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Hi, first time android owner here. I recently switched to the CM nightly builds, which I am loving, however I have noticed the audio quality has dropped of dramatically since switching from the standard oppo fw. Now I am streaming my music from google play which AFAIK was unaffected by the dolby sound and the dirac audio features of the oppo ROM. Is this something that should be expected? Its bad enough that Id rather not listen to music at all. Also is there a possibility of porting the audio features of the standard Oppo ROM to the current CM builds?
At this point I think id rather use a buggy, less functional oppo rom with great sound quality and that just sucks:crying:
I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
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I haven't noticed much of a drop in quality, but I didn't stay on stock for long. Maybe I'll switch back to stock on the next beta and see what the audio and camera are like. I have no camera on my current ROM.
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I should mention I'm also streaming over blue tooth when making this comparison.
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osmosizzz said:
I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
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Well didi you try to listen music with different earphones ? Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
I tryed to use Oppo earphones on HTC and they sounds poor. Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
If you find some conclusion pls let me know, because I'm not willing to use custom rom ..... for now. :victory:
THX
Grimmy91 said:
And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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I have had both HTC One X, and the Droid DNA and I think Oppo sounds better. I don't know about the New HTC One with Boom-Sound though?
Grimmy91 said:
And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:
whynotbgd said:
Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:
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Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.
osmosizzz said:
Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.
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Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).
No No No
Entropy512 said:
Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).
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It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.
whynotbgd said:
It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.
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All marketing mumbojumbo for "cheesy postprocessing and/or lame EQ preset"
The fact that it only works to "fix" Oppo's cheap earbuds is a clear sign that it is just an EQ preset designed to compensate for the deficiencies of cheap earbuds.
All of the research I've read indicates that DIRAC serves to do only one thing: Compensate for cheapo earbuds to make them sound better. It will make good earbuds/earphones sound like crap, and is unncessary with them.
When you can get Monoprice 9927s for <$10:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10823&cs_id=1082303&p_id=9927&seq=1&format=2
http://lifehacker.com/5991079/monoprice-improves-on-the-best-7-headphones-youll-ever-buy
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-headphones-under-30/
And Comply foam replacement tips for $15:
http://www.complyfoam.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Comply-T-400-Isolation-Earphone-Medium/dp/B002NUJ2RM/ (for the non-waxguard version, waxguard is $20 for three pairs)
It's pointless to waste time working around crappy cheap OEM buds.
Edit: In general, Comply foam tips are one of the best "bang for your buck" upgrades for any earbud (except ones that already have foam tips)
Yeah, honestly, this crap is like the same BS they pull with Pixel count in cell cameras.
I have some very nice Westone buds that sound amazing on any phone I've had. Turn off all the garbage and you get yourself a hell of an audio experience. These guys feel like they have to provide some audio gem in name because these bloody devices are phones, not good quality audio gear. If you want to bump your audio experience, go get a portable amp and melt your brain.
The Oppo and CM sound great. Only need I have for the DSP is to tweak the sound of the speaker for voice calls.
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
crackalac87 said:
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I have had no issues with Bluetooth with my Sony bluetooth headset.
Google completely replaced the entire Bluetooth stack with 4.2
crackalac87 said:
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong
osmosizzz said:
I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong
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I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager
I feel like the audio quality improved on the external speaker with cm10.1
osmosizzz said:
speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great.
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Entropy512 said:
I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager
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I'm having big battery issues with my Galaxy S2 and was considering the switch to the Find5, the good sound quality being one of the strongest argument for me so the fact that Dirac is only an EQ to compensate crappy earbuds is kinda bumping me out
A long long time ago I used to listen to music on a iAudio X5 / Shure E4g combo, with great quality (the integrated EQ helped, but still wow, great sound). Now I'm on the GS2, and it's fine with a pair of Ultimate Ears 400vi but I'm not coming back to crappy earbuds, so if the only plus of the Find5 in the audio corner besides the speaker is an EQ then I guess I'll have to wait until the next big cheap thing
What do you think? Considering Oppo opened its sources from the start is it possible that the sound capabilities of the stock rom get ported to other roms like CM?
osmosizzz said:
With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much?
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How does it work on CM? Gotta test that right away on my S2
You definitely have to play with v4a until you get the right sound for you. And sound settings varies from headphone to headphone
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May be an eq thing but stock ROM produces better sound and louder volume. Bass is also stronger on stock ROM.
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whynotbgd said:
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
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took your statement and did a test myself on stock rom and on firefly (international) , found some good music and hooked up the stock headset in the find 5, sounds great with DIRAC , as you said, then switched headset after have playing music in a periode, then tested with DIRAC enabled on my beats audio headset (stock from htc sensation xl), and sound was still really good, not much diffrent, only beats had more bass , but that headset is also a inear headset, which usually gives more bass.
Then just today, after flashing a codefireXperimental rom, as name say, not released at all, and then tested both headsets again, this time, ofc without DIRAC, but nothing else, no audio mods at all. and stock headset is a little bit more bad in cfxp than in stock with DIRAC, but not at all as in other custom roms ive tried. then switched to beats headset, very little diffrent here, from stock rom with DIRAC and now in custom rom.
After all, i think that audio quality ,cant only be blamed at DIRAC , if you look in this link , its pretty impressive who uses DIRAC, so im sure its not crap only
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Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
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Thats not true, it works fine without DIRAC enabled, and after testing my own beats headset with dirac and without in custom roms, i dont hear at all that the sound is more bad with Dirac than it is without, infact i like the audio more with my find 5 and beats audio, even in cfxp, than i do with beats audio on my htc sensation xl.
Hey, I got my new S4 last week and love everything about it but was quite disappointed to find that the "adapt sound" feature isn't available to use globally. My preferred player is Power Amp and I have a custom EQ set up which is good but no quite Adapt Sound which really makes a great difference. I'm not a fan of the slow and sluggish S4 stock player so I would really appreciate is someone had any tips on how to get it working globally or even if someone could share a great EQ setting for PA which could match up to it. My old phone was the HOX with beats audio which made everything sound amazing so an EQ equivalent to that would be great too. Thanks .
Having some issues regarding audio quality. over 92% of my phone's use goes to listening to music through headphones. ALL my past phones have all been HTC running PowerAmp and i have been happy. Unfortunately the audio quality in my Samsung is whack. i changed my mixer settings to get it to be a bit louder at least but when it comes to applying any sort of EQ, the quality is severely damaged. I can't really touch the PowerAmp EQ without bass distortion. i Also tried applying the MusicFX tweak but that only worked once upon enabling. Disabling broke it. and it didn't really work great anyway.
Can anyone shed some light on this? Is there a mod for KitKat that is worth checking out?
billybag said:
Having some issues regarding audio quality. over 92% of my phone's use goes to listening to music through headphones. ALL my past phones have all been HTC running PowerAmp and i have been happy. Unfortunately the audio quality in my Samsung is whack. i changed my mixer settings to get it to be a bit louder at least but when it comes to applying any sort of EQ, the quality is severely damaged. I can't really touch the PowerAmp EQ without bass distortion. i Also tried applying the MusicFX tweak but that only worked once upon enabling. Disabling broke it. and it didn't really work great anyway.
Can anyone shed some light on this? Is there a mod for KitKat that is worth checking out?
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My opinion on this:
if you use ANY equalizer, your headphones are crap. Buy some better headphones.
billybag said:
Having some issues regarding audio quality. over 92% of my phone's use goes to listening to music through headphones. ALL my past phones have all been HTC running PowerAmp and i have been happy. Unfortunately the audio quality in my Samsung is whack. i changed my mixer settings to get it to be a bit louder at least but when it comes to applying any sort of EQ, the quality is severely damaged. I can't really touch the PowerAmp EQ without bass distortion. i Also tried applying the MusicFX tweak but that only worked once upon enabling. Disabling broke it. and it didn't really work great anyway.
Can anyone shed some light on this? Is there a mod for KitKat that is worth checking out?
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Try Viper4Android :good:
I owned a HTC One and that's my regret… HTC is the best for music…
Now, I use PlayerPro with DSP Pack but sound not equal the HTC…
JacK_Sparr0W said:
Try Viper4Android :good:
I owned a HTC One and that's my regret… HTC is the best for music…
Now, I use PlayerPro with DSP Pack but sound not equal the HTC…
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Thanks i am looking into Viper now actually.
billybag said:
Thanks i am looking into Viper now actually.
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Ok but äon is right. If your headphones are crap, any app or mod make your headphones magical… :angel:
I use viper4android right now on my galaxy note 3 and it works amazingly with my "unbranded" beats headphones that came with my HTC One
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I have used Neutronmp music player on all phones over the last year, including HTC One, Nexus 5 and Note 3.
If you're looking to get better audio quality then try flac files rather than mp3.
If you want very high quality audio then use flac files via usb otg cable to external dac / headphone amp such as Fiio E17 provided you have good quality headphones (not iem ear buds irrespective of who makes them )
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speedyjay said:
I use viper4android right now on my galaxy note 3 and it works amazingly with my "unbranded" beats headphones that came with my HTC One
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Same combination as me pretty much, also I use Faux sound and set to quality audio depending on what kernel I am using
I am one of those guys who actually uses the phones's loudspeakers to listen to music, watch videos and stuff. I previously had HTC One M7, and coming from that phone, I noticed even better how bad LG G3's loudspeaker actually sounds. But that's why we use equalizer,eh?
Let me remind you though, this will not make it as good as HTC One's Boomsound speakers, but it is a step to right direction (atleast I think so). Here is a equalizer setting for stock music app, tell me what you think!
TonzaTheChosenOne said:
I am one of those guys who actually uses the phones's loudspeakers to listen to music, watch videos and stuff. I previously had HTC One M7, and coming from that phone, I noticed even better how bad LG G3's loudspeaker actually sounds. But that's why we use equalizer,eh?
Let me remind you though, this will not make it as good as HTC One's Boomsound speakers, but it is a step to right direction (atleast I think so). Here is a equalizer setting for stock music app, tell me what you think!
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Thank you for this, it sounds much richer! Is there any way to make this the default eq setting for all of the phones audio output? It's far too harsh without!
techbananas said:
Thank you for this, it sounds much richer! Is there any way to make this the default eq setting for all of the phones audio output? It's far too harsh without!
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You can search with term "equalizer" on Google Play Store. There's some pretty good ones, but they all have the same problem: they don't have preamp. Without this feature the equalizer's output is really quiet. I am still looking for the best one...
Interesting.
It's too bad that it sounds like butt when you switch to headphones though.
00dahc said:
Interesting.
It's too bad that it sounds like butt when you switch to headphones though.
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Yeah, too much boosted bass and reduced mids. The speaker is designed for mid and high sounds so to get it more bassy, this is the only way.
Viper4Android works well on the G3 but you need to be rooted. It controls each output separately and can change the sound quality quite radically.
ChrisM75 said:
Viper4Android works well on the G3 but you need to be rooted. It controls each output separately and can change the sound quality quite radically.
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Can u pls share your settings of v4android? If not too difficult with pictures is the best. Thanks in advance.
TonzaTheChosenOne said:
I am one of those guys who actually uses the phones's loudspeakers to listen to music, watch videos and stuff. I previously had HTC One M7, and coming from that phone, I noticed even better how bad LG G3's loudspeaker actually sounds. But that's why we use equalizer,eh?
Let me remind you though, this will not make it as good as HTC One's Boomsound speakers, but it is a step to right direction (atleast I think so). Here is a equalizer setting for stock music app, tell me what you think!
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The bass sound on the Note 4 is flat.
I now have HTC One M7 and when the Beats Audio is ON, the bass is nice. I dont know if it is a hardware or software gimmick.
So how do you make the sound on the Note 4 comes out with more bass?
I've always used rocket player's bass boost on my s3.. have you tried that?
Gareee said:
I've always used rocket player's bass boost on my s3.. have you tried that?
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No I have not try it. Does it install the player which I do not need.
For example, I use Tunein Radio Pro alot and it does not have a equalizer.
Is there a stand alone equalizer?
chong67 said:
No I have not try it. Does it install the player which I do not need.
For example, I use Tunein Radio Pro alot and it does not have a equalizer.
Is there a stand alone equalizer?
