Just got my Pure, should I update to 6.0? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just got my Pure and so far it's perfect. It's still on 5.1 and stock. Should I take the ota update or do it another way or just start? If I go to 6.0 can I go back to 5.1? I kinda want to at least have root but wish it didn't trip the bootloader flag.

I stay stock odexed and rooted because all of the deodexed Roms have produced unfixable lag for me. I am on the latest 6.0 with Feb security update and systemless rooted with frankenclark and performance is super snappy.

Are there any issues/bugs with the 6.0 update. I've read that it has been know to mess up devices

seanfodonnell said:
Are there any issues/bugs with the 6.0 update. I've read that it has been know to mess up devices
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You should do some reading before moving forward.. I'm still 5.1 rooted stock and have been there since September. Not saying not to move forward. I am still questioning need for 6.0, possible storage issues, tibu backups, lag. I've been keeping abreast on threads but just not comfortable with some stuff I see people experiencing. But nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say.
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Is it possible to unlock bootloader, then flash back and forth from 5.1 to 6.0??

seanfodonnell said:
Is it possible to unlock bootloader, then flash back and forth from 5.1 to 6.0??
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I asked that very same question and never got a response. I've not SEEN any post making that statement. If you want to do anything you have to unlock it first. If you're worried about something like that then I'd suggest staying stock and accepting the OTA when you want. You can unlock BL, root, stay 5.1. There is a thread with that allows you to return to STOCK 5.1, but I'm not sure it works if you're on 6.0. Am I making any sense? I'm sure someone can explain it better than I.
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seanfodonnell said:
Is it possible to unlock bootloader, then flash back and forth from 5.1 to 6.0??
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Yes, you can go back to 5.1.1. I did it a few times. Even the bootloader will downgrade safely. That is from the original 6.0 update though. I haven't tried going back to 5.1.1 from the February security update. You can find full flashable firmware for all three versions. I would keep them handy.

milski65 said:
I asked that very same question and never got a response. I've not SEEN any post making that statement. If you want to do anything you have to unlock it first. If you're worried about something like that then I'd suggest staying stock and accepting the OTA when you want. You can unlock BL, root, stay 5.1. There is a thread with that allows you to return to STOCK 5.1, but I'm not sure it works if you're on 6.0. Am I making any sense? I'm sure someone can explain it better than I.
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You can unlock the bootloader and flash 5.1.1 firmware in its entirety from the 6.0 firmware, and it all goes fine. I just did it last week, and it was no different from the RAZR M; you may get a bootloader downgrade warning/failure but it seems to go through fine.
seanfodonnell said:
I just got my Pure and so far it's perfect. It's still on 5.1 and stock. Should I take the ota update or do it another way or just start? If I go to 6.0 can I go back to 5.1? I kinda want to at least have root but wish it didn't trip the bootloader flag.
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Unless you use Firefox for background music and Skype for voice calls, you should be fine. Some applications that download and play back audio are unusable when put into the background. Also, even though mileage may vary, be prepared for reduced battery life.

I just bought this phone and was excited, It's my first phone on a Snapdragon 808 and Android 6, but I have to admit it seems sluggish at times, and not as snappy as I though a flagship would be. It seems to be a software optimization issue to me.
I'n rooting it right now and following the instruction to set the display to run as 1080p.

I have had no sluggishness issues on stock unrooted. The only thing I hated (as with all androids) was the animations and transitions which made the phone seem slow to me. Changed in dev options to .5 made it perfect to me as I do get to enjoy the effects but at a speed that it's more bearable to my tastes
Sent from my awesome phone!!!

eksasol said:
I just bought this phone and was excited, It's my first phone on a Snapdragon 808 and Android 6, but I have to admit it seems sluggish at times, and not as snappy as I though a flagship would be. It seems to be a software optimization issue to me.
I'n rooting it right now and following the instruction to set the display to run as 1080p.
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Same story here, I was able to (for giggles) lock my S4 Pro Droid Maxx to run at minimum CPU frequency (under 400 MHz) and it was perfectly usable, but with this phone, even having two LITTLE cores running at 1.4 GHz makes the phone crash from hanging too long. X Pure is not what I expected it to be performance wise and it makes me miss my Maxx.

