There's a Blackberry Priv for sale on ebay listed as a developer edition. I don't know if that's true or not but I figured someone here might be interested in it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162023471532
Not my listing btw.
Seems to be regular prov for parts
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Well, the "Not for resale" marking on the bottom suggests that it was either a demo model, like the ones that were circulated out to the media last summer, or it may very well be a 'developer edition' that would have been sent out to developers ahead of release in a similar manner. In terms of differences, there likely are none, excepting that maybe the build quality could be better or worse, depending on whether it was pre-mass production run, or if it was the first batch of mass production, and probably had the Android developer options enabled as default. Might be that the OS version is quite old, if they haven't been keeping it up to date. Other than that, nothing special. I wouldn't use it for parts, it sounds like it would be just fine as a wifi-only device.
Yeah I figured it's nothing special but posted it on the off chance one of yall wanted to mess with it.
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Just wondering if anyone knows details on how market listings work. I know there are some apps that show or not to certain phones, but is that just a version issue, a special exception google makes?
At any rate, it's moot, because if google has a solution, they aren't making it very clear to lots of people.
Anyway, the problem:
As android ages, the phones age, and the apps mature. There are lots of apps that won't adequately run on older phones, but as far as I can tell, the only recourse devs have is to put a note in the description, which stops no one from actually downloading it, then clogging the reviews with 1 star "does not work on the ___" reviews.
While this was always a problem, now that we've reached the point in time where this is starting to happen to Droid 1 users, it's less an annoyance, and more a serious issue. Ratings almost mean nothing on those apps, and it's hard to use the reviews to see if there are actually any real issues.
(There are 10 billion droid users, and because it was true for quite a while they seem particularly locked in to the "I have one of the better phones out there" mentality )
Ok, rant over. Not sure anyone else even notices this.
Also, I'm not sure the solution is to restrict access, but an official way to list the phones that work or don't work needs to be in place, and then maybe another dev option to still allow access*
Then, if your phone isn't compatible, but the dev okays downloading anyway, you are given an extra screen to dismiss, explaining the app probably wont work for you, and you aren't allowed to leave reviews.
*Not all phones are equal, a stock phone, and a tricked out custom kerneled OC'd version, are very different, so a user might opt to give it a whirl anyway.
I have several apps on the market. In the manifest for the app you declare the minimum version of Android required for the app, and it's my understanding that phones that do not have at least that version of Android will not see the app.
Now, just because an app doesn't work on one person's phone, and they write a nasty review saying "doesn't work on the Epic!" doesn't actually mean that it doesn't work on the Epic, it just means that one person couldn't get it to work. Also, the developer may have made some hardcoding choices (like directories, etc.) that are not universal, and that may lead to incompatibilities that were un-anticipated. But, other than version of Android, I'm not sure what else is available to a developer to restrict access.
Yeah, I figured you could set the version. It's too bad there's no way to control it a bit finer.
I also realize that it's entirely possible someone is just being an idiot, but the fact remains we're past the days where you could necessarily infer anything about the phones from the version, or NEED the latest API version to do something useful/cool.
There are apps that legitimately don't run on some phones, and I feel like google needs to offer an official solution, rather than rely on dev comments that no one reads.
Obviously there are lots of ways to fake what your phone is, and whatnot, so nothing is going to be perfect, but there needs to be some way to officially denote "This app only requires 2.2, but your phone can't be one that shipped with Cupcake"
Edit: perhaps an easier approach is to have a market setting that only factors ratings/reviews of people that have the same phone.
I also don't mean to sound like I install every 5 star app, and wont even think about installing a 3 star app, no matter what I've heard. I've just noticed this in apps I was installing for one reason or another, and felt bad for the devs. It also gives a little less incentive to provide new/cool things for those of us with better phones.
I also suppose there's no "official" guidelines on what these stars are supposed to mean, but to me 1 starring an ap that says "this won't work for you" when it doesn't work for you is like telling people your dentist sucks because he wouldn't change your oil or make you a burger.
