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So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
I sold my gs6 and got the oneplus 2, no regrets so far. I mainly did it because I don't like touchwiz. I like using close to stock Android software. Battery life on gs6 sucks as well, much better on op2. Build quality is definitely better on the gs6 but aside from that this phone tops it in every way for me.
dzaster89 said:
I sold my gs6 and got the oneplus 2, no regrets so far. I mainly did it because I don't like touchwiz. I like using close to stock Android software. Battery life on gs6 sucks as well, much better on op2. Build quality is definitely better on the gs6 but aside from that this phone tops it in every way for me.
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yeah, even with the COI9 build of the S6, Touchwiz is shiity due to some stutterting with it's UI. If only there would be a CM build for this lol
I'm really in the verge of getting the oneplus 2, but there is also a part of me choosing between the Nexus 6P. what do you think, disregarding the price?
Go for 6P if you don't need dual sim.
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shigi1231 said:
So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
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After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
dc82 said:
After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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its very common for oxygenos to be laggy, coming from nexus 5 6.0 update, oxygenos with all this hardware is still no match in smoothness, they have ways to go. of course just waiting for the cyanogenmod to become official then you can kiss the lagg bye bye. tested the beta, and it is fantastic. hydrogenos is currently faster and almost lag free compared to oxygen.
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its very common for oxygenos to be laggy, coming from nexus 5 6.0 update, oxygenos with all this hardware is still no match in smoothness, they have ways to go. of course just waiting for the cyanogenmod to become official then you can kiss the lagg bye bye. tested the beta, and it is fantastic. hydrogenos is currently faster and almost lag free compared to oxygen.
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I have the latest OOS installed + AK kernel v15, and I see no lag whatsoever. Browsing through the UI is as smooth as it can get + battery life is amazing.
I did just that ,today is my first day with the oneplus 2 .I cant get over how heavy it is !.battery life seems a little better but I am not getting 4G which might be contributing to the battery life .I have to say that the S6 feels far more polished than the OPT over all ,the OPT reminds me of the days when I used custom ROMs where you encounter a few glitches here and there (not connecting to my wifi for instance ).
shigi1231 said:
So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
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The GS6 has one of the best camera's available on any phone today, but the OP2 isn't that far behind (with some software improvements it could potentially equal it). If you hate Touchwiz as much as I do, then trade it in. If you don't, then don't.. Because the GS6 is truly a fantastic device if you like a phone that just works. It's basically the iPhone of Android devices.
zaki67 said:
I did just that ,today is my first day with the oneplus 2 .I cant get over how heavy it is !.battery life seems a little better but I am not getting 4G which might be contributing to the battery life .I have to say that the S6 feels far more polished than the OPT over all ,the OPT reminds me of the days when I used custom ROMs where you encounter a few glitches here and there (not connecting to my wifi for instance ).
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If you can live without a fingerprint scanner for a while you should give Exodus a try. I cannot recommend it highly enough!
shigi1231 said:
quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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It's actually not unusual at all. Use literally any other current flagship phone and then go back to the OP2. Stock vs stock it's noticeable. I'd wait till the S6 gets marshmallow to make your determination if you can. Hardware-wise I think the S6 is better and that being the case, you can update software but you can't change hardware.
I hear there was a new update for the camera of the OP2 fixing the auto laser focus with filming videos
How's the display of the device? Is the 1080P LCD display not that farfetched from SUPERAMOLED?
Considering the SoCs of both Nexus 6P and OP2, do you think that the 64gb (with 4 gb of ram) would provide more RAW power than the nexus 6p?
I went from GS6 to a oneplus 2. I originally kept the GS6 and sold the Oneplus 2, but later changed my mind and bought a new Oneplus 2. (I don't understand all the whining about not being able to buy one!)
Here is why:
My main complaint regarding the OP2 is its size. The S6 is sleek and lightweight. When it comes to having one of the two in a pocket...I much prefer the size of the S6. But, phones aren't made for sitting in our pockets, are they? Also, I find the vibrating motor on the OP2 is lower quality than the one on the S6 and so I leave it turned off because it annoys me. The vibrating seems to slow down the use of the keyboard to me as well. I also don't find the quality of accessories like cases to be as good for OP2 as the GS6.
On the other hand:
I don't mind the lack of NFC because I don't keep a phone unrooted long enough to use Android Pay anyway. I think Oneplus realized most of it's users would be in that boat. I also don't mind the lack of quickcharging because I just plug in my phone everynight and I have a 15,000mAh battery charger that bought just in case, but I have used exactly 0 times. Despite all of the horror stories on these forums, I have stock Oxygen and stock kernel and get to the end of every day with about 75% charge left.
I think the TW on GS6 is fine, but I honestly prefer the stock experience. I found the camera on the GS6 to be better, but I would ALWAYS choose my DSLR for any serious video or photo of either and I don't find it $150 dollars better (The actual price difference if you watch for deals on websites such as Slickdeals).
