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Hi everyone.
Id like to start a thread where we collect, post and discuss all known individual tweaks and changes that can be made to the Galaxy Tab in order to gain performance and stability.
My experience with the Galaxy Tab has been similar to my latest phone, an HTC HD2. When I got the HD2 about one year ago, I positively hated it... slow, unstable, all sorts of problems, lags, crashes... its the way most of the hardware today is released. One year later, my HD2 has become the most amazing machine I've ever owned. From pushing it 1.6GHz stable, to tweaking registry, XML files, services and making everything work well. I remember not being able to watch smooth video on the HD2 to being able to watch flawlessly 720p content and going from the extreme of detesting the phone to loving it.
It was with the HD2 I discovered Android and fell in love with it. Since I have now two HD2s I have one with an SD ROM version of Gingerbread (that I can dual boot still from Windows Mobile) and a Froyo NAND. I run Android on the HD2 much much much faster and smoother than on the Galaxy Tab, that I also hated when I bought it a few weeks and that am starting to like after getting to know it, a new ROM, apps, etc. Even at 1GHz stock the HD2 with Froyo is vastly faster, smoother, more responsive and better to use. The approach d like to do as far as tweaking the Galaxy Tab is the same as I did for the HD2 with Windows Mobile, that is, install the best/fastest ROM I can, delete and remove all stuff I don't need and then tweak what's left.
The tweaks I've done so far on the Galaxy are simple but have made a huge difference. Id like with this thread to be able to collect individual tweaks and post them all here to share with everyone.
Im using Roto JMI Pre-Rooted Firmware v2 which was the main step after getting rid of the stock Samsung Rom that is nothing but a collection of problems.
The first thing I learned with this Tab is that WHATEVER IS ON YOUR HOME SCREENS THAT MOVES, IS BAD! Forget about having ANY type of apps or widgets that do any type of refresh, including stuff running on the upper task bar if they change icons or the move around… that mean a CPU cycle and refresh each time and there goes the tab's performance and battery life. The same goes for any type of Live Wallpaper. Beautiful but deadly. Never touch them!
- So, after a new ROM, the first thing I did was changing the file system to EXT4. This is the SINGLE BEST THING you can do to radically improve the performance of the Tab. Its extremely easy to do and the step-by-step instructions are as follow:
- Make sure you have an miniSD Card in with plenty of available space (it will be used automatically to backup your system during the conversion process)
- Get p1000-mck-r3-ext4-cwm.tar (the EXT4 Conversion Kernel)
- Connect the Tab in Downloading Mode to your PC via USB, start Odin3 1.7 and load the Kernel (click on the PDA button and select the p1000-mck-r3-ext4-cwm.tar and make sure PDA stays ticked after selecting the file).
- UNTICK Re-Partition check box and make sure the only boxes ticked are:
Auto Reboot
F. Reset Time
The PDA tickbox
- Click start and wait for PASS! (it will show highlighted green or Yellow on Odin)
- Now the Tab will restart and get stuck on the Samsung loading screen. This is normal. Turn it off by holding the power button for 5 seconds.
- Turn on the Tab again on into RECOVERY mode (Press Volume UP and Power On at the same time) and the EXT4 conversion will start automatically. The process will take up to one hour depending on how much stuff you have on your Tab. It took about 10 minutes on mine because I have a fresh install of Roto JMI v2.
- Once finished, click "Reboot System Now" (by pressing the power button).
- The reboot may take a while first time so be patient!
- Done!
- After that, the first tweak I did was to get rid of all my favorite widgets that moved around… net meter, news, weather and all these beautiful things KILL the Tab. Equally I had a CPU meter on the tray refreshing every 2 seconds and it took me a while to figure out that was the reason why every 2 seconds the system would stutter, whether watching a movie or browsing the web. So, out!
- Next was to install SetCPU under the ON DEMAND setting, minimum around 750MHz and maximum 1000MHz (unfortunately only with a custom Kernel you can go higher, currently up to 1.4GHz but not full stable and with lots of issues pending so I don’t recommend it)
- My following step was to get rid of the stock Samsung Homescreen (that is a resource hog and slow as hell) and replace it with a new one. I've tried them all and am making no recommendation here but the one that works for me and is by far the best IMO is LauncherPro. This single app makes using the Tab a whole better experience.
- Next was to disable the USELESS and (resource pig) Gallery and replace it with an app called QuickPic that is blazing fast (actually instant) and simply amazing to browse and view all media on the Tab.
- Next was to greatly improve the poor native GPS reception by replacing high performance files and drivers from the Orange Rom P1000JHKA1 that seems to work on all versions of the Tab, as originally posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922692
- With SystemApp Remover 4.12 I have disabled all system apps and services I don’t need (BE VERY CAREFUL AND DON'T REMOVE ROM APPS YOU WILL NEED). I have actually deleted some from ROM (Root access required of course), this includes useless stuff like STK Service starting every time, most of the Samsung stuff that I really don’t care for and just about all apps I know for sure I will never open a single time. Now, its important to understand if these apps are removed they will be removed PERMANENTLY from ROM so to get the back a hard reset will not be enough, you'll have to fully flash the ROM again. For most system apps I don’t use but am not sure, I use a different option and that is to simply disable them. In my case this includes all Bluetooth stuff (I never use it and even if it's off the Services are still running robbing performance and memory) and apps like the built-in Browser, Email and Messaging that suck and that I replaced with better apps. Its always a safer bet, at least initially to disable the apps you don’t need that uninstall them because at least you can go back and change your mind This is one area where Id like to learn more. There are many background services that I don’t know what they do and if they can be disabled or not. If someone knows what each one does and the safety of getting rid of them OR NOT, it would be great to post it here!
