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Reviews Master Thread

Let's collect all reviews here. Will be updating as I find (/you post) new reviews.
Reviews:
CNet
Android Authority
Verge
Android Central
Android Central Updated
Engadget
GSM Arena
Phone Arena
Droid Life
Ars Technicia
Android Police
Pocket Now
Mashable
Slash Gear
Tech Radar
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MKBHD Review - YouTube
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A very good review from iverge!!
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/4/5778556/lg-g3-review

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WHY???

http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
After just seven days it's clear to us that the G3 is at least a good phone, and LG's best yet. And as we count down to the global launch, we'll soon see whether it can become a great one.
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Nobody can beat engadget review. Best review ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/05/lg-g3-review/

http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3-review-1086.php
Disappointing display quality, battery and performance.

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Disappointing display quality, battery and performance.
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Display? It can't be worse than G2's, it's next gen WQHD AH-IPS matrix
Batter? Disappointing? Where? You need 18hours per day of surfing or what? 7hrs is pretty enough

Are you looking at numbers (resolution) only? Look at the blacks, look at the contrast... it's bad. Plus it doesn't allow full brightness when phone gets warm.
And yes 6h of web surfing at 50% brightness sucks, Z2 or G2 give twice of that, around 12h.

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Are you looking at numbers (resolution) only? Look at the blacks, look at the contrast... it's bad. Plus it doesn't allow full brightness when phone gets warm.
And yes 6h of web surfing at 50% brightness sucks, Z2 or G2 give twice of that, around 12h.
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blacks are better on the G3, both at 50% and 100%
whites aren't as good though

*Emix* said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3-review-1086.php
Disappointing display quality, battery and performance.
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Great review. Really in depth and raises concerns about going with this phone. They should've stuck with FullHD...

Kawaisa said:
blacks are better on the G3, both at 50% and 100%
whites aren't as good though
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You interpret it wrong from gsmarena. Lower value means deeper black. G3 Black level is worse than G2
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*Emix* said:
Are you looking at numbers (resolution) only? Look at the blacks, look at the contrast... it's bad. Plus it doesn't allow full brightness when phone gets warm.
And yes 6h of web surfing at 50% brightness sucks, Z2 or G2 give twice of that, around 12h.
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Kawaisa said:
blacks are better on the G3, both at 50% and 100%
whites aren't as good though
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Great review. Really in depth and raises concerns about going with this phone. They should've stuck with FullHD...
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dragon135 said:
You interpret it wrong from gsmarena. Lower value means deeper black. G3 Black level is worse than G2
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This is clearly a pathetic review. They say everything against it on the particular page and on the last page they say everything positive. And those smart people made the review with the preproduction unit too! A phone with a tallk time of 25hours can never have 6:30 Minutes of web browsing. Also, what disappointment in benchamarks? Seriously? Then Nexus 5 is the worst phone ever on performance..
Best is go and have a look at it yourself. Samsung paid them sooo much just to get the name down.. They sold more than 100000 Units in the first 5 days which was 3 times more than the S5 so obviously Samsung is jealous. I have written a mail to them asking about each and every aspect. Hope they reply soon.:good:

Jishnu Sur™ said:
This is clearly a pathetic review. They say everything against it on the particular page and on the last page they say everything positive. And those smart people made the review with the preproduction unit too! A phone with a tallk time of 25hours can never have 6:30 Minutes of web browsing. Also, what disappointment in benchamarks? Seriously? Then Nexus 5 is the worst phone ever on performance..
Best is go and have a look at it yourself. Samsung paid them sooo much just to get the name down.. They sold more than 100000 Units in the first 5 days which was 3 times more than the S5 so obviously Samsung is jealous. I have written a mail to them asking about each and every aspect. Hope they reply soon.:good:
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Well the numbers and measurement don't lie. We already know the benchmark number will not be as good as s5, m8 due to QHD resolution given they use same cpu as S5 witb FHD resolution.
browsing make use of QHD, graphic, processing, javascript, and everything, while talk time is not (just black screen).
Screen measurement is disapointing already compared to even G2. It means the panel quality is not as good.
They praised it in the end because from normal user it really is good lhone witb good design. LG tried hard.
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Jishnu Sur™ said:
This is clearly a pathetic review. They say everything against it on the particular page and on the last page they say everything positive. And those smart people made the review with the preproduction unit too! A phone with a tallk time of 25hours can never have 6:30 Minutes of web browsing. Also, what disappointment in benchamarks? Seriously? Then Nexus 5 is the worst phone ever on performance..
Best is go and have a look at it yourself. Samsung paid them sooo much just to get the name down.. They sold more than 100000 Units in the first 5 days which was 3 times more than the S5 so obviously Samsung is jealous. I have written a mail to them asking about each and every aspect. Hope they reply soon.:good:
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I'm sure there is some wild conspiracy as to why GSM Arena lied in their review. Surely Samsung paid them off! Speaking of Samsung and sales...there was a huge no sale in South Korea the same time the S5 launched, which explains the low initial numbers. This has been reported by news outlets. I'm an LG fan and wanted the G3 to be so much more, but they were too quick to market with the QHD screen and should've waited for better battery tech or processor optimization. I'm buying the G2 over this phone, because it's been proven to be an amazing device, even months later. Don't let your fanboyism blind you...
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Well the numbers and measurement don't lie. We already know the benchmark number will not be as good as s5, m8 due to QHD resolution given they use same cpu as S5 witb FHD resolution.
browsing make use of QHD, graphic, processing, javascript, and everything, while talk time is not (just black screen).
Screen measurement is disapointing already compared to even G2. It means the panel quality is not as good.
They praised it in the end because from normal user it really is good lhone witb good design. LG tried hard.
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Exactly! Numbers certainly don't lie...

