I've always had it off, whenever I turn it on Google Play Services MULLERS my battery. It shoots straight up and when i'm on LTE my battery drains 2-5% per hours idle instead of sub 1%.
Anyone else?
ben-fisher-bro said:
I've always had it off, whenever I turn it on Google Play Services MULLERS my battery. It shoots straight up and when i'm on LTE my battery drains 2-5% per hours idle instead of sub 1%.
Anyone else?
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I keep it ON, at all times with High Accuracy, since I have Android Device Manager enabled for my security concerns. Of course, It takes a hold on battery life, so if you are not much concerned with that kind of stuff, you can keep it OFF.
Well google device manager works with location just set to on, it's the reporting that kills battery.
ben-fisher-bro said:
Well google device manager works with location just set to on, it's the reporting that kills battery.
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Yes, I do know, but I also rely on other services like Maps to navigate, at most times. So is the reason of setting it to high accuracy.
On all the time. No battery problems for me.
On. Every so often it goes a bit haywire with the battery and play services, but it's rarer than it was a few iterations back. Have the OP other apps that might mess with it?
Mine is ON with battery saving. When I need car navigation, I set high accuracy with Power Toggles (only one tap to switch between battery saving and high accuracy if you're rooted)
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
I keep mine off all the time. I only turn it on when I need to utilize GPS which is very rare.
Use to keep off, but now it's on Battery save since I'm paired with Huawei SmartWatch..
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I understand the effects of leaving 4G, BT, and even 3G for that matter, ON can consume more battery life. However, what's the consensus on GPS. I have it OFF and turn it ON every time I'm using Google Navigation, etc. However, this is getting quite annoying. Will GPS really turn "off" itself if an application is not using it? I heard that the HTC Sense Weather widget will use the GPS for its refreshing and just that alone will affect battery life.
So what is the final verdict? I feel we've had plenty of time to test our theories by now.
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I understand the effects of leaving 4G, BT, and even 3G for that matter, ON can consume more battery life. However, what's the consensus on GPS. I have it OFF and turn it ON every time I'm using Google Navigation, etc. However, this is getting quite annoying. Will GPS really turn "off" itself if an application is not using it? I heard that the HTC Sense Weather widget will use the GPS for its refreshing and just that alone will affect battery life.
So what is the final verdict? I feel we've had plenty of time to test our theories by now.
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It says in Settings > Location > Use GPS Satellites "Uncheck to conserve battery", so I have to believe it will consume more battery when left on.
I leave it on, and get better than a full day of use from phone.
Only time when it flipped out was when I installed Yelp.
I was in my basement, and my battery went from 100% to 15% in 3 hours.
Uninstalled Yelp. Problem gone.
I was definitely under the impression that gps only used battery when it was being utilized. Hmmm I keep mine on all the time, so maybe its time to turn it off and see if there is a difference.
Sent from my EVO from the Apple Store.
GPS ON should only use more battery when an application that needs GPS asks for it. Android is really good about showing you an icon in the taskbar when the GPS chip is actually used.
I definitely leave GPS on since its only really "ON" and being used when the icon appears at the top of the screen. Otherwise its just available for us when its on.
The term used for the button should really be "Available" or "Unavailable" rather than on and off.
If your wondering about battery safe go into settings and undetermined battery it will show ways absorbing the most power. Believe it or not the how doesn't consume that much
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really ? ofcourse it does
I doubt it consumes more than a fraction of your battery if left on. For that reason, I can't imagine having to manually turn GPS on and off throughout the day - complete waste of time. Even if it chews 5% of your battery in the course of a day(and I doubt it's that much) it's worth leaving on, unless you truly never use it.
This isn't a thread for when your battery drain is excessive on standby, this is a thread dedicated to figuring out how to simply get more power to the phone for extended runtime.
I'm using a 5000 mah external battery pack for extra charge, and it seems to be good enough to last me at least an extra day or two of usage, which is great. It seems like the only other options are cutting up the battery door to fit an extended battery from the evo 3D or just carrying extra batteries...