- Them, with Startup Auditor 2.3.2 I have disabled all unnecessary apps that start automatically every time the Tab boots so I don't have excess applications starting up that are not needed. Some I configured to be killed AGAIN if the system tries to restart them later after the boot-up
- Using Task Manager 1.0.7 and letting always run on background, I have configured all apps that I don’t need running to be auto-killed every time the phone goes to stand-by (screen off). This saves me lots of memory and CPU time on apps that I am actually not using.
- Finally, I monitor what is going on with an app called CPU Usage Timeliness Free 1.7.1.0 and use it to see EXACTLY which applications are using CPU cycles and interfering with performance. With it I have found that on my Tab I have an unsolved problem that is using over 100MB of memory and non-stop CPU usage between 15% and 45% of something called SECURITY STORAGE. I have no idea what it does. It can't be disabled and I don’t know where all the activity comes from. If someone know more about this and how to fix it, that will be great. Most of the performance issues I have on my Tab come from this Service that I don’t know how to tame. Surely, we can find a solution.
The system background services is one area where I'd like to know one by one, what each service does and if we need them or not, if it can be tweaked, disabled or deleted. Below is a complete list of the services I have safely disabled so far that have given me great performance boosts and with no negative issues on the system (IN BOLD), and OTHERS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT (not bold). Please note these are background services that start automatically. The changes made to the disabled apps/services is that they are reverted to ON-DEMAND so they all still work perfectly.
CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE
COM. SEC.ANDROID.PROVIDERS.DOWNLOADS
CSC
DOWNLOAD MANAGER
DRM CONTENT
EMAIL
GALLERY
GOOGLE PARTNER SETUP
GOOGLE SERVICES FRAMEWORK
MARKET
MEDIA STORAGE
MESSAGING
MUSIC
SAMSUNG ACCOUNT
SERVICE MODE
SNS
WIPEOUT RECEIVER
WORLD CLOCK
Furthermore I uninstalled several of the Samsung Apps I don’t use and STK Service and disabled these system Apps I don’t use (YOU SHOULD CHOOSE THE ONES YOU WANT TO ENABLE OR DISABLE AS YOU MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS):
All Bluetooth Services
All LiveWallpapers Services
Browser
CarHomeGoogle
CarHomeLauncher
Google Feedback
Screen Capture Service
Voice Search
Originally with my Tab I was getting Quadrant below 600 on average. Now, its always over 1900. This is not a "little" improvement, this is amazing upgrading. But id like this to be a starting point to learn and share more ways with everyone we can all share on things we can do to make the Tab as good as it was intended to be for everyone
Cheers!
1.4 oc is stable, and doesn't have any issues for alot of users.
all the things you disabled are all the things i use every day lol
never the less, good post, im going to use a couple apps you mentioned.
natious said:
1.4 oc is stable, and doesn't have any issues for alot of users.
all the things you disabled are all the things i use every day lol
never the less, good post, im going to use a couple apps you mentioned.
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The first block of disabled items (in bold) from CALENDAR to WORLD CLOCK are disabled start-ups but the apps works as usual. It just frees resources not required on boot till you actually start the application when you want.
The second block from Bluetooth Services to Voice Search are all disabled as I use none of those. Items disabled can be restarted again at any time upon activating them follwing a reboot, while items deleted (like Samsung Apps and STK) are gone forever.
Ive never flashed a ModaCo Kernel and got lots of feedback regarding probelms with 1.4OC. Do you have any issues at all or none? We are using different ROMs... What Quadrant do you get currently?
Cheers
Thank you for your post.
You have solved many of my questions. Also I am User of HD2 and had the same impressions, but now with Android Nand everything was great, also started to love it.
As for GTAB'll make those adjustments you suggested, some will not disable because I use Bluetooth as an example.
Any news please keep posting.
Success!
VeEuzUKY said:
The first block of disabled items (in bold) from CALENDAR to WORLD CLOCK are disabled start-ups but the apps works as usual. It just frees resources not required on boot till you actually start the application when you want.
The second block from Bluetooth Services to Voice Search are all disabled as I use none of those. Items disabled can be restarted again at any time upon activating them follwing a reboot, while items deleted (like Samsung Apps and STK) are gone forever.
Ive never flashed a ModaCo Kernel and got lots of feedback regarding probelms with 1.4OC. Do you have any issues at all or none? We are using different ROMs... What Quadrant do you get currently?
Cheers
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So far the oc is good, things load a little faster, especially nfs shift. Last run of quadrant was 2300-2400.