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[Q] Ota kk update without factory reset

Is this possible? I'm rooted with a locked bootloader. I Uninstaller alot of apps that came with it. I heard it will cause the Ota to fail
deathwithafi said:
Is this possible? I'm rooted with a locked bootloader. I Uninstaller alot of apps that came with it. I heard it will cause the Ota to fail
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Yes
See my button for a link to all stock apps
deathwithafi said:
Is this possible? I'm rooted with a locked bootloader. I Uninstaller alot of apps that came with it. I heard it will cause the Ota to fail
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Just wait until the devs come out with a flashable zip or the FXZ is posted. Also, if you want to keep root, I wouldn't plan on updating.
Also worth noting - a factory reset won't change anything anyways.
You can RSD back to stock - but remember like RickRong said - the KK update probably won't be rooted.
I do think that an older msm8960 on kk, unrooted may run intolerably slow. While the X unrooted is OK.
aviwdoowks said:
I do think that an older msm8960 on kk, unrooted may run intolerably slow. While the X unrooted is OK.
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It's been my understanding that kk uses less resources and is more compatible with older hardware than jb. I'm expecting it to run better then the stock 4.1.2 rom we've got now.
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My junky old infuse runs kitkat better than jb. 1.4 GHz single core 512mb
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I'm sure I probably don't need to ask this, BUT, when Verizon begins rolling this out, would someone please post their success and results? I'm running Carbon today... not sure what it will be tomorrow. I had OSE installed and was overall satisfied, but the navigation buttons were't working and sometimes the keyboard would refuse to pop up, so that was a no-go.
Thank you.

New Factory Image is available for download. LMY48I

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/08/0...mages-arrive-for-nexus-4-5-6-7-2013-9-and-10/
This opens a number of issues for me.
Between those who said they don't like the performance of Lollipop on razor/razorg and those who said that some of the Lollipop OTAs bricked their devices, I decided to stay on KitKat. And with M coming soon, I am hoping to just sit Lollipop out (and that they will make factory images for M available for razorg!)
But it seems Google isn't back-porting security fixes to KitKat, so if I want to stay secure, I'm going to be forced to update to Lollipop, if not for stagefright, then for some other issue in the near future.
Apart from MMS, do we know what the other potential exploit vectors of the stagefright bug are?
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In regards to performance, my Nexus 7 has never run better since the Lollipop updates. I don't take OTA's though. I run rooted stock, with a custom kernel so that I can slightly overclock the GPU to 450MHz, and the CPU to 1.7GHz, giving me real Snapdragon 600 performance, instead of the underclocked "S4 Pro" speed the Nexus 7 uses by default.
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I'm glad to hear it's doing well for you. Perhaps I'll just flash the latest Lollipop image on it and see.
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New bootloader in LMY48I
When I saw there was a new bootloader, I hesitated. I was afraid it would be locked and have to be unlocked, wiping my N7. But I backed up, plunged ahead, flashed (with WugFresh's Nexus Root Toolkit (NRT) 2.0.5) the new bootloader, then boot.img, system.img, and cache.img. The updated bootloader was still unlocked and I didn't lose my data! I rooted via NRT and all is well. An uneventful update. Hope this helps.
^The bootloader is the same since 5.1. MD5: 2bcd3097abcc6923b2a3e5f6035e3b18
System, boot and recovery.img changed. I just flashed system and boot. No problems. And twrp since flashing only system and boot images somehow the stock recovery appears. I definitely didn't flash the stock recovery...
Lollipop is **** if u are a gamer even on latest releases (playing games other than Candy Crush) . if u don't play games like Vainglory, Minion Rush, Spiderman Unlimited, etc. then u can flash Lollipop (if u are on stock KK and u flash the factory image of Lollipop, then it is impossible to brick your device. If u upgrade from KK to LP using the OTA then u have a chance of bricking the device). If u are like me and u care about the FLO/DEB performance and want to play certain resource demanding games, then go with a KK ROM like Mahdi 2.9 Final and apply a Lollipop theme and u will almost not see any difference in terms of UI.
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having mixed feelings about this new update, installed it and the official zimperium stagefright detector still said I was vulnerable to ALL exploits while another app said I was not vulnerable at all! Don't know what to believe though...
Anyone else still "vulnerable" after this update?
Maybe I'm missing something, but why is stagefright even a concern on the Nexus 7?
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just lou said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but why is stagefright even a concern on the Nexus 7?
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It doesn't only come from MMS but also from browsers like chrome, stock browser, .... which is pretty much a bigger threat than MMS as not everyone knows your phone number but everyone can put there nice little virus on the internet and when accessed they would have full control of our tablets!
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It doesn't only come from MMS but also from browsers like chrome, stock browser, .... which is pretty much a bigger threat than MMS as not everyone knows your phone number but everyone can put there nice little virus on the internet and when accessed they would have full control of our tablets!
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OK. Thanks. I thought it was only a MMS threat.

