how can this be done so i can run certain apps?
anybody? come on guys ive searched everywhere, can it be done or not?
fixxxer2008 said:
anybody? come on guys ive searched everywhere, can it be done or not?
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What exactly are you trying to run
clules94 said:
What exactly are you trying to run
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screenshot and a cache cleaner. i do see there's a superuser permission app on my build but when i go to the terminal it says im still not root.
well i did alot of searching today and i don't think you can unlock this as technically we don't have a g1 or hero phone. we are running an image from a sd card. i still wonder how i can get root access to run certain apps? has anybody else addressed this issue because i can't find an answer.
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well i did alot of searching today and i don't think you can unlock this as technically we don't have a g1 or hero phone. we are running an image from a sd card. i still wonder how i can get root access to run certain apps? has anybody else addressed this issue because i can't find an answer.
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umm.....open the terminal and type su?
zenulator said:
umm.....open the terminal and type su?
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i did, it says permission denied!
well i think what im looking for is to become a superuser to be able to run certain market apps such as screenshot and a cache cleaner. ive searched everywhere here and on ppcgeeks with no luck. i did see something about a script that can allow certain apps at launch to run in superuser mode, is there anything like that at all? sorry if i keep asking but it's bugging me to no end and im sorta stuck. how did you guys get apps to run in root mode? is there a command i need to enter int he terminal? i do know i tried su and it said permission denied for me?
by the way what is the superuser permissions app i see on my build of cupcake? i launch it and it does nothing?
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i did, it says permission denied!
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Using adb will always give you root access, for windows you need to install the adb drivers from my site. Remember we are using a read only root filesystem so apps that modify the root fs won't work. su in the ion build will also give you root.
Hi All,
I viewed the video posted by the Unrevoeked team a little while back about their EVO 4G root and it definitely caught my attention.
http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/comment-page-1/#comment-8123
I just noticed today they posted an update on the thread and a link to:
http://unrevoked.com/
If you follow the site they let you download unrevoked.apk
If this APK running in some way means we can root. Well It installs successfully and when you actually run it it says "done." So I believe it does what it is suppose to do on the Eris, I just dont know what steps to take from their.
I have tried installed 2 different superuser apks and neither seems to work. Not sure if I should be doing something else.
PS I am using unrooted OTA
jvward said:
Hi All,
I viewed the video posted by the Unrevoeked team a little while back about their EVO 4G root and it definitely caught my attention.
http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/comment-page-1/#comment-8123
I just noticed today they posted an update on the thread and a link to:
http://unrevoked.com/
If you follow the site they let you download unrevoked.apk
If this APK running in some way means we can root. Well It installs successfully and when you actually run it it says "done." So I believe it does what it is suppose to do on the Eris, I just dont know what steps to take from their.
I have tried installed 2 different superuser apks and neither seems to work. Not sure if I should be doing something else.
PS I am using unrooted OTA
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well just plug in to your pc and go to your adb command window and enter adb remount
adb shell
if you get a # you have root...
jvward said:
Hi All,
I viewed the video posted by the Unrevoeked team a little while back about their EVO 4G root and it definitely caught my attention.
http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/comment-page-1/#comment-8123
I just noticed today they posted an update on the thread and a link to:
http://unrevoked.com/
If you follow the site they let you download unrevoked.apk
If this APK running in some way means we can root. Well It installs successfully and when you actually run it it says "done." So I believe it does what it is suppose to do on the Eris, I just dont know what steps to take from their.
I have tried installed 2 different superuser apks and neither seems to work. Not sure if I should be doing something else.
PS I am using unrooted OTA
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By meaning neither one of them "work" you mean when you press on the app and all you see is a black screen thats all it will do until a program that requires root requires permission to do whatever the app was designed to do. Ohh usb debugging in setting->applications->Development-> USB debugging should be checked.
Hey,
I tested out ADB its not working and by not working I mean neither prompt for superuser permission.
doesnt work
It doesn't work sadly. The Dev's blog is shadowmite. com/blog/ (without the space) if you are looking for any followups though.
It looks like all it does is try and replace/write /system/bin/su but I can't entirely tell. This app is supposed to run something on boot so you may want to try rebooting. Also, it creates a log: /data/DxDrm/unrevoked.log
I have a nexus 6p running cm13. I have tried installing v4a multiple times but with no aveil. Ive tried every single tutorial i have come across and no matter what i end up getting one of two results.