Ill try it again later after these optimizations and see how it goes, a member here has gotten 3000.
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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flash modacos kernel and rom, convert to ext4, you'll be amazed.
to OP
In startup auditor i just checked disable all, and am not having any problems, unless you are using task manager to disable
...CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE...
edit: But when i check advanced task killer, it still shows that all the disabled apps are running
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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I agree. The process of flashing the Galaxy is much more dauting than anything on the HD2. I suggest you do the EXT4 file converstion. All you need is follow the step by step I wrote above. It makes a huge difference. As for everything else, I too hold off to do too much flashing. The ROM I use now is great and lighter than stock but your seems to work well so keep it. For me when a ROM is good I just use it. When I bought the HD2 I flashed it 2 times with a custom ROM till i found one that worked for me and kept it for 8 months. But backing up and restoring WinMo is much easier... on Androind its all more complicated if you dont know what you are doing. Disable some start-ups on your unit, convert the file system to EXT4 and make sure you have nothing on your home screen doing a lot of refreshing and your tab will work great
natious said:
flash modacos kernel and rom, convert to ext4, you'll be amazed.
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In startup auditor i just checked disable all, and am not having any problems, unless you are using task manager to disable
...CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE...
edit: But when i check advanced task killer, it still shows that all the disabled apps are running
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Is everything working 100% on that ROM? I do not want any ROMS that are having problems.
I too am not impressed with anything that us out yet...seems like any ROM process is tedious and complicated.
Glad the thread starter modified his tab to his liking, but what's the point of having it if you need to drastically change everything. I have a rooted DInc and not use any of things......didn't really see a performance gain with set CPU.
I'm going to continue waiting for something more reliable and use my tab the way it was meant to be, with all its hardware and widgets.
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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dubie76 said:
Is everything working 100% on that ROM? I do not want any ROMS that are having problems.
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Sure is, I use my tab as a phone replacement so I had to have everything work, you will be waiting eons for a decent update from samsung
Sent from my Galaxy Tab of awsomeness
AlpineM3 said:
I too am not impressed with anything that us out yet...seems like any ROM process is tedious and complicated.
Glad the thread starter modified his tab to his liking, but what's the point of having it if you need to drastically change everything. I have a rooted DInc and not use any of things......didn't really see a performance gain with set CPU.
I'm going to continue waiting for something more reliable and use my tab the way it was meant to be, with all its hardware and widgets.
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How are you not impressed if you haven't tried anything?
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Thank you for your detailed post. While I agree with you that the stock SGT rom and browser suck but where do you think the JMI, JMF, JMx ROMs coming from?
Most ROMs I've seen (except for CM) are based from some sort of Jxx
Please keep the tweak posts going. Good stuff and thanks!
natious said:
How are you not impressed if you haven't tried anything?
Sent from my Galaxy Tab of awsomeness
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Not impressed with all the problems being posted just tring to flash it, and how complex it is to do it. Guess that's what I meant. Flashing the hd2 is a very simple process. Tab is not
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My boy,
Only getting my Galaxy tomorrow but looking through threads on my favorite forum.
And guess the first one I happen into... I will follow avidly.
Hi dubie76,
Try an app called OCLF 2.0 on the Market. It is a Lag fix app for the Samsung Galaxy S which also works on the Tab.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rc.QuickFixLagFixR2
You have to install EXT2 tools and then install one click lag fix, both are done within the app.
I had this on my Tab before flashed to a custom ROM. The tab was much faster and did not have and lag compared to stock, the Quadrant score was around 1900.
Also you can uninstall the modifications in the app and easily reverse back to stock. The only disadvantage is you will loss about 800mb of internal memory (the 2Gb space), so if you don't have much space left, you will need to uninstall some apps and reinstall them once you applied the lag fix.
P.S. thanks to OP for the SystemApp Remover & Startup Auditor suggestion.
Custom ROMs?
Hi everyone!
Consider this:
The locked GTab (in standby) on an original ROM with a connected to it BT headset wakes up after replying a call from BT and can potentially have anything pressed as being in the bag due to its size...
My point is that there is NO fix for this on XDA therefore why should I expect any significant advancements from a custom ROM if such simple things cannot be fixed on Android.
My personal view is that Android is unfortunatelly not as flexible for adjustments as WinMo (i have HD2 as well with a wonderful custom Artemis ROM).
I've tried two Roto ROMs on my GT and they havent provided any noticeable enhancements in performance to my eye (perhaps some rating went up - I dont care about tech stats). I reverted to stock ROM P1000XWJMI that works as fast for a "regular user".
I am sad to resume my experience with hacking the GT as not worth it: you get serious risk of getting the GT bricked (much more complicated than with WinMo), loose the warranty and are open for instability and sudden incompatibilities with crashes.
On the third custom ROM installation attempt I was stuck on a black screen after powering on (stuck on the bootloader!) and couldnt initiate flash for multiple times. I was shocked and very nervous. Thats when the stock ROM saved my ass and I am not willing the risk of playing around any more with non-firmware ROMs for Android GT.
