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Hello all, I am very sorry if the answers to these questions are posted else where but I just could not find them.
I am looking to upgrade my XDA II and this has caught my eye. Im trying to get it on Orange, so first does anyone know a release date for Orange?
Secondly I like this and especially the WiFi capability, internet access is very important for me. How good is the WiFi capability?
Probably lastly can I answer the phone without opening it all up, I would much prefer to be able to press a button and answer like I can with the XDA, the idea of opening, looking who is calling and answering with the whole lot open or closing and ignoring is a put off really.
So can anybody help, or can people recommend this device or would they suggest I go for a different device.
Many Thanks
James
If you are heavy Phone user then you wont be happy with JJ ....
1st its PDA and then comes Phone functions with it...
As everyone agreed in here, Phone users are not yet comfortable with it...
Another honest opinion about it is... TOO COSTLY FOR NOTHING.... so if u can wait for a while.
Not true!!!
It is very good for making calls too. Use a BT headset with caller ID like the Jabra BT800 or the SonyEricsson HBH-660/662 and you wont even touch your phone to make or receive calls. BT voice dial is simply fantastic.
As a PDA, its absolutely FAB!!!
Cost factor, i agree. It is tad expensive
Thanks for the repliies, I am not to worried about the cost, Orange reckon due to my history with them it could well be free.
It just worries me that it has to be opened before you can see who is calling, it is a shame there wasnt a button to answer or dial on the front.
Also these caller ID headsets, how do they work? do they just say the number to you or am I getting the totally wrong end of the stick?
Also any ideas on price of these headsets?
I have the i-mate JasJar version of the Universal, and I am very very very impressed with it. It's a very well rounded device, and sure, there are a few quirks, but they are very minor in my opinion.
You can definitely answer and hang up the phone without opening it. There are two buttons on the side for answer and hang up, so you don't actually need to open the phone to answer. Also, if you use an application like voice command, your phone will tell you who is calling.
I use the wifi at home and I don't have any problems with it. I do wish they would have put in 802.11g, but hey, it's only for internet, so you don't really need that kind of speed just yet.
As for the bluetooth headsets, some of them support the caller ID feature via a little screen on the headset. I have heard different people say that their headset displays only the number, but others have said they display name too. I think the Jabra BT 800 is one that displays only the number with the JasJar, and I think I have heard that the SonyEricsson headsets display the name too. I am not 100% sure though.
Headsets
Can you clarify whether or not you can voice dial from a bluetooth headset WITHOUT first opening up the phone. I have seen some people say yes to this questions, and others say no.
I am happy from what I have read so far that you can ANSWER a call via bluetooth headset without opening up the EXEC, but what I really need to know is about MAKING a call via the bluetooth headset without opening the EXEC.
Thanks in advance
Mike
Hi!
I was about to buy another bluetooth headset and am seriously considering the jabra bt800.
I had a Jabra bt250v....which recently took a spin in my washing machine, now rendered worthless
The problems with my 250v were -
1. Lots of static noise (phone in my pocket)
2. Bad range
3. Most times, the voice dial wouldnt pick up, when i hit the button on the jabra (this i think is a ms ppc os problem though)
Having said that, i think the bt800 would be better due to their new DSP technology, and of course the btooth 1.2 specifications. A few questions i have though -
1. How is the audio quality when you keep your device in a tight jeans pant for instance?
2. Whats the range of the device?
3. Does the caller id display the name in my address book?
4. How's the battery life?
And the last question, is it worth buying it....and will i regret it???!
Thanks!
San
With the Universal:
- okay sound quality
- no caller name just number on the display
- good battery life as long as you run down before first full charge
- range is good but is limited by the Universal not the BT800
Yes it is worth buying but be aware that on the ear it may not feel as secure as the BT250
jah said:
With the Universal:
- okay sound quality
- no caller name just number on the display
- good battery life as long as you run down before first full charge
- range is good but is limited by the Universal not the BT800
Yes it is worth buying but be aware that on the ear it may not feel as secure as the BT250
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I heard some of the devices, when paired with, reveal the contact name in the address book too....i saw it on a couple reviews. Strange that the universal cant do something like that...
