So i noticed recently that while many games and apps i download can be moved to the sd card no problem (riptide 2 for example), there are dozens of big applications that don't seem to have the option to be move (GrooVR for example).
I have a 200gb sd card and only 32gb internal storage so i was hoping to move a LOT more stuff to the external storage. I don't understand why some apps can't be moved. Anyone else experienced this? Is partitioning the card and using adaptive storage the only true way to free up internal space?
I think that may be our only solution without root. I noticed too that some large apps will allow to move to SD card but it doesn't move all the data, it only moved around 125mb and left well over a gig in the internal. Doest work as good as it should imo.
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Apps to SD or Adoptable Storage... I'm torn. My 200GB card should be here tomorrow and I'm not sure how I want it set up just yet. I'm assuming the adoptable option is able to keep more on the card... can anyone verify this though? Searching the forum hasn't helped much.
Just be sure your card has a fast write speed if you're gonna use adoptable storage. Or else there will be slow down on some apps.
I've tried this before but since went back. But im gonna try adoptable again with a 128gb Evo pro plus sd card. It wont be as fast as Samsung internal speeds of course but if its not too bad I'll post an update. I plan on trying it out with some large games.
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Its a good card. Sandisk deal on amazon few weeks back. But does anyone know why i can't move certain non-system apps to sd via settings?
If the issue is write speeds for things like recording video and transferring media files to the phone for playback I'm not concerned. Don't mind waiting to copy files and don't really record video (ever). Now if playback is a big issue (the part I'm not sure about as most reviews hit primarily on write speed concerns) then I'll stick to the old Apps to SD methodology. I'd just like something more seamless and more consistent.
I haven't looked into it yet, but is it a pain to "divorce" a card? Do you pretty much end up resetting everything?
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Its a good card. Sandisk deal on amazon few weeks back. But does anyone know why i can't move certain non-system apps to sd via settings?
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I may be wrong or things may have changed, but initially when this function was introduced the developer had to specifically set a flag that the app was allowed to be moved. Hence the introduction of some utilities which boasted moving even incompatible apps to SD.
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Just be sure your card has a fast write speed if you're gonna use adoptable storage. Or else there will be slow down on some apps.
I've tried this before but since went back. But im gonna try adoptable again with a 128gb Evo pro plus sd card. It wont be as fast as Samsung internal speeds of course but if its not too bad I'll post an update. I plan on trying it out with some large games.
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Let us know how it works for you. I was trying to avoid it, but i dont think i have a choice. The VR apps are big and most will not move to SD
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Let us know how it works for you. I was trying to avoid it, but i dont think i have a choice. The VR apps are big and most will not move to SD
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Sure.. I might do it this weekend if time permits. I have to back up everything again and factory reset and reinstall all my apps again manually. Damn I miss titanium back up. It and viper are the only things I needed root for..
Wish we could have a working eq on this phone. The default is ok but it could be way better. My note 3 is how I listen to music for now.
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cant move all apps to sd
Well, i maybe know how to move apps(not including system apps) to sd. Most of phones have developer options (if you dont know what is it, u can open it by going to settings, click on about phone, and click 10 on "build number" and then it will be unlocked), in developer options scroll down and look if you have "force allow move to sdcard/external".
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Well, i maybe know how to move apps(not including system apps) to sd. Most of phones have developer options (if you dont know what is it, u can open it by going to settings, click on about phone, and click 10 on "build number" and then it will be unlocked), in developer options scroll down and look if you have "force allow move to sdcard/external".
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Beat me to it
did it worked?
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I decided to get the 16GB Moto X Pure, figuring I'd save music, photos, and videos to the (32GB) extsd. I probably wouldn't be able to install more than one large game on the phone, but I was fine with that.