MXPE on the way. Root after getting M update?

My phone is on the way. It's perfectly timed with the imminent update to Marshmallow.
My plan is to get the OTA update first, and then root the phone. Can I still rely on the existing guides to root the phone? Or would I have to wait until root becomes discovered/available again on the new OS version?
You should be able to root it but we really won't know until the OTA arrives.
I've had the phone for a few days now, and happily I've received the 6.0 update OTA.
Is there any current info how whether Heisenberg's rooting guide still works? (completely, partially, ???)
nibunnoichi said:
I've had the phone for a few days now, and happily I've received the 6.0 update OTA.
Is there any current info how whether Heisenberg's rooting guide still works? (completely, partially, ???)
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yea root works if you read some more you have 2 options to root
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yea root works if you read some more you have 2 options to root
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The only 6.0 root option I've found is the systemless root.
What is the other? Is there regular root for 6.0?
I have not found a thread on that. I have only been reading for a few days, tho.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I have not even picked a ROM yet.
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The only 6.0 root option I've found is the systemless root.
What is the other? Is there regular root for 6.0?
I have not found a thread on that. I have only been reading for a few days, tho.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I have not even picked a ROM yet.
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You flash SuperSU 2.52 + boot_root img. TruePureX rom has already built in Root,also sabissimos rom as well. Just pick rooted one or TruePure
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You flash SuperSU 2.52 + boot_root img. TruePureX rom has already built in Root,also sabissimos rom as well. Just pick rooted one or TruePure
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TruePureX is actually one of the ROMs I was thinking of flashing.
So, if I take the 6.0 update, I can still root in a relatively normal way?
systemless root does not sound like a path I wish to take.
How does the OTA come to this device? A Moto app, I presume?
Does Moto ram it down one's throat, like verizon?
I was just reading on the moto forum, about simply unlocking the bootloader will stop the OTA. I haven't finished the thread, but others were skeptical.
pizza_pablo said:
TruePureX is actually one of the ROMs I was thinking of flashing.
So, if I take the 6.0 update, I can still root in a relatively normal way?
systemless root does not sound like a path I wish to take.
How does the OTA come to this device? A Moto app, I presume?
Does Moto ram it down one's throat, like verizon?
I was just reading on the moto forum, about simply unlocking the bootloader will stop the OTA. I haven't finished the thread, but others were skeptical.
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I have tried both OTA and the stock rooted rom that is here in the development section, there are users who have had great success using the SU version 2.62...I personally have used 2.62, then 2.64 with great success...I have not used the system-less SU in these cases (although I have tested previously and they also worked)
so, feel free to flash the stock rom found in the development section, then flash 2.6(whatever works for you)...none of what I state is an endorsement of one rom over another, as all members here have contributed great efforts to get us this stuff...:good:
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I have tried both OTA and the stock rooted rom that is here in the development section, there are users who have had great success using the SU version 2.62...I personally have used 2.62, then 2.64 with great success...I have not used the system-less SU in these cases (although I have tested previously and they also worked)
so, feel free to flash the stock rom found in the development section, then flash 2.6(whatever works for you)...none of what I state is an endorsement of one rom over another, as all members here have contributed great efforts to get us this stuff...:good:
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I am not really following....I think you are saying that the ROMs are safe.
Are you saying that a "regular" root method, for 6.0 OTA is available and stable and I shouldn't be worried about taking the 6.0 OTA?
If I were to take the 6.0 OTA, could I get back to 5.1, since unlocked bootloader is available?
Could this be done with the return to stock tool, even after 6.0?
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I am not really following....I think you are saying that the ROMs are safe.
Are you saying that a "regular" root method, for 6.0 OTA is available and stable and I shouldn't be worried about taking the 6.0 OTA?
If I were to take the 6.0 OTA, could I get back to 5.1, since unlocked bootloader is available?
Could this be done with the return to stock tool, even after 6.0?
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My point is, if you are rooted and unlocked, why take the OTA if you could just flash the 6.0 stock rom? why would you want to go back to 5.1?
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My point is, if you are rooted and unlocked, why take the OTA if you could just flash the 6.0 stock rom? why would you want to go back to 5.1?
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I just want to learn what I can, before I start doing anything. I've read much, but I'm still confused as to what is possible and what is not. I've not had a phone this new, with the capability of unlocking the bootloader.