Best easy change for me was always using wifi instead of the network when at home and work. Made a huge improvement
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This isn't a thread for when your battery drain is excessive on standby, this is a thread dedicated to figuring out how to simply get more power to the phone for extended runtime.
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So....how to get the most time out of your battery in standby?
As you've allready said:
One of the biggest improvements is possible by using a Sensation or Evo3D battery. With that i get a nice 1% per hour in standby. (It's actually a bit lower than 1%).
While not using the phone it's unnessecary to have 3G activated. Recieving emails and texts via whatsapp, viber etc via 2G is good enough. For everything that is more datahungry you can allways activate 3G manually.
Keep background data turned off. I use K9 Mail which works independently and Whatsapp recieves messages too. But a lot of other stuff doesn't syncronize which means less wakelocks and thus less power consumption.
Same with locations. As long as you don't WANT to tell google your every step you can keep network based location turned off.
If you need a location fix quickly you can allways turn on gps for a moment. After using the FasterFix app (i guess you need root for that), i get a gps lock in 5 seconds, so i can determin my location really fast and share it with others (for intance via whatsapp) without having to keep it on all the time.
And last but not least:
You probably don't need to know the current outside temperature every 5 minutes. So set that to manual update too.
Doing these things doesn't turn my smartphone into an overweight dumbphone with a battery problem and i get a maximum of over 4 days of standby time out of it.
Normally my battery holds for roughly 35 hours (1 day and 11 hours), but it's usually awake for 1/4th of the time serving as my newspaper and video and mp3 player.
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Use llama!
You'll never have to worry about forgetting to set your phone on vibrate while at work and setting it to loud at home.
You can configure it so it only activates wifi at home and turns it off again if you didn't connect to any access point after a set amount of time. I haven't had to activate/deactivate wifi manually for ages without having to worry about it constantly searching for networks and sucking my battery dry!
What he said
Dlog said:
So....how to get the most time out of your battery in standby?
As you've allready said:
One of the biggest improvements is possible by using a Sensation or Evo3D battery. With that i get a nice 1% per hour in standby. (It's actually a bit lower than 1%).
While not using the phone it's unnessecary to have 3G activated. Recieving emails and texts via whatsapp, viber etc via 2G is good enough. For everything that is more datahungry you can allways activate 3G manually.
Keep background data turned off. I use K9 Mail which works independently and Whatsapp recieves messages too. But a lot of other stuff doesn't syncronize which means less wakelocks and thus less power consumption.
Same with locations. As long as you don't WANT to tell google your every step you can keep network based location turned off.
If you need a location fix quickly you can allways turn on gps for a moment. After using the FasterFix app (i guess you need root for that), i get a gps lock in 5 seconds, so i can determin my location really fast and share it with others (for intance via whatsapp) without having to keep it on all the time.
And last but not least:
You probably don't need to know the current outside temperature every 5 minutes. So set that to manual update too.
Doing these things doesn't turn my smartphone into an overweight dumbphone with a battery problem and i get a maximum of over 4 days of standby time out of it.
Normally my battery holds for roughly 35 hours (1 day and 11 hours), but it's usually awake for 1/4th of the time serving as my newspaper and video and mp3 player.
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Use llama!
You'll never have to worry about forgetting to set your phone on vibrate while at work and setting it to loud at home.
You can configure it so it only activates wifi at home and turns it off again if you didn't connect to any access point after a set amount of time. I haven't had to activate/deactivate wifi manually for ages without having to worry about it constantly searching for networks and sucking my battery dry!
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Exactly what he said, but you can automate a lot of it by using an app called Tasker. I use it to sync all data on my phone for 3 minutes every 4 hours so it's always up to date. It can also automate the GPS on/off depending which app I use so it switches on when I open CoPilot and turns off again when I close it.
Tasker can also replace Llama if you can find 'profiles. to do it. Llama looks pretty good though.
I think the biggest drain is the display. With auto brightness on, the sensor will monitor the changes in your surrounding every second the moment you turn on the screen. Turn that off and manually control the brightness save a lot of battery.
