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Do we really need ROOT on the Moto X Pure?

Hi All,
I've had many android phones in the past, and I could not go without rooting them. Rooting offered efficient ROMs and some tethering I needed. I feel as though the Moto X Pure is the stock android that we all want. I have only had Sense/TW/Droid phones, thus needed to ROOT/flash AOSP ROMs.
What are the advantages of unlocking the boot-loader/rooting thisphone? I am seriously considering purchasing one. I am a big fan of Motorola, and I am an even bigger fan of true Android.
Thanks in advance,
996

996 said:
Hi All,
I've had many android phones in the past, and I could not go without rooting them. Rooting offered efficient ROMs and some tethering I needed. I feel as though the Moto X Pure is the stock android that we all want. I have only had Sense/TW/Droid phones, thus needed to ROOT/flash AOSP ROMs.
What are the advantages of unlocking the boot-loader/rooting thisphone? I am seriously considering purchasing one. I am a big fan of Motorola, and I am an even bigger fan of true Android.
Thanks in advance,
996
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The only reasons I rooted was for Titanium Backup, full TWRP backup, and Xposed. I use Xposed for GravityBox to allow me to customize the phone without needing a ROM, and for a module that colors my nav bar and status bar within every app. Basically, if you don't see yourself wanting to customize features that custom ROMs have, or you don't need to backup your apps and their data, you don't need root. At least not in my opinion. Titanium Backup is the biggest reason I root. I need to have backups of my apps and data just in case something happens to my phone, or when I upgrade phones.
Edit: As others said, Adaway is another reason to root. I'm so used to having this that I forgot to include it in my list lol.

Don't forget adfree/adaway.

Count me in on the Titanium backup and Adaway.

Got it. Thank you for the info guys. As far as rooting goes, am I required to flash a custom ROM if I root the Moto X? Or is recovery the only thing necessary?

You dont have to flash a custom rom.
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996 said:
Got it. Thank you for the info guys. As far as rooting goes, am I required to flash a custom ROM if I root the Moto X? Or is recovery the only thing necessary?
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I rooted for the reasons the others mentioned - Titanium Backup and Adaway, also having a nandroid backup of a fresh stock setup. You're right though, this phone would be easy to live with as it comes from the factory. I'm glad I got it, I like it a lot.

Persistent desktop view in Chrome. You can add a command line switch in /data/local/ that will force the user agent to appear to be from a pc. The 'request desktop' in settings is a per visit option. I like it a bit more permanent. Specially on a larger screen.
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Adaway.. nuff said
I think the main reason for people to root now is mainly just xposed or when backing up data.

Adaway is worth the trouble rooting alone.

I root for custom roms n kernels. Maybe not so much for xpe, but other device definitely needs it. As for xpe, custom rom with kernel that increase battery life is a must. Why would you need tb? Unless you were constantly flashing roms?
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I root for 3 reasons: ad blocking, TIBU, and app permissions. Marshmellow is pretty much eliminating the need for 2 of those, but I still feel like I need to root for ads.

996 said:
Hi All,
I've had many android phones in the past, and I could not go without rooting them. Rooting offered efficient ROMs and some tethering I needed. I feel as though the Moto X Pure is the stock android that we all want. I have only had Sense/TW/Droid phones, thus needed to ROOT/flash AOSP ROMs.
What are the advantages of unlocking the boot-loader/rooting thisphone? I am seriously considering purchasing one. I am a big fan of Motorola, and I am an even bigger fan of true Android.
Thanks in advance,
996
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As many other people have said:
1) Titanium Backup (if you want to easily port over apps & settings from your old phone to your new phone).
2) AdAway (both web-based AdAway and YouTube AdBlocker).
3) WiFi Tethering - Makes it a lot easier to do on any carrier
4) GravityBox (an XPosed module). Lets you customize the UI of your phone without installing custom ROMs; such as circle battery indicators, expanded Reboot menus, change color and behavior of the Status Bar, etc.
If you're going to be getting a Moto X Pure, you really should root the phone the moment you get it. The process of rooting this phone will wipe the phone clean. And it allows you to use Titanium Backup to port over apps & settings from your old phone. Both are reasons why you should root immediately, rather than wait 2 months to do it.

