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Screen Burn In !!!

edit: *Burn in may not be noticeable at the early stages unless you examine the screen, I used "Screen Test" app from market, please download this or something equivalent, and examine your screen closely before you vote."
So this may not apply to those who just purchased their phone, but for those of you who got your phone around launch time, examine your phone for burn in. Use "Screen Test" from the market, and go through each color, looking for burn in. Oh this is a new addition, I noticed my burn in his worse when the screen is set to the lowest brightness setting. So repeat the test after you dim your screen.
I've had my phone over 2 months, downloaded "screen test" and guess what. The AM/PM up in the notification bar has burned in!
When you download "Screen Test" app, you will notice two things about your screen. Do not be alarmed, the following is normal.
1) Very thin green vertical line along left side of screen
2)Thin gray-shady horizontal bar on top, this is not the notification bar burning in.
What is not normal....BURN IN!
Can't believe the AM/PM is burnt in after 2 months. Shame.
Samsung has to update this by having the time hop around the notification bar instead of staying stationary.
Maybe a dev can work on this?

Got mine on launch day. No burn in.
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Squirrelmaster22 said:
Got mine on launch day. No burn in.
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Did you examine the screen using "Screen Test" or an equivalent app?

got mine on launch and my PM is burned in =/

Screen test, from the market as you suggested.
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speedysilwady said:
got mine on launch and my PM is burned in =/
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They really need to change the time and AM/PM stamp from being stationary, they need to make it hop around the notification bar, or something. This is horrible, 2 months and AM/PM is burning in!
I'm sure the signal bars, wifi, and other stuff in notification bar will start to burn in next.
I'm also worried about the battery full message that stays on all night, that will start to burn the screen too.

No burn in here. Got my phone the third week of August.

i always thought leds burned cooler so the idea of burn in never even occured to me on this phone or any other phone for that matter...i doubt a warranty calim would fix it because i think all these vibrants will eventually have burn in...it wouldnt be easy i think to have an animated notification bar, but CM6 does have an option to remove and modify stuff on the notification bar like time and signal, wifi etc.

For making me notice this, I hate you.
I don't always complain, but when I do, I #BlameWes

I have the green line on the left side and the gray bar up top, but no am/pm.
Do you guys leave the display on while it charges?
My display is only on while I use the phone, I got it around release date

Not totally for me, but I can see it faintly coming in. I have had this phone (my third one) for almost 2 months now.

I use beautiful widget works great had since day one in august screen is perfect
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I'm kind of curious why an AMOLED screen would get burn-in. There's no backlight, so the only image we see is coming from emitting pixels. Is there a coating on the glass that burns in?

Kubernetes said:
I'm kind of curious why an AMOLED screen would get burn-in. There's no backlight, so the only image we see is coming from emitting pixels. Is there a coating on the glass that burns in?
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Good question. Could the following be a possibility?
LED's eventually start to die off. Could areas that are always lit, for example the AM/PM is always on, thus those LED's are dying, which makes that area unable to to fully brighten, giving the impression of burning in, since the surrounding LED's are still bright.
That's just a guess on my part.
Also, are you sure Amoled's don't burn in, or is that just a guess/opinion/question on your part?

I can't really vote since I've only had it for a month and a few days, but I don't have any burn in. It's probably because it never disabled orientation flip and I do watch a some kind of video on the phone daily.

Had mine since day one. No burn in. my phone barely makes it to the charger most nights and some it needs an afternoon charge so I definitely use the phone quite a bit.
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Damn it. Did screen test. Area where signal bars and time would be are clearly suffering from burn in. Awesome! This, combined with the generally bad software is making me consider selling this and never buying a Samsung phone ever again. (Sad, because their TV's are the best of the bunch.) To be fair, it's only noticeable when you look for it during a white screen and only in that area. Still, really Samsung? I've had this phone for 2 and a half months.

Had my phone for about a month and a half now, ran screen test and am seeing burn in
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Got my Vibrant the day it launched - July 15th - no burn in, I use it quite a bit, but have the screen timeout after 30 secs.