I thought it was working well, until yesterday I tried to install a weather app, and was told "Insufficient Space". I was shocked. I do have a lot of apps installed, but nothing very graphical -- the according to DiskUsage, the biggest culprits in "App Data" are Amazon, Firefox, and Google Play Services (adding up to < 1 GB together), leaving me with 958 MB free. On "Storage Card" (apparently a separate partition of the main memory), the main culprits are 7.7 GB of "System data", distantly followed by my NewsPlus cache and an "Android" directory.
This is after I've used "Move to SD Card" on these larger apps.
I'm not sure what else I can do, aside from returning the phone. How have you dealt with this problem?
I haven't had any issues with my 16gb. Around 50 apps or so installed, and anything media related goes on my 128gb sd card.
With Android m around the corner, 16gb phone will be sightly irrelevant, since you'll be able to format your sd as internal storage.
I do regularly have to go and move my downloads to the sd card though.
6.0 can use your SD card and internal and merge it. Be patient
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No. You're fine. I got a little freeze action finally, using one dialer, another text messenger, and yet another theme, and yet another keyboard, all in the same space at the same time, and it took a minute for the phone to figure it out. I restarted the phone and have not had a problem since.
I have a 16 GB, and I decided that my rule of thumb, was going to be, always keep five GB free, no matter what I was doing. On the other hand, I am not a gamer.
My first move, was to confer with people here, get rid of all the unnecessary programs, ( see the conversation on how to put my Moto X pure on steroids), then went to every single app one by one, and any time I saw an option to move it to the SD card, I did so.
I ended up freeing up about seven GB worth of space, and the phone is running fine.
What I'm wondering is, is there a single "clear cache" function on the phone somewhere, or have I finally arrived at the point where I need to route this phone?
Good luck! Since we have the same kind of phone, we can share tips.
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6.0 can use your SD card and internal and merge it. Be patient
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what's that you say? Merge? This is different from moving functioning after the SD card?
do tell!
thanks.
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No. You're fine. I got a little freeze action finally, using one dialer, another text messenger, and yet another theme, and yet another keyboard, all in the same space at the same time, and it took a minute for the phone to figure it out. I restarted the phone and have not had a problem since.
I have a 16 GB, and I decided that my rule of thumb, was going to be, always keep five GB free, no matter what I was doing. On the other hand, I am not a gamer.
My first move, was to confer with people here, get rid of all the unnecessary programs, ( see the conversation on how to put my Moto X pure on steroids), then went to every single app one by one, and any time I saw an option to move it to the SD card, I did so.
I ended up freeing up about seven GB worth of space, and the phone is running fine.
What I'm wondering is, is there a single "clear cache" function on the phone somewhere, or have I finally arrived at the point where I need to route this phone?
Good luck! Since we have the same kind of phone, we can share tips.
P
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what's that you say? Merge? This is different from moving functioning after the SD card?
do tell!
thanks.
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You will be able to use micro SD AS internal. Example 16gb and 32gb SD card will both be used AS internal.
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what's that you say? Merge? This is different from moving functioning after the SD card?
do tell!
thanks.
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Marshmallow has a feature called "adoptable storage." "Adopting" a piece of external storage lets the system reformat it and treat it just like internal storage. The external storage can then become the primary storage the device uses for apps, private data, and media.
Marshmellow allows you to use SD card as internal space, not as separate removable storage. So the update will help you gain more usable space.
Be aware if you merge storage I don't believe you're supposed to remove the card or am I wrong?
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benjamminh said:
Be aware if you merge storage I don't believe you're supposed to remove the card or am I wrong?
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Removing storage you have adopted is generally a bad idea. Apps that have critical data on the removed storage will no longer work.
jase33 said:
Removing storage you have adopted is generally a bad idea. Apps that have critical data on the removed storage will no longer work.
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Worst case scenario you re install apps thats all
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I am not sure if I am willing to give up root for Android M. I am hearing it will be very hard to root Android M since it will require modify bootloader.
paoloroeseke said:
With Android m around the corner, 16gb phone will be sightly irrelevant, since you'll be able to format your sd as internal storage.
