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ya same here..but what they will do to unlocked phones/??

ansebovi said:
ya same here..but what they will do to unlocked phones/??
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Maybe there just will be a check and it will abort if the BL is unlocked
But it should be easy to adapt these OTA updates to unlocked devices

ansebovi said:
ya same here..but what they will do to unlocked phones/??
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Nothing they can do. As long as you don't flash an OTA or full stock build. They may have a way to patch it in their droidboot.

ansebovi said:
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3rd they removed after they heard about unlocking bootloader..something fishy right :laugh:
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That was my first guess as well

TheSSJ said:
Maybe there just will be a check and it will abort if the BL is unlocked
But it should be easy to adapt these OTA updates to unlocked devices
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no i am asking about bootloader[can they lock it somehow if we flash next ota]
Harfainx said:
Nothing they can do. As long as you don't flash an OTA or full stock build. They may have a way to patch it in their droidboot.
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so how can we update from here after ??? need to modified by someone for flashing ???
jaysus145 said:
That was my first guess as well
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ya my 1st thought too,, haha

ansebovi said:
so how can we update from here after ??? need to modified by someone for flashing ???
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That's how it works with all custom work. Once you're off stock, you're going to have to wait for someone to post a safe update/install.
Rushing in and taking an OTA is a very common way of breaking your build. Like what we see with running an OTA while rooted. Any number of problems can come up.
They could patch any number of things that would give you a very bad day.
With the support we have here though, we'll probably have flashable, safe OTA zips within a few hours of an OTA being captured/downloaded.

Harfainx said:
That's how it works with all custom work. Once you're off stock, you're going to have to wait for someone to post a safe update/install.
Rushing in and taking an OTA is a very common way of breaking your build. Like what we see with running an OTA while rooted. Any number of problems can come up.
They could patch any number of things that would give you a very bad day.
With the support we have here though, we'll probably have flashable, safe OTA zips within a few hours of an OTA being captured/downloaded.
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well i am from sony device..they release main update of android..and 1 bug fix,thats all...so we dont care..and no need to worry about relocking issues..
this is the first asus device...man they releasing update for every 10days..i thought we could apply just like that..but since they didnt gave unlocked bootloader tool ,i got these doubt..
and thanks for info..
so i must wait for zips which is modified for unlocked bootloader[if they trying to relock]

I honestly doubt they're going to find a way to relock it with an update, but who knows what voodoo they may come up with.
Either way, we'll grab the updates and get them ready to be flashed quickly. It's a simple process.

I highly doubt he will do anything regarding unlocking/locking bootloader. because:
1. last year they released their official tool to unlock zenfone 4,5,6 bootloader after 3-4 months of release.
2. This year when they launched the zf2 in US they hold contest and developer events via xda. Now xda is a place where no one keeps their bootloader locked. so they knew exactly where they are releasing and advertising the product.
So I dont think they would even bother about this bootloader . Maybe it is an unstable build in terms of their quality test.

Dang, and my 551 (2/16GB) is still in transit.
Was browsing the forum and this thread - has 2.19 been captured and saved somewhere else, or was everyone just downloading off ASUS servers for this OTA (when forced)?
I don't know if I would want 2.19 yet. Maybe to keep on my PC until the right time. That is, if 2.20 comes out and the BL hole is plugged, and those who were on 2.19 (and took advantage of the bootloader unlocking) still got the update successfully - if either of those two outcomes are false, I wouldn't use it.

joel.maxuel said:
Dang, and my 551 (2/16GB) is still in transit.
Was browsing the forum and this thread - has 2.19 been captured and saved somewhere else, or was everyone just downloading off ASUS servers for this OTA (when forced)?
I don't know if I would want 2.19 yet. Maybe to keep on my PC until the right time. That is, if 2.20 comes out and the BL hole is plugged, and those who were on 2.19 (and took advantage of the bootloader unlocking) still got the update successfully - if either of those two outcomes are false, I wouldn't use it.
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Everthings here http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/ota-links-stock-rom-t3093999

android is open source. and roms are not illegal. so why bother? i don't think asus is interested on ours bootloader plus, other zenfone's are already unlocked

joel.maxuel said:
Dang, and my 551 (2/16GB) is still in transit.
Was browsing the forum and this thread - has 2.19 been captured and saved somewhere else, or was everyone just downloading off ASUS servers for this OTA (when forced)?
I don't know if I would want 2.19 yet. Maybe to keep on my PC until the right time. That is, if 2.20 comes out and the BL hole is plugged, and those who were on 2.19 (and took advantage of the bootloader unlocking) still got the update successfully - if either of those two outcomes are false, I wouldn't use it.
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Even if your phone gets here on a newer version (it won't), you could always downgrade everything and unlock from there. =)
Shakalaka has backups of everything going back to like version 2.12 or 2.13.