Or just use lower autobrightness script.
I use Invisibright. Long hold on search softkey + slide enables me to set the brightness to whatever I want in a second no matter what apps are running.
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It is still useless as your sensor is still working every time you turn on your screen. The sensor is draining your battery. Not the brightness value.
Autobrightness sensor drain
So you think that there is a greater drain from the light sensor than from an uncontrolled screen brightness?
Interesting thought. I'll manually set my brightness level a round20% for the next charge cycle and see what effect it has, though I suspect that as my display currently accounts for 20% of battery drain it won't make all that much difference.
I use juice defender and I think its actually working.
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I have used G2 for about a week, battery life has been superb, decided to turn on google now yesterday, drained my battery like 20% in 10 hours while I was sleeping it was keeping phone awake
I turned it completely off now. Does anyone use google now? Anyway to use it but not drain battery?
I use it. Idk how much it drains at night cause that's when I charge the g2. My battery does pretty well though and I'm on it a ton and it still lasts all day.
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tannor said:
I have used G2 for about a week, battery life has been superb, decided to turn on google now yesterday, drained my battery like 20% in 10 hours while I was sleeping it was keeping phone awake
I turned it completely off now. Does anyone use google now? Anyway to use it but not drain battery?
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Google Now will use some more battery because it's checking for updates and probing for location periodically, but nothing like you describe, so something else was going on.
go to google settings, location, and turn off location reporting and location history. Google Now will still work fine, but your battery will immensely improve.
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go to google settings, location, and turn off location reporting and location history. Google Now will still work fine, but your battery will immensely improve.
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OK great thanks going to give it a try, what about do I check off Access Location under that same menu or keep it off?
You can leave that on, it shouldnt impact your battery by itself.
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You can leave that on, it shouldnt impact your battery by itself.
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Thanks one more question, under main settings -> Location access
Do I need any of these on (Access to my location)? and if so which ones? GPS & Verizon or Wi-fi & mobile network location. Right now I have all of it, not sure which is least battery drain
You only need GPS on if you need very accurate pinpointing, like using navigation, mobile network location is fine to leave on.
Another tip: Google Now>settings>Phone Search
You can change which apps Google Now searches on your phone. This sped up Google Now for me as well as helping with battery.
And there's nothing I can do about it. I only have a gear s2 connected at all times and wifi and mobile data off whenever possible. Before I leave to the gym battery is at 44%. After the car ride there it drops one percent. I unlock the phone, connect my powerbeats, and open youtube and there go another 5%. After a YouTube video there is 7% drain. About a 10 minute video too. Leaving the gym and hour later and I see a maybe 20% battery loss. I don't know how people with regular S7s get 4-5 hours SOT because I get only 3.5 maximum. I bought the edge looking for better battery life but it's practically no different than my S5. If anyone knows a magic trick to this, I need to know now because this is extremely annoying.
IF you got the device from an official retailer, just return and get a new replacement. Losing 7% watching a 10' video is not right even with max brightness. You can fix the standby drain by using Forcedoze (which helped reduce my standby drain by 50% to about 1% every 2 hours). 3.5 hours SOT is terrible even with max brightness. Just get a replacement please. It's not worth the time and frustration.
IF you don't have the option of getting a replacement. Forcedoze can help with the standby drain. Factory reset, set up normally (personally, I just turn off bluetooth NFC location and turn them on when needed), and hope that your terrible screen on time is software related.
konoi said:
IF you got the device from an official retailer, just return and get a new replacement. Losing 7% watching a 10' video is not right even with max brightness. You can fix the standby drain by using Forcedoze (which helped reduce my standby drain by 50% to about 1% every 2 hours). 3.5 hours SOT is terrible even with max brightness. Just get a replacement please. It's not worth the time and frustration.
IF you don't have the option of getting a replacement. Forcedoze can help with the standby drain. Factory reset, set up normally (personally, I just turn off bluetooth NFC location and turn them on when needed), and hope that your terrible screen on time is software related.