A) i open and i click on yes on the first pop up (install/ update driver) and it freezes there for a while then says drivers installed. I dont even get the option of choosing which driver.
B ) i click install driver, i choose super high quality and reboot but i end up getting the same prompt to install drivers.
I tries every solution i could find, like deleting the audio_effects.conf file or placing files manually. Ive tried EVERYTHING. Am i missing something? Does it not work on 6.0.1? Please help, im very frustrated and dont know what to do anymore.
simple install the zip here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65955197&postcount=7917
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I have a nexus 6p running cm13. I have tried installing v4a multiple times but with no aveil. Ive tried every single tutorial i have come across and no matter what i end up getting one of two results.
A) i open and i click on yes on the first pop up (install/ update driver) and it freezes there for a while then says drivers installed. I dont even get the option of choosing which driver.
B ) i click install driver, i choose super high quality and reboot but i end up getting the same prompt to install drivers.
I tries every solution i could find, like deleting the audio_effects.conf file or placing files manually. Ive tried EVERYTHING. Am i missing something? Does it not work on 6.0.1? Please help, im very frustrated and dont know what to do anymore.
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A simple busybox issue. Try this method: www.droidorigin.com/how-to-install-viper4android-on-marshmallow-6-0
steveo17 said:
simple install the zip here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65955197&postcount=7917
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So i installed the zip but the driver status still says abnormal. However i do have the option to uninstall drivers which i never had before. I have busy box, do i need a permissive SELinux for this?
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A simple busybox issue. Try this method: l]
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Ive tries that method multiple times with no success.
Thanks for the input though.
Garry135 said:
So i installed the zip but the driver status still says abnormal. However i do have the option to uninstall drivers which i never had before. I have busy box, do i need a permissive SELinux for this?
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Its not about the zip. It is okay. It's the Busybox installer.
Use this:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.busybox
Once you have installed. Reboot and re-install drivers in V4A. And reboot again.
My driver status is still abnormal. I installed busy box to xbin. Would installing it to bin or other make a difference?
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Its not about the zip. It is okay. It's the Busybox installer.
Use this:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.busybox
Once you have installed. Reboot and re-install drivers in V4A. And reboot again.
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My driver status is still abnormal. I installed busy box to xbin. Would installing it to bin or other make a difference?
Whoops i didnt see OP about the delete of the audio file.
Are you someone who just got their Fire TV rooted and don't know exactly what you can do with it being rooted? Or maybe you haven't rooted yet because you are unsure of what you can do with it rooted? Well hopefully i can shed some light on this with a little guide on things to do, along with some tips and tricks.
First let me get started by saying never forget to make a backup of your Fire TV via TWRP before making changes or tweaks. This is not to freak you out or disparage its just good practice ii have learned in rooting devices. I will cover TWRP later.
One of the best things to come along in the rooting world of android is Xposed installer. In short Xposed is a framework apk that allows users to modify/ customize their devices. This is not done by Xposed Installer per say but the modules that you download with in Xposed installer. So i will show how to install it, how to use and modules that will be beneficial use for Fire TV fyi mouse is need to navigate Xposed.
Xposed installation
1. We need to download the following BusyBox a program that most rooted apps are dependent on here Xposed Installer v3.1.5 here along with Xposed Framework x89 sdk22 arm64 here
2. Install BusyBox however you install side loaded apks. Open BusyBox and click the install button on bottom right. On SU prompt screen grant root access. As you should for root apps you install.
3. Install Xposed Installer, there is no need to open after install because without Xposed Framework installed it doesnt work.
4 Place the Xposed v89 zip onto Fire TV internal or external storage is your choice just remember where so you can point TWRP to it.
5 Reboot into TWRP recovery, choose install, point TWRP to the Xposed zip and on right side of options choose install zip. Let TWRP run its script when it says complete simply reboot and voila Xposed is installed. NOTE it is NORMAL for the first boot to take 10 min after Xposed is installed.
Xposed Tutorial and Modules
Open Xposed installer on be careful screen prompt click box to don't show again and ok. The 3 line icon on top left is menu button. Module option is where you can see and activate modules you install. Download option is where we search for and install modules. After you download a module Fire TV will prompt you to install. Note modules wont work until activated and a reboot.
Modules i find beneficial and know are SAFE are the followingBoot Manager- this allows for you to choose what apps start on boot.