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I've spent some time on my note 3 messing with bass. All I ever achieved was a bass boost but too low a volume.
There are other music players that can do better neutron, poweramp etc.
My conclusion
1. Use bass enhancing earphones
2. Use an amp
3. Get a different phone
How do you find the Note 4 speaker sound, say in comparison to the thin Note 3 tone?
once you root, there are several sound tweaks you can install..Viper FX has been my favorite in the past
JCM800 said:
How do you find the Note 4 speaker sound, say in comparison to the thin Note 3 tone?
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I never own any Samsung phone (I have HTC One M7 now) and I know the Note 4 is louder than Note 3. Note 4 when you put at 15, it feel like the speaker is about to pop. Its really bad. So I put it at 13. Cover your hand over it and it sounds better. I have pre-order the Note 4.
skibadee said:
I've spent some time on my note 3 messing with bass. All I ever achieved was a bass boost but too low a volume.
There are other music players that can do better neutron, poweramp etc.
My conclusion
1. Use bass enhancing earphones
2. Use an amp
3. Get a different phone
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1. I have done my part cranking up the bass in my car( for example).
2. What amp? Like a receiver?
3. My HTC One M7 when I turn on the Beats Audio, it sound nice! Even when I do BT to my car. I can hear the bass. I will miss HTC phones. I have no choice but to get a Note 4 now.
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once you root, there are several sound tweaks you can install..Viper FX has been my favorite in the past
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It seems like this might one of the reason I have to root my phone. I thought I never have to root a phone (AGAIN!) BUT here is one reason to root it.
chong67 said:
1. I have done my part cranking up the bass in my car( for example).
2. What amp? Like a receiver?
3. My HTC One M7 when I turn on the Beats Audio, it sound nice! Even when I do BT to my car. I can hear the bass. I will miss HTC phones. I have no choice but to get a Note 4 now.
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Like this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0026RJQJ6?pc_redir=1412591146&robot_redir=1
I have one. It works well and isn't too big
Thanks - would you say the audio is grating and thin tho please?
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Like this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0026RJQJ6?pc_redir=1412591146&robot_redir=1
I have one. It works well and isn't too big
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Oh, something like this? I dont even like external power banks.
How does Beats Audio work? I turn it ON and it boost the bass.
JCM800 said:
Thanks - would you say the audio is grating and thin tho please?
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I would say like a cheap AM speaker that is about to be blasted n the paper cone popped!
Someone said cannot compare to the HTC One speakers. And getting HTC is not my option now. I guess you cant have everything.
Omg this is putting me off. I spent £620 on a Note 3 last year,, and the audio when watching YouTube really disappointed me, was thin and treble. My Note 2 blows that away audio wise.
Now, I'm hesitant to spend £620 again if the audio is crap like on the Note 3...
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Omg this is putting me off. I spent £620 on a Note 3 last year,, and the audio when watching YouTube really disappointed me, was thin and treble. My Note 2 blows that away audio wise.
Now, I'm hesitant to spend £620 again if the audio is crap like on the Note 3...
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At least the N4 is louder than the N3.
Most people dont use a phone speaker for fidelity. HTC One speaker phones are the exception!
I respect that. But even notifications on the Note 3 can be thin and harsh. General external speaker sounds,, are thin. I hope this isn't the case with the 4 also?..
I'm waiting for the nexus 6 specs. Rumour is that will have stereo speakers, who knows of their sound quality tho.
Rocket play is a standalone app with an eq built in. Ther ehas supposedly been a way to get better bass on my nexus 7 2013, but in over a year, I've never been able to get it to work. I use roketplayer for my tunes, and use my old S3 earbuds. The note 4 comes with them as well, and I'll be using those.
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Rocket play is a standalone app with an eq built in. Ther ehas supposedly been a way to get better bass on my nexus 7 2013, but in over a year, I've never been able to get it to work. I use roketplayer for my tunes, and use my old S3 earbuds. The note 4 comes with them as well, and I'll be using those.
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I use Tunein Radio Pro to play music and radio. I want bass on it. I already crank up my bass in my car.
If an app like Tunein Radio Pro have no equalizer, then how do I get the added bass?
Thanks.
Has anyone try this???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223