I kinda wish anandtech do all flagship phones reviews, they seem to be the only one out there that actually understand the stuffs inside modern cell phones :-|

nap007 said:
I kinda wish anandtech do all flagship phones reviews, they seem to be the only one out there that actually understand the stuffs inside modern cell phones :-|
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Anandtech are buyed peoples. They said 7hour web browsing for nexus 4 where mine only could do 3hours and 30min.
Dont trust them they are buyed peoples

If you received your G3, share your impressions here

Hello xda users,
Most of us are waiting this phone and want this phone. And of course before buying we should know some information about it, camera, display, battery life, etc. I was thinking about battery life of this phone, 3000mAh is enough for qhd screen, I know LG did some tricks about battery life, but anyway, dunno if will be ok for 1 day usage. I've seen other threads are allready open, Tmobile users, UK users, Indian users, etc, but will be awesome if those who received G3 will share here impressions, pro and cons of this device, will be very useful for many users to find more information about this phone :fingers-crossed:

I have a South Korea version of 3GB ram.
I'm not good at English
So I will summary for you by using 3 point.
1. QHD is overspec.
Almost Koreans think so too.
G3 has animation framedrop when window is changed than G2 (I have used G2)
But it is not serious for use.
2. Good Design
Almost Korean has same mind.
In my think, Design forgives all problem.
Ecstatic.
3. High Temperature
the cause is QHD. SD801 is want.
Power button is heated. Oh my Summer......
Nevertheless, launching sale record or populor of G3 is more hot than SGS5 in Korea.
I think it seems like victory of design.
(GS5 is called skin pore in Korea.)
Although There is a reason like Very cheap price for launching sale. (Limited period. But sgs5 has also sale at the same time)

KR LUCKY GOLDSTAR said:
I have a South Korea version of 3GB ram.
I'm not good at English
So I will summary for you by using 3 point.
1. QHD is overspec.
Almost Koreans think so too.
G3 has animation framedrop when window is changed than G2 (I have used G2)
But it is not serious for use.
2. Good Design
Almost Korean has same mind.
In my think, Design forgives all problem.
Ecstatic.
3. High Temperature
the cause is QHD. SD801 is want.
Power button is heated. Oh my Summer......
Nevertheless, launching sale record or populor of G3 is more hot than SGS5 in Korea.
I think it seems like victory of design.
(GS5 is called skin pore in Korea.)
Although There is a reason like Very cheap price for launching sale. (Limited period. But sgs5 has also sale at the same time)
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Sir, thanks for info. How is battery life? You said you had G2, how is compare to G2?

Mr.Greg said:
Sir, thanks for info. How is battery life? You said you had G2, how is compare to G2?
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I cant test it myself. Now My g3 have become a brick by my fault. Moreover I cant find F400S firmware....
But people say g3 has a new battery saving skill.
So it is scored good point by some reviewer.

I'm also a Korean user of G3, but wanted to share a different info about G3.
In South Korea, LG actually spread the G3 almost near $100 and 50K ppl actually bought this phone only after the launch, which was at May 28.
After that, lots of people talked about its' spec and negative stuffs.
1. QHD display.
Some people(but many) said QHD is overspec. Lg setted the sharpening too high that letters were too sharpy. But, seeing the websites in PC version was amazing. Also, people said some have 'yellowish' displays. Well, most phones were to blueish and the color temp was too high, and people are thinking that this was the normal value, but, our monitors in PCs' color temperture is the same as G3, and people are seeing the yellowish colors. However, there are people who have a more yellowish displays.
2. Battery
3K mAh battery was a big battery, however, playing a movie stimuneously, ran 8 hours of battery life. However, light users usually uses for 24 hours or more. Playing movies or games will dramatically decrease battery life. QHD display consumes lots of battery life.
3. Temperature
Few people experiences high temperature on just internet surfing.
4. Design
G3 is the best design ever and Gold is the best
5. Camera
DSLR uses 300 ppi to take a picture, but G3 uses 72 ppi, which compresses the pixels. Seeing in normal or zoom-out view is pretty, but you'll see compressed pixels when you zoom in.
- Overall(in my view)
Now, I want to say about what I felt about G3. The design is very pretty. The size of the phone is same as Note 2. The grap of the phone is better than Note 2. Gold is pretty, and Black is also pretty, but if you want to have some cases on your G3, white is the winner, cuz black and gold have very few options to wear some cases.
My display have no yellowish colors, no vertical lines, decent temperature, long battery life. I think I got the normal one. I am very happy to get G3 and I'm satisfied that I have no deflects on my phone as others have a lot. Happy Happy~