Hey guys, remember when the carriers blocked wireless tethering apps from the market for 'their phones'? I don't believe they ever REMOVED the apps from the market, just tagged them in such a way that they are not visible to any of the phones they provide service for. Just a thought, maybe devs could do the same kind of 'blacklisting' based on model number...
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Just wanted to share this with the family...... I love the HD2
Here is a link to the deal...
Now that is a deal!
I am seeing 139.99 now.
that's a great deal, but bad for me.
Stuff on Cowboom are used and you might not get the best looking device. Just a heads up to people buying. From past the description does not describe it well.
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what is cowboom guys.. why wont they post real pics
I was about to buy one, but it took me just few secs to realize how bad reputation this site has among customers, all I been able to find was negative feedbacks.
So I decided to pass.
The fact that they're calling it an android phone should be a red flag in itself.
"may be missing parts or accessories"
lolwut?
then also reads "fully functional"
so if it's missing the digitizer and camera, I'm good to go.
"Android phone"?!?
oh my...
If anyone is curious, here is how some things get to Cowboom.
First they start off here
http://www.bestbuytradein.com/bb/
Then go here
http://www.dealtree.com/
Then here
http://www.cowboom.com
They can also be returned items to Best Buy that the vendor will not accept back.
Many times they are reffered to Key-Outs, Inventory Adjustments or Write Offs.
Sometimes vendors like Apple will say "We'll give you credit on 50,000 items this year and that is it" and after that they will no longer take things back. They may also have in their sales contract that they will not sell certain items "open box" in store as it tarnishes the brand, so bestbuy has to go through sites that they own like dealtree and cowboom to liquidate the items.
In case y'all arnt following the HD2 development, which obviously y'all have no reason to-but the HD2 has one of the top android developments on xda. We have hacked the phone to run over five different ooperating systems such as android and WP7. These are not buggy loaders, but all fully functional and dailies. Just check put the HD2 android development forum through my signiture and.check it out. We have every single base except Touch Wiz. Fully functional sense 3.5, android 4.0, you name it. I highly reccomend this phone for anybody who lobes playing around with all kinds of android builds/bases, WP7, W6.5, meego, and more.
So this piece software intrigues me. Any of you try it? If so how is it, what kind of workouts does it track(cycling?) is it going to replace cardio tracker for me? Please pass along the low down.
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I actually tried using the extracted version of s-health on my note 2. The display of extracted version doesn't match with the one I saw on s4. I tried to explore my version but it didn't appeal me at all. It doesn't have good database of foods and exercises ad it wrongly calculates calories. I just hope real one will work better.
Just make sure you purchase the accessories to utilise the fullness of S Health.
http://cnettv.cnet.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-health-fitness-accessories/9742-1_53-50142861.html
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/458485/20130418/18-samsung-galaxy-s4-accessories-designed-lifestyle.htm
The accessories seem ridiculously expensive though. I had thought a bit of getting the S-Band, but at $130? Hell no. By the time you get through half the accessories they list, you've already paid enough to buy another phone entirely.
At least S band should have shipped with the phone :-/
should i buy this phone????
is it worth buying????
Only you can decide that. Watch the video reviews on YouTube and read the reviews all over the web.
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IMHO:
Very good value because of a) price, b) build quality, c) support, both from the manufacturer and ROM teams.
If you're only going for the raw power of the devices, there are cheaper alternatives having the same/very similar specs, but they lack in built quality and support. Or if you need more software feautes, you've got to pay more for HTC/Samsung.
I voted for the "underdog" since I don't like the big companies throwing out device after device and not giving proper support and I only payed ~80€ more than for a Nexus 4, getting double the RAM and a better display - besides, I'd be interested in a Google Edition from HTC/Samsung, but they won't arrive here any time soon.
Besides, I don't know a single task, except maybe hardcore gaming(which I wouldn't want to do on a phone), that doesn't work just fine with any recent phone, so imho it's all about personal preferences.