Regarding the alternative screen lockers available - please do not suggest Screen Suite (the best of the worst) and things like No-Lock (to get rid of the original locker) as they all mess up once in a while (tested) with the default ROM settings and the original core locker.
PS
In my view the best thing we can and should do first of all is to COMPLAIN to SAMSUNG Tech Support and Software Developers (I did twice already).
If every one of us from theese GTab forums would do this they would definitely get faster with resolving issues.
mrbuz said:
Hi everyone!
Consider this:
The locked GTab (in standby) on an original ROM with a connected to it BT headset wakes up after replying a call from BT and can potentially have anything pressed as being in the bag due to its size...
My point is that there is NO fix for this on XDA therefore why should I expect any significant advancements from a custom ROM if such simple things cannot be fixed on Android.
My personal view is that Android is unfortunatelly not as flexible for adjustments as WinMo (i have HD2 as well with a wonderful custom Artemis ROM).
I've tried two Roto ROMs on my GT and they havent provided any noticeable enhancements in performance to my eye (perhaps some rating went up - I dont care about tech stats). I reverted to stock ROM P1000XWJMI that works as fast for a "regular user".
I am sad to resume my experience with hacking the GT as not worth it: you get serious risk of getting the GT bricked (much more complicated than with WinMo), loose the warranty and are open for instability and sudden incompatibilities with crashes.
On the third custom ROM installation attempt I was stuck on a black screen after powering on (stuck on the bootloader!) and couldnt initiate flash for multiple times. I was shocked and very nervous. Thats when the stock ROM saved my ass and I am not willing the risk of playing around any more with non-firmware ROMs for Android GT.
Regarding the alternative screen lockers available - please do not suggest Screen Suite (the best of the worst) and things like No-Lock (to get rid of the original locker) as they all mess up once in a while (tested) with the default ROM settings and the original core locker.
PS
In my view the best thing we can and should do first of all is to COMPLAIN to SAMSUNG Tech Support and Software Developers (I did twice already).
If every one of us from theese GTab forums would do this they would definitely get faster with resolving issues.
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So what if the screen goes on in your bag, unless you have a fresh finger floating around in there nothing can press any buttons on the capcitive screen, also my tab I just hit the lock button in a bt call, screen turns off phone stays on
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Im so confused. I have my tab rooted and oclf 2.0. Im scoring 2200 in quadrant and.my dolphin hd browser is SO laggy. Even with flash disabled. Any ideas?
koxville said:
Im so confused. I have my tab rooted and oclf 2.0. Im scoring 2200 in quadrant and.my dolphin hd browser is SO laggy. Even with flash disabled. Any ideas?
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because quadrant doesn't mean **** in the real world, i score 2300 but thats with the 1.4 oc.
Give miren a try, tbh its the best
Hello everybody...XD
I've been trying the "new" port of Cyanogenmod 9 (ICS), from the following topic:
[DEV][WIP] Ice Cream Sandwich Port (AOSP/CM9)
And after some weeks of dayly usage of build 4 with Update 1 i've decided to make a review of it.
The original post has a list of working and not working features, so first of all i'm going to comment and complete the ROM issues:
Bluetooth: It's not possible even to turn it on, so if you really use the bluetooth, forget it.
Wifi AP: The native tool doesn't work at all. The ROM includes the app Wifi-Tether, through this app you are able to turn on the Wifi-AP, other devices can see and connect but that's all, you can't actually use the internet .
Calendar: In the raw ROM it's not possible to syncronize your google calendar account, it can be solved by installing the GAPPS: link GAPPS...Thanks Halco (it also fixes a google+ app issue)
Camera(Photo): You can took photos but you can see them only after they are saved, through the gallery app, i mean the camera app has no live preview of the photo, only a black screen.
Camera(Video): You can't record videos period.
Videos: You can't watch videos, even youtube videos, youtube crashes when it attempts to reproduce the video.
Games: Forget every application which demands high processing .
Issues I've faced during usage:
Sometimes the phone crashes when you remove the power cable;
You cannot natively sync your facebook contacts (I've used this appfacebook contact-Sync.=P);
Sometimes all of a sudden the phone freezes, and you need to reebot it ;
It can take a bit to open the App Draw if you join the Apps and Widget Tabs, if you face this slowness go to Settings->Laucher->App Draw and uncheck Join with Apps;
The Data Usage (a native tool that keeps a track of your data usage) doesn't work;
Those were all the problems i had with this ROM, but all the other amazing Ice Cream Sandwich features are fully operative, so if you just like me don't use those missing tools go ahead it is a legendary SO with dozen of little features that make all the difference, all with an smooth interface...XD
Well this review is my attempt of a useful way to say thank you to the Developers...
Nice review, and yes you can post market links, just not links to warez websites.