kent1146 said:
As many other people have said:
1) Titanium Backup (if you want to easily port over apps & settings from your old phone to your new phone).
2) AdAway (both web-based AdAway and YouTube AdBlocker).
3) WiFi Tethering - Makes it a lot easier to do on any carrier
4) GravityBox (an XPosed module). Lets you customize the UI of your phone without installing custom ROMs; such as circle battery indicators, expanded Reboot menus, change color and behavior of the Status Bar, etc.
If you're going to be getting a Moto X Pure, you really should root the phone the moment you get it. The process of rooting this phone will wipe the phone clean. And it allows you to use Titanium Backup to port over apps & settings from your old phone. Both are reasons why you should root immediately, rather than wait 2 months to do it.
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Not necessarily some people like myself will wait a few days to make sure all the hardware is up to snuff to make sure if something is wrong the return process isn't complicated. And I doubt many people wait a couple of months unless they're waiting a stable recovery or xposed module.

just to be clear, M will require you to flash a custom kernel for root, unless Chainfire somehow updates SuperSU to play nice with the stock M kernel. Also system RW protection is enabled by default at the kernel level on M.

Stock w/Xposed vs. Custom Rom?

Hey everyone, so I am pretty new to the whole android scene and had a couple of questions.
Do you prefer to use stock w/Xposed or a custom rom? And what are your reasons for doing so?
Also, I had a OPO before and had it rooted and had Blisspop installed. One thing that I really liked was the fact that I could install the nightly updates from the Rom settings, and it did not affect my root status at all. Are there any decent ROM's that can do the same thing for the Nexus 6p?
Thanks for the time and sorry if these are dumb questions!

Mountainmohawk said:
Hey everyone, so I am pretty new to the whole android scene and had a couple of questions.
Do you prefer to use stock w/Xposed or a custom rom? And what are your reasons for doing so?
Also, I had a OPO before and had it rooted and had Blisspop installed. One thing that I really liked was the fact that I could install the nightly updates from the Rom settings, and it did not affect my root status at all. Are there any decent ROM's that can do the same thing for the Nexus 6p?
Thanks for the time and sorry if these are dumb questions!
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Your custom ROM had root included.; standard feature in every custom ROM. But that doesn't matter anymore, since SuperSU 2.60+ doesn't write to /system.
Stock ROM, franco kernel, Xposed for me. Because I can.

You can install a custom ROM of choice and xposed. Just be careful not to enable any modules or settings that conflict with your custom ROM. If you have any problems you can always flash xposed uninstaller in twrp and try again. This way you can have the best of both worlds. I'm currently running pure nexus with elemental x kernal as well as xposed.

Does pure nexus allow you to install updates through the settings without having to manually flash a new image?

As of now I'm running stock with Xposed. Stock has just been so damn smooth, fast and stable I feel no need for a custom ROM. Plus Xposed takes care of all the little tweaks/mods that make the phone look unique/custom to my liking.

Most of the custom ROMs we have are just the stock ROM with some features added, so what you really need to ask yourself is whether you want features built in to the ROM, or whether you want to lose some of the ART opportunities by using Xposed.

Heisenberg said:
Most of the custom ROMs we have are just the stock ROM with some features added, so what you really need to ask yourself is whether you want features built in to the ROM, or whether you want to lose some of the ART opportunities by using Xposed.
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What exactly do you mean by losing some of the ART opportunities by using xposed? Is there a downside to it?

Mountainmohawk said:
Does pure nexus allow you to install updates through the settings without having to manually flash a new image?
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With pure nexus you have to download a new update and flash in twrp. So far I've been able to dirty flash all updates except the 6.01 upgrade. It only takes a couple minutes to do.

Mountainmohawk said:
What exactly do you mean by losing some of the ART opportunities by using xposed? Is there a downside to it?
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When Xposed first came around it would only work on the Dalvik runtime. When Android switched to the ART runtime with Lollipop I remember reading that the Xposed devs had to mess a bit with the ART optimisations to get Xposed to work with it. It probably isn't all that noticeable in the real world. But really, most custom ROMs for Nexus phones are based on the stock ROM anyway, they're both derived from the same aosp builds. So the argument that stock is smoother is pure placebo. You can choose to have features built into the ROM, or choose to add features yourself via Xposed, the native option seems like a better choice to me.

I'm also on stock + xposed. I thought this would be the most stable, but I seem to get apps crashing at least 10 times per day, ie "App X stopped working. Close or Wait?".
Does anyone else have a similar problem, or would this be addressed if I installed a custom rom?

qwertyuiop89 said:
I'm also on stock + xposed. I thought this would be the most stable, but I seem to get apps crashing at least 10 times per day, ie "App X stopped working. Close or Wait?".
Does anyone else have a similar problem, or would this be addressed if I installed a custom rom?
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I'd certainly try a custom ROM, you won't know until you try unfortunately.

To root or not to root

My hat goes off to hauwei and Google for building this handset.
I have been using a galaxy s6 for the past year rooted and tweaked to the best of my knowledge and what could be mustered with the closed source and exynos7420. I have been using the 6P for two days and honestly I'm considering something I thought I wouldn't try...... Stock no root. I have always rooted my devices and played round with them built a popular rom back in the gt540 days but this phone this beast I'm actually considering stock.
So my question currently cyanogenmod shows nightly builds but no stable builds, so unofficial at best and it looks to be the same for a lot of other roms as cm seems to be the major base for 90% of roms now, so what are currently the advantages of these builds or the builds based off stock?
Obviously there is adaway and Xposed and viper4android but in terms of build performance battery life and stability is it worth moving off stock atm?
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Danzano said:
My hat goes off to hauwei and Google for building this handset.
I have been using a galaxy s6 for the past year rooted and tweaked to the best of my knowledge and what could be mustered with the closed source and exynos7420. I have been using the 6P for two days and honestly I'm considering something I thought I wouldn't try...... Stock no root. I have always rooted my devices and played round with them built a popular rom back in the gt540 days but this phone this beast I'm actually considering stock.
So my question currently cyanogenmod shows nightly builds but no stable builds, so unofficial at best and it looks to be the same for a lot of other roms as cm seems to be the major base for 90% of roms now, so what are currently the advantages of these builds or the builds based off stock?
Obviously there is adaway and Xposed and viper4android but in terms of build performance battery life and stability is it worth moving off stock atm?
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CM definitely isn't the base for most (or even a small percentage) of ROMs on a Nexus, most ROMs are based on the official aosp source. Most ROMs that I've tried are as stable as stock. What are the advantages? Added features. You're probably better off of gaining extra features via a custom ROM with those features built in, than gaining them by adding Xposed modules to the stock ROM. If you need instructions on unlocking/flashing/rooting this device I have a detailed guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
PS. As per the rules, please only bump a thread once every 24 hours, it had only been exactly 94 minutes in this case.

Heisenberg said:
CM definitely isn't the base for most (or even a small percentage) of ROMs on a Nexus, most ROMs are based on the official aosp source. Most ROMs that I've tried are as stable as stock. What are the advantages? Added features. You're probably better off of gaining extra features via a custom ROM with those features built in, than gaining them by adding Xposed modules to the stock ROM. If you need instructions on unlocking/flashing/rooting this device I have a detailed guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
PS. As per the rules, please only bump a thread once every 24 hours, it had only been exactly 94 minutes in this case.
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I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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Danzano said:
I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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No, Nexus devices do not have any sort of flash counter. Though, during the first 1-2 months of the 6P release, rumor had it that the phone has a blowable QFuse, which would be irreversible if you unlock the bootloader.
However, later on the skepticism was wiped away, and it was clarified that nothing as such exists. Yes, the QFuse exists, but its completely unrelated.

Danzano said:
I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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No flash counters or anything like that on the Nexus, never has been and probably never will be. It is first and foremost a development device, it just happened to catch on in the mainstream too. If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask, we have a great community of people helping out in the guide thread.

DJBhardwaj said:
No, Nexus devices do not have any sort of flash counter. Though, during the first 1-2 months of the 6P release, rumor had it that the phone has a blowable QFuse, which would be irreversible if you unlock the bootloader.
However, later on the skepticism was wiped away, and it was clarified that nothing as such exists. Yes, the QFuse exists, but its completely unrelated.
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Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.

Danzano said:
Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.
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My advice: don't use a toolkit. They can make things easier sometimes but easier isn't always a good thing. They've been known to cause issues, and there's really no substitute for ensuring things go right by doing it yourself. Plus, if you're going to be modifying your phone, you really need to have a good working knowledge of fastboot, especially on a Nexus. That's what will get you out of trouble if it arises.
If you're looking for a pretty stock-like experience but with some great features added I'd recommend trying out Pure Nexus, it's a rock solid ROM with useful extra features. I have links to all ROMs (and basically anything useful for this device) in my index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/index-huawei-nexus-6p-t3213583

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My advice: don't use a toolkit. They can make things easier sometimes but easier isn't always a good thing. They've been known to cause issues, and there's really no substitute for ensuring things go right by doing it yourself. Plus, if you're going to be modifying your phone, you really need to have a good working knowledge of fastboot, especially on a Nexus. That's what will get you out of trouble if it arises.
If you're looking for a pretty stock-like experience but with some great features added I'd recommend trying out Pure Nexus, it's a rock solid ROM with useful extra features. I have links to all ROMs (and basically anything useful for this device) in my index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/index-huawei-nexus-6p-t3213583
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Fantastic thread mate ill be getting my study pants on haha used to use fastboot with my one x and the g2 but havent in awhile so ill go make sure im all up to date before I pull the trigger
One last question if ive already downloaded my whole spotify playlist 8GB can I pull that from the phone with adb backup and restore it so i dont have to re download everything pretty sure its encrypted so not sure it can be done.

Danzano said:
Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.
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Depends entirely on your choice. If you want to learn more about your device and how things work on it, you can perform things by yourself. Doing it manually also helps you keep a track of things that are going on, so if somehow your device is stuck, or not functioning as it should, you can always track back the source of the issue. And since you performed it yourself, you will know it better.
On the other side, toolkits have their own benefits. If you just want to perform procedures without much hassle and automate everything, you can go for them. All the toolkits here is the 6P section have proved useful to many users. You can try all of them, and see which one works better for you and your phone.
I for once have tried SKIPSOFT Android toolkit, offers a lot of functions. At the same time, there is Squabbi's Nexus 6P Toolkit, which has a more user-friendly interface, and much simpler to use.
Personally, I don't prefer toolkits, they could be buggy, at times. And have never suited my purpose.

Danzano said:
Fantastic thread mate ill be getting my study pants on haha used to use fastboot with my one x and the g2 but havent in awhile so ill go make sure im all up to date before I pull the trigger
One last question if ive already downloaded my whole spotify playlist 8GB can I pull that from the phone with adb backup and restore it so i dont have to re download everything pretty sure its encrypted so not sure it can be done.
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That depends, is it just stored in a folder on your internal storage or is it stored as app data?

Heisenberg said:
That depends, is it just stored in a folder on your internal storage or is it stored as app data?
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I believe its stored as app data because even with root explorer on the S6 I couldnt find it but if I looked at the app size in the S6 app manager it didnt show the music as part of the apps usage if that makes sense.
Ill try pull data and see if it works if it does ill be sure to post it as it could be a life saver for others who once they start flashing wont stop

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I believe its stored as app data because even with root explorer on the S6 I couldnt find it but if I looked at the app size in the S6 app manager it didnt show the music as part of the apps usage if that makes sense.
Ill try pull data and see if it works if it does ill be sure to post it as it could be a life saver for others who once they start flashing wont stop
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Well it'd only be an issue right now due to the bootloader unlock process wiping your internal storage. It isn't necessary to do so when flashing ROMs so the data would remain intact through ROM flashes.

Heisenberg said:
Well it'd only be an issue right now due to the bootloader unlock process wiping your internal storage. It isn't necessary to do so when flashing ROMs so the data would remain intact through ROM flashes.
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If I have developer options enabled on stock could i not adb pull all data?
If not ohwell just means my connection will get another day of thrashing lol
So dirty flashes are not a big issue on the nexus roms? or you mean backup data in twrp and restore after the rom flash?

Danzano said:
If I have developer options enabled on stock could i not adb pull all data?
If not ohwell just means my connection will get another day of thrashing lol
So dirty flashes are not a big issue on the nexus roms? or you mean backup data in twrp and restore after the rom flash?
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Yes you should be able to use adb pull to grab the data. What I meant was that'd only be necessary if your entire internal storage is about to be wiped, like prior to unlocking the bootloader.
And no, definitely don't dirty flash when changing ROMs, and definitely don't restore the /data portion of a nandroid backup on a different ROM. Both will cause major issues. What I meant about that was sometimes some of the data (your playlist for example) is not stored as a part of the app, but is instead stored in the internal storage. Because the internal storage itself isn't wiped during a wipe preceding a ROM flash (a clean flash involves wiping system, data, cache, dalvik cache) the playlist would still be present on your storage after flashing the new ROM.
Anyway, the whole point was in response to your comment about it being useful to frequent flashers, when in reality it (adb backup) is only really ever needed once (before your storage is wiped during the bootloader unlock). Sorry if I'm not making sense, I don't feel like I am haha.

Heisenberg said:
Yes you should be able to use adb pull to grab the data. What I meant was that'd only be necessary if your entire internal storage is about to be wiped, like prior to unlocking the bootloader.
And no, definitely don't dirty flash when changing ROMs, and definitely don't restore the /data portion of a nandroid backup on a different ROM. Both will cause major issues. What I meant about that was sometimes some of the data (your playlist for example) is not stored as a part of the app, but is instead stored in the internal storage. Because the internal storage itself isn't wiped during a wipe preceding a ROM flash (a clean flash involves wiping system, data, cache, dalvik cache) the playlist would still be present on your storage after flashing the new ROM.
Anyway, the whole point was in response to your comment about it being useful to frequent flashers, when in reality it (adb backup) is only really ever needed once (before your storage is wiped during the bootloader unlock). Sorry if I'm not making sense, I don't feel like I am haha.
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That makes sense almost got all the updated sdk tools now so will get to backing up then rooting just wanted to double check on the backing up because i have to nuke the internal storage when i unlock the bootloader

On pure nexus now with elementalx kernel well worth it
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On pure nexus now with elementalx kernel well worth it
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Nice

Unlocking bootloader.
Quick question regarding unlocking bootloader on 6p.
I understand that unlocking will trigger the software verification warning when starting the phone. If I return completely stock at a later date and re-lock the bootloader will the verification warning be disabled?
I'm not new to the rooting/flashing thing and have modified all of my previous Androids, but there are conflicting reports as to whether this is the case. A couple of videos on YouTube make it appear that the message is disabled after a return to stock.

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Quick question regarding unlocking bootloader on 6p.
I understand that unlocking will trigger the software verification warning when starting the phone. If I return completely stock at a later date and re-lock the bootloader will the verification warning be disabled?
I'm not new to the rooting/flashing thing and have modified all of my previous Androids, but there are conflicting reports as to whether this is the case. A couple of videos on YouTube make it appear that the message is disabled after a return to stock.
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Yes, the message will disappear if the bootloader is relocked. That's the only way to remove it. Not sure if you need it but I have a detailed unlock/root/flash guide for our device here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928

Re-purpose Nexus 7 as a Dedicated Comic Reader

Hi there. So I've got a Nexus 7 (2012 WiFi) that I've had since launch. It's obviously quite old now and thus it's incredibly slow. I had issues updating it to the latest version of Android that was made available by Google for it to the point that I had to sideload the update using adb. Basically, the reason I even bought it in the first place was to use it as a dedicated digital comic reader. So that's kinda what I want to use it for going forward. But in its current state, it's just so slow and sketchy, I'm hoping to flash a new ROM or some kind of custom stripped-down version of Android with just the basics to extend the life of the device. The size is great and the screen still looks great, but many stock features are no longer necessary for my purposes. If anyone has any suggestions on a good way to strip down features to improve performance, or advice on a good ROM that's been known to greatly improve the performance of this dated device, that would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Projektor said:
Hi there. So I've got a Nexus 7 (2012 WiFi) that I've had since launch. It's obviously quite old now and thus it's incredibly slow. I had issues updating it to the latest version of Android that was made available by Google for it to the point that I had to sideload the update using adb. Basically, the reason I even bought it in the first place was to use it as a dedicated digital comic reader. So that's kinda what I want to use it for going forward. But in its current state, it's just so slow and sketchy, I'm hoping to flash a new ROM or some kind of custom stripped-down version of Android with just the basics to extend the life of the device. The size is great and the screen still looks great, but many stock features are no longer necessary for my purposes. If anyone has any suggestions on a good way to strip down features to improve performance, or advice on a good ROM that's been known to greatly improve the performance of this dated device, that would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Pure Nexus +Parrot mod.

wtherrell said:
Pure Nexus +Parrot mod.
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Edit: Thanks for the response, I'll look into these.

wtherrell said:
Pure Nexus +Parrot mod.
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It's been a while since I've touched this stuff, but I recall that my Nexus 7 is rooted already. That being said, I'm not sure I remember how to Flash ROMs etc.
Could I trouble you for some help with instructions on how to achieve this?
Thanks again...