Have you tried with the latest Jasjar ROM? (with aku2?)
Thanks for your feedback Jah...
cheers,
S
@dreamtheatre, I have not tried the latest Universal ROM as I am waiting for O2 to release their version. But I do have the latest BT800 firmware for Europe. For transfer of the Contacts details you need the handfree BT profile (or is the heaset profile?) - not sure if the latest ROM supports both BT profiles though.
I have not got that working
More to the point, I can not find any settings on my universal or BT800 for remote sim or remote contact access which is needed to access the address book.
I would love to leave my universal in my bag and make a call from the headset accessing my address book.
I see no menu in the BT800 to allow this.
Hope I am wrong and someone can tell em how to do it!
I have latest t-mobile a2dp rom and latest jabra rom
@GDawes, I don't think the BT800 allows remote access, it allows previously used numbers (people who call you) to be called from the headset. I think the Tekkeon ET3000 gives you the function to access the address book, but not with the Universal as fas I know.
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GDawes said:
More to the point, I can not find any settings on my universal or BT800 for remote sim or remote contact access which is needed to access the address book.
I would love to leave my universal in my bag and make a call from the headset accessing my address book.
I see no menu in the BT800 to allow this.
Hope I am wrong and someone can tell em how to do it!
I have latest t-mobile a2dp rom and latest jabra rom
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I guess my question wasn't lucid enough....
what I meant to ask was...if the display on the headset shows the caller's name which is taken from the address book on the device.
Does it?? please tell me it does!
thanks,
San
BT800
The BT800 does not show the name even with the latest ROM. It only shows the number of the person that is calling you.
@dreamtheatre,
there are two functions:
1. When you get a call, the name of the caller is extracted from the address book
2. You can scan through your full address book from your headset to make a call
Now, for #1 I know you need both handfree and headset BT profiles, for #2 I have only seen the Tekkeon and I think some SE headsets that claim they can do this. But I think you need both BT profiles. I do not think this is the case for the Universal. I hope someone with the latest ROM can verify the BT profiles that are supported.
(my free Moto v3x supports both BT profiles and yes with my Tekkeon I can see who is calling me - but the HTC Universal may be behind the curve a bit)
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@dreamtheatre,
there are two functions:
1. When you get a call, the name of the caller is extracted from the address book
2. You can scan through your full address book from your headset to make a call
Now, for #1 I know you need both handfree and headset BT profiles, for #2 I have only seen the Tekkeon and I think some SE headsets that claim they can do this. But I think you need both BT profiles. I do not think this is the case for the Universal. I hope someone with the latest ROM can verify the BT profiles that are supported.
(my free Moto v3x supports both BT profiles and yes with my Tekkeon I can see who is calling me - but the HTC Universal may be behind the curve a bit)
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thanks for the detailed reply m8!
Its a pity that this 200kg monster cant send out a friggin name :twisted: arghhh!
again, somethings dont change.....we got to wait for our sweet monopolistic company to release a rom upgrade....we know how long that can be! (well, i actually love MS )
cheers,
S
well, you guys still didnt answer my question........
do i buy it or not??????!!!
best,
San
@dreamtheatre, after a bit of reflection I suggest you buy a modern SE BT headset with caller ID as the DSP capability (for reducing background noise etc) of the newer SE headset will better than the 2 year old design of the BT800. Also I have found the newer SE headsets to be more comfortable and lighter.
Another annoying point of bt800
The BT800 only pairs to a single device at a time.
My moto ht820 support multiple connections which is nice, I have my universal as my phone paired, and my magician with a2dp paired as an mp3 player. When I get a call it is routed throught headset and music is paused.
Wanted to connect my BT800 to laptop for Voip and mobile phone, but forced to choose 1 the other.