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I CAN'T WAIT! I have around 60-70ish apps that I use, and all of them are on my SD, but still leaves a little over 7GB of app data on my internal storage, so this will be a major benefit for many I believe
I can't wait for that!
I have the Moto X Pure Edition US running marshmallow. The phone is 16 GB with a 64 GB SD Card, when I download playlists from Google Play Music they save to the internal storage and not the SD card. How do I change this behavior? I have the SD card as adoptable storage.
when you have the sd card integrated with the internal storage, the phone will automatically determine where to actually place content depending on amount of space free, speed of sd card, and what the content is. Otherwise, google play music would have an option to save to sd card in its settings. Since the sd card is "adoptable", everything will be recognized as "internal storage".
Good question. I have the same setup and regretting not getting 32GB internal. I don't know how it saves things to certain areas. I had to manually move a bunch of apps to SD card to free up internal space even though everything is recognized as internal storage. I have to do that after every flash of a new ROM?
sp44 said:
Good question. I have the same setup and regretting not getting 32GB internal. I don't know how it saves things to certain areas. I had to manually move a bunch of apps to SD card to free up internal space even though everything is recognized as internal storage. I have to do that after every flash of a new ROM?
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I am in the exact same boat. I bought the 16 gig(that's all best buy had) thinking that MM will negate any storage issues I may have.
lazerus06 said:
I am in the exact same boat. I bought the 16 gig(that's all best buy had) thinking that MM will negate any storage issues I may have.
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What If you removed play music using tibu and downloaded it so it's not system app, then move play music to your sd card using the adaptive storage option? I tried that with spotify but it tells me to re login each time.
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What If you removed play music using tibu and downloaded it so it's not system app, then move play music to your sd card using the adaptive storage option? I tried that with spotify but it tells me to re login each time.
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I am not rooted.
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I am not rooted.
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Then I don't know lol
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Glad I'm not the only one with this issue. It's really disappointing I bought this phone in a hurry there was only a 16gb available, I thought adoptive storage would be fine it's not. Google Maps saving maps offline also saves to Internal Storage also with no option to put the stuff somewhere else. I already have my regular phone storage almost full with no way to move stuff around.
Disappointing.
pauldavid77 said:
Glad I'm not the only one with this issue. It's really disappointing I bought this phone in a hurry there was only a 16gb available, I thought adoptive storage would be fine it's not. Google Maps saving maps offline also saves to Internal Storage also with no option to put the stuff somewhere else. I already have my regular phone storage almost full with no way to move stuff around.
Disappointing.
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Same here, I figured the new storage option would take the internal and the sd card and basically format it into 1 storage option.
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Same here, I figured the new storage option would take the internal and the sd card and basically format it into 1 storage option.
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Did you by any chance do migrate data? after I did that (not using play music) my sd-card would show as internal.
my 32GB space only shows in the storage & usb section and everything is being used off the 64GB card.
The issue is raised on google forums here https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/CgNiUtLjC1I
I am trying to see if i can move GPM to userland with tibu but the real solution would be for google to fix GPM to store data on the sd card when in adoptable storage mode. Suggest upvoting / commenting on the issue if you have the problem.
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I tried tibu but after a series of hung tibu "processing" boxes, and reboots I finally had it as a user app and could move it to sd card. I then went to reboot again to clear an erroneous tibu notification and suddenly the gpm app is back to a system app on internal storage. Wtf.
Anyone else had success?
sweets11 said:
The issue is raised on google forums here https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/CgNiUtLjC1I
I am trying to see if i can move GPM to userland with tibu but the real solution would be for google to fix GPM to store data on the sd card when in adoptable storage mode. Suggest upvoting / commenting on the issue if you have the problem.
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I tried tibu but after a series of hung tibu "processing" boxes, and reboots I finally had it as a user app and could move it to sd card. I then went to reboot again to clear an erroneous tibu notification and suddenly the gpm app is back to a system app on internal storage. Wtf.
Anyone else had success?