Surely is burning in. Barely see it, but it is visible.
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[Q] Auto-brightness

There has been a lot said about the screen being dim on this phone, and it's the one and only thing that's holding me back from committing to getting it. Summer's coming and I want to be able to play it outside without having to sit in a dark corner.
I've also read that the auto-brightness feature is mandatory, and that it doesn't work particularly well, so I was wondering if this was the main reason for the reportedly dim screen. My current phone - an AMOLED HTC Desire - is VERY dim with the auto brightness enabled, but thankfully I can turn it off.
For anyone with the phone who is able to test, do you think the screen is bright enough if you cover the light sensor altogether? I'm sure that once the phone is rooted, we'll be able to disable the light sensor altogether, and I'm hoping the screen brightness is purely a software limitation (i.e. fixable) and not a hardware problem (i.e. NOT fixable)
Thanks.

If someone that has theirs already were to check the brightness on boot before the sensors even initialize that might give you a good idea of what it is capable of.
Most android phones i've played with in the past boot at full brightness. Your mileage may varry

Mine arrive tomorrow... dont know until tuesday

I got a slider for the birhgtness, haven't noticed any dimming/brightening automatically, seems just fine to me.

I think that if this problem keeps appearing SE will do something about it, and else the community will

I had mine for a day and sent it back...the auto brightness very temperamental. I would play Gboid emulator (great with new controls btw) and the screen would literally get dim and lighten up constantly every few seconds - under same lighting condition, it became very annoying throughout the day as you end up anticipating it..seems the sensor tries too hard under certain lighting conditions and not having the option to disable auto lighting is just dumb.
The screen is also a terrible fingerprint magnet, and definitely not the best on a cloudy day (Could not test in direct sunlight, this is a rare occurring phenomena here in UK) ...Also dust tends to get into the very fine spacings around the screen.
After an hour of use the phone looked like my kids and dog had played with it for few weeks....Not for me.
But maybe thats just me being spoilt with Nexus S and Ipone4 smudge free, brighter screens.

I dont use the auto-brightness. Ive just manually set it a little lower.

Aightu said:
I dont use the auto-brightness. Ive just manually set it a little lower.
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I see what people are complaining about and... really it's not that bad.
I can see where it might get annoying if you're looking for it, but the screen is not going off and on like some people make it out to be. At least mine is not.
I keep mine at 50% brightness and I don't notice a brightness change even slightly. It's bright enough to see indoors easily and not noticeably worse outdoors than any other non-amoled phone I've owned.
from my experience people are making a mountain out of a mole hill, and the auto-brightness can be disabled with custom roms in the future, just live with it in the mean time. That or ask SE for an update that allows you to disable it.

johnsongrantr said:
I see what people are complaining about and... really it's not that bad.
I can see where it might get annoying if you're looking for it, but the screen is not going off and on like some people make it out to be. At least mine is not.
I keep mine at 50% brightness and I don't notice a brightness change even slightly. It's bright enough to see indoors easily and not noticeably worse outdoors than any other non-amoled phone I've owned.
from my experience people are making a mountain out of a mole hill, and the auto-brightness can be disabled with custom roms in the future, just live with it in the mean time. That or ask SE for an update that allows you to disable it.
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Yep, I keep mine at 60% and don't notice any screen change or anything.
Regarding the fingerprint magnet, you can easily install third party screen-protector to avoid that
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Screen susceptible to Burn In?

I recently came across an article that states that AMOLED screens had problems with their screens burning in, especially the AM/PM on notification bar or the charging status of the phone if plugged in and left overnight. I also saw these problems on the Captivate thread here on XDA
So will it be the same problem with this phone?

I had an HTC Desire before upgrading to my SGSII recently. Had it for over a year and never had any problems with burn in.
I believe the AMOLED screen on the Desire was made by Samsung as well. Not sure how much the technology has changed with the super AMOLED +. I guess time will tell!