I hear all sorts of whining about the quality of the hardware being less on Oneplus 2, but in the past half year I have owned 3 GS6 devices and two of them had to be sent in for RMA warranty. I have owned 2 Oneplus 2's and they were both without any faults. Also, if you think that Oneplus has software issues, you should see all the whining over on the S6 forums about the software problems. Samsung is arguably the most advanced android maker out there and still regularly have software issues! Samsung does not support the Dev community and takes every action to prevent any software modification (Ever heard of a Knox?). Oneplus has limitations on what they are able to provide the community with regard to drivers, but does what it can.
I used the fancy features like heartbeat sensor and pulse ox a total of once just out of curiosity...never found a need to use it ever again. The same goes for the remote control. It is a neat feature, but I would prefer to use my regular remote.
I also can't see the point in using Android Pay because it seems like half of all retailers out there still make me pull out my wallet to show my ID. Basically, at this point the Android Pay is about the same level of novelty as a 4k screen on a 40 inch TV and I'm fine without it. I can't drive anywhere without my wallet because it has my license, so I might as well carry a card in there too. If I go to a restaurant, I'm not going to hand a $400 to $650 device to the waiter to pay for my food.... With all of it's limitations, Android Pay just isn't THAT much of a convenience. So, I will choose to root my phone and do without out it whether the device has NFC or not.
The GS6 Super OLED is beautiful, but comes with drawbacks. One main problem is that they suffer from burn-in. I had one device that I couldn't stand using because it developed a severe burn in from having a background similar to the "never settle" on the OP2 that left words visible on the back of the device. The burn in occurred after a couple days of heavy use of the device and was permanent. Samsung will not fix that problem on warranty...they see it as your fault. IPS does not have this problem. With regard to battery use I don't think that the benefits of OLED outweigh the significantly larger battery on the OP2. Also, I should mention that I have a smartwatch so I could care less about features like having alerts popup on the display, but I doubt that this really consumes a lot more energy on the IPS displays than the OLED displays. I believe that more energy is probably being consumed in the wakelock anyway from those sort of events and really don't want my screen turning on to tell me about new alerts either way. I saw a fancy graph somewhere about how OLED really doesn't use that much less energy compared to IPS with LED anyway, and can actually use more in certain cicumstances.
I find that the larger real estate of the 5.5 inch screen on the OP2 is a better size compared to the S6 in my experience and don't appreciate any decrease in quality in the 1080p vs 2k.
The S6 and Oneplus 2 are both pretty lag-free experiences. I do like having the 64gb of space compared to the 32 on my S6, but the OP2 seems to run with about 2GB or RAM free, so the 4GB or RAM is probably overkill. The S6 on the otherhand is bloated beyond belief and uses every bit of the 3GB of RAM. Anyone who has spent time on the S6 part of xda has seen tons of complaints about this. Meanwhile, OOS isn't perfect, but it does remain a bloat free experience.
Importantly, the dev support for OP2 is much better and we really owe these guys like Grarak and AK for all their hard work. Dev support for the S6 is very limited. CM will probably never be available for the S6 because it uses the Exynos.
I never had a problem with using the physical home button on the S6, but after using the home button on the OP2, I found that I was annoyed everytime I had to actually press down on that physical button on the S6. I don't know why, but it really bugged me.
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After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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I was pretty much going to say the same thing said here......So I'll just +1 this.
Ok, I have to say a little more...
I like my OP2, the build is nice and it's a premium looking phone.....But I've only had it a month and have had several small, annoying bugs pop up over that time and a couple that required a full factory reset. I had my S6 for a couple months and had no real issues. I almost feel the OP2's software wasn't ready for release, but they went ahead and released it anyways. As bloated as the S6 is, it's a smooth and snappy user experience IMO. TouchWiz has really slimmed down from the S3 days too and I actually liked it as well as my go-to launcher, Nova. I hate saying that, because I generally don't like big corporate companies like Samsung, but they don't have one of the most popular phones in the world for no reason. But for the money, I was willing to take a chance on the OP2 as I'm sure development will be better in a few months and even the stock ROM will become more stable over time.
To what I see from everyone I think I can deduce like this:
Oneplus 2: DEV FRIENDLY (i cant emphasis enough how this is very important to me lol), can go toe to toe with the Exynos chip, better stock experience (Cyanogenmod is coming quickly), due to camera software updates OP2 camera is decent, build quality is premium, battery is good, better RAM
Galaxy S6: build is super premium but can be so greasy due to the glass back and front, Exynos chip is good, TouchWiz is decent, NFC, wireless charging, QHD but can be a set back due to battery
The S6 has been months out now, and it would seem there are no Developers working or at least having good progress on a AOSP rom.