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Uninstalled with tibu. All sorts of ugly errors. Installed apk version of gpm. Reported it was in user land but couldn't move to sd. Rebooted. Moved ok and gpm reports full adoptable storage space. Not game to restart. Working so I'm happy.
I have an HTC M8 16gb I integrated a 64gb SD card and it seems to work fine, except for the fact that regardless of the music player that I use it can't seem to find my music but it is there on my phone
Is there any fix yet ?
I heard a few days back about being able to move apps onto the sd card but has anyone been able to confirm whether or not app data from moved apps will be stored in the SD card or the phone?
Haven't been lucky enough to get my pre order yet but thank you for the answer.
Ooh, and am wondering are the unstable remounting/unmounting of SD cards just restricted to a few devices or are a more widespread problem due to architecture, if anyone knows :S
shadowloop said:
I heard a few days back about being able to move apps onto the sd card but has anyone been able to confirm whether or not app data from moved apps will be stored in the SD card or the phone?
Haven't been lucky enough to get my pre order yet but thank you for the answer.
Ooh, and am wondering are the unstable remounting/unmounting of SD cards just restricted to a few devices or are a more widespread problem due to architecture, if anyone knows :S
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I would like to know the same thing.
I'm not sure why all of a sudden this is news. Are there just a lot of people new to Android? Back when expandable storage was still popular on Android devices you could always do this, albeit there were some restrictions on which app can be moved. It also depended on the developer of the app to make some of the data move to SD. If you're new, the actual app stays on the phone in a partition you can't access unless you have root access. All the other data that would be stored on the phones internal storage (and could be accessible to users) could be moved to SD card.
I also find people complaining about adoptable storage ridiculous.
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I'm not sure why all of a sudden this is news. Are there just a lot of people new to Android? Back when expandable storage was still popular on Android devices you could always do this, albeit there were some restrictions on which app can be moved. It also depended on the developer of the app to make some of the data move to SD. If you're new, the actual app stays on the phone in a partition you can't access unless you have root access. All the other data that would be stored on the phones internal storage (and could be accessible to users) could be moved to SD card.
I also find people complaining about adoptable storage ridiculous.
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Right, I am an android user; I am just new to using SD card on android (on an old moto x). Just to clear things up, the question would by no means be related to the adoptable storage media coverage which I too, find pointless. I am simply trying to gauge the size of the SD card I am going to purchase as well as getting a general idea of how conscious I would have to be with my 20ish GB of internal storage when downloading apps with the phone.
EDIT: Ah, okok, it is easier now to just research the SD card app data storage for each individual app that I'm concerned about. Thanks!
Anyways, as a newbie, taking from your post above, when moving the app to SD card, the actual app itself (download size) would stay in a partition in internal storage and, depending on the individual apps, some information would be migrated to SD and some data wouldn't? So it is probable that apps such as Spotify and Amazon Video would store any offline media files in internal storage regardless of moving to SD card, to prevent potential access by users?
Thanks!
Which sd card would be the best for this phone?
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Anyways, as a newbie, taking from your post above, when moving the app to SD card, the actual app itself (download size) would stay in a partition in internal storage and, depending on the individual apps, some information would be migrated to SD and some data wouldn't? So it is probable that apps such as Spotify and Amazon Video would store any offline media files in internal storage regardless of moving to SD card, to prevent potential access by users?
Thanks!
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Yes you are absolutely correct.
Although ASUS has removed the new Marshmallow option to format the external SD Card as adoptable storage, it can easily be done via adb. Just follow this guide:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
The only difference I found was that on mine the drive location numbers were separated by a comma rather than a colon (i.e. 169,64).
Here is a screenshot of my 16GB model with 16GB SD card adopted:
kanagawaben said:
Although ASUS has removed the new Marshmallow option to format the external SD Card as adoptable storage, it can easily be done via adb. Just follow this guide:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
The only difference I found was that on mine the drive location numbers were separated by a comma rather than a colon (i.e. 169,64).