Same again.... I have a launch day Nexus One (18Months Old) and there are no signs of burn in/image persistence on the screen. Unless you are planning on leaving your screen constantly showing a static image I wouldn't waste your time worrying about it.
Regards.

There is a screen burn in post .
jje

I bought HTC Desire when it came on market and I havent seen any screen burn in.. Also I don't have any problems with SGS2..
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So it's not a good idea to use the phone as a bedside clock eh?
Hopefully it won't be as bad as this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15057550&postcount=4

chobie said:
So it's not a good idea to use the phone as a bedside clock eh?
Hopefully it won't be as bad as this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15057550&postcount=4
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Ah ok that's the one from my thread. You must understand it's temorary... So it's not a "real" burn in. It disappears after 10 seconds.

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Ah ok that's the one from my thread. You must understand it's temorary... So it's not a "real" burn in. It disappears after 10 seconds.
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Good to know. But that still sucks though.
And on Galaxy S Variants the most usual permanent burn ins are the AM/PM on the not. bar that users post about.

There is a good chance for a burn in on the sgs2... but only if you use high brightness all the time, long screen on periods with no movement of graphics, so that the pixels can change.
tip: set your phone to 25% brightness (this will make the battery life even longer then 10% or 50%)
tip: set the phone turn off screen after 30 sec.
tip: Use a "Screen flashlight" app (fullscreen of red,green,blue etc) from time to time in all colors, to get all pixels changed and see if there is any problem.
triple tip

My nexus one has screen burn of the notification bar. Many of us have this issue. All amoled screens can have this problem, nothing you can do really.

That's my experience with SG2... nothing I can do about it!
I've tried running Screen Burn-In Tools (some app from Google Play) about an hour a day for a few days now and still the damn ugly burn-in is there!
Since I bought the phone from a dude, I can't return it to Samsung and stuff. Guess I should look closer when buying a phone from strangers! And I should've documented myself about the GS2 problems before buying one.
Didn't think an expensive phone could have these ridiculous problems!

Will Night Clock cause burn in?

Doesn't seem like the clock or battery icon move around like Always On mode. Will this eventually cause burn in?
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No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.

CuBz90 said:
The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.
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He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.

berfles said:
He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.
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Ah!
I imagine the night clock woukd cause burn in ad it does stay in one place.
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Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Richieboy67 said:
Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Unfortunately the battery icon and next alarm displayed doesn't change.
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I was wondering this and also worried about burn in , so I turned off night clock because it doesn't move, and I'm asleep so I don't need it on.
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I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.

I don't think it would. I have mine set to only stay on from 1AM until 5AM (the hours I'm most likely to wake up in the middle of the night and want to see the time.)
I don't think 4 hours is enough to cause burn in being how the pixels are lit up very dim when using the night clock.

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I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.
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The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!

At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.

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At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.
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Everything is pure speculation regarding the AMOLED panel around here, so we won't really know anything concrete until something happens, or someone gets a nasty burn-in. I doubt anyone will get a nasty burn-in though, but I guess someone will get some burn-in down the road, but that's pretty much expected.
I have a Galaxy Note (first gen.) that I used for about 18 months before getting a new device, and I've borrowed it to my mom. I checked it out again this week after not checking it out for about two years, and the display looks like ****, but it doesn't look more **** as it did the day I gave it to her, so it's "bad" if I'm trying to edit some photos, but it's not catastrophically bad at all. The only place it's burnt in is the statusbar, which is black on pre-lollipop versions if I remember correctly.

Hi clever people
So I'm a bit confused. I found this thread because I was afraid of a burn-in caused by the night clock too.
And I won't use it. But how about the always on display, then - by using that, is there a risk of shortening the life of the pixels? In that case, I'd just turn it off. But if not, well, then it's a neat feature

Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.

kylelopez20 said:
Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.
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Thanks. I was more curious, though, as to how the Always on Display feature might affect pixels and the screen lifetime too, and thus, if it'd be better to not use this feature

brawlysnake66 said:
No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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False. AMOLEDS suffer burn in, and LCDs will rarely ever experience it.
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The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!
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No offense that is the most stupid reason I've heard not to use dark/black themes. White themes ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO CAUSE BURN IN, PERIOD. You reduce burn in by reducing energy consumption and pixel usage.