I believe that if the MXPE is on 5.1.1 when I fire it up, it will soon want to install the update.
I would like some time with the phone before I have to jump into unlocking and rooting, but I don't think I'll have it, so I would like to be prepared.
Did they lock the bootloader in 6.0?
I'm in the same boat as the op. Seems like there's no clear tutorial or anything. I just want stock with everything included (factory) 6.0 with xposed and root. I didn't even see a flashable stock MM zip with root anywhere.
20degrees said:
Did they lock the bootloader in 6.0?
I'm in the same boat as the op. Seems like there's no clear tutorial or anything. I just want stock with everything included (factory) 6.0 with xposed and root. I didn't even see a flashable stock MM zip with root anywhere.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 here is stock in several flavors...if you do not have root, there are several options to try...systemless, or the latest beta SU's...some have stated that version 2.62 has been good for them...I have tried 2.62 and have also flashed 2.64 and both worked for me. Do some reading in these threads, plenty of guidance and info already about these issues.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 here is stock in several flavors...if you do not have root, there are several options to try...systemless, or the latest beta SU's...some have stated that version 2.62 has been good for them...I have tried 2.62 and have also flashed 2.64 and both worked for me. Do some reading in these threads, plenty of guidance and info already about these issues.
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Believe me, when I say that I AM reading. I had shoulder surgery, last Wednesday, so I've got time on my hands. How else do you think I ended up finding and buying a relatively new Motorola, with unlockable bootloader?
There is just so much info and while reading, I keep going down rabbit trails of other interesting things to know about rooting it, but may not be the most important question I have. I read the entire thread on the (De)Odex Stock / Rooted / Debloated 6.0 MPH24.49-18, last night and am still confused.
It just seems to be unclear whether or not 6.0 is fully rooted and if there is any going back, once you're there.
I am leery, because if the Note 3, in safestrap. Once a LP ROM was flashed there was no going back to KitKat, even tho, early on, many stated that it was possible.
I've been away from Motorola rooting, since my RAZR M. I don't recall all the PC steps.
pizza_pablo said:
Believe me, when I say that I AM reading. I had shoulder surgery, last Wednesday, so I've got time on my hands. How else do you think I ended up finding and buying a relatively new Motorola, with unlockable bootloader?
There is just so much info and while reading, I keep going down rabbit trails of other interesting things to know about rooting it, but may not be the most important question I have. I read the entire thread on the (De)Odex Stock / Rooted / Debloated 6.0 MPH24.49-18, last night and am still confused.
It just seems to be unclear whether or not 6.0 is fully rooted and if there is any going back, once you're there.
I am leery, because if the Note 3, in safestrap. Once a LP ROM was flashed there was no going back to KitKat, even tho, early on, many stated that it was possible.
I've been away from Motorola rooting, since my RAZR M. I don't recall all the PC steps.
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6.0 is rooted...see attached
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6.0 is rooted...see attached
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I believe that 6.0 is rooted.
My question is how.
Which root methods are available?
Is systemless the only choice?
What is the exact (step by step) flash order?
Once the 6.0 OTA is taken, is it possible to go back to 5.1.1 stock or rooted, if desired?
here are my offerings to your questions...
My question is how.
Which root methods are available? SU silly!
Is systemless the only choice? No -- (note my previous screenshot is not systemless and is beta 2.64) see my previous posts on this
What is the exact (step by step) flash order? see this link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/xt1572-mm-twrp-root-xposed-t3276792 but note it is for the 1572 device, steps are the same...you will need the 1575 Stock rom found here instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242
Once the 6.0 OTA is taken, is it possible to go back to 5.1.1 stock or rooted, if desired? look in this thread, but start with this post...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64463125&postcount=179
here are my responses to your offerings to my questions...
My question is how.
Which root methods are available? SU silly! yeah, I meant traditional or systemless, silly
Is systemless the only choice? No -- (note my previous screenshot is not systemless and is beta 2.64) see my previous posts on this got it, thanks!
What is the exact (step by step) flash order? see this link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/xt1572-mm-twrp-root-xposed-t3276792 but note it is for the 1572 device, steps are the same...you will need the 1575 Stock rom found here instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 ok, I've read most of the second link
Once the 6.0 OTA is taken, is it possible to go back to 5.1.1 stock or rooted, if desired? look in this thread, but start with this post...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64463125&postcount=179[/QUOTE] I've read most of this one, too.
I really appreciate you hanging with me, thru my confusion and apprehension!

Root for android nougat in the way future?

When Nougat gets released for this phone in how ever long it takes do you think someone will eventually be able to root it on this phone?
Seriously?
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Seriously?
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you don't have to be a douche
FreshIce21 said:
you don't have to be a douche
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You don't have to call him a douche. Honestly, I was thinking "Seriously?" as well because this is the first thing you think (rather, post of) before Nougat even comes out. We can't see the future, so this question will probably go without an indefinite answer. My input on it, though, is that root is possible if engboot still works, but if it doesn't then we're probably screwed. And I doubt engboot will work without having even MORE issues than it already does, if it even works at all.
But seriously, the name calling was unnecessary. You're the one asking the question, no need to call people names.
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You don't have to call him a douche. Honestly, I was thinking "Seriously?" as well because this is the first thing you think (rather, post of) before Nougat even comes out. We can't see the future, so this question will probably go without an indefinite answer. My input on it, though, is that root is possible if engboot still works, but if it doesn't then we're probably screwed. And I doubt engboot will work without having even MORE issues than it already does, if it even works at all.
But seriously, the name calling was unnecessary. You're the one asking the question, no need to call people names.
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thank you for your reply on your thoughts about it, thats all I was looking for. The person did not have to comment "seriously" he could have just ignore my post all together, I believe he was being a douche. The commenting of "seriously" was unnecessary. I appreciate your answer as I was just curious. Have a good day
Seriously?
FreshIce21 said:
When Nougat gets released for this phone in how ever long it takes do you think someone will eventually be able to root it on this phone?
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It'll come precisely 2 months, 1 week, 3 days, 10 hours, 30 minutes, 6 seconds and 83 milliseconds of nougat drop date
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So rooted MM or non-related Nougat... that will be the question
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I don't understand the reasoning behind the question. Nougat isn't even out yet. If you want root, then root your phone. If you want rooted Nougat, wait a couple days after release for someone to build a rooted ROM on it. Why would you want to flash back to stock just to root again instead of just flashing the rooted version from the beginning? I'm assuming that's why you got the "seriously?" reactions. Well, that and the fact that since Nougat hasn't even been released yet, so it's physically impossibly for anyone to know if it can be rooted. But yeah, I'd advise you to wait until someone uploads a rooted Nougat ROM for your phone instead if flashing back to stock and hoping to root that way. Its a million times easier to root it before putting it on your device
Based upon my understanding of how KNOX operates along with the stricter changes made to dm-verity in 7.0, I wouldn't hold my breath when it comes to rooting the S7. I know that the guys that come up with these rooting methods are very creative and smart, but KNOX, combined with SELinux, dm-verity, and locked bootloaders, is almost impossible to overcome. I've been looking at the people discussing the dirtyc0w exploit as an alternative root method, and I don't think it's possible to use it because of these safeguards.
We were extremely lucky with the leaked engboot method of rooting the S7. Without that, it's very possible that we still wouldn't have root on it.
Just a bit of addition to this conversation: It's likely our current root method won't work on Nougat. It depends on how different the kernels are, but since the engboot is built for MM there's no guarantee it's compatible with a new version. There's no guarantee it won't prevent flashing the engboot kernel once you're on it, and flashing a rooted system and then switching kernels won't help since the new kernel will verify the system.
I just really hope that we can get SuperSU on Nougat now that It has began to roll out today on my AT&T Galaxy S7. I've captured the ota update for it but someone else has already posted them on the forums so I won't waste my time. Despite how beautiful Nougat looks, I'm gonna wait and stick with MM. Why? Root. I'm almost certain that once you've updated to Nougat, it won't let you flash back to MM because of the locked bootloader, and for me personally, I want to keep root so bad because of the Viper4Android equalizer. The thing gives great sound quality and music wouldn't be the same without it. Honestly, If you really wanted to keep root then my advice is to stick with MM and wait (as long as it may take) for a working root method to come out for this new update.
Cheers!
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I just really hope that we can get SuperSU on Nougat now that It has began to roll out today on my AT&T Galaxy S7. I've captured the ota update for it but someone else has already posted them on the forums so I won't waste my time. Despite how beautiful Nougat looks, I'm gonna wait and stick with MM. Why? Root. I'm almost certain that once you've updated to Nougat, it won't let you flash back to MM because of the locked bootloader, and for me personally, I want to keep root so bad because of the Viper4Android equalizer. The thing gives great sound quality and music wouldn't be the same without it. Honestly, If you really wanted to keep root then my advice is to stick with MM and wait (as long as it may take) for a working root method to come out for this new update.
Cheers!
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You can downgrade back to MM. Both the updates are on bootloader v4.
KingOfTheNet said:
I just really hope that we can get SuperSU on Nougat now that It has began to roll out today on my AT&T Galaxy S7. I've captured the ota update for it but someone else has already posted them on the forums so I won't waste my time. Despite how beautiful Nougat looks, I'm gonna wait and stick with MM. Why? Root. I'm almost certain that once you've updated to Nougat, it won't let you flash back to MM because of the locked bootloader, and for me personally, I want to keep root so bad because of the Viper4Android equalizer. The thing gives great sound quality and music wouldn't be the same without it. Honestly, If you really wanted to keep root then my advice is to stick with MM and wait (as long as it may take) for a working root method to come out for this new update.
Cheers!
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Which V4A version are you using. I can't find one that works with my phone. I'm on APK1 stock rooted.
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Which V4A version are you using. I can't find one that works with my phone. I'm on APK1 stock rooted.
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I simply downloaded and am currently using the latest update from the developers website. Be sure to download the latest version of the app listed under "Viper4Android FX" and make sure BusyBox is properly installed on your device under /system/xbin or /system/bin. I was previously on APJ4 and just upgraded to APK1 today and haven't noticed any problems.
http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=48
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The future development of the S7 Edge?