Here is a screenshot of my 16GB model with 16GB SD card adopted:
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Thanks that's super useful, I will give this a try and let you know if it works for me, I don't know why ASUS removed this feature as its probably the best feature of marshmallow, anyway I think its recommended to have a minimum of a class 10 SD card when using adoptable storage to ensure there's no slowdown when accessing things on the SD card.
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Thanks that's super useful, I will give this a try and let you know if it works for me, I don't know why ASUS removed this feature as its probably the best feature of marshmallow, anyway I think its recommended to have a minimum of a class 10 SD card when using adoptable storage to ensure there's no slowdown when accessing things on the SD card.
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Pretty sure they removed it to keep things simple and because it doesn't work perfectly. Even with a class 10 SD card, it is noticeably slow. I will probably move most, if not all of my apps back to the real internal storage. But that's fine. At least it means I don't have to worry about running out of space, and don't have to manage where podcasts, videos, photos etc are being stored.
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Pretty sure they removed it to keep things simple and because it doesn't work perfectly. Even with a class 10 SD card, it is noticeably slow. I will probably move most, if not all of my apps back to the real internal storage. But that's fine. At least it means I don't have to worry about running out of space, and don't have to manage where podcasts, videos, photos etc are being stored.
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Yeah I guess so and the speed is a big issue, I think you'd probably have to use an UHS SD card to make it work smoothly. But still useful
I agree about the UHS card. And even amongst regular class 10 cards, I understand there is considerable difference. Mine was a cheaper brand and performance is not great, but I'm told that Samsung Evo ones, for example, are better.
Also agree that it is a useful feature. Because it needs some management and user interaction, it's probably wise that makers like Samsung and ASUS have taken it out, as it might cause more harm than good for average users who really need things to just work. However, it's a nice feature for us tech nerd xda types who can handle it appropriately, and it's an easy little hack to enable it so it's all good. And let's be honest, we all enjoy little hidden extra features that we can hacktivate by ourselves!
I swapped out my cheap generic Class 10 SDHC for a better UHS (40 Mbps) Class 10 SDHC one today. The difference is very noticeable - apps on the UHS card open almost instantaneously, unlike on the regular card, where there was a long delay before they opened.
Can someone check the build.prop and tell me what this line says
ro.build.characteristics=
If it says nodscard or similar try changing it to say
ro.build.characteristics=default
And see if that will enable native adoptable storage.
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eoghan2t7 said:
Can someone check the build.prop and tell me what this line says
ro.build.characteristics=
If it says nodscard or similar try changing it to say
ro.build.characteristics=default
And see if that will enable native adoptable storage.
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Code:
adb shell getprop | grep ro.build.characteristics
[ro.build.characteristics]: [nosdcard]
kanagawaben said:
Because it needs some management and user interaction, it's probably wise that makers like Samsung and ASUS have taken it out, as it might cause more harm than good for average users who really need things to just work.
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You're getting it all wrong. It's all about profit. If the manufacturers leave in the option to adopt external storage, knowledgeable consumers will have no reason to spend more $$ and buy the manufacturers' devices with larger internal memory. And yes, it also saves them a lot of support issues with people complaining their phone is slow, when it turns out they are using slow SD cards.
So, it's nice that Google added that feature, but ultimately I believe very few of the really big / mainstream manufacturers will actually not disable it. As was mentioned in many articles around the 'net, this feature is really meant for AndroidOne devices, cheap devices with very little internal memory.
So, could anyone post Sequential Read / Write and Random Read / Write speeds that would allow SD card to match or get close enough to ZenFone 2's internal storage?
It's really hard to choose the right SD card when every article in the Internet literally starts and ends with "class 6 card is worse than class 10 card but they are both ok for Full HD video derpaderp..." I KNOW it's OK for HD-video but that's not THE ONLY THING I am going to do with my SMART-freakin'-phone! We are not 5 years old, we can understand a bit more complicated technical specs than that.
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So, could anyone post Sequential Read / Write and Random Read / Write speeds that would allow SD card to match or get close enough to ZenFone 2's internal storage?