Also the design is not that re assuring , have the feeling it could fall off at any moment
I have the V3 BTH-8 and Im quite happy with it. i think it's cheaper, lighter, faster, better than Jabra bt800...but Im not ecstatic since it has the same problem as BT800. It just shows the number not the name. It says it's able to show the name and even browse the phone book of other models.. but not our beloved universal. I hope someone comes out with an upgrade for our phone so that i can maximize my V3 headset..
cuteangelika said:
I have the V3 BTH-8 and Im quite happy with it. i think it's cheaper, lighter, faster, better than Jabra bt800...but Im not ecstatic since it has the same problem as BT800. It just shows the number not the name. It says it's able to show the name and even browse the phone book of other models.. but not our beloved universal. I hope someone comes out with an upgrade for our phone so that i can maximize my V3 headset..
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After i saw your earlier post where you mentioned about your oled headset, thats ever since i've been thrown into a dilemma (i never knew the v3 headset existed!). Now i'm finding it hard to make a choice...
According to the feature sheet, the oled claims more (15 number history compared to 10 - i know i'm being a little anal here , and address book browsing etc.)
The problem though, I dont seem to find a distributor here in this god forsaken place :evil:
I'm trying to get it from a friend of mine who's currently in singapore....if he manages to find it, i might just end up with one of those....lets see
btw, ca....you have no major issues with it, do you? Stuff like static noise, or interference problems, or whatever may be! ??
cheers,
S
I have both the Jabra BT800 and the Tekkeon 3000. Both are good units but the Jabra has better sound quality when used with my Exec. I have also used both units with a XDA Mini S for about 2 weeks and came to the same conclusion. With the Mini S, I was able to pull the phone book but it was a pain. It allows you to scroll from a to z one name at a time, one number per name at a time. This means that if you have say 50 names with 2 numbers each (mobile number and home number) then you would have to press the button 20 times just to get to the 10 person in my phonebook and the second number for that person. When I first read about this feature I was exicited but in application it is a pain so this is not a feature I will be using. Other than that the features are pretty close and with the Tekeon coming out alittle ahead with last 15 number recall versa the last 10 of the Jabra.
The Jabra (with it's out dated looks) has become my choice for 2 reasons, sound quality (as mentioned above) and upgradability. The Jabra can be firmware upgraded by the user as Jabra releases new code so it may be possible to have new features in the future.
Just my humble opinion
Batman - agree about the scrolling problem with the Tekkeon but its battery life, for me at least, has been much better than wih the BT800. The funny thing is that my 3 year old SE HBH-200 can do basically what the BT800 is designed to do (i.e. caller ID and making calls from the headset).
WOULDNT BUY IT AT ALL.
I have installed latest ROM, and use BT800. No caller ID. But this could be sortly solved with latest firmware.
Dont like sound quality. To be more precise, almost nobody understands me while using it. If I am in the street, forget about having a conversation. Metallical sound, etc.
Despite some things I have read before, not that good battery life I'd say.
In the end, I dont like it, but check out more opinions. Mine is a little bit "oriented" as I am so with it.
@jmcl, as I said before the digital signal processing technology of the BT800 is now 2 years old. The latest SE phones are better for noise reduction or you can use the HBH-300 with a very good boom mic.
@jah
what nextgen headsets from SE are you talking about? I dont find any headsets from SE with a display on it (except for one, which is totally lame )
is there something i'm missing?
thanks for all your views guys,
San
I recently became the owner of the above phone. I have read many many posts on this forum and have gleaned many snippets of informaiton, but guys and girls, you don't half have a lot of terminology that baffles an outsider to the other side of disbelief.
I am a programmer by trade, big computers and databases, you guys have managed to confuse the hell out of me.
Anyway, a bit of advise please
My Orange MV700 works in Hands Free Mode (Phone pairs with Audi as BT handsfree) with my Audi Bluetooth (2007 A6 with MMI), in that I can access most features of the phone . last calls, missed calls, directory (Windows Contacts listed as Contactt1/W Contact2/M etc. This is good as I can store multiple numbers per contact. The only downside I believe is that I cannot benefit form using the cars inbuilt aerial which requires Remote Sim Access which I believe Orange turn off.