Cheers
Sent from my GT-i9003 powered by MIUI
thanks!
perhaps you can try the newest arakmar kernel with openFIMG update and tell us if sth changed
download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12943198/openFIMG_Arakmar_signed.zip
source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539922
Use this link for GApps : http://goo-inside.me/gapps (Ever updated)
j4m said:
thanks!
perhaps you can try the newest arakmar kernel with openFIMG update and tell us if sth changed
download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12943198/openFIMG_Arakmar_signed.zip
source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539922
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i've just installed...soon I post my experience
actually you should use latest openFIMG update with arakmars G3mod kernel. it improves overall performance and data usage feature works with the new kernel.
general assumption: when doing a review you might want to say some positive stuff about the ROM as you only said which features don't work. overall performance is good on ICS though trebuchet launcher consumes a lot of CPU power (but it's version 0.1, so there will be improvements anyway). there's no word on battery life, too, which is quite good for ICS.
[edit:] oops I was to slow
Good review,but to many problems,i will instal it in the future,ICS is amazing,
I like to add some more bugs
vibibs said:
Hello everybody...XD
I've been trying the "new" port of Cyanogenmod 9 (ICS), from the following topic:
[DEV][WIP] Ice Cream Sandwich Port (AOSP/CM9)
And after some weeks of dayly usage of build 4 with Update 1 i've decided to make a review of it.
The original post has a list of working and not working features, so first of all i'm going to comment and complete the ROM issues:
Bluetooth: It's not possible even to turn it on, so if you really use the bluetooth, forget it.
Wifi AP: The native tool doesn't work at all. The ROM includes the app Wifi-Tether, through this app you are able to turn on the Wifi-AP, other devices can see and connect but that's all, you can't actually use the internet .
Calendar: In the raw ROM it's not possible to syncronize your google calendar account, it can be solved by installing the GAPPS: link GAPPS...Thanks Halco (it also fixes a google+ app issue)
Camera(Photo): You can took photos but you can see them only after they are saved, through the gallery app, i mean the camera app has no live preview of the photo, only a black screen.
Camera(Video): You can't record videos period.
Videos: You can't watch videos, even youtube videos, youtube crashes when it attempts to reproduce the video.
Games: Forget every application which demands high processing .
Issues I've faced during usage:
Sometimes the phone crashes when you remove the power cable;
You cannot natively sync your facebook contacts (I've used this appfacebook contact-Sync.=P);
Sometimes all of a sudden the phone freezes, and you need to reebot it ;
It can take a bit to open the App Draw if you join the Apps and Widget Tabs, if you face this slowness go to Settings->Laucher->App Draw and uncheck Join with Apps;
The Data Usage (a native tool that keeps a track of your data usage) doesn't work;
Those were all the problems i had with this ROM, but all the other amazing Ice Cream Sandwich features are fully operative, so if you just like me don't use those missing tools go ahead it is a legendary SO with dozen of little features that make all the difference, all with an smooth interface...XD
Well this review is my attempt of a useful way to say thank you to the Developers...
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I like to add some more bugs,
- During the call when you press any key to interact with IVR the phone call goes to mute.
- Phone became very slow when you using is continuously.
A lot of faults but not much said about the features that are working so just thought I would go a bit further....
Widgets in appdraw
You can now view all widgets in the app draw without having to add them to the home screen, this is a staple feature of ICS and has been ported beautifully, it gives you a grid size in the draw too so you can see sizes.
Folders on homescreens
You can pile apps ontop of eachother to create folders so you can have all your messaging apps (whatsapp,fbmessenger, smmsmms) in one place. just click on it and it will open the folder to make your choice. it makes finding things quickly very simple, especially if you have alot of apps.
Apex Launcher
Apex launcher is a replacement launcher for trebuchet and helps run the new OS butter smooth. it also a little more customisable and user friendly and runs the best on this port. if you want fast and smooth, download it and push it to system/app for all functions
notification bar
the notification pull down bar on the port is alot more customisable than anything on GB or earlier OS's. add a weather option to it for a really sexy look.
Once installing the new gapps, they work absolutely fine, still a few syncing issues but all in all a decent attempt, the calendar especially is cleaner and more user friendly than previous builds.
extended power menu is working brilliantly, can go straight into download or recovery mode which i believe is now touch screen if i remember correctly... (please correct if wrong) and connecting to wifi is fast and reliable. There are many more things that really do show a huge amount of promise in this build, it is clear that given a little time and help with resources, these dev's are going to pull off what i personally didnt think possible. ICS ON G3!! D
Did some testing
I tested a view tastes of CM9. Was quite happy with the latest builds, however discovered a small issue that makes it a bit difficult to operate. I will describe it, hope this helps the developers.
First: Wifi, data is all working quite well, calender worked as I needed.
After flashing the rom CM9 systems work fine for about a day, after that when the phone goes into sleep you can wake it up, however the digitizer does not show any sign of life.
The screen however is fully functional, buttons operate.
After some random button pressing the digitizer migt start working, sometimes a reboot is the only solution.
However after a reboot sometimes it operates for half an hour and shows up problems with the digitizer again. I had this on both the G3 phones I owe (use one for testing).
Why it operates the first day after flashing without a problem is a little weird.
For the moment I'm back on Dutchmod 5.3
I lost the market (play store) after installing the G-apps given in the first post.
Looks like the G-apps from the above link is de-Odex.
Can any one give me a link to the odex G-apps?
Anandababu153 said:
I lost the market (play store) after installing the G-apps given in the first post.