Projektor said:
It's been a while since I've touched this stuff, but I recall that my Nexus 7 is rooted already. That being said, I'm not sure I remember how to Flash ROMs etc.
Could I trouble you for some help with instructions on how to achieve this?
Thanks again...
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I know I risk the wrath of the purists here but Wugs Nexus root toolkit or the Skipsoft one are handy. If you want to truly get down to the nuts and bolts you can do as the purists suggest and use the ADB /Fastboot command interface in the Android software development kit.
You will use one of those to install a custom recovery such as TWRP. You will then download the rom (and gapps) if not already included. You may also need SuperSU to handle root management. You flash roms, gapps, etc. through TWRP.

Thanks for the response. I'm just about finished my Root + TWRP with Wug's kit.
Coming from the stock nakasi-lmy47v-factory (5.1.1)
So I think at this point, I've:
-unlocked the bootloader
-installed TWRP 3.1.0-0-grouper.img
-Rooted using SuperSU v2.79-SR3
Just based on what I've done, and my intention to flash a custom version of Pure Nexus, my rooting may have been redundant for now and will need to be done again?
I guess the next thing I need to determine is if I need to flash a new Kernel. I'm currently using 3.1.10-gf5d7b8b stock Kernel.
Oh, and decide if I should switch to F2SF.

I've successfully got Pure Nexus running with Parrot Mod installed, and it's running beautifully! I opted not to bother switching to F2FS, but may take a look in the future. Thank you so much wtherrell for all your help!

What Roms is everyone running?

What ROM's are people running on their Verizon LG V20? Im getting ready to root mine and go through that process. Looking over the ROM's though and they seem to be lacking. Back in the day we had tons of options, now we have a handful on XDA. Are there ROM's people are running that arent listed?

Using the LineageOS weekly builds and they've been pretty good. Mostly just missing out on the second screen though.

Ashalinia said:
Using the LineageOS weekly builds and they've been pretty good. Mostly just missing out on the second screen though.
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Ive been trying to find screenshots as Im pretty particular on my OS. I used to love MIUI when it was around.

Lineage for ls997 is horrible I'm using emotion build 4-16

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Lineage for ls997 is horrible I'm using emotion build 4-16
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Why is it horrible? And why is Emotion better?

Depend on what device u using

pbedard said:
Depend on what device u using
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That's true for anything. Just going out on a limb here, I'm guessing since we are in the LG V20 forum its safe to assume we are using that device.
Next time come prepared with proof of your claim. With no proof and bold claims you sound like a fool.

as Android goes further the ROM field is super small now KK had the biggest amount of ROMS not a lot of this model I have this version too we have RR DU is coming down the line Lineage WETA AOKP Here is a list of ROMS https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=search&s=us996&type=files

I have a ls997 and im running Paranoid Android.

I have a vs995 and I'm running XOSP ?

Did i pick the wrong phone i cant seem to find a whole lot of roms for the verizon variant I want a debloated stock or a twrp stock flashable that i can use magisk on it is inexcuseable how much verizon pushed onto this phone is it such a tall task do i really have to choose between having no root with a carrier bloated rom and a working 2nd screen to use a asop type rom?

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Did i pick the wrong phone i cant seem to find a whole lot of roms for the verizon variant I want a debloated stock or a twrp stock flashable that i can use magisk on it is inexcuseable how much verizon pushed onto this phone is it such a tall task do i really have to choose between having no root with a carrier bloated rom and a working 2nd screen to use a asop type rom?
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The Verizon build of not so stock is probably what you're looking for. Stock based so everything works minus all the bloat. Has static at boot, search some of the other kernels, there is a few that fix static at boot.

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The Verizon build of not so stock is probably what you're looking for. Stock based so everything works minus all the bloat. Has static at boot, search some of the other kernels, there is a few that fix static at boot.
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that is what i tried first but the rom was not rooted...

Gre thanks

mirrin said:
that is what i tried first but the rom was not rooted...
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Did you flash supersu or magisk? Not all roms come rooted...

None I had issues getting it to work had issues booting found weta it worked it has a janky root but it worked and Pokemon go worked and I don't even get the static lines on the screen...

BroeknOs to be
Currently I'm running stock OS on LightningZap! kernel (still in beta, but looking like I'll have a release soon).
I have gotten BrokenOs running quite well and smoothly. But lacking the second screen is what's holding me back.
On LG V20 AT&T (H910), btw...