My Previous phone a samsung had rsap (pair to phone from car kit) but only listed one number per contact (either from phone memory [which will allow more than one number per contact] or the sim), it used the phones aerial but since the phone was so crap in the first place I was lucky to get a 30 second call without fallout.
I would consider enabling rsap on my phone if I can still have access to the windows contacts in the same way I do now, or is Sim Access limited to reading only info on the sim?
I would also consider upgrading to Windows Mobile 6 if it works on my phone and I can have the desired usage that I mentioned previously.
If anyone can make use of the firmware of my phone please let me know with instructions of how to extract and it.
Many thanks for your attention to this matter.
Cheers
I know that at the moment this isn't possible, but does anyone know if there is work being done on the Android bluetooth stack to enable a tablet to be used as a bluetooth hands-free device? A bit of searching shows that it is a regularly requested feature but I can't seem to find any info on any developers who are definitively working on this (except for one little questionable nugget that stated that the CM developers were playing with Bluetooth. Hardly enough to go on.).
I want to incorporate a Nexus 7 into my 370Z as a carpc but the lack of being able to integrate phone features is holding me back. Using data apps like grooveip are a no go for me as data connections around here aren't reliable enough for consistent daily use. Thanks in advance for any info.
I'm not to sure of what your asking, but if you wanna make calls from your tablet using BT this app allows you to do that as well as send SMS and MMS from it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk hope that helps and is what you mean
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I appreciate the suggestion but I don't think this will work. What I would like to do is mount my tablet in my car and use it as a front end for my phone to make/take calls the way an OEM bluetooth car system would normally work. My understanding is that your tablet must be paired as a hands free device, which android tablets currently don't do. I looked at Tablet Talk but when using that app from what I can gather when you accept a call on the tablet it actually activates the call on your handset. Ultimately I want to use the tablet as a hands free solution as I drive stick and holding my phone to my ear while driving is a no-no.
In the past I've used bt headsets but I lose them constantly and frankly I'm tired of replacing them. Oh well.
Well, good luck in your search! And you hit tablet talk spot on BTW lol. Oh and if you do find a solution, plz post it! This sounds like something I would love to use.
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SpungeWorthy said:
Well, good luck in your search! And you hit tablet talk spot on BTW lol. Oh and if you do find a solution, plz post it! This sounds like something I would love to use.
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Thanks. I'll thinking I'll probably go the route of a more traditional carpc for now, but if and when this becomes a feature you can take advantage of with android tablets I'll have to reevaluate the situation.
Nillaz said:
I know that at the moment this isn't possible, but does anyone know if there is work being done on the Android bluetooth stack to enable a tablet to be used as a bluetooth hands-free device?
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This would be a great extension or compliment to the various apps that let you send/receive SMSs from your tablet via your phone. If I could at least receive/answer calls too, I could leave the phone elsewhere at home.
Just to let you know I've contacted parrot and garmin with regards to something like this.
I want a solution where I can make my nexus 7 a full media center with DAB radio and a good sat nav without needing a cellular link and hands free for my phone which includes the voice commands available through the tablet.
So hopefully they will get back to me and I'll post up here what they say.
Something I haven't solved yet either is getting all the antennae feeds into the nexus, I was thinking of getting a sharks fin antennae and wiring them into a raspberry pi to then blue toothing them into the nexus, I could also then attach a HDD to the pi to use it as a server to.
I want to do it this way so I can take the 7 otu and with me if I wish, rather than having it hard wired in. also if would allow for device upgrade.
Theres a nice thread on install and with references to the tasker app to get the tablet to work with the ignition and other functionality like that;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819175
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BT app
There is an app under development for this I think. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funkyandroid.phonelink
I'm thinking of dropping a Nexus 7 in my car but the lack of hands free bluetooth is kind of a deal breaker.
Did anybody ever get this working? I have my Nexus installed in the car, and would love to be able to use it as a speakerphone. I don't need to actually be able to make the calls via the tablet, just need to be able to use it as a basic bluetooth speakerphone / headset type of thing.
It sounds like it should be something fairly simple, but I cannot seem to find much.
I have been wanting this for a long time, I'd love to be able to take my older Android phone and re-purpose it as a car GPS/Internet Radio/Handfree, etc.