Skynogi, Sir, how are photos in low light?
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"SG5 is called skin pore in Korea."
Hahaha this just made my day!.
Also, thank you for sharing your thoughts goldstar.
Sent from my Xperia Z1

Well, this is all not very positive, i think i will reconsider buying one. Thank you guys for your thougts
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How is the performance? Do you experience any lags or stuttering?
Thanks

Korea version bought in HK yesterday, F400K. The below review is not positive, but I really think i have a defect version. But my seller is refusing to let me compare with a different one, so I can't tell if it is a hardware or software issue.
* screen is gorgeous, although the sample video supplied by LG is way over sharpened, they still look nice, better than nexus 5
* camera quality is better, don't know about the laser, but definitely focusing faster and more accurate than nexus 5
* the phone holds very well and you don't feel it that much bigger compared to nexus 5 when holding, the buttons at the back are actually not bad, and you don't really need them a lot with the knock on/off feature.
* The phone lags big time compared to nexus 5. I can type much faster than the words showing up. It is so annoying that I wanted to go back to my old nexus 5. It is not so notable with the default LG keyboard, but I am using the google pinyin keyboard and it is slow as hell when typing Chinese. The same input method is butter smooth on nexus 5. I uninstalled all of the korean apps that i could and tried to stop every single process without any luck.
* Battery is not good although it maybe too early to tell. I used auto brightness with the level set to around 60(the level seems to also effect the overall auto brighness). No heavy use, just normal texting, browsing, and 15 minutes maps/gps. A full charge went down to 20% with 1.5 hours screen on time. It was on battery for about 16 hours. I had to charge it today, next time i will report with a proper screenshot. I suspect it may have something to do with korea radio running on HK LTE nextwork.

Oh dear....this is not what I wanted to hear.

saveferris said:
Oh dear....this is not what I wanted to hear.
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As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow

I'll save judgement
This lag when typing probably isn't "normal," it'd be nice if he could get his hands on another one.

catbear said:
As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow
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Sir, thanks for your small review, and post here tomorrow battery life. Also, can you do some photos in low light and see how is quality?

From what I have read so far battery life seems to be the same as the Z1, which is decent for a 2k display, but I would have preferred to have a a 1080p display with sick battery life
Sent from my Xperia Z1

remember these are the first batch..they will fix them along the way

catbear said:
As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow
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Thank you for your review. Especially since I also have a nexus 5 which is hard to beat, only the camera is crap. Is the camera better then the nexus 5 camera? Focus is off at 7 out of 10 on nexus 5.
Anyway, your device must be faulty and if not...well then LG is done after delivering such peace of s*** I hope you can get your hands on another one.
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catbear said:
As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow
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Yes but none of the reviews/experiences in this thread are really good/positive.
Hoping for more first hand experience, but I am not too excited any more.
Thank you for your responses to all who posted their perspective on here, and please keep on sharing your thoughts!

Fir3blade said:
Yes but none of the reviews/experiences in this thread are really good/positive.
Hoping for more first hand experience, but I am not too excited any more.
Thank you for your responses to all who posted their perspective on here, and please keep on sharing your thoughts!
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I'd reserve judgment until we see some first hand experiences in EU/US. From the sounds of this thread, it sounds like LG rushed the G3 in Korean market and there are problems.

bobbarker2 said:
I'd reserve judgment until we see some first hand experiences in EU/US. From the sounds of this thread, it sounds like LG rushed the G3 in Korean market and there are problems.
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Sure, it's too early for judgment, but I doubt LG will be able to fix the issues.
This QHD screen is totally unnecessary, but will cause problems like lag, heat and less battery life.
Don't get me wrong, I own a G2 and want the G3 so bad...

Anand tech review on g3. Not a winner on the screen..?

http://home.anandtech.com/show/8169/the-lg-g3-review
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Everyone says the jump from 1080 to 1440p isn't noticeable. I say that's dumb and it depends on the person.

when i had the 855 the screen is absolutely gorgeous. i think the reviewers are on drugs. yeah it may not be out of this world because displays today are so nice. but the difference is immediate i don't care what anyone says lol. i learned reviews are subjective. only way is to try it yourself.