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I was pretty much going to say the same thing said here......So I'll just +1 this.
Ok, I have to say a little more...
I like my OP2, the build is nice and it's a premium looking phone.....But I've only had it a month and have had several small, annoying bugs pop up over that time and a couple that required a full factory reset. I had my S6 for a couple months and had no real issues. I almost feel the OP2's software wasn't ready for release, but they went ahead and released it anyways. As bloated as the S6 is, it's a smooth and snappy user experience IMO. TouchWiz has really slimmed down from the S3 days too and I actually liked it as well as my go-to launcher, Nova. I hate saying that, because I generally don't like big corporate companies like Samsung, but they don't have one of the most popular phones in the world for no reason. But for the money, I was willing to take a chance on the OP2 as I'm sure development will be better in a few months and even the stock ROM will become more stable over time.
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OK, I like the OP2 a lot.....for the money. It's a great phone for the money. You can't spend this "little" and expect a lot more. The screen is NOWHERE near as good as any recent AMOLED. To anyone claiming burn in is still an issue, I say that's overblown. I've had more phones than I care to even admit to and I've had burn in only once. That was with the N6 and that was an older Samsung panel. The op2 screen looks nice enough with no other phone as a reference. Put it next to any recent samsung and you see how washed out the OP2 panel looks. That being said. This phone is NOT a flagship killer, its simply a really, REALLY good phone...for the money. If this phone made by Samsung ppl would be up in arms about its shortcomings. But bc its made by an obscure Chinese company that makes ridiculous marketing claims we all buy in to a degree. Again, I love the phone. It's great..for the money. Don't expect perfection and you'll be happy with it.
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OK, I like the OP2 a lot.....for the money. It's a great phone for the money. You can't spend this "little" and expect a lot more. The screen is NOWHERE near as good as any recent AMOLED. To anyone claiming burn in is still an issue, I say that's overblown. I've had more phones than I care to even admit to and I've had burn in only once. That was with the N6 and that was an older Samsung panel. The op2 screen looks nice enough with no other phone as a reference. Put it next to any recent samsung and you see how washed out the OP2 panel looks. That being said. This phone is NOT a flagship killer, its simply a really, REALLY good phone...for the money. If this phone made by Samsung ppl would be up in arms about its shortcomings. But bc its made by an obscure Chinese company that makes ridiculous marketing claims we all buy in to a degree. Again, I love the phone. It's great..for the money. Don't expect perfection and you'll be happy with it.
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I just RMA'ed a S6 with burn in and got my replacement today which I plan to sell. So, it still happens and on my device it didn't take much. I hadn't had any problems with any of my prior AMOLED screens I would have agreed with you, but I used a background pic from the S6 promotional material that said "Six Appeal". After removing the background I could see the words any time I had a grey or white background... such as anytime I used XDA. Fortunately for me, the phone had a camera defect and I was able to RMA it. Regarding the burn in, they basically just said "too bad". Considering I just finished dealing with the issue, this is probably why I am so sensitive to it being a concern.
BTW, as mentioned, I have both phones and think the S6 screen is only minimally better after adjusting screen settings on the OP2. I have both of them in front of me right now. I will say, the default screen settings for the OP2 don't help the first impression and I originally thought it was very washed out comparatively.
As a point of mention just for anyone out there new to the technologies: burn in will always be a potential design risk with AMOLED technology. As any pixel is used it will wear ever so slightly. The rate of wear may improve in future generations, but the wear itself is an inherent part of the technology. The good news is that if you are careful, you can probably avoid the problem for the most part. Static parts of the screen with high contrast like the top bar are at risk because they often have the same pixels being used.
Also, "Super AMOLED" isn't actually any better than an AMOLED from the standpoint of screen quality. It is just Samsung's made up term for when they fuse a digitizer into the display vs having it as a separate layer. The underlying display is still the same.
Silvers91 said:
I have the latest OOS installed + AK kernel v15, and I see no lag whatsoever. Browsing through the UI is as smooth as it can get + battery life is amazing.
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I have the same installed, a stock nexus 5 with the official 6.0 firmware is much smoother. you'd say the UI is lag free, for the most part that's true, but once you open an app it takes a bit of time for the app to actually load, where in android 6.0 of nexus 5 you don't see that. none the less, the phone is fantastic, just needs some more working on before they can actually call it a well built stock firmware.
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I have the same installed, a stock nexus 5 with the official 6.0 firmware is much smoother. you'd say the UI is lag free, for the most part that's true, but once you open an app it takes a bit of time for the app to actually load, where in android 6.0 of nexus 5 you don't see that. none the less, the phone is fantastic, just needs some more working on before they can actually call it a well built stock firmware.
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I agree with you, I had a Nexus 5 but I sold it right before Marshmallow was released for it, but even with 5.1.1 it was smooth as hell, I'm yet to see a phone that is as smooth as the Nexus 5.. OnePlus 2 just needs some time to get the right software, it was only released 3 months ago anyway.
