Everything is working great, I am not seeing any issues at all.... but I am using Jasmine 6.1 which is based on OF1 lollipop 5.0. I had been running 4.4.2 when I unlocked the bootloader and then installed TWRP and then Jasmine6.1.
I was digging through my phone's status via the Phone INFO app and (not really surprised) that my bootloader was still NC4 and my modem was NK1 (I flashed the OF1 modem when I flashed lean kernel).
Like I said, all is working well... I tend to leave things alone if there're not broken..... SO.... Is there any reason I should update bootloader or modem?
Thanks in advance...
Don
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I would advocate the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." approach.
Assuming you archive the various Odin stock releases so you'll have them in the future, you always have the option of rolling forward, but mostly won't have the option of rolling back.*
For earlier releases of firmware than what you are using (e.g. MJ7 and MJE) there seems to be an inability to boot stock kernels from later releases. And even non-stock kernels as well (I can't boot twrp-3.0.2-0-hltevzw-4.4 for instance, even though it doesn't have a "stock" heritage).
But I'm not sure this is a fundamental technical incompatibility or something that is merely sensitive to the kernel configuration options used during their builds.
It is a significant practical issue for folks on old firmware that might prevent them from using a "debloated" newer stock release, however. If folks who are willing to build kernels for us (I am trying OB6 and NK1 kernel builds with zero success at the moment) figure out what the technical issues are we might makes some progress here; if not the practical issues will remain.
But who is to say that something like this might or might not happen in the future to folks currently unlocked on "4.4" bootloaders? Keep those Odin stock bundles archived until you get rid of the phone!
* I realize there are some exceptions.
Yea... For now... That's my plan... Was just wondering if someone knew for sure one way or the other.
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Hi all,
I haven't updated the firmware of my i9505 for a long time, it's been acting a bit weird lately so I figured I might as well update it and reset/wipe it at the same time.
I think I'm still on the old pre-knox bootloader (though on a custom 4.4.2 firmware currently - Phoenix 9.4).
If I update firmware, is it necessary to flash a new bootloader?
I'd just flash the newest bootloader + modem for ur telco.
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I'd just flash the newest bootloader + modem for ur telco.
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isn't knox a "bad thing"?
nwsk said:
isn't knox a "bad thing"?
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If u are gonna use custom roms anyway, it shouldn't bother u as the knox thing won't even be there. And if ur warranty has ended it also won't be a problem.
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If u are gonna use custom roms anyway, it shouldn't bother u as the knox thing won't even be there. And if ur warranty has ended it also won't be a problem.
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True, my warranty should have expired some time last year probably. Is it necessary to flash a stock firmware as base before a custom, or can I flash a custom firmware immediately? Not sure if there are any hoops to jump through to flash over a knox bootloader
I'm not an expert but I was in the same situation as u. I flashed the new bootloader+modem, and was able to flash roms also without any problems.
I'm on BMG4 bootloader but that really isn't that important from what I've seen, pretty much custom roms and kernels support old bootloaders.
What is important however is what modems you use, you can use any GSM (MODEM.BIN (edge,3gh)) but you ccan not use just any 4G modem (NON-HLOS.BIN) if you are using old bootloader (no knox) the highest 4G modem you can use is BMH1, anything newer than that then you will usually loose sound and WiFi function.
Here's my phone info
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Hello,
I have a Sprint Galaxy S4 (but you knew that.) that is currently running 4.4.2 Android. I have rooted my phone, but I never installed any roms, I am still using the stock touchwiz. For a while now, my phone has been telling me "system update downloaded" and wants me to install it.
Basically: How do I go about updating my phone without breaking something due to my root status. Should I un-root? Should I just hit update? I'm skeptical because I don't know much about fixing my phone if I accidentally brick it.
Alternatively, would I be better just getting a rom, like Cyanogen? I don't hate touchwiz as much as I probably should, haha.
Side note, I apologize if this has been raised before, I have been searching for answers to this since the first time my phone notified me of the update, between Google searches and searching this forum, I haven't found a topic that addresses my issue.
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Hello,
I have a Sprint Galaxy S4 (but you knew that.) that is currently running 4.4.2 Android. I have rooted my phone, but I never installed any roms, I am still using the stock touchwiz. For a while now, my phone has been telling me "system update downloaded" and wants me to install it.
Basically: How do I go about updating my phone without breaking something due to my root status. Should I un-root? Should I just hit update? I'm skeptical because I don't know much about fixing my phone if I accidentally brick it.
Alternatively, would I be better just getting a rom, like Cyanogen? I don't hate touchwiz as much as I probably should, haha.
Side note, I apologize if this has been raised before, I have been searching for answers to this since the first time my phone notified me of the update, between Google searches and searching this forum, I haven't found a topic that addresses my issue.
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You coins just try a custom Touchwiz ROM like mine (Wicked X). You can't install the OTA on a rooted system, you need to unroot to take the OTA.