S.D.Richards said:
IMHO:
Very good value because of a) price, b) build quality, c) support, both from the manufacturer and ROM teams.
If you're only going for the raw power of the devices, there are cheaper alternatives having the same/very similar specs, but they lack in built quality and support. Or if you need more software feautes, you've got to pay more for HTC/Samsung.
I voted for the "underdog" since I don't like the big companies throwing out device after device and not giving proper support and I only payed ~80€ more than for a Nexus 4, getting double the RAM and a better display - besides, I'd be interested in a Google Edition from HTC/Samsung, but they won't arrive here any time soon.
Besides, I don't know a single task, except maybe hardcore gaming(which I wouldn't want to do on a phone), that doesn't work just fine with any recent phone, so imho it's all about personal preferences.
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is this good to go for nexus 4 rather than this phone???????
burninghouse said:
is this good to go for nexus 4 rather than this phone???????
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Up to you.. Do you plan on flashing and modding your phone with custom kernels, ROMs, and recoveries? The N4 has a lot more development but the Find 5 has an incredible outlook on 3rd party development. So far I've seen 2 ads for the Find 5 from OPPO showing off custom ROMs running on them such as Official CyanogenMod 10.1 support and PAC ROM.. (I think the other was PAC ROM) so that right there is something to take into consideration should you need to return your device for any reason. No more flash counters or flashing back to stock..even though that's as easy as flashing their official firmware via .zip file that they release. Can even be flashed with CWM or TWRP. I won't try to butter up the software, because well... It needs work. But, with CM support and constant updates from the OEM, this is a phone to consider. Hardware wise... Fantastic, tough to beat, and the camera is a beaut!
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Hi,
I am currently testing a few dual-sim phones for use by a few people within my company. We purchased one Note 9, a few S9s and a OnePlun 6T (it's like Christmas early at my work).
First discovery was that "new, factory unlocked dual-sim" on Amazon doesn't always mean that. Since dual/sim phones aren't sold directly by Samsung, we had to buy them on Amazon and at the very least, one of the S9s was not new. It had a specific knox setting for a bank in south america so that did not come from the factory. So not having a trusted source for dual-sim Samsung is not something I like.
I then purchased a 6T directly from OnePlus and this one is clearly straight from the manufacturer. I'm happy with that and with the fast updates, but now that two phone manufacturers are making the news for security reasons, it doesn't make me confident that OnePlus doesn't gather data without users knowing. Huawei and ZTE are being boycotted left and right for security purposes, companies are shifting towards what I think in an illusion of safety by focusing on products made in the US (doesn't mean chips aren't made in China).
So for my own curiosity, are there people out there concerned by the fact that OnePlus phones are made in China and that as of right now, two electronics manufacturers are involved in security concerns?
Everyone is spying on everyone : Rule #1 , destroy one country's economy by hitting it's strongest companies : Rule # 2
Now all depends what kind of security you are looking for. Samsung has made an "enterprise edition" of the Note9. with
Huawei has very slow updates and being in the US (i guess you are based there) forget about it. This for obvious guarantees, etc...
OnePlus is a great company, it had it's issues in the press oneplus-phones-collecting-sensitive-data But i think this was dealt with.
now depends in what business you are in, and how sensitive your information is.
I hate to say this, but Apple does offer good security (apparently) and now you can order dual SIM cards, or even use e-sim + nano SIM.
Now if someone REALLY wants to know things about you, they will find out. Thus the famous "I gOt nOtHinG tO HiDe".
Everyone is logging data they shouldn't and without consent I'm sure OnePlus is still doing it even if you select disagree, Google is the worst offender all of their services log everything best way to avoid is to run AOSP and FOSS apps avoid stock roms and Google services if you value privacy.
Nic2112 said:
Hi,
I am currently testing a few dual-sim phones for use by a few people within my company. We purchased one Note 9, a few S9s and a OnePlun 6T (it's like Christmas early at my work).
First discovery was that "new, factory unlocked dual-sim" on Amazon doesn't always mean that. Since dual/sim phones aren't sold directly by Samsung, we had to buy them on Amazon and at the very least, one of the S9s was not new. It had a specific knox setting for a bank in south america so that did not come from the factory. So not having a trusted source for dual-sim Samsung is not something I like.
I then purchased a 6T directly from OnePlus and this one is clearly straight from the manufacturer. I'm happy with that and with the fast updates, but now that two phone manufacturers are making the news for security reasons, it doesn't make me confident that OnePlus doesn't gather data without users knowing. Huawei and ZTE are being boycotted left and right for security purposes, companies are shifting towards what I think in an illusion of safety by focusing on products made in the US (doesn't mean chips aren't made in China).
So for my own curiosity, are there people out there concerned by the fact that OnePlus phones are made in China and that as of right now, two electronics manufacturers are involved in security concerns?
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Turn off all feedback to OnePlus and the phone does not make any pings to strange servers.
I have my phone rooted and have installed apps that log access to ip addresses. I haven't see anything strange in a month.
I'm not concerned and turned logging off.
tech_head said:
and have installed apps that log access to ip addresses.
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I don't buy any devices that can't run Lineage. You can remove the logging programs entirely if you are worried about them still reporting back to OnePlus after opting out. I removed a long list of things, and my phone still works. The couple Huawei devices I've had, and actually are still in the house, run Lineage, so not really worried about them either.
I only buy devices that can be unlocked, and with the intent of running Lineage on them, so I don't really care what software comes on them. Heck my OP 5T sat new in the box until Lineage was released, I used my Nexus 5X while I waited.
Thanks for your feedback.
There's a huge push towards not using Huawei network equipment or not doing business with people who do so. I'm not worried about someone knowing too much about what I do with my phone because between Facebook and Google, anyone can buy that information. The security I'm more concerned about is information theft, leaking screenshots like OnePlus supposedly did at one point, text files filled with "key words" like another news story mentioned. We are even reconsidering laptops and putting a huge emphasis on computers not made in China. I'm guessing the political situation with the Huawei CEO isn't helping the situation either.
Nic2112 said:
The security I'm more concerned about is information theft, leaking screenshots like OnePlus supposedly did at one point, text files filled with "key words" like another news story mentioned.
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You have a OnePlus device? Remove the offending programs if you insist on running OxygenOS? You can secure your own device. Don't like Google collecting information, you can go without Google if you really wanted too. I just see this whole thing as a none issue I guess?
Nic2112 said:
We are even reconsidering laptops and putting a huge emphasis on computers not made in China. I'm guessing the political situation with the Huawei CEO isn't helping the situation either.
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Which leaves you with? What devices aren't made in China or made from components from China? I'm not sure any one device is more secure than another.
Anyone see this story:
Germany Refuses To Ban Huawei, Citing Lack of Real Evidence
This is why open source, and open devices are so important. We need things we can update, and things that can be audited. Some people may argue that makes them vulnerable but I disagree.
OhioYJ said:
Which leaves you with? What devices aren't made in China or made from components from China? I'm not sure any one device is more secure than another.
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That's also something I brought up, you can say Samsung phones don't say "Made in China" but it's highly likely that some components in there are which would have their own security flaws.
OhioYJ said:
You have a OnePlus device? Remove the offending programs if you insist on running OxygenOS? You can secure your own device. Don't like Google collecting information, you can go without Google if you really wanted too. I just see this whole thing as a none issue I guess?
Which leaves you with? What devices aren't made in China or made from components from China? I'm not sure any one device is more secure than another.
Anyone see this story:
Germany Refuses To Ban Huawei, Citing Lack of Real Evidence
This is why open source, and open devices are so important. We need things we can update, and things that can be audited. Some people may argue that makes them vulnerable but I disagree.
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This is exactly why I unlock my BL and root my phone.
Once that is done, I own it and can do what I want.