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I agree with you, I had a Nexus 5 but I sold it right before Marshmallow was released for it, but even with 5.1.1 it was smooth as hell, I'm yet to see a phone that is as smooth as the Nexus 5.. OnePlus 2 just needs some time to get the right software, it was only released 3 months ago anyway.
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agreed, OP needs to completely debloat their software, make it completely stock, optimize it, then add extra features to it. a rom that's 1.1GB in size tells you quite a lot vs the cyanogenmod .4GB. They need to take it from ground up to even match cyanogenmod in terms of performance and UI experience. I mean look at nexus 5, no matter what rom you put in it, the stock one was always better, smoother UI, better performance, at one point installing a custom kernel made the phone unstable and killed battery life faster.
right off the bat, OP2 users started installing AK kernel to eliminate lagg issues and battery life issues. What does that tell us? the underlying software is not very good, the kernel probably does lots of wasteful debugging and 2 cores almost always offline. The idea is there, but the implementation of the idea seems like to have "workarounds" rather than actual redesigning of the code to coop with the ROM's needs. I mean no one even bothered to create a custom ROM based on the official ROM. The first things that came out for the nexus was the custom ROM based on the official sources.
I'm sorry OP2, but nexus 5 was the real flagship killer, I still have the phone (though had to replace the power button). battery life was good for me, lasted 17-20 hours. Hopefully OP can start to understand that user requests and bug reports should not be worked with using the "workaround" style, but instead to fix issues from the foundation of the ROM, optimize it then release it. Maybe they can release a lightweight version, or a stock AOSP version with everything functional. CM will probably beat them to it at this rate.
I have the same dilemna with the case of the oneplus two. The Galaxy S6 for me would have been perfect if it weren't for the damn UI stuttering of TouchWiz.
With regards to the specifications and software experience, do you think I should sell my galaxy s6 and get me a Nexus 6P or Oneplus 2? Opinions would be greatly appreciated. 2 things are holding me back, the beastly Exynos chip and the Camera.
I'd sell it for the 6p. The picture quality from the camera should be very close to the S6 and even though the exynos is the better chipset, touchwizz is still stuttery (as u claim) whereas the S810 Nexus 6P has been said to be extremely smooth/fluid.
Hi there,
When S6 released, I watched Galaxy Unpack live and I was very very excited. I was going to buy S6 but one thing hold me off. THE CLOSED SOURCE EXYNOS. And of course, locked bootloader.
According to DxOMark, Camera differences between S6 and Nexus 6P are small.
Camera Review For Nexus 6P
Camera Review For Galaxy S6
According to this, you should never miss your shots with S6 while you hold 6P's camera.
And what's the purpose of "beastly Exynos" when it lags in UI?
Comparing 6P to S6 and One Plus Two, for me 6P is winner for following reasons:
1. More durable body.
2. Stereo front facing speakers.
3. More active aftermarket development. Means a lot of cool stuff for 6P(Roms, kernels, tweaks, etc)
4. Seems like 6P has better battery than One Plus Two and S6 (Wait for GSM Arena's battery test. Those are the most accurate battery tests.)
5. Better screen that One Plus Two, however it comes toe to toe with S6. The only ones who complain about screen of 6P are PhoneArena guys, seems like they forgot to turn off adaptive brightness or turn on sRGB mode.
6. More stable and lagfree OS.
7. Fastest updates.
8. Using Android the way it meant to be used.
I would definitely recommend the 6p. I own an S6, and I can fully relate to the Touchwiz issues. All Nexus devices are made to give the user the smoothest, fastest experience possible. Uninhibited by 3rd party layers and skins that can slow everything down. The hardware and software are both high-end enough on the 6p to meet or beat the S6, so you wouldn't be sacrificing anything by switching. Also, you can't beat being first in line to receive security and other updates!
Read an article testing cell reception s6 and 2 other phones, no 6p but another huwei phone - s6 was horrible.
A couple have mentioned reception on the 6p is fantastic - which is supposedly a strong point for huwei (or however you spell it!) devices.
That would be enough for me to sell.
I've done just this, sold my S6 to buy a nexus. The goods on the S6 were very good - design, size, screen, camera. The bads similarly were very bad - software, ram management, battery.
Bloated horrible mess. So I have got the 6p now to try out. The screen is not as good as the s6, the camera is close but not equal to the s6 but the software experience on the 6p wipes the floor with the s6. I'd not hesitate to sell the S6 to get either of the new nexus phones.
This is my plan to sell S6 as soon as I go the 6P. S6 has been great so far, it took amazing photos. However, I really can't stand for the battery life. I basically has to put on battery save mode everyday. The touch wiz has been improved a lot, but it somehow still managed to slow the phone down after a while.