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Do you think it might be my location by any chance? Maybe the service in my area causes this drain. I also have gps on because of my gear s2 but I can turn that off and see what happens. GSAM tells me the in the past 30 minutes the drain rate is 15% per hour. I browsed the Internet a bit and have been using it the whole time. I'll try to also do a full battery drain test on geekbench with full brightness and see what it tells me.
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Do you think it might be my location by any chance? Maybe the service in my area causes this drain. I also have gps on because of my gear s2 but I can turn that off and see what happens. GSAM tells me the in the past 30 minutes the drain rate is 15% per hour. I browsed the Internet a bit and have been using it the whole time. I'll try to also do a full battery drain test on geekbench with full brightness and see what it tells me.
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It's a good possibility. I have a fairly weak signal where I am most of the day and only get about 4-5 hours of SOT. I have all radios off except WiFi and data when needed. Still with my usage I only charge every 2 to 3 days. I don't get the drain like you do from watching youtube though.
My battery life also sucks. I barely use my phone during the day and it almost dead when I go to sleep. Most of the day I am connected to wifi between my work or home. My old htc m8 one could last 40 hours. I think part of the problem is because I do not have root on this phone. I kind of regret switching because I cannot get root. I cannot use applications to adjust cpu or control my wifi, data and to turn off apps from starting automatically. I think tonight I am going to try and calibrate my battery.
I had horrible battery life after taking the 2 OTAs. BetterBatteryStats would not report the device going into deep sleep at all and I was losing about 10% per hour on standby. I did a Factory Data Reset and all the problems cleared away. BBS is reporting deep sleep after about 5 minutes of the display going dark. I have Wifi, data, Bluetooth, and high-accuracy Location services turned on at all times. I lose about 2.5% per hour now with AOD turned on on standby.
Guess my advice would be to due a FDR after every OTA....
Guys, I had terrible battery life when I first got the phone. Off the charger at 6am, under 20% by 5pm... Follow my steps below and I bet your battery will do a 180 and be very nice. Mine gets me 35-40+ hours on a charge.
Disable the bloat apps you don't want in app manager.
Turn off Google usage and diagnostics reporting for the Google app, and if you use the Google keyboard, there too. This and the next one were the biggest improvements by far.
Turn off Samsung "Send Security Reports," and in the same place, turn off auto-update Samsung security updates.
Turn off device/Bluetooth/WiFi scanning.
Set keep WiFi on during sleep to while charging.
In permissions, I turned off location for any app I didn't think needed it. I went from 30+ to about 15. If an app requires location to work, you will get a popup warning when disabling location for it.
Lastly, I did a Restrict Background Data on several apps I didn't think needed it.
My phone started dozing and the battery drain dropped way out.
I keep AOD and Bluetooth on at all times and connected to my smartwatch all day, and my car about an hours a day.
Hope this helps! Apparently out of the box the S7/Edge battery life is terrible...
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Guys, I had terrible battery life when I first got the phone. Off the charger at 6am, under 20% by 5pm... Follow my steps below and I bet your battery will do a 180 and be very nice. Mine gets me 35-40+ hours on a charge.
Disable the bloat apps you don't want in app manager.
Turn off Google usage and diagnostics reporting for the Google app, and if you use the Google keyboard, there too. This and the next one were the biggest improvements by far.
Turn off Samsung "Send Security Reports," and in the same place, turn off auto-update Samsung security updates.
Turn off device/Bluetooth/WiFi scanning.
Set keep WiFi on during sleep to while charging.
In permissions, I turned off location for any app I didn't think needed it. I went from 30+ to about 15. If an app requires location to work, you will get a popup warning when disabling location for it.
Lastly, I did a Restrict Background Data on several apps I didn't think needed it.
My phone started dozing and the battery drain dropped way out.
I keep AOD and Bluetooth on at all times and connected to my smartwatch all day, and my car about an hours a day.
Hope this helps! Apparently out of the box the S7/Edge battery life is terrible...
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I installed forcedoze and did the adb non-root command and now my phone's battery is holding up better. I think the phone was just sleeping.