MatteXperiaU said:
android is open source. and roms are not illegal. so why bother? i don't think asus is interested on ours bootloader plus, other zenfone's are already unlocked
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Problem is they can't support any ROM that isn't official on the zenfone. They'll pass you off. Like most manufacturers.

These are just official update links from Asus. Not backups. Asus can shut those down at any point. Not saying they will.
See here for pre-rooted ROM backups:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/orig-development/rom-pre-root-img-t3079590

one more doubt..
i think 2.17 is stable build from asus without the android os drinking the battery
now i have unlocked the bootloader ,can i reflash the 2.17[asking since it doesnt have the things which enabled to unlock bootloader] ...or once unlocked,we can do anything like other brands phone?

damian5000 said:
These are just official update links from Asus. Not backups. Asus can shut those down at any point. Not saying they will.
See here for pre-rooted ROM backups:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/orig-development/rom-pre-root-img-t3079590
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I downloaded the appropriate OTA the other night, so if ASUS pulls the file, I still have it and can share it on Dropbox and/or Copy.
I get the phone today! So hopefully tonight I get the OTA up to 2.18 and then wait to see what upcoming 2.20 has to offer. If we can still unlock the BL with 2.20, I will let that OTA happen. Similarly if we find out that those who unlocked their bootloaders can't take the update (at that point I will cry a little, if there is no official way to unlock BL released with the update ).
If both scenarios above are false, then I will apply my downloaded 2.19, unlock the bootloader, then accept 2.20.
Best one could do eh?
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ansebovi said:
one more doubt..
i think 2.17 is stable build from asus without the android os drinking the battery
now i have unlocked the bootloader ,can i reflash the 2.17[asking since it doesnt have the things which enabled to unlock bootloader] ...or once unlocked,we can do anything like other brands phone?
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I cannot imagine it would re-lock the bootloader. Should be able to downgrade, as long as you use the whole image and not just the OTA zip.
Now you got me wondering....

joel.maxuel said:
I cannot imagine it would re-lock the bootloader. Should be able to downgrade, as long as you use the whole image and not just the OTA zip.
Now you got me wondering....
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no i didnt mean it will relock,..
but the unlocked needed some file right..it modifies something right? ...and it is not present in old things..so can old fw run on unlocked bootloader? [or would it get bootloop or damage bootloader]

Request Soak test 2 NPN26.118-10

To all the community of Moto z Play that were stuck in the June patch compilation NPN26.107 ...
The statement is made to share or search for the soak test 2 NPN26.118-10​
Its weight is approximated to 180 MB and it is the necessary patch to not make the downgrade to the version of April ... And to be able to have the July version Official of Android 7.1.1
Those who know more forums Deep please contribute, otherwise we have to open the bootloader and downgrade ...
image:
https://www.mediafire.com/?7zfrp17pwi0ivc8

And downgrading then trying to upgrade risks bricking. Mine is now bricked

I'm sure if someone had captured the OTA, it would have been shared by now.

No patch said friend and look like crazy over the network and there is no other than downgrade I did it as it comes in XDA and it works without problem I am currently in 7.1.1 official and the performance is incredibly better battery Hard but the animations faster everything is better just follow the steps to the letter and will work the mine is from mexico AT & T

Anybody tried to contact lenovo?

juands said:
No patch said friend and look like crazy over the network and there is no other than downgrade I did it as it comes in XDA and it works without problem I am currently in 7.1.1 official and the performance is incredibly better battery Hard but the animations faster everything is better just follow the steps to the letter and will work the mine is from mexico AT & T
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Dude which steps did u follow to flash it, considering that I'm on Custom Rom

Retapac got npn26.118-22 yesterday
Retapac got npn26.118-22 yesterday

ChopinWong said:
Retapac got npn26.118-22 yesterday
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So? That's not a topic.