I owned the S6 and sold it for a Nexus 6P, im not going to ***** about the S6 because it was a great little phone. I just prefer a bigger handset and a better modding scene
Sold my s6 in July due to the crappy battery life, small screen and touch wiz.. It was a nice phone though
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In process of selling my S6. The battery life and junk AT&T and Samsung have on it is abysmal and battery is even worse. I shouldn't have to spend hours disabling and turning off features to get the phone battery to last more than a few hours. I actually went back to my Nexus 6 and the Galaxy S6 has been sitting in the drawer
shigi1231 said:
I have the same dilemna with the case of the oneplus two. The Galaxy S6 for me would have been perfect if it weren't for the damn UI stuttering of TouchWiz.
With regards to the specifications and software experience, do you think I should sell my galaxy s6 and get me a Nexus 6P or Oneplus 2? Opinions would be greatly appreciated. 2 things are holding me back, the beastly Exynos chip and the Camera.
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The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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What is bad about Knox?
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What is bad about Knox?
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Just extra crap you don't need to keep tabs on the device etc .like rooting against your warranty n such
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Just extra crap you don't need to keep tabs on the device etc .like rooting against your warranty n such
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0 benefits of having it right?
clorbag said:
The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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Odd that you would say this and yet I'm reading it on my unlocked, rooted, debloated, knox removed S6 with a custom rom derived from the development that doesn't exist using that crap exynos chip you mentioned that rides at or near the top of the leaderboard in nearly every measurable performance category. lol
Not that the concept in general doesn't have merit as the stock rom does hitch up here and there and thats a shame on such excellent hardware but there is no reason to kick objectivity and factual information to the curb.
To the thread in general I have the S6 and I'm getting this phone but I'll be moving on come spring. I love the Nexus line but I have never made friends with phablet sizing and I'll tire of this phones size after a short while just like I did with all the other phablets I've owned. It is rather irritating to me that my preferred size is the 5 to 5.2 range and this seems to be more and more relegated to the mid range but I'm hopeful that come spring one of the 820 offerings will come with flagship hardware in the 5ish inch range. Of course come next fall I'll jump on the N5/6.1P or whatever it will be called because I'll miss the Nexus line and its unrivaled support. I've owned all but the second, forget what that one was called?
One other thing that jumps out at me about the P is the lack of wireless charging. I'm completely converted over to it for ordinary day to day use and have pads around the house and holders in the cars and on my boat. I do like to have quick charge by whatever name for those moments where you need to pump some quick batt so one is not a replacement for the other. Not a deal breaker but it rides over on the con side for me.
Most of the other stuff mentioned here seems like advantage P or a push to me but the camera is still a question in my mind. It has been reviewed well but none of the reviews I've seen so far have mentioned much about its ability to take a "snap" shot. You know, the one where the moment is there and you take the shot or miss it because its gone forever. No set up, no time to make adjustments. The S6 is as good as I've experienced at that kind of shot. I can usually expect such a picture to be in focus and have reasonably good exposure and so on. Not art, not perfect, but pretty darn good. The P may be just as good or better so I'm not calling it out just saying I haven't seen any reviewers or users here talking about this aspect of the cameras performance.
Did I mention I hate that the flagship hardware is more and more becoming available only in the phablet sizing?
Would anyone here with an s7 edge Exynos variant consider switching to a oneplus 3 and why ?
No way LOL
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NVR think of it
It is like a downgrade, not an upgrade. You lose the waterproof ness, the superb camera screen and the sd. You will only have 6GB ram (not all of them are actually usable. It is a placebo)
Its more of a sidegrade, lol!
It has some aspects that people would consider switching for.
Like the 6GB of RAM. AOSP support. Snapdragon CPU (maybe)
If its going to be like the OPO it will have a great development userbase. And alot of development roms.
Move from a QHD screen on the S7 to an old HD screen on the Oneplus? Never.
After reading Anandtech's analysis of the display on the OnePlus 3, it's a no-go for sure....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
TLR, noticeable pentile matrix (hello 2010), horrible color accuracy (worst they've seen since doing display testing on phones).
Of course, I use my Gear VR quite a bit so that immediately rules out the OnePlus 3. No microSD storage also doesn't help me.
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Surely not. Why would anyone want to loose the features that make the 7 series what it is?!
However, I am considering changing my P9000 for the OP3 but I am waiting to see if they can sort the display out somewhat first? - The P9000 has the best display of any phone I have seen
Its only the camera that could be better.
I hang on to my S7E until I see what Samsung come out with next.
The only good quality about the oneplus 3 is the unlocked bootloader and large development community. I've read the anandtech review and the screen seems like a big disappointment but most other reviews seem to think it's a pretty good one which is confusing lol
I'm looking for Samsung hardware with stock Android and so far this phone doesn't exist.