Let me start off by saying i appreciate all the developers who put in the hard work to make root and such possible. I could not imagine the frustration they go through.
So my question is about the future of this phones development, I feel like as of December 31 2016 that the chances of root are only for those with builds with/under pd8 (as far as I'm aware) (I am running PK1) everyone above pd8 build is SoL. So my question, is there any chance we will see full root for those of us on the newer builds? Also with the talks of the Nougat update around the corner will root be harder to achieve seeing as its new firmware and developers haven't had much time digging into it? My reason for wanting root is to have xposed running, viper4android and be able to debloat it. Forgive my ignorance but does it feel like the s7e development is stuck? I feel like maybe I would get a better experience if I traded in s7e for a device that has more stable development. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, if anything I just want to be informed.
isaac970 said:
Let me start off by saying i appreciate all the developers who put in the hard work to make root and such possible. I could not imagine the frustration they go through.
So my question is about the future of this phones development, I feel like as of December 31 2016 that the chances of root are only for those with builds with/under pd8 (as far as I'm aware) (I am running PK1) everyone above pd8 build is SoL. So my question, is there any chance we will see full root for those of us on the newer builds? Also with the talks of the Nougat update around the corner will root be harder to achieve seeing as its new firmware and developers haven't had much time digging into it? My reason for wanting root is to have xposed running, viper4android and be able to debloat it. Forgive my ignorance but does it feel like the s7e development is stuck? I feel like maybe I would get a better experience if I traded in s7e for a device that has more stable development. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, if anything I just want to be informed.
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Nothing sure what kind of answer you're looking for that you wouldn't already know.
We only have root due to an engineering kernel.
Android 7 requires a different kernel. So we can't use it.
So unless we get a leaked engineering kernel for Android 7 then we will have to see if we can unlock the bootloader or discover some other kind of exploit. But I'm sure you already knew all of that.
The s7 is pretty much dead, are only hope is that a dev finds an exploit and capitalizes or an inside man leaks a file for Nougat.
AceDaMack said:
The s7 is pretty much dead, are only hope is that a dev finds an exploit and capitalizes or an inside man leaks a file for Nougat.
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I just got CM14 (Nougat) on my Note 4, it made it into a whole new device way better than the laggy S7Edge. Here's hope that Nougat has some exploit and we can root it. CM14 is so smooth.
Root is supposed to work thru pk1 with eng kernel. When I update to official 7.x I am going to leave bootloader as is so I can still root.
I am not impressed that much with the new rom and hate the user interface, so I may go back to rooted 6.0 until if and when 7.x is rooted.
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gaww said:
Root is supposed to work thru pk1 with eng kernel. When I update to official 7.x I am going to leave bootloader as is so I can still root.
I am not impressed that much with the new rom and hate the user interface, so I may go back to rooted 6.0 until if and when 7.x is rooted.
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you may not be able to bootup android 7 with a MM bootloader. I ran into this problem in the past with my older notes. I couldn't get MM to work on a LP bootloader. It would awesome if someone could pull out the Beta nougat BL so we could revert it ends up being a problem.
black96ss said:
you may not be able to bootup android 7 with a MM bootloader. I ran into this problem in the past with my older notes. I couldn't get MM to work on a LP bootloader. It would awesome if someone could pull out the Beta nougat BL so we could revert it ends up being a problem.
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Before I went back to stock to get the beta on the second phase, I went to stock Verizon and flashed their beta.
I was able to revert to stock tmo pk1, so am hoping that will be possible with the official 7.0 also, as that bootloader in rootable.
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gaww said:
Before I went back to stock to get the beta on the second phase, I went to stock Verizon and flashed their beta.
I was able to revert to stock tmo pk1, so am hoping that will be possible with the official 7.0 also, as that bootloader in rootable.
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it was also BETA so they purposely could let you revert back if you didn't like the bugs ons BETA. that's why I said would be awesome if someone could pull the BETA boatloader so you have best of both worlds(pending on if they the official update wont boot up with a MM BL)
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it was also BETA so they purposely could let you revert back if you didn't like the bugs ons BETA. that's why I said would be awesome if someone could pull the BETA boatloader so you have best of both worlds(pending on if they the official update wont boot up with a MM BL)
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If we can't revert back to a bootable mm and that us no sign of a rootable nouget, I may just kiss thus device good by and get a 935f.
Chen has multiboot working on it plus, he has a 7.0 Rom with Wi-Fi calling working. I may have to give up some tmo network features, but given that they have no plans to get the higher speed frequencies where I live, there is not much that I will be loosing out on.
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gaww said:
If we can't revert back to a bootable mm and that us no sign of a rootable nouget, I may just kiss thus device good by and get a 935f.
Chen has multiboot working on it plus, he has a 7.0 Rom with Wi-Fi calling working. I may have to give up some tmo network features, but given that they have no plans to get the higher speed frequencies where I live, there is not much that I will be loosing out on.
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I was thinking the same thing, what all features would you lose? obviously t mobile bloat and wifi calling. what LTE bands would we lose?
black96ss said:
I was thinking the same thing, what all features would you lose? obviously t mobile bloat and wifi calling. what LTE bands would we lose?
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Would not loose WiFi calling - it is working in Chen's 935f ROM. I think we loose band 12 and possibly another, bit not sure.
The best way would be to ask him - but am going to search his threads before I ask.

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