ChopinWong said:
Retapac got npn26.118-22 yesterday
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Hi what version did you have before receiving NPN26.118.22? Thanks

iron maiden said:
Hi what version did you have before receiving NPN26.118.22? Thanks
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the one with may security patch, should be NPN25.137-24-3.3 if not wrong...

waiting

I think we'll be waiting forever and ever...

Admin of mirrors. Lolinet soon upload stock images don't unlock your phone
Just wait for right time

kvilpura said:
Admin of mirrors. Lolinet soon upload stock images don't unlock your phone
Just wait for right time
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With the stock rom 7.1.1 could I sideload it without unlocking the bootload? Would I have the risk of hard brick in future OTA upgrades doing this?
I'm stuck on the soak test NPN26.107

zeu87 said:
With the stock rom 7.1.1 could I sideload it without unlocking the bootload? Would I have the risk of hard brick in future OTA upgrades doing this?
I'm stuck on the soak test NPN26.107
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the images on lolinet aren't digitally signed, the only way to flash them is to unlock the bootloader.

timster01 said:
the images on lolinet aren't digitally signed, the only way to flash them is to unlock the bootloader.
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But this images are the second soak test?

allrightlite said:
But this images are the second soak test?
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No, that file was never released.

timster01 said:
the images on lolinet aren't digitally signed, the only way to flash them is to unlock the bootloader.
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But do not have any rom 7.1.1 that will come with digital signature? I do not want to lose my warranty.
I bought my moto z play two months ago. :crying:

zeu87 said:
But do not have any rom 7.1.1 that will come with digital signature? I do not want to lose my warranty.
I bought my moto z play two months ago. :crying:
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Yes, happend, too. That's hard. But phone is working

talktosam said:
pls hangout me [email protected] i need more about LOS,
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There is no much to say. Works very good, because we have the snapdragon chip. Wouldn't be so good, if we would be on Kirin, for example (see it on P8 Lite). Z Play is very good for custom roms. Good future So keep kewl

Question: Unlock the bootloader before or after upgrading to Oreo 8.1

We have a new G5 Plus (running stock Nougat) that is prompting for the OTA update to Oreo.
Question: Will the bootloader be unlockable after the update to Oreo?
I intend to unlock the bootloader, but sometimes the ability to unlock it is blocked after an update like this. Sometimes, unlocking the BL before an update blocks the update.

DECloyd said:
We have a new G5 Plus (running stock Nougat) that is prompting for the OTA update to Oreo.
Question: Will the bootloader be unlockable after the update to Oreo?
I intend to unlock the bootloader, but sometimes the ability to unlock it is blocked after an update like this. Sometimes, unlocking the BL before an update blocks the update.
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You can unlock the bootloader in oreo also.

riyan65 said:
You can unlock the bootloader in oreo also.
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Great! Thanks!
BTW, in your opinion, do you think that the G5 Plus will get updates past Oreo?
That might seem like an unrelated question, but I'm looking at the idea of adding some audio mods that require root and don't mind waiting until the official updates have settled down. Then I'll unlock, root, etc.

DECloyd said:
Great! Thanks!
BTW, in your opinion, do you think that the G5 Plus will get updates past Oreo?
That might seem like an unrelated question, but I'm looking at the idea of adding some audio mods that require root and don't mind waiting until the official updates have settled down. Then I'll unlock, root, etc.
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Only via flashed custom ROMs will system software past Oreo exist on the G5 Plus. G series phones get slated for one major system update.

It would be better if you atleast get the unlock code while on nougat. There are issue in Oreo. Some people were having issues where the unlock data provided by the phone was said to be incomplete when pasti g it on Moto's site in order to get the unlock code.

debdeep98 said:
It would be better if you atleast get the unlock code while on nougat. There are issue in Oreo. Some people were having issues where the unlock data provided by the phone was said to be incomplete when pasti g it on Moto's site in order to get the unlock code.
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Thanks! I will do that.

DECloyd said:
Thanks! I will do that.
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It is done. Thank you!

DECloyd said:
It is done. Thank you!
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Great:good: