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Hi, So the Android 5.1 OTA is finally available for N4, I'm rooted with custom recovery and was wondering how can I flash the OTA?
I know a way which I should unroot and install stock recovery, but other than this is there any way?
Backup data, Wipe factory data and flash OTA update from custom recovery.
athibanvasanth said:
Backup data, Wipe factory data and flash OTA update from custom recovery.
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You can't flash an ota in a custom recovery. You can only flash it by sideloading in the stock recovery.
PO, you have to be 100 % stock, system, kernel and recovery to flash the ota. It's just as easy to flash the 5.1 factory image.
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I always just flash the factory image. As jd1639 says, it's just as easy. And you don't have to go to the trouble of returning to stock. Just make sure you don't wipe out your data, unless that's what you want to do.
so to flash ota i would neet to loose data and go to stock right?
is there factory image i could use without going to stock then? Thanks
jojkos said:
so to flash ota i would neet to loose data and go to stock right?
is there factory image i could use without going to stock then? Thanks
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If you're on 5.0.1, flash the system, boot, and recovery images with fastboot from it. Boot into recovery and sideload the ota with adb. You shouldn't lose any data. Then re-Root.
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jd1639 said:
If you're on 5.0.1, flash the system, boot, and recovery images with fastboot from it. Boot into recovery and sideload the ota with adb. You shouldn't lose any data. Then re-Root.
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Thanks, i got it to work with NRT using no wipe stock
Ok, I messed up somewhere.
I had Nexus 6p running on MM, rooted along with xposed.
I had downloaded the beta OTA but not installed it.
I used flashfire to flash the old 6p image (the same one that was installed) and flashed system, boot, recovery, cache and vendor.
Then I updated using the downloaded OTA to N. When I did that , the phone showed me the corruption message and booted to recovery. My phone was being detected by adb in normal mode, but not by fastboot in the bootloader, somehow I was able to get it to detect and installed my older TWRP 2.8.7.2 recovery, which was able to decrypt data. After that, I sideloaded Android N via TWRP and even flashed TWRP 3.0.0.1, but it hangs whenever I try to boot to recovery, never been able to go past the TWRP bootlogo. Is there anyway I can get TWRP to work again without wiping data/userdata? I'm guessing it's all happening because of encrypted data.
kunal_07 said:
Ok, I messed up somewhere.
I had Nexus 6p running on MM, rooted along with xposed.
I had downloaded the beta OTA but not installed it.
I used flashfire to flash the old 6p image (the same one that was installed) and flashed system, boot, recovery, cache and vendor.
Then I updated using the downloaded OTA to N. When I did that , the phone showed me the corruption message and booted to recovery. My phone was being detected by adb in normal mode, but not by fastboot in the bootloader, somehow I was able to get it to detect and installed my older TWRP 2.8.7.2 recovery, which was able to decrypt data. After that, I sideloaded Android N via TWRP and even flashed TWRP 3.0.0.1, but it hangs whenever I try to boot to recovery, never been able to go past the TWRP bootlogo. Is there anyway I can get TWRP to work again without wiping data/userdata? I'm guessing it's all happening because of encrypted data.
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Is there a reason you're messing around with Flashfire and sideloading instead of doing it the proper way via fastboot? I'd suggest taking that route now. I have instructions on flashing factory images in my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Heisenberg said:
Is there a reason you're messing around with Flashfire and sideloading instead of doing it the proper way via fastboot? I'd suggest taking that route now. I have instructions on flashing factory images in my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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I just had a phone next to me at that time, so I thought I'd be able to do it without a pc. Now I know it wasn't a good idea
So you suggest I fastboot flash everything like you've mentioned in the guide without formatting userdata and data? Also, should I flash twrp at that time as well? Do I need the modified boot mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/stock-modified-boot-img-regular-root-t3306684
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I just had a phone next to me at that time, so I thought I'd be able to do it without a pc. Now I know it wasn't a good idea
So you suggest I fastboot flash everything like you've mentioned in the guide without formatting userdata and data? Also, should I flash twrp at that time as well? Do I need the modified boot mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/stock-modified-boot-img-regular-root-t3306684
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Yes, flash everything except userdata. Personally, I'd be wiping data with TWRP first though, just to make sure there's no lingering data causing problems moving forward. You can use Titanium to make a backup of your user apps first, and then restore them afterwards. No you don't need the modified boot.img.
In response to one of your initial statements though, I don't think TWRP is hanging due to not being able to decrypt. The 3.0.0-1 build has been patched so that it can decrypt.
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Yes, flash everything except userdata. Personally, I'd be wiping data with TWRP first though, just to make sure there's no lingering data causing problems moving forward. You can use Titanium to make a backup of your user apps first, and then restore them afterwards. No you don't need the modified boot.img.
In response to one of your initial statements though, I don't think TWRP is hanging due to not being able to decrypt. The 3.0.0-1 build has been patched so that it can decrypt.
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any other way I can do that? I'm not rooted, and I cant flash supersu without booting to recovery, right?
kunal_07 said:
any other way I can do that? I'm not rooted, and I cant flash supersu without booting to recovery, right?
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Instead of relying on the recovery partition on the phone, you can live-boot TWRP with fastboot. This will boot into TWRP using the TWRP image on your PC, via the fastboot connection. The command is as follows:
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fastboot boot twrp-3.0.0-1-angler.img
Then you can flash SuperSU, make your backup with Titanium, and continue on.
Heisenberg said:
Instead of relying on the recovery partition on the phone, you can live-boot TWRP with fastboot. This will boot into TWRP using the TWRP image on your PC, via the fastboot connection. The command is as follows:
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fastboot boot twrp-3.0.0-1-angler.img
Then you can flash SuperSU, make your backup with Titanium, and continue on.
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sorry to bug you often, but i had no luck with live booting 3.0.0-1. I tried with 2.8.7.2 and it booted, asked to decrypt data. tried my pin/pattern as well as default_password but no luck.
the log says:
E:Unable to decrypt with default password, you may need to perform a format data.
E:unable to mount storage
E:unable to mount settings storage during GUI startup.
kunal_07 said:
sorry to bug you often, but i had no luck with live booting 3.0.0-1. I tried with 2.8.7.2 and it booted, asked to decrypt data. tried my pin/pattern as well as default_password but no luck.
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That's odd, I can't think of why 3.0.0-1 wouldn't boot, but 2.8.7.2 definitely won't work as it obviously can't decrypt. You might not be able to backup.
Enabling 'require pattern at startup' allowed 3.0.0-1 to boot but this time it was stuck at decrypting.
kunal_07 said:
Enabling 'require pattern at startup' allowed 3.0.0-1 to boot but this time it was stuck at decrypting.
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I think you're pretty much stuck, you could try disabling all security.
is it possible to sideload supersu somehow?
kunal_07 said:
is it possible to sideload supersu somehow?
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Maybe, you could try adb sideload in TWRP, but SuperSU needs to access the data partition which TWRP can't decrypt.
I tried it and it got to
**Boot image patcher**
patching sepolicy.
Failure, aborting.
i seem to have the same issues too. unable to access recovery and lost root. phone cant be detected in fastboot.
supersu 2.69 to the rescue. chainfire auto root worked with encrypted data
1)So, now the best way forward is to backup via Titanium and format data?
2) will fastboot erase data erase userdata as well?
3) after the format, will data remain decrypted or do I need to do something else?
kunal_07 said:
supersu 2.69 to the rescue. chainfire auto root worked with encrypted data
1)So, now the best way forward is to backup via Titanium and format data?
2) will fastboot erase data erase userdata as well?
3) after the format, will data remain decrypted or do I need to do something else?
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Great news
1. Yes.
2. I don't think such a command exists. You'd need to use the "fastboot format userdata" command instead if you want to decrypt anyway. Just remember to backup all your data first.
3. You'd need to flash a custom kernel today doesn't force encryption. Otherwise your data well will automatically encrypt on the first boot after formatting.
kunal_07 said:
supersu 2.69 to the rescue. chainfire auto root worked with encrypted data
1)So, now the best way forward is to backup via Titanium and format data?
2) will fastboot erase data erase userdata as well?
3) after the format, will data remain decrypted or do I need to do something else?
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Is there a link for the CF Auto root?
I tried searching, but didn't find anything =(
kauemelhado said:
Is there a link for the CF Auto root?
I tried searching, but didn't find anything =(
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/wip-android-n-preview-t3335726
kunal_07 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/wip-android-n-preview-t3335726
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Tks,
I found it 2 seconds later I asked you. LOL
Anyhow, thank you bro.
hi guys,
please i have some questions i really need there answers:
1- (rooted phone) if i do a factory data reset will the root gone and the TWRP also ?
2- (rooted phone) is there a way to install an update if i got it ( like update security patches "monthly" ) on rooted phone without wipe data or loosing the root or TWRP?
3- (rooted phone) if i reinstall the factory image full,the root and TWRP will have gone or not ?
thanks a lot !
1. If you use systemless root a factory reset will remove it. If you use a root method that modifies the system partition a factory reset won't remove root. Factory resets will not remove TWRP.
2. Installing monthly security updates and keeping TWRP, root, and data can be done by manually installing the update using fastboot and doing the following:
-Systemless root method: flash everything EXCEPT the recovery, boot, and userdata images.
-System based root method: install everything EXCEPT the recovery and userdata images. You will have to reflash Superuser/SuperSU (whichever you prefer) in TWRP since flashing the system image will remove root. There's no way around this.
3. If you use fastboot to install everything included in a factory image you will lose root, data, and TWRP.
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1. If you use systemless root a factory reset will remove it. If you use a root method that modifies the system partition a factory reset won't remove root. Factory resets will not remove TWRP.
2. Installing monthly security updates and keeping TWRP, root, and data can be done by manually installing the update using fastboot and doing the following:
-Systemless root method: flash everything EXCEPT the recovery, boot, and userdata images.
-System based root method: install everything EXCEPT the recovery and userdata images. You will have to reflash Superuser/SuperSU (whichever you prefer) in TWRP since flashing the system image will remove root. There's no way around this.
3. If you use fastboot to install everything included in a factory image you will lose root, data, and TWRP.
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Could you explain me what are the difference between systemless root method and system based root method, in order to get know what is it the method that I used
Chouiyekh said:
Could you explain me what are the difference between systemless root method and system based root method, in order to get know what is it the method that I used
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If you are running Marshmallow or Nouget and used a version of SuperSU that is a year or less old it does system less root by default.
You can flash OTA updates on a rooted device with FlashFire without using a computer.
You can also flash an OTA image in TWRP and then simply flash root after, before you boot the phone. If the phone boots without root, out will wipe TWRP and leave you with stock recovery.
But honestly, from the questions being asked, you might not want to try this stuff until you understand it better. Losing root and TWRP is not a big deal. You can flash them again in about 1min and 30 seconds, so it's not worth worrying about.
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Why would factory reset remove systemless root? I expect factory reset to only reset what you're supposed to have changed since factory image. That is /data.
Systemless must be in /data if it's not in /system, right? I don't really know much about systemless, because I don't use Android pay, Snapchat or play children's games haha.
But my guess is that if it's not touching system, then it must be in data, so wiping data would remove it. But I'm just guessing.
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HikingMoose said:
You can also flash an OTA image in TWRP and then simply flash root after, before you boot the phone. If the phone boots without root, out will wipe TWRP and leave you with stock recovery.
But honestly, from the questions being asked, you might not want to try this stuff until you understand it better. Losing root and TWRP is not a big deal. You can flash them again in about 1min and 30 seconds, so it's not worth worrying about.
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thank you, i got it easily because i'm not a beginner i have some experience
HikingMoose said:
Systemless must be in /data if it's not in /system, right?
But my guess is that if it's not touching system, then it must be in data, so wiping data would remove it. But I'm just guessing.
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You guessed right. Never thought of that, thought it was actually all done from boot partition.
Quoting Chainfire:
As the binaries should still be updatable, and we don't know the space we have available in the boot image itself, we're mounting a (writable) ext4 image with /su as mount point from /data, and modifying PATH accordingly. Interestingly, for reasons yet unknown to me, if the image is mounted r/o by init, later remounting it r/w causes a bunch of issues. So we're keeping it r/w (for root) for now.
I used Flashfire to flash a radio.img without checking flash bootloader.
I can get into the bootloader and twrp.
When wiping the device and flashing another rom or restoring a backup my 6p does not get passed the custom rom splash screen.
I was thinking of trying to fastboot flash system/data/cache of the March update and see if it boots.
I know I messed up. don't even know if it was because I didn't check the bootloader option in Flashfire. Just my guess because everything was working fine beforehand.
Any help or ideas would be welcome.
dirtyreturn said:
I used Flashfire to flash a radio.img without checking flash bootloader.
I can get into the bootloader and twrp.
When wiping the device and flashing another rom or restoring a backup my 6p does not get passed the custom rom splash screen.
I was thinking of trying to fastboot flash system/data/cache of the March update and see if it boots.
I know I messed up. don't even know if it was because I didn't check the bootloader option in Flashfire. Just my guess because everything was working fine beforehand.
Any help or ideas would be welcome.
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Hey... You said you wiped your device? What did you wipe in TWRP?
Try to install a ROM from TWRP. Once it's over go in wipe and do a factory reset. Reboot. It should likely fix your issue.
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Hey... You said you wiped your device? What did you wipe in TWRP?
Try to install a ROM from TWRP. Once it's over go in wipe and do a factory reset. Reboot. It should likely fix your issue.
Good luck...
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Hey thanks for the reply.
Yeah, I wiped data, system, cache. Just the standard - I still have internal storage intact.
Its just strange, I've used Flashfire before but not for flashing a radio and it worked out fine.
I am on 3.79 and used Flashfire to flash 3.78. Went to the bootloader just to check and it still shows 3.79. Just my fault . I didn't check flash bootloader in the Flashfire settings. Atleast that's what I am guessing. Things were just fine before
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dirtyreturn said:
Hey thanks for the reply.
Yeah, I wiped data, system, cache. Just the standard - I still have internal storage intact.
Its just strange, I've used Flashfire before but not for flashing a radio and it worked out fine.
I am on 3.79 and used Flashfire to flash 3.78. Went to the bootloader just to check and it still shows 3.79. Just my fault . I didn't check flash bootloader in the Flashfire settings. Atleast that's what I am guessing. Things were just fine before
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Well, if nothing work, maybe backup your internal storage and flash a factory image... Then in recovery do a factory reset afterward. Who knows. Going back to stock shouldn't hurt anyway.
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@dirtyreturn
I've used FF to flash only radio files to the modem partition many times without issue. You untick all but modem, and you untick inject SU and preserve recovery. Not sure what went wrong for you. As mentioned , you should be able to manually flash stock and if you're careful, you'll still have your data. All your settings will be reset, but the userdata will be there. You can even use flash-all.bat, but open it in a text editor and remove the "-w" flag so it will not wipe your userdata. The Google page where you get the full factory image will have instructions.
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@dirtyreturn
I've used FF to flash only radio files to the modem partition many times without issue. You untick all but modem, and you untick inject SU and preserve recovery. Not sure what went wrong for you. As mentioned , you should be able to manually flash stock and if you're careful, you'll still have your data. All your settings will be reset, but the userdata will be there. You can even use flash-all.bat, but open it in a text editor and remove the "-w" flag so it will not wipe your userdata. The Google page where you get the full factory image will have instructions.
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Thanks. It was obviously my fault somehow.
I do remember there being only one option to tick.
Using fastboot back to stock did the trick and made me realize maybe I should hold off on using Flashfire for a bit.
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dirtyreturn said:
Thanks. It was obviously my fault somehow.
I do remember there being only one option to tick.
Using fastboot back to stock did the trick and made me realize maybe I should hold off on using Flashfire for a bit.
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Nah, FF is awesome and a major time-saver. Just read up on the documentation here and become familiar with it.
I'm not sure what happened, but my phone lost root and couldn't boot into system due to a problem with encryption. I had to do a reset. I'm now on 10k with no TWRP or root.
I assume I need to roll back to 10p or 10i stock and re-root. However, I can't find the programs and the stock 10i or 10p files.
EDIT: Apparently, the firmwares site doesn't like Firefox. It wasn't showing any of the firmwares for download. I had to use a different browser.
I was able to roll back to 10p. Install TWRP, and flash 10k with Magisk.
I don't want to have whatever happened to me again. Does anyone know why I lost lost TWRP and had to reset?
Sizzlechest said:
I was able to roll back to 10p. Install TWRP, and flash 10k with Magisk.
I don't want to have whatever happened to me again. Does anyone know why I lost lost TWRP and had to reset?
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Did you flash anything recently that may have caused you to lose root? if I'm not mistaken, if you flash a boot image without flashing root after that will cause you to lose root and if you boot without root it will restore your backup recovery partition removing TWRP. I've actually dd'd my recovery partition over the backup so this doesn't happen, but I'm sure there are other ways to lose root...
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Did you flash anything recently that may have caused you to lose root? if I'm not mistaken, if you flash a boot image without flashing root after that will cause you to lose root and if you boot without root it will restore your backup recovery partition removing TWRP. I've actually dd'd my recovery partition over the backup so this doesn't happen, but I'm sure there are other ways to lose root...
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I suspect the person "fooling around" with my phone was in the SuperSU app. The only potentially destructive thing in there would be full unroot since you can remove TWRP from there. It's just a theory. Even if you dd the recovery partition, how would you get it back without TWRP or root?
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I suspect the person "fooling around" with my phone was in the SuperSU app. The only potentially destructive thing in there would be full unroot since you can remove TWRP from there. It's just a theory. Even if you dd the recovery partition, how would you get it back without TWRP or root?
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from what I've gathered, there are two recovery partitions, one is the main and then there is another that's a backup. when you install TWRP it always installs to the main one leaving the backup intact. when recovery gets reset, it pulls it from the backup... however if it didn't and the main is messed up then you might be screwed