Always on display

I just turned my screen on and noticed a slight burn in on the display caused by the always on display. It wasn't too bad but it was visible for about 5 minutes. I have since turned always on display off. Anyone else had this happen?

McQueefus said:
I just turned my screen on and noticed a slight burn in on the display caused by the always on display. It wasn't too bad but it was visible for about 5 minutes. I have since turned always on display off. Anyone else had this happen?
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I have not noticed it, no.

McQueefus said:
I just turned my screen on and noticed a slight burn in on the display caused by the always on display. It wasn't too bad but it was visible for about 5 minutes. I have since turned always on display off. Anyone else had this happen?
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The image on the AOD is supposed to move around slightly on the screen to prevent burn in. Please excuse my questioning, but are you sure it wasn't something with your eyes? Like when you look directly at a light bulb when it's turning on and you get that floating bulb of light imprinted on your eyes for like 5 minutes? (Know what I'm talking about?).
The AOD is constantly being updated via the Galaxy Apps store though. Maybe youre outdated or theres a bug currently. Wouldn't hurt to contact Samsung via the app store and report it.
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The image on the AOD is supposed to move around slightly on the screen to prevent burn in. Please excuse my questioning, but are you sure it wasn't something with your eyes? Like when you look directly at a light bulb when it's turning on and you get that floating bulb of light imprinted on your eyes for like 5 minutes? (Know what I'm talking about?).
The AOD is constantly being updated via the Galaxy Apps store though. Maybe youre outdated or theres a bug currently. Wouldn't hurt to contact Samsung via the app store and report it.
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Yeah I am pretty sure it wasn't just my eyes, it does move around like it should but I am wondering if it needs to move a little more. I think I have the latest update but I will double check. I guess if it does burn in permanently it would be under warranty so maybe i should just turn it back on

How can you tell if it moves or not? I can't see mine moving at all. Sometimes it's in a different position though either top, middle or bottom.

Chadly said:
How can you tell if it moves or not? I can't see mine moving at all. Sometimes it's in a different position though either top, middle or bottom.
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You need to stare at it really intensely for the 10 minutes it takes to move. Don't look away! Warning: You may end up seeing an afterimage like someone suspected of OP. By the way, OP, I am not sure that seeing an image for a few mins. qualifies as burn in. If it were true burn-in, would it not fade away and stay permanently? I do understand your concern, though, and would continue to seek info, since I imagine your concern is that this is a precursor to burn-in, or how it looks in the early stages. Your assignment? Keep staring at that screen. Do not look away, lol!

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How can you tell if it moves or not? I can't see mine moving at all. Sometimes it's in a different position though either top, middle or bottom.
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I think it either moves very slowly over time, or the image just "pops" to a different location after some amount of time. Im not 100% sure. I've only used AOD for a little while before sacrificing it to the Battery Saver Mode. You cant have Battery Saver Mode on and AOD at the same time.
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You need to stare at it really intensely for the 10 minutes it takes to move. Don't look away! Warning: You may end up seeing an afterimage like someone suspected of OP. By the way, OP, I am not sure that seeing an image for a few mins. qualifies as burn in. If it were true burn-in, would it not fade away and stay permanently? I do understand your concern, though, and would continue to seek info, since I imagine your concern is that this is a precursor to burn-in, or how it looks in the early stages. Your assignment? Keep staring at that screen. Do not look away, lol!
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Lol and yeah, thats my definition of burn in at least. Id definitely call OP's issue concerning nonetheless. You shouldn't be seeing an image stuck on the screen after waking it. AT ALL.
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Indeed, it is just concerning. Also, I agree, I don't think it's really screen burn in but it very well could have the potential.