I know the Samsung Galaxy player has this functionality, I wonder if any of their devs could help out.
if this work in linux so i think can work on android
Hi to all,
i been looking for this "bluetooth role" for long time. I have read a lot of forum and the entire XDA posts about this..
it seems that this is the definitive question like "what is the answer to life the universe and everything" simple 42
and it seems that is the paradise for all want to make a carputer/droid/tablet/**** car radio replacement... so... i'm one of you
this post is for some devs (i'm a dev too) i'm asking for help ....
the problem is: which android version do you want to use?
why this question? simple: from the android 4.2 google has decided to trash the bluetooth bluez stack and reimplement the wheel with bluedroid...
i read the documentation about bluedroid at this site:
https://source.android.com/devices/bluetooth.html
and there was written that there are some profiles actualy implemented but not the Bluetooth Hands-Free Profile server.
Ok it's not a problem, taking a look to the template of other profile i can implement it.
now the question is HOW DOES IT WORKS?
so i searched and bum this is how:
version 1.5
version 1.6
ok and now? and now i tried to find some similar implementations and...
after another night of search i found this....
HFP For Linux
where there is the downloadable source code.
now I think we have all the necessary to make this possible...
BUT there are some problem that i haven't resolved yet for a lack of knowledge of course.
it seems that the hfp override any other profiles on that example, it's not bad, in a system that i want to use i need only a HFP profile and AD2P togheter all the rest is useless
i think that this at the end is a fork of the standard android project and how I/we can put it into a rom or a patch and who want to add to a rom/kernel? how it can be done? is a patch better ? a new kernel like franco's or better to submit to google?
I hope to have intrigued someone with this post and I hope that somebody can link me to some documentation to understand how to put all the information I have together.
ps. i have tried to reply into this thread:
[Q] Android phone as bluetooth headset?
but of course i have to few posts to make my suggestion there
I may be out of line here but try reading about the gmate+ device.
I got one paired with my Nexus 7 32gb right now and currently using it as a phone. I believe there are other similar gadgets out there, as I've done some researches before I actually got mine to work. I have yet to try it with a bluetooth headset paired because I lost mine just on the day when I was about to try it out.
Anyway, one problem here is, the app for the device is currently not updated so there are a lot of things that need tweaking and one major issue for me is the ringtone. As I have posted here before, sine N7 does not have native ringtone, there's no alert tone for incoming calls. As for text messages, the notification alert tone works. I know there's also GPRS for it but haven't tried it out yet.
Try these options...
As far as an option for a Nexus 7 you may want to try a sip dialer like 3cx or linphone or zoiper and establish a free sip account at iptel.org or something. As long as you have wifi or a 3g connection which some tablet have you should be able to make and receive calls, or try ""Blue Fi" from the play store. it may work.
naiku said:
Did anybody ever get this working? I have my Nexus installed in the car, and would love to be able to use it as a speakerphone. I don't need to actually be able to make the calls via the tablet, just need to be able to use it as a basic bluetooth speakerphone / headset type of thing.
It sounds like it should be something fairly simple, but I cannot seem to find much.
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golfnz34me said:
I have been wanting this for a long time, I'd love to be able to take my older Android phone and re-purpose it as a car GPS/Internet Radio/Handfree, etc.
I know the Samsung Galaxy player has this functionality, I wonder if any of their devs could help out.
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I just got a new Nexus 7 for the same purpose of replacing my vehicles head unit with a tablet.
I am digging into the BT stack since I believe that I should be able to implement (or port) the profile on top of Android 4.3 assuming that the SCO data is available through the raw BT connection. There is an open source HFP implementation on sourceforge for Linux that migh be close enough to do the trick and save a bunch of coding time. It's going to take a while for me to get the time to dive too deeply into this one, but if I succeed or come to the conclusion it can't be done, I will let folks know.
Hello guys.
I am going to buy Nexus 7 for my car for the same purposes, - navigating, internet.
But mainly is for the Hands Free function.