Looks like the G-apps from the above link is de-Odex.
Can any one give me a link to the odex G-apps?
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I don't think gapps has odex and deodex apps
It is the ROM which is odexed and deodexed.
It works for icsforg3 build 4 so you can install it on any odex ROM
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I've been using Galaxy 3 (I5801) for 2+ years now,
Always wanted to upgarde the phone and get something cool, but due to personal problems never had 20K spare to buy a decent phone so was almost forced to keep using it month after month.
Thanks to kyrillos for giving us Rom updates so we kept living with this device till date.
Recently my phone started being very very sluggish, Games were out of question, it used to make me bang my head even with basic apps like Maps and browser used to make it beg for a reboot.
I usually restarted phone but this was getting on my nerves and reboot sometimes needed another reboot as not all apps show up, whatever.
I have around 100 apps Installed, not used everyday but love having them for some occasional use.
Today I was in urgent need to use a bank app. and phone gave me more frustration so I started playing around to see what can help me make it usable for another couple of months.
Earlier I've been using "Android System Info" to view the available ram and processes and kill the ones not required to run, Don't know why apps like youtube, cyanogen stats, titanium backup tries to run when their was no Active or scheduled usage, this kept sucking RAM off this poor phone which started showing lags of death.
Anyway to cut this post short, I found a App called " All-In-One Toolbox (14 Tools) - System Optimizer" which offers 17 tools in one decent price i.e. Free.
installed it and tried quick boost, phone was on 14% available RAM and it jumped to 51% and phone was smooth like new, then came the other included tools in "AIO Toolbox"
Used "Cache Cleaner" and it gave some extra MB's to phone memory.
Then used History cleaner to get more junk deleted
Then ran SDCard Cleaner and cleaned old "LOGS" and some more junk.
Then used "Boot Speedup" and unchecked the junk which ran along every reboot as they were not required.
Unchecked in user : Skype, Task Reminder, Titanium Backup, youtube, officesuite, etc etc so they don't load at boot.
unchecked in system: email (I am sure not required when you use "gmail" app already), SIM Toolkit.
Once went through all things to double check, did the reboot, and guess what, Didn't had a single "LAG " since last 12 hours,
used it like I used my phone during weekdays and didn't needed to curse or abuse it, not even a reboot.
Ah my head feels relaxed as i didn't banged this phone on my head since morning.
Please don't take this as I am promoting any app, Fact is I am not working for anyone, not even in real life. :crying:
This is just my personal experience with this phone and wonders this excellent toolbox did to it.
Thanks for sharing this also don't worry there's always going to be tough times in life. It will get better soon; all the best.
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Thanks dilzo.
Update: Started using ZDbox (All-In-One toolbox). to speed up and its working more better as settings had an option to Auto-boost once Ram is below 50MB.
this one includes a easier cache cleaner and many new features like DND mode and Also the battery stats including info during charge is more precise and detailed.
I use an app called "App Quarantine" and freeze apps that use ram in the background. Example, Google Maps. I use maps once a week, but it uses ram all the time. So I just unfreeze it when I need it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ramdroid.appquarantine&hl=en
Tip
As youre already on kyrillos rom just flash fugumod ultra 1366mhz pre. And after boot you will get a Lagfree device.!
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As youre already on kyrillos rom just flash fugumod ultra 1366mhz pre. And after boot you will get a Lagfree device.!
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Kyrillos yet to update his Rom, I don't want to run this phone on 1366Mhz for sure.
I am using marcellusbe's ROM CyanogenMod 7.2 (Alpha9 )
and phone is snappier and happier.
I know this has nothing to do with the topic but i wanted share. I just found out about an app called sidebar lite (i saw it in qbking77' s video ). Its a mutitasking app like the one in the note 2 .
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As youre already on kyrillos rom just flash fugumod ultra 1366mhz pre. And after boot you will get a Lagfree device.!
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Hello
For sure...
I use Kyrillos Rom with this 1366Mhz fugumod kernel, and it's working very fine ! No lag, no bug...
Now I only use my I5800 when I do running with the Runtastic app to track my course with G, just wifi.PS (to keep my new Acer V370 free from sweating), along with FM radio or music player and to have a phone with me in case of emergency (as, even with no sim card inside, it's possible to call emergency numbers).
Here are my Quadrant stats :
Total : 829 (around 520 with stock rom )
CPU : 1214
Mem : 474
I/O : 1469
2D : 758
3D : 230
Until now, no bug encountered...
HELP
Thanks a lot BOSS >>>>>>>>>
I was searching For this only ....................
My phone always Irritates me BY NO INTERNAL SPACE ..........
Can anyone Help ............
I've used Link2SD ........:crying:... But it's Not Working
hi
i have here an I-9505 from Germany xxuhoa7. It worked just fine with Jellybean also with Lollipop a year or two ago. I had the exact same few apps installed as now, yet the phone gets slower and slower with every app update. Even after factory reset (and restore from samsung and google account). Wifi hotspots will not be saved etc. So the phone turned basically to garbage.