It's ridiculous one has to do all this to get closer to acceptable battery life.
Google and SEC should be ashamed of themselves!
It's not just VZW devices either. AT&T are just as bad.
I've given up on trying to get acceptable standby drain and just let the device live on a wireless charger.
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I had horrible battery life after taking the 2 OTAs. BetterBatteryStats would not report the device going into deep sleep at all and I was losing about 10% per hour on standby. I did a Factory Data Reset and all the problems cleared away. BBS is reporting deep sleep after about 5 minutes of the display going dark. I have Wifi, data, Bluetooth, and high-accuracy Location services turned on at all times. I lose about 2.5% per hour now with AOD turned on on standby.
Guess my advice would be to due a FDR after every OTA....
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You need to turn off all radios when you go to sleep for the device to enter deep sleep. I had the same problem and when I started turning off wifi and mobile data for the night GSAM reported deep sleep and I was only losing 3% per night.
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You need to turn off all radios when you go to sleep for the device to enter deep sleep. I had the same problem and when I started turning off wifi and mobile data for the night GSAM reported deep sleep and I was only losing 3% per night.
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I keep all my radios on (BT, LTE, and WiFi) and BBS and GSAM Pro all report that my phone goes into Deep Sleep.
Hi guys,
Hope you all doing great.
Guys i have LG V20 n using from last year. It was working great without any issue. Battery timing was awesome. Giving me 5:30 to 6 hours screen on time. Almost day and Half on normal use. 2 days back something happened no idea what. Now phone idle using more then screen on time and wifi is always on even its off. I tired to uninstall app, then factory reset but still same.... No luck.... Any solution ??
Go to your location setting use the tab in upper right, click setting and turn wifi scanning off.
I tried this but no luck
As i mentioned i tried everything thing, like location off, wifi and Bluetooth scanning off, play services off, Almost everything is off, but still same. No luck...
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As i mentioned i tried everything thing, like location off, wifi and Bluetooth scanning off, play services off, Almost everything is off, but still same. No luck...
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Try to install battery monitor application (I use betterbatterystats) to find out what is causing your idle drain. But to be honest, I've never got 5-6 SOT. My idle drain is about 0,7% per hour with greenify, managed Google play services wakeup, custom kernel, kernel adiutor and about 80 apps on board.
I'll try and help the best I can..
Within the last year or so..I have been reading about this issue quite often. That is, people posting about "Phone Idle" having high percentage in battery stats. And then they are off to hunt down the culprit. The truth is, "Phone Idle" is NOT eating up your battery. Phone Idle is just that.... Time the phone has spent being idle (being still, or CPU/Battery not being used). Or in this case, percentage of total battery "usage" that belongs to "Phone Idle". In actuality, phone idle isn't "using" anything. The "usage" for phone idle is really time NOT used. A higher percentage is better. If your phone sat for 2 days straight without being used...the phone idle % will be real high. Also, you can't "Greenify" phone idle. You only greenify phone idle when you greenify other apps.....think about it.
And as for Wifi. The Wifi radio on this phone is a bit more power hungry. It doesn't even include any power saving options that some phones, like my Samsung S4 has. My S4 used on average from 2% - 6% depending on signal strength. The V20 can use from 7% - 11% ..again depending on signal strength. If you leave Wifi on overnight and it's in bad proximity to the router..10-11% is normal.
What is your average signal strength for your 4G and cellular (calls)? CDMA has 1X, I'm not sure what GSM uses. If it's in the high 90's and higher, that right there could be chewing up your battery. Phone radio often doesn't even show on the usage list.
How often do you need to charge? Also how much time between a charge and what is your usual screen on time now..after you wrote this post? Phone idle is only at the top because the "idle" time now exceeds the amount of time you have your screen on. ......don't take this the wrong way but some people think the phone idle is actually something that's draining the battery. It's not..it's just placed within the list. Ignore the Mah it shows for it. That just assumes it's some app and it tries to convert everything into mah..and I really don't know how accurate that is. But it obviously doesn't apply to Phone Idle. Speaking of...what is the amount of phone idle time?