.....connected to my laptop all the apps I have located on my ext SD card disappear which I understand but when my Atrix is unplugged the apps I have stored don't reappear on my home screens.
They have to be manually put back on.
Does anyone know why this is.....it's doing my head in.
I'm running the Alien 4 rom with Faux123 kernel if that matters.
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Paul
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I don't understand why people move apps to sd on a phone that doesn't need it.
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For the same reason you cant access anything else on the SD card when in storage mode, the OS has to unmount it while the computer has access, thus you cant use anything on it including apps, this is normal.
To the first reply, cause I want to and to the second, read my question again. I said I know why they disappear when connected but don't know why they don't return when the device is unplugged.
Never had the problem on either of my 2 desires and wondered if it was Atrix or maybe ROM specific.
Don't post unless you can help. Thanks.
Ah i missed that part :-(..... In that case no idea never tried it as I have 1.2GB free of app storage.
Do they appear in the apps list?
Tried restarting the phone?
Tried a media scan (not sure if it will pick up apps)
Sounds like your ROM is not scanning the sdcard after remounting it.
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No probs Nap and thanks Dennis, tried it mate but no joy.
Looks like I'll just use internal storage for ease from now as it gets boring adding them all back after a while.
Thanks anyway tho
you could always buy the dual mount SD program, best .99c I have spent so far. It allows you to mount and still access the sd on the phone. it is very helpful for me.
I had an issue with my ringtones that are located on storage being jacked up during mounts. the issue would occur when I had a notification, call, text, anything that made a noise that used a custom tone while mounted to a PC. After unmount the notification would either revert to default or choose a completely random tone.
I downloaded dualmount a few months back and that issue was resolved. I havent had to reset my notifications except when I flashed to CM, and I can live with that
This is my first phone that uses MTP. My last phone had an SD Card, and used USB Mass Storage, so I'm not sure if this is normal behavior for MTP.
I plug the phone in, and the only way the computer recognizes it as a storage device is to have USB Debugging off, and the phone set to "Connected as a Media Device (MTP)". If I set it to connect as a camera, it only sees the DCIM and pictures folder, and it only works if USB Debugging is turned ON. So that's the first weird thing.
All I really have installed driver-wise is the stock android drivers that are included in the SDK, installed using the device manager method. I am rooted stock, running Franco.Kernel.
I am connecting to the computer using the cable that came with the phone, although I have tried 4 other cables and they all return the same result.
What happens is, I plug in the phone, and it pops up in My Computer as "Nexus 4, Portable Media Player". So I click on that, then click on Internal Storage, the only available option. It takes about 5 seconds to load up all the files.
I am trying to back up all the files on my External Storage before I flash a ROM. I know it's not necessary, but better safe then sorry. So I highlight all the files, and drag them into a directory on my computer. And a dialogue pops up that says "Estimating time required to transfer files" or something like that. And it just sits there. I let it sit for about 15 minutes, and after it did nothing for that time, I hit cancel. To get it to fully cancel, however, I had to disconnect the phone and reconnect it.
So now I'm trying to do everything 1 by 1. Transfer 1 folder at a time. The smaller folders work fine, although they're still incredibly slow. Over a minute for a folder with 2 Megabytes of data in it? That can't be right. But then I hit the bigger folders, such as the "Android Folder" where all the big games are stored. So I drag that folder into the directory on my computer, and it spends about 25-30 minutes "Estimating time required to transfer files". Then it starts the transfer. It says it will be about 2-3 hours. There's around 3 GB of data in the folder, according to right clicking on it and clicking properties, so I guess that's a semi-reasonable amount of time, but still pretty slow compared to my old phone. But then, after about 20 minutes of copying data, it just stops. It looks like it has finished, but upon going through the directory on my computer, and comparing it to the one on the phone, it has only transferred about half of the files. So I try again, repeating the above process. And the same exact thing happens. It always stops at ~1 GB out of the 2.7 it should be copying over.
What gives? This is literally the most frustrating thing ever right now. I just want to flash PA so badly but I can't get my stuff to copy over!
Please help! Thanks so much!
The good news, that's normal.
The bad news, that's normal.
Try pulling your sdcard via ADB, it's more reliable.
CMNein said:
The good news, that's normal.
The bad news, that's normal.
Try pulling your sdcard via ADB, it's more reliable.
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That's so bad if that's normal. Why Google switched to MTP is beyond me. Another weird issue is sometimes it can take forever for the filesystem to update on my computer. I can put an apk file that I downloaded to my phone on the root of the external storage. Then, when I plug it in to my computer to transfer it off, it won't be there. I reboot, it still isn't there. After searching and searching, I went back, unplugged the phone, plugged it back in for the 20th time, and it randomly shows up. So frustrating.