RootCloak- this is designed to hide root app detection. Im assuming it still will hide root but could be wrong worth shot right
Xposed Edge- this is the FUN one that allows a fair share customs tweaks. My fav is remapping of remote buttons ie home button goes to alternative launcher, double tap home opens netflix. Which is great for 3rd party remotes that have a lot of buttons. NOTE There is a pro version as well Note- whenever you make changes in edge you may have to reboot for changes to effect.
DISCLAIMER be careful some modules may cause problems like bootloop and worse so research before you install modules to see if they are compatible
Other Apps
These are apps recommended or useful for rooted devices and for Fire TV useADBLink-allows you connect PC t to Fire TV via adb can install apks, push/pull files, run adb shell.
Easy Fire Tools- Android app that connects to Fire TV via adb can install apps from your android device onto Fire TV, transfer files and other features.
Root Explorer- these apps allow you to manage files but also a way to install side loaded apps, find one that is root friendly so you can access system folders if ever needed.
AdBlocker- we all know why we want one for all my rooted phones always been partial to adaway.
Alternative Home Launcher- who does like Fire TV launcher, really Karen of course you would!
TV App Repo and APK Editor- For those who do use alternative launcher i mention these because TV App Repo allows you to make bookmarks into apks. APK Editor to change the icon and name of TVApp Repo apks because the names and icons are generic.
TWRP
Finally the benefits and how to use TWRP. This allows users to make a backup images of device and ability to restore it when **** goes wrong. You can also do a factory reset.
Backup- after you choose backup from main screen choose select storage and choose storage then click swipe to backup. These can take a while to do seemed like 20 mins or so. Whatever storage you chose will be the default storage until you change it. Note- I have a backup image and its size is 4.5gb so id recommend you need some sort of external storage for these. If there is not enough space backup can not be performed.
Restore- performed same way as backup.
Factory Reset- Just wanted to mention don't forget if you do this and have a backup image on Fire TV internal storage you will lose it.
Hope this helps out
@g422
Thanks for the write up!!!
To be honest, the benefits of rooting appear to be somewhat underwhelming, at least, for the Fire TV. Not a single killer feature/application ...
I do know that it is more convenient to have root than not, but appears to be in pretty subtle ways.
My main use is between SmartYouTubeTV, and Netflix. If I fumble through the Amazon launcher, I am there, and life is good!
Am I missing something?
bibikalka said:
Am I missing something?
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Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
ldeveraux said:
Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
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Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
bibikalka said:
Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
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I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
I took no offense to your comments bibikalka. I am inclined to agree that there is a limit of what to do with rooted fire tv especially compared to a phone or tablet. I started this thread to give back to xda who has kept my multiple devices over years rooted. Thread was also done in hopes of getting ideas to do and/or sharing of apps that can be helpful especially now that rooting is allowed for the general masses just not those who were able to jump on board early.
ldeveraux said:
I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
#1 reason I root a fire TV box is so I can use large NTFS drives on the USB port.
Can someone point to me how to fix sd card write permissions. I tried xiinternalsd for xposed but when i open it goes to amazon home screen
g422 said:
I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
Imho top reasons for it are Xposed Edge Pro, ad blocking via AdAway (if you use the browser) and finally, the updates issue. While unlikely, it's not impossible for Amazon to get crackin and stop the use of certain third-party apps (NIMH is a giveaway)
Edit: forgot one important one, "debloating" the OS, whether by blocking the startup or disabling packages you don't want/need to give more cpu and memory to apps you do
Without root access, it's Amazon's device; with root access, it's now your device.
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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
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For a while, updates could be blocked without root, but Amazon fixed that hole:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/disable-ota-fire-stick-t3667978
But! You want to block updates so you don't lose root, so it's a bit circular. If you don't have root, you don't care, and just update as per Amazon otas. Btw, I do have updates blocked on my fire sticks
Anyway, please keep the conversation going! We should develop a good set of must have features which are only available via root.
The main reason I root now is to debloat. Go as barebones as possible in order to improve performance. I kill all possible services that are absolutely unnecessary. I've removed Amazons GUI and use Appstarter. I just like a clean fast experience.
Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
JUSTINMARMER said:
Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
fullofhell said:
Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
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That is 100% incorrect. I see now you have a reading comprehension disability. I can't imagine how hard that must be for you and I empathize.
Obviously root is needed for magisk modules. I suggested an app to help all those without root.
Bless your heart.