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You'll never get close to internal speeds. Even with the fastest cards.
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You'll never get close to internal speeds. Even with the fastest cards.
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Well, if we can trust this article, http://www.anandtech.com/show/9251/the-asus-zenfone-2-review/6 , it doesn't seem like completely unreacheble. But it's hard to compare results from different testing software.
Btw, I don't need something extremely close, all I want is to get apps to launch from SD card within reasonable time.
Non-UHS Class 10 card was useless, but now that I am using the 40 Mbps UHS card, it's not that bad. Apps open reasonably fast and hasn't really behaved any differently. And this was a cheap 16GB card from a Japanese maker called Greenhouse that I picked up on sale for the equivalent of about $7 .
I was able to set up the storage as adoptable on my device, but no apps allow the option to move to the SD card. I'm guessing if I want this to happen I need to uninstall/reinstall the apps, since they go to the most available space by default?
Edit: what about copying over data to store externally on the card? Since it's formatted as internal, of course it doesn't show the card in file explorer apps or in Windows. I've got 28 gigs of media files to copy over from the old card and I'm not sure where to put it.
Hallo.
I've tried to enable adoptable storage and it's success. But after 1 month, my sd card has been crash.
The problem is my (real) internal storage now only can run the app, but can't use to save file, music, video, etc. Even I can't use my camera to take photo, bcz the (real) internal storage is not available.
It's bcz when I enable the adoptable storage, it's separated the (real) internal storage only for save data app, and internal storage (from sdcard) for save data app and also file like music, photo, video, etc.
How to enable my (real) internal storage to save data file like usually?
Plz anyone can help? I really appreciate it.
android 7.1.1 ??
Will this work on zenfone 4 max with android 7.1.1? For ADB tools, I wasn't sure what to answer (Y or N) on some of the installation questions. I said N to system wide and N to install drivers. The instructions above seemed ambiguous that you could say yes or no to skip steps, but not sure if that's why it didn't work for me or if this tutorial was for older phone software. Also I have windows 10 and power shell window not command window. Any help much appreciated!
Just bought a Huawei P10 Lite, was mainly looking for an Android 7.0 phone due to the newish Android feature of using an SD card to extend the internal memory and the P10 Lite seemed the most feature-rich phone at the price point.
To my horror there doesnt seem to be an option in the Memory & Storage options to configure the SD card as internal storage. I searched online but nothing about this phone and extending the internal storage which seems odd as I thought it was a popular phone. I noticed a post regarding the P8 where a user stated Huawei hadn't included this Android feature (seems bizarre) and they gave instructions on how to root the device and do something strange to it.
Surprised no one talking about it!
There's definitely an option to use the SD card as your main storage device in storage section as I used it before. What firmware is your on right now? It worked fine for me on my WAS-LX1AC185B172
If 32 gigabytes is not enough for you, then i don't know how much is enough. 128GB maybe?
Anyways, there is an option in "Memory & storage" called "Default location", which basically switches the internal storage for the SDcard. This is what you're looking for.
I think OP means adoptable storage - a feature introduced in Marshmallow. It merges your external and internal storage into one large pool. It, however, prevents the card from being portable. The card is formatted specifically to your device and I believe it'll cause problems with the device function if removed anyway.
I don't think Huawei supports it. I have only found the option to flip the default storage location. It may be available through some of the format options but I'm not too keen on risking it wiping my card if it doesn't give me a prompt if I was to test it.
It may be possible to force it through ADB commands. Not sure though.
Hi all yes specifically referring to adoptable storage.
I have set the SD card as "Default Storage" but in my experience it doesnt mean more than the system storing user data like photos and music on the SD card which is a no brainer really (why would a user even need to set this as an option?). Doesn't seem to be any info about what this actually does on this phone though. I can't even see an option to move Apps to the SD card on the P10 Lite but that was always a bizarre and tediously repetitive and half-hearted operation on my old Samsung S5, even if an App supported it, after an update it would just revert back to internal phone storage.