Anyway... what's the command for adb pulling that? I know the external storage is called something like /emulated/0 or something. So would it be adb pull /emulated/0 C:\Users\blahblahblah?
Mines doesn't take 5 seconds to load up. Very speedy for me on transferring files back to back. On Windows 7 SP1.
We didn't do this because we wanted to use ext3 (although that is a side benefit.) We did it because we wanted to be able to merge the "public shared storage" (i.e. for music and photos) with the internal private app storage.
We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
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is the reason why they used MTP. I personally prefer MTP even though some people always encounter problems with it and I have none. It's very handy on devices with a SDCard as well as Internal Storage, rather than having two of them pop up on "My Computer" it is merged into one and you can select which one you want to go into. Sometimes people are confused which one is which. Not to mention if you have an app that relies on data on the "sdcard" (internal storage) and it is currently plugged into the computer. It won't be able to read that data because it is in USB mass storage mode.
Certainly your situation is not normal.
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Mines doesn't take 5 seconds to load up. Very speedy for me on transferring files back to back. On Windows 7 SP1.
is the reason why they used MTP. I personally prefer MTP even though some people always encounter problems with it and I have none. It's very handy on devices with a SDCard as well as Internal Storage, rather than having two of them pop up on "My Computer" it is merged into one and you can select which one you want to go into. Sometimes people are confused which one is which. Not to mention if you have an app that relies on data on the "sdcard" (internal storage) and it is currently plugged into the computer. It won't be able to read that data because it is in USB mass storage mode.
Certainly your situation is not normal.
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That is not the reason. The reason is Google is slyly forcing us into a thin client platform ala chrome book and nexus. If Google doesn't start releasing nexus with at the very minimum larger storage, I.e. minimum 32gb on nexus, (would rather have SD slot) they will probably lose me as a client altogether. Yes I will probably still use Google maps at the very minimum but everything else I am in no way attached. The cloud is a poor replacement for local storage, and yes I too think off site storage will be a major factor in the future but give us larger storage options during this transitional phase. The cloud is slow, data is expensive, data is not widely available like oxygen is, I don't want to stream music, much less have any possibility of commercials and ads during my musical nirvana and transcoding my FLACs/wav's into 320 kbps mp3 is just piss poor bull**** and a very good reason why people should NOT willingly sign up for cloud services. Handing over ownership of your data and getting a lesser quality experience in return is just asinine and stupid. And Google drive is a poor excuse of cloud management and how come Google isn't forcing more developers to implement Drive and/or cloud services into android ecosystem, much less Google themselves just screams how bad Google wants to shove an apple up your anus.
I voided my warranty.
Let's not turn this into an argument over why mtp sucks. I'd just really like to know how to fix my problem.
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That is not the reason. The reason is Google is slyly forcing us into a thin client platform ala chrome book and nexus. If Google doesn't start releasing nexus with at the very minimum larger storage, I.e. minimum 32gb on nexus, (would rather have SD slot) they will probably lose me as a client altogether. Yes I will probably still use Google maps at the very minimum but everything else I am in no way attached. The cloud is a poor replacement for local storage, and yes I too think off site storage will be a major factor in the future but give us larger storage options during this transitional phase. The cloud is slow, data is expensive, data is not widely available like oxygen is, I don't want to stream music, much less have any possibility of commercials and ads during my musical nirvana and transcoding my FLACs/wav's into 320 kbps mp3 is just piss poor bull**** and a very good reason why people should NOT willingly sign up for cloud services. Handing over ownership of your data and getting a lesser quality experience in return is just asinine and stupid. And Google drive is a poor excuse of cloud management and how come Google isn't forcing more developers to implement Drive and/or cloud services into android ecosystem, much less Google themselves just screams how bad Google wants to shove an apple up your anus.
I voided my warranty.
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that's all conspiracy about taking off MTP or SDCARDS in favor of their cloud service but i do agree with you, the 8GB/16GB combo was kind of silly, they should of done 16GB/32GB to the very least, as a person who lives in NYC and takes the subway. I won't always have service because underground we don't get any (we're starting too.. but it depends on which stations you're at) so the cloud isn't a viable option for me and it shouldn't be for most people anyway because of the data caps that carriers impose on them.
16GB is enough for me, but still would of been nice for a 32GB version. I hoped google learned from 8GB/16GB format for the N7 but guess not. should of been 16GB/32GB for N4 and I'd be pretty upset if they discontinued 8GB in favor for a 16GB/32GB as i paid for a 32GB at ~$349.
of course, google isnt telling everybody to get a nexus device. there are other alternatives out there such as galaxy s, note, etc. I personally like nexus devices for community support when it comes to custom roms and kernels.
Let's PM the devs start asking for Mass Storage support?