IMHO compared to the S7 Edge the Oneplus 3 is overall inferior in many hardware aspects.
Pros:
64GB internal memory
6GB RAM (but currently poorly managed without applying a fix...)
Type-C USB
Cons:
less LTE bands
worse AMOLED screen (and non-edge)
worse camera quality
worse flash and autofocus
no microSD card
no heart rate and SpO2 sensors
worse battery
worse fast charging (Oppo's based and not standard)
no wireless charge
no water resistance
and IMHO the Exynos 8890 is better then the Qualcomm 820...
Oneplus 3 price is attractive, but you get what you pay for.
However unfortunately IMHO the S7 Edge is still overpriced...
It would be a downgrade, I don't know anyone dumb enough to do that
i have ordered one. Lets c how it goes.
I ordered one because my work pays for part of the cost. The initial reviews are ok. A firmware upgrade or rooting can help it be better.
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I ordered one because my work pays for part of the cost. The initial reviews are ok. A firmware upgrade or rooting can help it be better.
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Apparently there's going to be an update that deals with the screen accuracy issues.
Had OP2, had nice specs, but in reality it sucked mostly because of the half cooked software. Even though OP seems to be fixing it with OP3 I will never buy from Oneplus ever again
If you consider the overall experience, for what I am in love with the s7 edge, let it be display, battery, software(controversial), the extra samsung features, VR, camera, aesthetics, stability (really important) etc , s7 edge leaves OP3 way behind.
Op3 is a great buy but a downgrade from s7
Nope
I'm buying the OP3 as a side-phone to toy with Who knows, I might sell my S7E later on. Always liked OnePlus devices. I did skip the OP2 though, it was fail. OP3 seems polished and I've heard that OxygenOS 3.0 is rather good this time around! TouchWiz is very capable, but very heavy and feels like a bloated mess comprared to OxygenOS.
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I'm buying the OP3 as a side-phone to toy with Who knows, I might sell my S7E later on. Always liked OnePlus devices. I did skip the OP2 though, it was fail. OP3 seems polished and I've heard that OxygenOS 3.0 is rather good this time around! TouchWiz is very capable, but very heavy and feels like a bloated mess comprared to OxygenOS.
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keep us posted with your thoughts when you get the phone : P wonder how fast will oneplus be pushing updates this time.
No way! Such a downgrade und even worse software. But I consider upcoming HTC nexus, because of this typical samsung's software issue
It seems like a decent device. But the problem is that I already own and can afford my S7E. I don't see anything wrong with the one plus 3, and especially for the price.
But I wouldn't dream of leaving my S7E for it. Worse camera. Worse battery life. Screen is lower resolution, which isn't that big of a deal for me, but it is a con, for sure. The only pluses are the fact that there is no edge, which helps while holding, and the 6gb of ram, which is also questionable for the moment. No doubt that it will be the next big thing as well.
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So Hey guys! Couple of days ago I bought S7 Edge with a 24 month contract (thank God I can pay it quicker) cause my S6 fell apart. Later I even realised that it had fake PLASTIC back. Advice to other people. Better get new ones!
But let's go back to the main topic which is.. Should You leave/sell Your S6/Edge and get a S7/Edge?
Quick answer aka spoiler alert: YESSSS! You definitely should
Let's compare first couple of things. Like camera, performance, speaker, build quality, new features, battery life, custom roms, display quality and similar things.
1. Camera:
S6 has a 16MP camera with 16:9 aspect. And honestly this is the best camera I've ever used(on a phone, dslr's are a different topic) (even though it had a broken OIS in it and it was barely possible to get focus.) S7 Edge has 12MP Dual Pixel camera with 4:3 aspect and honestly.. it actually looks pretty nice. They somehow balanced this camera to take really pretty pictures even without 16:9 aspect (which on photo comparisons IS visible). Other than that S7 Edge takes really great quality photos. Even in COMPLETE DARKNESS! Detail wise both devices have quietly same amount of details on pictures If You look at two photo examples taken with both phones the only thing You'll notice is that S6 has 16:9 aspect and S7 Edge has deeper colours and handles the light a lot better.
I'll try to add some photos as a comparison later.
2. Battery:
S6 has a 2500mAh battery (i'll correct this later if it's slightly different) and S7 Edge (in my case) has a 3600mAh battery. A HUGE monster! I had to charge my S6 AT LEAST twice a day (once a day on stock kernel/rom without root). And my S7 Edge is really hard to discharge it! (running a custom kernel btw). I can play games with highest graphic settings, watch movies, browse the web, call people, text them and check my email etc and at the end of the day (6-8am I wake up) around 10-11pm my phone is at around 20%. Which is great! To get the same results on S6 I would need to charge it again around 3-4pm and then MAYBE it would have ~20% at the end of the day. And for the curious ones, I charge my phone overnight.
Screen on time for my S6 was around 3-4 hours and S7 Edge gets 5-6 hours (so far).
3. Display:
Both devices come with quite the same display but there is noticeable difference when it comes to colours!
My S6 always had a stunning display, but since I've switched to S7 Edge I could HONESTLY see more vibrant colours. The colour red before was really red, and now it's really really red! Maybe it's because the S7 Edge also has a brighter display (in this case I'm not sure if that happens to all s6 models or if it just was my faulty model, no idea).
Other than that S7 Edge has a 5'5 inch display which is in my opinion perfect size. I still can use my one hand to reach the other end of the screen. And watching movies on it finally feels better.
4. Performance
S6 has 3GB of LPDDR4 ram and S7 Edge has 4GB of LPDDR4 ram, both devices have octa core processors and well... I forgot what Ghz they both have but that isn't THAT important (use google and we all know that what it says on the box doesn't mean that the device will be super slow or super fast).
S6 gets around 80-90k score on antutu (the higher the more battery life suffers)
And S7 Edge gets around 130-140k score.
But the real question is. Is it really noticeably faster?
It is! TouchWiz seems a lot smoother on 6.0.1 just like S6 did on 5.1.1. And things like converting a video or unpacking zip/rar files also happen a lot faster. Other than that flashing roms or even that annoying green screen with cogwheels that takes like an hour to load all applications, now takes less than 10 minutes. Which is awesome! I'd say that both devices boot really fast and with S6 barely working I can't compare booting times but I would say that it's barely noticeable.
5. Features!:
S7 Edge has obviously an Edge display that is truly something amazing and makes certain apps look cool. But it's not as sweet and pretty as You would think! Sometimes when You hold the phone the screen gets locked up because the edge of the display is detecting touch. But it's really rare so don't worry about it.
Always on Display? Is it really that awesome and worth switching to S7? Well.. Nope. It is a nice thing that barely discharges like 1% of the battery and it makes Your phone look a bit cooler. But it's not something that I would switch my phone for.
Working edge features? Well. Here it actually gets quite more interesting. Some of those features are ACTUALLY useful, like night clock. Or edge feeds.
Fingerprint sensor/scanner. Definitely improved. It even seems a bit bigger but that might be just a illusion, other than that it recognises my finger with just one fingerprint registered (instead of like 3-4 on s6 that I used to have just so it would actually always work).
Speaker? Well. Quality and the volume is pretty identical in other words REALLY GREAT! .
SDCard slot is definitely a feature that is useful. You can insert a 128GB sd card and stop worrying about the running out space. Or keep custom roms on SD card without taking the phones space. Or anything You want. Or.. if Your phones USB stops working, You can put new rom on Your sd card and flash it this way!
Waterproofness!
Finally something really useful! And cool. I like to bath with my phone just so I can chill and listen to some music or watch a movie (i'm a bathtub lover.. lol) or text some people in the meantime. And finally! I don't need to worry about dropping my phone into water! Even though nowadays most phones are quite resistant to water damage. They still aren't fully waterproof. So IP68 is definitely a great feature!
If You have any questions ask me! I'll be happy to answer. And also I know I was mad at Samsung cause my phone was failing etc and I considered getting G5 cause it has a really awesome wide angle camera but when I realised that it has a tiny amount of features, not so pretty display, no custom roms, etc. I decided to get S7 Edge. And so far I LOVE IT!
I'm not good in writing article like topics so sorry guys!
Then it is not worth the change for a little more battery.s6 forever
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Then it is not worth the change for a little more battery.s6 forever
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Well. After my s6 was dead I had to get a new phone so yeah. But if Your S6 works well then You can safely wait a year or two and wait for a new model.
not worth the upgrade for me. wait for Galaxy S8 and see what it has or Note 7.
not worth for me too.
Indeed the edge s7 looks good but i cannot stand the loose volume buttons and power buttons...they are not built well on the edge versions...they move up and down like crazy and make it feel a cheap phone. on the flat version it s not like that..that s why i switched from an s6 edge to an s6 flat
waterproof, sd card, bigger battery but still...i have an s6edge and getting an s7edge would be a sidegrade, not worth it.
i hope the s8 bring something cool otherwise i wont be upgrading either.
It's not worth it. I mean yeah , it's waterproof , it has an sd card slot but still. I don't think it's worth it.
http://www.gizmochina.com/2017/01/05/xiaomi-releases-white-variant-mi-mix-ces-2017/
I don't see it on any retailers yet
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I don't see it on any retailers yet
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It isn't supposed to be released until later in the year.
It looks absolutely incredible, I have always had a thing for white devices and this one is killer.
Unless they have upgraded the camera its still a no go for me however... as much as i wanted the black one and love the white even more.
Cannot have a device with such a poor camera sadly.
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It looks absolutely incredible, I have always had a thing for white devices and this one is killer.