Many of my messaging apps have bloated databases that grow to over 1Gb in size after a couple of years let alone the bloatware of most apps in general. I notice that some messaging apps even keep media files inside the internal filesystem structure which ends up being the internal memory space. I would rather this was instead eating up cheap SD card space than the faster internal memory left for just the OS.
Considering that half of the phone storage is used up by the time you first turn it on, the adoptable storage funcationality introduced in Android Marshmallow is a gods send. Can't believe phone manufactures are trying to protect product placement with their 32GB and 64GB models to the extent of leaving out a flagship Android feature!
God data storage on Android is still a mess after all these years!
longreat said:
Hi all yes specifically referring to adoptable storage.
I have set the SD card as "Default Storage" but in my experience it doesnt mean more than the system storing user data like photos and music on the SD card which is a no brainer really (why would a user even need to set this as an option?). Doesn't seem to be any info about what this actually does on this phone though. I can't even see an option to move Apps to the SD card on the P10 Lite but that was always a bizarre and tediously repetitive and half-hearted operation on my old Samsung S5, even if an App supported it, after an update it would just revert back to internal phone storage.
Many of my messaging apps have bloated databases that grow to over 1Gb in size after a couple of years let alone the bloatware of most apps in general. I notice that some messaging apps even keep media files inside the internal filesystem structure which ends up being the internal memory space. I would rather this was instead eating up cheap SD card space than the faster internal memory left for just the OS.
Considering that half of the phone storage is used up by the time you first turn it on, the adoptable storage funcationality introduced in Android Marshmallow is a gods send. Can't believe phone manufactures are trying to protect product placement with their 32GB and 64GB models to the extent of leaving out a flagship Android feature!
God data storage on Android is still a mess after all these years!
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The SD card isn't as fast. That's one reason they don't want you to install apps onto it. It degrades the experience. And without an API of some sort it would be difficult to implement an app structure that split the data to place non-vital data on the card. Many devices don't have slots so it isn't an area developers give much thought.
If you use the format option, does it give you any option to select adoptable storage or is it just erase?
Otherwise I guess your best option is to try look for ADB commands or maybe even root.
Edit: I found an option to allow apps on external storage in developer settings if you scroll all the way to the bottom.
I used an SD card to store my Here we Go and Sygic maps when travelling.
Until I took a break from driving one day, connected an USB OTG cable with usb stick to the device and all my maps from the internal SD were gone.
From that day on I never install any data that is used by an app on the SD card. (and never had problems with it anymore)
Documents or music are no problem.
Spotify on P10 lite
Spotify in itself is using up most of my internal storage.
How can I move the songs from there to the SD card? If I can't then remind me never to buy a phone with less than 64GB internal memory next time.
The reviews all seemed too good to be true!!
chimneytops said:
Spotify in itself is using up most of my internal storage.
How can I move the songs from there to the SD card? If I can't then remind me never to buy a phone with less than 64GB internal memory next time.
The reviews all seemed too good to be true!!
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Thanks but I do not see the Storage option in Spotify
chimneytops said:
Thanks but I do not see the Storage option in Spotify
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I just downloaded the app to check and it's there. Found it immediately.
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Under Other, I only see Delete Cache or Log Out.
I tried logging out and in again, but no difference.
So frustrating.
I cannot even send texts at the moment and I have already uninstalled loads of apps, complete disaster.
chimneytops said:
Under Other, I only see Delete Cache or Log Out.
I tried logging out and in again, but no difference.
So frustrating.
I cannot even send texts at the moment and I have already uninstalled loads of apps, complete disaster.
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I have to ask: you do have an SD card mounted, right?
Do you have the latest version of the Spotify app?
Do you have the latest ota update?
Have you tried clearing app data and cache?
Have you tried uninstalling the app and reinstalling?
However if you can't send texts then you have bigger problems. It may be related, it may not be.
Have you tried with another phone with the same sim? Have you tried a factory reset?
Did you try this???