Unfortunately, people saying nexus can't use it. But it's lol...I don't believe nexus7 doesn't support hands free.
Gentelman, tell me any way to make nexus 7 works hands free.
Thank you in advance.
P.S. if you ask wham am I mean when saying "hands free", so there is an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEFjDKtlao8
Use some Motorola MotoActiv Bt code?
I have a Motorola MotoActiv running watch... Features gps tracking for running and biking, MP3 player and Bluetooth... The Bluetooth is mainly used for wireless headphones, but if you have a Motorola Phone, the watch can display text msgs from the phone and you can use the headphones/mic through the watch to take calls. (the idea being that you can leave the phone in a pocket or backpack while you're bike riding, I guess, and still take calls.)
The device runs Android (I'm sure someone's rooted it on here). Maybe that code can be dissected and repurposed for what were all looking for??
J
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SmartNexus said:
I have a Motorola MotoActiv running watch... Features gps tracking for running and biking, MP3 player and Bluetooth... The Bluetooth is mainly used for wireless headphones, but if you have a Motorola Phone, the watch can display text msgs from the phone and you can use the headphones/mic through the watch to take calls. (the idea being that you can leave the phone in a pocket or backpack while you're bike riding, I guess, and still take calls.)
The device runs Android (I'm sure someone's rooted it on here). Maybe that code can be dissected and repurposed for what were all looking for??
J
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Just an update on something I said in my previous post... I was looking at my MotoActiv watch today and it says you have to have an "Android phone" not a Motorola phone as I said in my previous post. So I'm wondering if the phone audio over Bt can be reverse engineered from the Motoactive watch for other android devices.
I actually decided to root my watch today just for the fun of it... it would really make the perfect "Car Head Unit" as it has Android OS, MP3 capabilities, FM Tuner, Bluetooth and Phone audio over Bluetooth built in... if only the screen was larger than 1.5".
Looks like the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 2013 are getting some love in this area with a new custom stack:
http://www.bluez.org/bluez-for-android-status-update/
Looks like you need some compiling skills, but I think this is what you are looking for.
It must be work... Or not?
Hello guys!
I'm thinking on a same project for a while. It doesn't matter if not work for me, but would be great if yes.
I found something 2 days ago:
Parrot Asteroid Smart
This is an android base head unit/navigation, and the bluetooth handsfree is working on it. How it's possible? Any chance to port it into the Nexus 7?
solution
So i had an idea today and decided to call my carrier (Cricket). They told me it is possible to purchase an extra sim card and they will program the imei# to match my phone. This will enable me to make and receive calls on my tablet as well as my phone using the same number. Also i will have full access to my data.....problem solved with only 15 dollars. I hope this helps somebody.
I'd like to buy a smartwatch, however all that meet my requirements (AMOLED, waterproof) are stand-alone versions, with SIM card slot. I've notice that most of these watches do not support full phone synchronization. I'd like my watch to have functionality like: phone camera trigger, answering phone calls, answering SMS or WhatsApp messages...
If some of you can advice me how can I achieve that by external software, or what kind of smartwatch should I buy to meet those requirements, it would be great.
None of them will be able to make or receive calls properly through Bluetooth if that is what you are asking.
There is a reason for this. Google owns the api that allows this kind of interaction with Android. They will never allow it to be used on these watches. To google, these watches go against everything they are working on with Android Wear. They also protest that it is a security issue.
So, long story short - if you want full Bluetooth interactive mode you will need a Wear watch.
Not one of these Bluetooth pairing watches you find on Aliexpress. They also are not allowed to use these api's and cannot make or receive calls over Bluetooth.
If you find one that really works (a lot of them claim to but don't) I'd be interested ?
You might look at the Ticwatch 2. Nice looking watch and is licensed by Google - kind of......
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Have you looked at the Imacwear M7? It might be what you're looking for.
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Thanks @pablo11, however I can't say that I'm happy with what I've just read So it is not possible to implement this functionality in ROM or with the App?
Samsung watches overspend my budget
I completely don't get it! A 10$ smartwatch (like DZ-09) can answer phone calls and push notification two-way, and 100$ can't?