Installed apps are pretty much these: Facebook (DUH), Messenger, Instagram, Twitter, IMDB, Wiki, Inbox, Firefox, Chrome, Ebay, Dropbox, Moments, OneDrive, Paypal, and some basic tiny apps like notepad, ssh, Tcmd, Yaste remote. As you can see not those typical resource eaters like games or whatever needs to sync in every 3 seconds. But this doesn't matter since this was the same setup 3 years ago and the phone was faster than the speed of light.
I'm wondering a downgrade, or even simply reinstalling Lollipop with odin would do any good? I believe in full wipe and reinstall so that's what I'm looking for.
"wipe davic cache" and such built in options does not erase everything like the Greeks did with Troy.
Or does this slowing down thing mean that the internal memory is going bad? The phone gets unusually hot as well sometimes. Like I said even after factory reset so that's not really an option.
I have two batteries one is trash still using it for some reason... The phone reboots at any battery percentage total randomly.
I have basic knowledge (some would call it advanced. I wouldn't.)
There is Odin's Options tab, where I would tick Re-Partiton and Nand Erase All, because it sounds like it would burn everything to the ground.
As for reinstalling Lollipop the following files were downloaded for it:
I9505XXUHOA7_OXAHOA7\AP_I9505XXUHOA7_CL3996895_QB3867680_REV06_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5
I9505XXUHOA7_OXAHOA7\BL_I9505XXUHOA7_CL3996895_QB3867680_REV06_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5
I9505XXUHOA7_OXAHOA7\CP_I9505XXUHOA7_CL3996895_QB3867680_REV06_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5
I9505XXUHOA7_OXAHOA7\CSC_OXA_I9505OXAHOA7_CL3996895_QB3867680_REV06_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5
I9505XXUHOA7_OXAHOA7\JFLTE_EUR_OPEN.pit
Should I just erase all with the options above and put all these files into their relevant places in Odin and do a re-firmware? (yaay a new word)
The Pit tab warns me that it's only for engeneers, and that scares me Ok. Not really.
With one word: can reinstall of the whole system help me with the slow/overheating issue or is it the hardware maybe the trash backed up to and restored from the gmail/samsung account?
Maybe it's just the thing that this device is simply old and one should purchase a new one bc that's the way of life now?
Thanks!
Not your typical resources eaters? Only the Facebook apps use about 400MB RAM together.
Facebook is pretty resource intensive in my opinion.
Anyway. Apps keep getting updated and use more and more resources, your hardware stays the same. It has a harder time coping with the new requirements.
When I first got my S4, I used to underclock the processor to 1.2GHz and the phone still ran very fast. In 2017 doing the same doing makes it slow as hell.
I don't really think there's anything you can do. You could perhaps try custom ROMs.
Facebook and Messenger are both resource hogs. Uninstall them and learn to use the browser. Speaking of which, unless you have a good reason for having both Firefox and Chrome on your device, remove Firefox as it runs very poorly on Android. The other main source of resource drain is Android itself, or more accurately, Touchwiz. If you want a device that can keep up with all the changes in apps, you want to jettison Touchwiz posthaste and move to an AOSP-based ROM.
Thanks for your answers, it is maybe a bit too much to ask but could you name a good working custom rom for the device in question? Maybe with a link to the instruction or direct to the download page?
cheers!
Either JDC Team's Optimized LineageOS or AOSP ROMs should be light enough for your needs. AOSP is the lightest, but isn't as feature rich as LineageOS.
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Either JDC Team's Optimized LineageOS or AOSP ROMs should be light enough for your needs. AOSP is the lightest, but isn't as feature rich as LineageOS.
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thanks for the suggestions, i try lineage now but it has got no samsung apps and account at all (obviously) which would be fine. but as soon as i try to install i.e. samsung health and launch it the phone says "can't set up app no sim card has been inserted insert a sim card and try again"
and i'm sitting here like "wut!?" i mean what has got a sim card to do with an application on a smartphone?
(no, i don't have a sim card)
tbh i have reinstalled the lollipop completely with odin and the files above and it was.. well faster. so i'll give it a try allthough android 7.1.2 seems pretty cool and fast with only the nano gapps installed.
Neither ROM I recommended has Samsung apps. Samsung apps require Touchwiz, which slows down the phone. There are far better alternatives to the Samsung apps on the Play Store in any event.
I feel like I've tried everything to make this thing work, but every time I use it it locks up almost immediately (as in screen freezes, takes 15 seconds to register touches, sometimes not at all, won't load apps). Right now I'm on SHIELD software version 4.1 (Android 6.0.1) and I just want to use it as a glorified web browser, but it can't even do that. I've tried factory resets, reflashes, tips on the NVIDIA forums... is there any way to identify what slows my tablet down and prevent it? Even on a fresh install its laggy/borderline unusable.
Yep it's a real P.O.S.
It never really was any good.
I fired it up a while ago, fresh factory reset, and still couldn't even hardly browse the internet.
I'm on los14 and it's fine for me. I use the smallest gapps and I also remove the apps I don't use in /system...everything I use works and I don't have any problems with it.