I hate MTP. I really really hate it. WiFi solutions (AirDroid, Samba, Total Commando) are not ideal either. I don't have to list the disadvantages, do I?
OK people, let's start a different thread so we can voice why mtp sucks. For now, can someone just tell me if what I'm experiencing is normal, and if there is a way to fix it? Or what the adb command is to pull my external storage onto my computer is? Thanks!
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KyraOfFire said:
Let's PM the devs start asking for Mass Storage support?
I hate MTP. I really really hate it. WiFi solutions (AirDroid, Samba, Total Commando) are not ideal either. I don't have to list the disadvantages, do I?
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Can't do it. It's been discussed before on the GN forums.
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Can't do it. It's been discussed before on the GN forums.
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Oh crap.... can you kindly explain why it can't be done with the Nexus 4?
I have had USB MassStorage in some ICS/JB custom ROM for other phones.
Edit: I am guessing because the sd storage is actually an emulated folder?
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OK people, let's start a different thread so we can voice why mtp sucks. For now, can someone just tell me if what I'm experiencing is normal, and if there is a way to fix it? Or what the adb command is to pull my external storage onto my computer is? Thanks!
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adb pull /sdcard/ *should* work, although I haven't done it on the N4 yet so can't confirm if the /0/ throws a wrench in the works. It will still likely be painfully slow, but it won't just stop altogether for no reason.
I'm also a big fan of adb backup/restore, saves a lot of trouble when restoring your junk, including the sdcard. To back up your apps and the sdcard it would be:
Code:
adb backup -all -nosystem -shared -apk
Code:
adb restore backup.ab
A restore of this is all, or nothing, it will restore your apps, some settings, and the sdcard after you've flashed.
I think I'm going to just backup my pictures and TI Backup files. That's all I really care about anyway. I don't have time to wait 4+ hours just to copy a few GB's off my phone.
KyraOfFire said:
Oh crap.... can you kindly explain why it can't be done with the Nexus 4?
I have had USB MassStorage in some ICS/JB custom ROM for other phones.
Edit: I am guessing because the sd storage is actually an emulated folder?
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It's emulated because in Android 4.2.X it supports multi user on tablets.
It has USB Mass Storage for other phones because that's the way the manufacturer developed the device. It supports USB Mass Storage. Phones/tablets by Google use MTP.
Google for the topic of discussion on Galaxy Nexus, I don't have the time to find it on Google. But I'm sure with some searching with google somewhere between the lines "USB mass storage on galaxy nexus possible?" would lead you into the right direction. Best thing I can say is to just believe me because if it was possible, I'm sure that it would of been done on the Galaxy Nexus already which is a one-year old device.
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I think I'm going to just backup my pictures and TI Backup files. That's all I really care about anyway. I don't have time to wait 4+ hours just to copy a few GB's off my phone.
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A 2.8 GB backup took me ~40 minutes IIRC.
Edit: and if you want to get fancy with the backups, there are other options as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
A good alternative to MTP is to just use your phone as a FTP server and move files around that way. That's what I do instead of dragging and dropping files via USB cable, I don't have any problems with MTP but I do have a problem with beating laziness
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImx1dGV5LkZUUFNlcnZlciJd
Transfers files very fast.
zephiK said:
A good alternative to MTP is to just use your phone as a FTP server and move files around that way. That's what I do instead of dragging and dropping files via USB cable, I don't have any problems with MTP but I do have a problem with beating laziness
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImx1dGV5LkZUUFNlcnZlciJd
Transfers files very fast.
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Eh, that'd be super super slow. Thanks for the recommendation though.
I'm copying over using adb pull /sdcard/ which seems to be working, although it keeps getting stuck on one file. I've deleted the file and I'm trying again though. It seems to be going a lot faster than straight copy and paste though.
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Eh, that'd be super super slow. Thanks for the recommendation though.
I'm copying over using adb pull /sdcard/ which seems to be working, although it keeps getting stuck on one file. I've deleted the file and I'm trying again though. It seems to be going a lot faster than straight copy and paste though.
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It's actually quite fast to be honest. Phone connected to WiFi of course and being on the same network (192.) aligned with FlashFXP as the FTP client on desktop. http://www.flashfxp.com/
MTP works with debugging on for me...
I've just tested my mtp speed, copied 1.5gigabyte in 2.5 minutes... theres something wrong with your mtp.
btw if your mtp driver won't install in debugging mode you can edit the wpdmtp.inf file in windows/inf.. i had to
Why does my nexus 7 screen doesn't turn on when I'm copying a file to USB stick through otg cable?
Which app are you using to transfer files ? , I am using stick mount which works very well and transfers files in background and I am able to use device,
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Which app are you using to transfer files ? , I am using stick mount which works very well and transfers files in background and I am able to use device,
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I have used stickmount, USB otg helper and also native otg in custom roms. while transferring files by solid explorer or root explorer once I turn off screen I can't turn it on again until the transfer is complete
I've noticed this too.