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I flashed the last 4.4.4 Final L900 Note 2 Rom as I wanted a stable rom on my wifes phone so she wouldn't have any issues. I have this same rom on another sprint phone and it allows prl/profile updates.
On the Note 2 this option isn't there. it has a mobile networks, then clicking on carrier settings causes a crash and I get an error unfortunately com.android.phone stopped and thats it.
It says it is running PRL# 2407. Is that the latest PRL for this device?
As of now the data, calls, messaging all work. I just want to have prl update available. I used voice dialer and searched for APN to get access, and it shows the attached, but none selected. Perhaps selecting one would enable the network settings so it don't crash? But I don't want to select one then lose any connectivity?
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I know this thread won't get much viewing probably, but hoping to find a solution, otherwise I may try cyanogen, but prefer to stick with this rom. I want to make sure she can update PRL if needed. Thanks!!!
I got on my other phone (Sprint galaxy nexus) with omnirom 4.4.4 final and it had this app (see picture). The note 2 omni doesn't have it. I may flash this apk and see if it allows prl/profile updates. Think that's safe to try?
Note2 builds for all LTE-capable devices were a unified "t0lte" build.
I'm not sure how to handle PRL updates for such unified devices, you should look around the Sprint Note 2 forums as this probably is a Sprintism that affects multiple projects.
t0lte support in Omni is pretty much dropped due to lack of a qualified maintainer with the appropriate skills to maintain a device (knows/understands both C and Java sufficiently to fix problems without just hoping CM will fix it.) It's unlikely to return for 5.0/5.1 and 4.4 won't be receiving any further fixes.
Thanks, I guess as long as her phone works with the most current prl she should be fine. I read you can always flash back to a touchwiz rom, then update the prl, then reload omni. A pain, but manageable I guess.
HI all,
I'm looking to flash my phone with a newer ROM. I'm currently on one I installed quite a while ago. I'm now a bit confused on which ROMs I can and can't use.
My phone is MF9 according to what I've been able to locate in the about settings and phone info programs. I keep seeing stuff about OD2, but I'm not really sure what that means for me. Also, isn't there something about updating and it doing something to the boot loader?
Do I need to update to OD2 to use newer ROMs?
Will it lock my boot loader and what will that do to my ability to change ROMs later?
Lastly, and I know it's a matter of personal preference, what ROM would you recommend? I'm just looking for something stable. Though good battery life and fast would be nice too.
Thanks,
-Jeff
OD2 didn't lock my bootloader. The updated bootloader actually means you'll be free to use more recent custom ROMs.
As for ROM recommendation, usually it should be a no-brainer for me to give CM, but CM on this phone drains battery a bit too fast, so I'll hold back on that.
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Thanks Andy,
So, if I do an Odin update to OD2, I should still be safe on my phone? That takes a load off my mind.
I did CM back on my Nexus S4G years before I got this phone. It wasn't bad. The battery life thing is a deal breaker though. Now that I know I can safely update without screwing things up too much I'll play around with a few. My main thing is to update my wife's phone so that she doesn't have problems. She always insists on matching phones so I can help her with stuff LOL
-Jeff
Only AT&T and Verizon lock bootloaders, you could try my ROM, Wicked X, in the Android Development section. Very stable and battery friendly.
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How do you check to see what version bootloader you have? I have unlocked my bootloader on my Note 3 and am running OF1/5.0. Ready to install TWRP and new ROM. But, not sure if I have a 4.3 or 4.4 bootloader and can't seem to find a simple answer and how to confirm.
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How do you check to see what version bootloader you have? I have unlocked my bootloader on my Note 3 and am running OF1/5.0. Ready to install TWRP and new ROM. But, not sure if I have a 4.3 or 4.4 bootloader and can't seem to find a simple answer and how to confirm.
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Use Phone Info
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This is what you'll get... In my case.. NC4 bootloader (unlocked) and OF1 based OS (Jasmine ROM)
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Thank you for the recommendation. I dig the app, though I still don't know which bootloader I have going by the 4.3/4.4 scale. I'm assuming by now I have the most current one, which ever one that is, because I installed the latest TWRP and am running CM13 with no issues thus far.
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Thank you for the recommendation. I dig the app, though I still don't know which bootloader I have going by the 4.3/4.4 scale. I'm assuming by now I have the most current one, which ever one that is, because I installed the latest TWRP and am running CM13 with no issues thus far.
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The last 3 digits represent the OS/bootloader/firmware versions. In my case, bootloader is NC4 which is 4.4.2, my baseband (modem) is NK1 which is 4.4.4 and the ROM base is OF1 which is 5.0
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donc113 said:
The last 3 digits represent the OS/bootloader/firmware versions. In my case, bootloader is NC4 which is 4.4.2, my baseband (modem) is NK1 which is 4.4.4 and the ROM base is OF1 which is 5.0
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Ah, now that makes sense. Thank you for the explanation.