Trixanity said:
I have to ask: you do have an SD card mounted, right?
Do you have the latest version of the Spotify app?
Do you have the latest ota update?
Have you tried clearing app data and cache?
Have you tried uninstalling the app and reinstalling?
However if you can't send texts then you have bigger problems. It may be related, it may not be.
Have you tried with another phone with the same sim? Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yes, SD card mounted and storing photos on it.
I have uninstalled the app and downloaded it again. I still do not see the option to store the songs to the SD card though.
What is the ota update and how do I run it?
If I clear app data and the cache will I lose all the songs saved to date?
I have yet to download all the many songs again, so that has freed up loads of storage. So I can send texts again.
chimneytops said:
Yes, SD card mounted and storing photos on it.
I have uninstalled the app and downloaded it again. I still do not see the option to store the songs to the SD card though.
What is the ota update and how do I run it?
If I clear app data and the cache will I lose all the songs saved to date?
I have yet to download all the many songs again, so that has freed up loads of storage. So I can send texts again.
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OTA update just means the latest version/update for the phone. Check for system updates.
I can't guarantee what happens to your songs but I would assume that those are not stored locally if it's just a list (you did say you cleared some out to regain space). I would assume you'd be able to access the same list from any device as long as you are logged in. Otherwise that's pretty bad design considering their business model.
If you have very little space on your phone the system will start to get sluggish and if really low system functions will stop working.
Can you tell me the version number of the Spotify app? The reason I'm asking (besides making sure it's the same as the one I downloaded) is that I seem to recall Spotify cutting support for their old app and launching a new one to replace it.
But if you do have the new app, then either something's wrong with the compatibility of your phone/sd card/app or it's because you can't switch storage while data is stored (kinda like an initial setup) hence clearing app data could fix it.
If it's still not working I may have one last trick up my sleeve.
Trixanity said:
OTA update just means the latest version/update for the phone. Check for system updates.
I can't guarantee what happens to your songs but I would assume that those are not stored locally if it's just a list (you did say you cleared some out to regain space). I would assume you'd be able to access the same list from any device as long as you are logged in. Otherwise that's pretty bad design considering their business model.
If you have very little space on your phone the system will start to get sluggish and if really low system functions will stop working.
Can you tell me the version number of the Spotify app? The reason I'm asking (besides making sure it's the same as the one I downloaded) is that I seem to recall Spotify cutting support for their old app and launching a new one to replace it.
But if you do have the new app, then either something's wrong with the compatibility of your phone/sd card/app or it's because you can't switch storage while data is stored (kinda like an initial setup) hence clearing app data could fix it.
If it's still not working I may have one last trick up my sleeve.
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Hi, the version I downloaded is 8.4.61.683 armV7
chimneytops said:
Hi, the version I downloaded is 8.4.61.683 armV7
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That's the same one I tested.
Try go into your app settings and make sure Spotify has the right permissions granted.
If it's still not working (also make sure you have plenty space on SD card) then clearing the data is probably the best solution. Apparently it deletes preferences and offline playlists (whatever that means). I'm not sure if it affects your playlists or if you can save them online so you can retrieve them later. Otherwise make a backup of: internal storage/Android/Data/com.spotify.music/ just in case.
Rebooting the phone can also sometimes help by the way.
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That's the same one I tested.
Try go into your app settings and make sure Spotify has the right permissions granted.
If it's still not working (also make sure you have plenty space on SD card) then clearing the data is probably the best solution. Apparently it deletes preferences and offline playlists (whatever that means). I'm not sure if it affects your playlists or if you can save them online so you can retrieve them later. Otherwise make a backup of: internal storage/Android/Data/com.spotify.music/ just in case.
Rebooting the phone can also sometimes help by the way.
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Thanks, what are the right permissions for Spotify in app settings?
chimneytops said:
Thanks, what are the right permissions for Spotify in app settings?
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Storage access I guess. I don't think there's explicitly an SD card permission (at least not to my knowledge).
I also wondered if you had tried formatting the SD card?