I'm not sure if is completely blocked out (until completion), or just horrendously slow responding to interrupts generated by screen touches/button presses. I seem to remember waking the screen up - after a huge delay - on a multi-minute data transfer.
While it is annoying, it really doesn't surprise me much; most modern OS'es seem like their UIs slow down to a crawl under heavy I/O pressure between slow mass storage devices.
I suppose one cruddy workaround is to turn off the screen timeout ahead of the long copy operation...
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While it is annoying, it really doesn't surprise me much; most modern OS'es seem like their UIs slow down to a crawl under heavy I/O pressure between slow mass storage devices.
I suppose one cruddy workaround is to turn off the screen timeout ahead of the long copy operation...
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If it we're so then it would slow down even when the screen was on instead becoming unresponsive the instant screen was turned off
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If it we're so then it would slow down even when the screen was on instead becoming unresponsive the instant screen was turned off
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Yeah ... maybe. I'm not sure. In the past, I experienced difficulty in waking other android devices that had low OC minimum frequencies that would otherwise behave just fine so long as the screen stayed on. I don't know if interrupts start to stack up, or what, but I suspect that the rate governor behavior affects this, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that a screen-off condition figures into the hueristics used by some rate governors or even kernel PM (power management) code. But that's speculation - I don't know.
I guess you could look at this as a feature rather than a bug - if you are performing a long copy, tapping on the power button tells you if it is done!
I am using file manager HD which works well in copying , although there is a 1-2 second delay in unlocking screen when copying, but still it works fine
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lorenzobjuarez said:
Hi, everyone!
I'm currently on the fence of returning my Galaxy Note 7 for an S7 Edge. I've been comparing both devices & in my personal opinion the S7 Edge does seem bit of a "downgrade" but overall I could get used to the differences over time... no big deal.
The only thing I WON'T be able to get over is the Storage Space Available on the Galaxy S7 Edge. Before I upgraded to the Note 7 I was using a 32GB LG G5 that I was able to enable Adoptable Storage on using the "Modaco" method & it turned out to work flawlessly! However, after I moved over to the Note 7 I took that same 256GB Micro SD Card in hopes to also get Adoptable Storage enabled there, but to my surprise the "Modaco" method FAILED on the GRACE UX for the Note 7 & it seems that Samsung has INTENTIONALLY disabled this feature on this new software.
I know the "Modaco" method was specifically published for the Galaxy S7 &S7 Edge but I have read some comments saying this method no longer works & now fails to enable Adoptable Storage, i'm thinking that Samsung has already pushed an update to disable it. Add to that the fact that Samsung is also most likely to push the GRACE UX software on to the S7 Edge & I think Adoptable Storage will be impossible on this device... this is just speculation though.
I have tried to use my LG G5 with only the 32GBs Internal & the 256GB SD Card as "normal" external in order to "test run" & see how it would play out with the S7 Edge... but I find 32GB's just DON'T CUT IT. I use a lot of apps & some of them use large amounts of storage for offline files like YT Music, Google Docs & Play Books that CANNOT be placed on the SD Card. Also, there are a lot of apps that CANNOT be moved over to the SD Card so the claim that "expandable storage" offsets the low Internal Storage is just UNINFORMED to say the least. The Note 7 had 64GBs and I found was "all right" with that amount, but if the S7 Edge does not have a way to enable Adoptable Storage anymore is going to really be a deal breaker now.
So I'm wondering, does anyone currently have Adoptable Storage successfully enabled on their S7 Edge? Has it broken with any updates? I would really hate to get the Nougat Update down the line & just have it break it too, so I'm trying to get a feel for what the risk here is.
ANY input from you all would be GREATLY appreciated!
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There are several mods etc available to enable adoptable storage for the s7
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Hi,
I tried out Adoptable Storage on my S7 Edge and it worked fine on the latest update in August, don't know if it still works, since I turned it back to normal external storage as I felt it to be a bit slower, it could be placebo though, I didn't run any formal test to confirm.
To enable it, I simply plugged the phone to my laptop with USB Debugging on, enabled permissions in the phone, then issued the following commands:
Code:
adb shell
sm list-disks
(take not of the sdcard label, it should be something like 179,0)
sm partition [disk label] private
OR
sm partition [disk label] mixed [ratio]
As soon as you get it done, go to settings, then storage and enable adoptable storage, move data. You probably already knew about this method, but if someone else stumble across this thread it should become useful .
As I said, I couldn't test for long, neither for the latest software updates, but since it was still fine until now, it should be okay until Android Nougat, then we should hope that Samsung doesn't disable it like they did with the Grace UX.
All the best,
~Lord
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