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I feel like I've tried everything to make this thing work, but every time I use it it locks up almost immediately (as in screen freezes, takes 15 seconds to register touches, sometimes not at all, won't load apps). Right now I'm on SHIELD software version 4.1 (Android 6.0.1) and I just want to use it as a glorified web browser, but it can't even do that. I've tried factory resets, reflashes, tips on the NVIDIA forums... is there any way to identify what slows my tablet down and prevent it? Even on a fresh install its laggy/borderline unusable.
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I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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Hey man can you pm me the link. I have Lineage 14.1 but the battery just drains too fast.
bigroc2223 said:
I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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Hey man, do you think you could PM me the link to this ROM you speak of? I can't seem to find one that's good enough for my needs.
Thanks in advance.
bigroc2223 said:
I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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Do you mind sending me the link as well
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I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. AOSP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker!
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Thank for your review! Just to be sure: are you talking about AOSPExtended? The one in the thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sh...-aosp-extended-aex-5-8-nvidia-shield-t4053745 ?
Hi. I am selling my Shield Tablet + Controller.
Would come inkl. the recalled from nvidia which i resoldered the Battery. I didnt write that in ebay because i didnt want to get banned because of the recall.
just ebay : Nvidia-Shield-Tablet-and-Controller-2016
I where thinking on selling mine as well... But honestly, will it worth selling?
How much do you ask for the tablet and controller combo?
Well, after disabling doze and the srgb mode, and making sure all programs were updated and that I had plenty of free space (>1GB of ram with nothing open and >1.5GB of disk)... I must say I'm pretty satisfied again with the device.
I don't even see anymore that stupid constant >50% IOW activity inside top.
(if you are going to game I guess tinerking with background process limits could also help)
I use it as a remove monitoring panel and home automation tablet. Outside of that, unfortunatly, was suppose to be a big tablet for gaming, but it'S way too lagy for that
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I use it as a remove monitoring panel and home automation tablet. Outside of that, unfortunatly, was suppose to be a big tablet for gaming, but it'S way too lagy for that
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I've spent lot's of time with both the tablets and Shield portable and I can say that in 2021 , these are still "daily drivers " for me . The trick with these devices is understanding that a lot of the Google apps and permissions have gotten very resource heavy over the years. That is why the K1 had such horrible battery life , there was so much stuff running in addition to providing a top level gaming experience at the time . These devices are "very " capable of gaming and still very much worth it if they are set up correctly. If you read through the older XDA threads you will find out a lot of stuff people people did over the years to speed up / optimize these devices . Both my tablet and portable are on stock roms and just by disabling all the unnecessary notifications , removing resource heavy apps (ADB) and some other simple tweaks , these run exactly the way the developer reviewers said they performed years ago . I actually prefer to play some games on my tablet / portable ( especially game stream ) because the sound and over all gaming experience still holds up incredibly well.
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I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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Thanks a lot for your suggestion! I installed in my original nVidia Shield Tablet (no K1) and works like a charm! It's like having a new tablet again!
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Thank for your review! Just to be sure: are you talking about AOSPExtended? The one in the thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sh...-aosp-extended-aex-5-8-nvidia-shield-t4053745 ?
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Also thank you for the link so I could easily find what @bigroc2223 was actually talking about!
Just in case there's somebody else who wants to try to install AOSP Extended 5.8, just a warning:
Do NOT download the latest version of OpenGApps (20220215 as of today). For some reason, installing this version makes the tablet unusable, since right after booting it bombards you with an infinite stream of error messages about Google Services having being stopped, and no matter how many times you try to close those error windows, lots and lots more re-appear, blocking the user interface so you can't do anything at all.
So I went back to an older version (20220110) and this one doesn't have that problem. I did get an error message about nVidia Games not working, but that's normal, and it's just a single error message, not millions, as with the other newer version of OpenGApps, which made the tablet completely unusable. After updating nVidia Games from the Play Store, the error is gone, as @bigroc2223 explained. And even after updating all apps to their latest versions, the tablet still works fine, so I'm not sure what happened with the 20220215 version of OpenGApps.
Here's the link to the version of OpenGApps that worked for me:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/opengapps/files/arm/20220110/open_gapps-arm-8.1-nano-20220110.zip/download
Just in case you need some instructions on how to install the ROM (I certainly needed them), you can follow these, only installing the AOSP Extended (AEX) 5.8 ROM instead of the LineageOS ROM:
Nvidia Shield Tablet (shieldtablet) - LineageOS ROMs
LineageOs ROM Nvidia Shield Tablet (shieldtablet) Unofficial roms Download last UNOFFICIAL build (2019-11-13)LineageOS 15.1 – [ Android 8.1 (Oreo) ] Previous version (UNOFFICIAL) (2019-11-15) LineageOS 14.1 – [ Android 7.1.2 (Nougat) ] Table of contents Install LineageOS on shieldtablet Basic...
lineageosroms.com
BTW, I used the version of the AEX 5.8 ROM with Zram (additional cache), and it works fine. You also have to install the DTB file after installing the ROM and the GApps, but the DTB file is installed from the "fastboot" state instead of from the "sideload" feature of TWRP.
Thank you for everybody helping in this thread!