Unless they have upgraded the camera its still a no go for me however... as much as i wanted the black one and love the white even more.
Cannot have a device with such a poor camera sadly.
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The camera module isn't the issue as much as the camera software is. People using Snap Camera with the Mi MIX have shown off some nice pictures and have had good things to say about the camera. There was also a camera update in the last ROM release. Can anyone comment on the changes from actual use?
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The camera module isn't the issue as much as the camera software is. People using Snap Camera with the Mi MIX have shown off some nice pictures and have had good things to say about the camera. There was also a camera update in the last ROM release. Can anyone comment on the changes from actual use?
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Im sure software can help but the camera module itself is pretty weak also and that cant be fixed with software.
Compared to my note 7 or s7 edge the camera is light years behind
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That may depend on what you like your photos to turn out like. I have never personally been a fan of the overly saturated shots you see on the S7 and S7 Edge. To each their own though.
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Im sure software can help but the camera module itself is pretty weak also and that cant be fixed with software.
Compared to my note 7 or s7 edge the camera is light years behind
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Well, the people who bought the Mix bought it for the experience and the novelty of having the near bezel-less display. At this point, this is something the S7 Edge or Note 7 couldn't provide. Samsung is the king of displays and they could have easily implemented all this. They could have atleast given 6GB memory to the Note 7. They didn't because they wanted to leave that for their next device so that they could give users a reason to upgrade.
When I bought this device, I paid almost 25-30% more than the S7 Edge. I knew the camera was below average and nothing compared to the S7 Edge but I was willing to trade this for experiencing this device. I was a Samsung user and this year I spent more than I would've had to spend on a Galaxy S7 Edge to get this device. And I don't regret it at all. The Mix is not a perfect device and it doesn't have to be. It was not intended to be a mass market device. Its a proof of concept. And Xiaomi isn't asking everyone to buy this. You're paying to experience the concept and I'm glad Xiaomi is giving a chance for people to experience their concept device. Most manufacturers wouldn't even make a concept device available to consumers because they know that the device isn't perfect for the mass market.
For the price you pay, you get top of the line specs, a one of a kind bezel-less display, 256GB UFS 2.1 fast storage which no other mass market android device has and an excellent battery life. I couldn't have asked for more from a concept device. And thats maybe because camera wasn't my priority.
In short, if camera is a priority for you, you're right! No app can compensate for the poor omnivision used on this device. And you may be wasting your time on the Mix forum.
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Well, the people who bought the Mix bought it for the experience and the novelty of having the near bezel-less display. At this point, this is something the S7 Edge or Note 7 couldn't provide. Samsung is the king of displays and they could have easily implemented all this. They could have atleast given 6GB memory to the Note 7. They didn't because they wanted to leave that for their next device so that they could give users a reason to upgrade.
When I bought this device, I paid almost 25-30% more than the S7 Edge. I knew the camera was below average and nothing compared to the S7 Edge but I was willing to trade this for experiencing this device. I was a Samsung user and this year I spent more than I would've had to spend on a Galaxy S7 Edge to get this device. And I don't regret it at all. The Mix is not a perfect device and it doesn't have to be. It was not intended to be a mass market device. Its a proof of concept. And Xiaomi isn't asking everyone to buy this. You're paying to experience the concept and I'm glad Xiaomi is giving a chance for people to experience their concept device.
For the price you pay, you get top of the line specs, a one of a kind bezel-less display, 256GB UFS 2.1 fast storage which no other mass market android device has and an excellent battery life. I couldn't have asked for more from a concept device. And thats maybe because camera wasn't my priority.
In short, if camera is a priority for you, you're right! No app can compensate for the poor omnivision used on this device. And you may be wasting your time on the Mix forum.
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I like to keep an eye on the Mix forums to see whats going on with the device since Im very interested in and find it to be the most interesting phone to come along in a very long time.
And Im sure at some point Xiaomi will drop one with a better camera.. when that happens I will be all over it lol.
Your right though, it has everything else anyone could want in a device and a few things no other device has.
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I like to keep an eye on the Mix forums to see whats going on with the device since Im very interested in and find it to be the most interesting phone to come along in a very long time.
And Im sure at some point Xiaomi will drop one with a better camera.. when that happens I will be all over it lol.
Your right though, it has everything else anyone could want in a device and a few things no other device has.
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From what I've heard, they used the smaller Omnivision sensor so as to make space for the Piezoelectric Acoustic Actuator which sits beside the camera module. They couldn't make the device any taller or wider and so the camera is the only downside of this device. I doubt they would use a different sensor on the White variant as the current design has space constraints to accommodate a larger sensor. The story behind the front camera sensor is again the same. This device uses a 50% smaller sensor compared to most front camera sensors. This was to keep the size of the chin small.
Remember the Aquos which had a big ass chin?
Maybe this year, when the technology becomes more mature, we may see other devices.