One thing for sure the g3 is definitely the flawed beauty every one in love with, the device has glaring weaknesses yet many reviewers still ultimately like it despite fully acknowledging it's ugly side

nap007 said:
One thing for sure the g3 is definitely the flawed beauty every one in love with, the device has glaring weaknesses yet many reviewers still ultimately like it despite fully acknowledging it's ugly side
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The g3 is fine. Just shut up. We acknowledge its weaknesses. Every phone has them!

Lostatsea23 said:
Everyone says the jump from 1080 to 1440p isn't noticeable. I say that's dumb and it depends on the person.
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Anandtech says it is noticeable to a fault.
Over sharpness
Throttling
Display auto dimming
Like other reviews and users noted, Anandtech says the G3 would have been the closest to perfect device yet with a good 1080p display. The Qhd hurts overall performance rather than helps.

rushless said:
Anandtech says it is noticeable to a fault.
Over sharpness
Throttling
Display auto dimming
Like other reviews and users noted, Anandtech says the G3 would have been the closest to perfect device yet with a good 1080p display. The Qhd hurts overall performance rather than helps.
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Also came to same conclusion as most. The top Android phones are so close that they are basically even. Each has good points and bad. Just depends on how you as an individual rate the pros and cons.
I've had the m8.
I liked the build quality, speakers were great and screen was good. Camera sucked for anything but Internet posting. Then I realized (unlike most kids) that not everyone wants to listen to my music . So I use headphones in public and Bluetooth in car. So those boomsound bezels were pointless. And I really missed qi charging.
I had the S5
Screen was lovely. Camera was good and water resistance was nice. But I hated how it felt in my hand. And it only came with 16gb at AT&T.
LG G3
I don't have my us model. But my friend has the Korean version. My total time with it is a few hours at work. So not a great review. But I Love the way it feels in hand. Feels premium. Love the screen size. Screen to me is as good as the S5 or the M8. Was plenty bright for me indoors and out. (does have more glare than the S5, but not horrible if you're looking straight on).
I like a bright screen and 70 to 75% was perfect for me. And I never saw it dim. Maybe it does at 90 to 100%,but that's too bright for me anyway.
Halo is there. But didn't bother me really. He says with Nova it's a non issue, but it had stock launcher when I used it.
To sum up.
For me the LG G3 hits more of the right spots for me. My opinion may change once I get mine. But he loves his, and I really enjoyed the time I used it.

Anandtech reviewed a preproduction Korean model. Many of the issues they had with the screen have been fixed in the production International model.

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Anandtech reviewed a preproduction Korean model. Many of the issues they had with the screen have been fixed in the production International model.
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The Korean models aren't all preproduction lol. People keep saying that. The early review units were as in the day of announcement. All G3s are the same now and have been fixed via a firmware update

Lostatsea23 said:
The Korean models aren't all preproduction lol. People keep saying that. The early review units were as in the day of announcement. All G3s are the same now and have been fixed via a firmware update
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Uh, duh? Saying they reviewed a preproduction Korean model does not imply that ALL Korean models are preproduction - just the one they got like every other review copy. Reading comprehension...

I always appreciate Anand and his reviews. That said, I'm still buying the phone, as my review is the most important.
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Semantics said:
I always appreciate Anand and his reviews. That said, I'm still buying the phone, as my review is the most important.
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My thoughts exactly. I have been reading so many reviews and watching video reviews. Most love the phone...... Some acknowledged that they had pre production models and were waiting for the production models and would review them again. Most of the people that have the phone are giving it a thumbs up. I will get the AT&T model and do my own personal review.

I keep seeing people dinging on the battery life, but battery life is such a relative measure. For me, it just needs to get me to the end of the day, I plug my phone into a charger when i go to sleep. I've also got a 1+ hour commute in each direction, so I attach my device to a 2A charger in my car for the trip, which makes a big difference.
Plus I guarantee someone's going to come up with a larger battery for the thing, that's the nice part about removable batteries.
Anyway, I'm more concerned with the other aspects of the QHD screen, including app compatibility. Also wondering how HDX Vudu and Netflix content will look and if the G3 attempts to sharpen/upscale that content or not.

Please use the existing thread HERE
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AnandTech Review - Moto X (2nd gen)

Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review

joelteixeira said:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
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Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.

dstr72 said:
Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.
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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.

noobsquared said:
I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
Sent from my Nexus 4

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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.

joelteixeira said:
+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
Sent from my Nexus 4

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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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You're absolutely right, having two devices is exactly the problem to me. And don't get me wrong, when I talk to much about the camera maybe seems like I want a fantastic and ultimate quality camera but something on par with GS4 that is two years old now or more would be perfect fine to me. I'm complaining but in the end I think I'll do get a moto x. Like we said before, it's not the best android available but when you see the big picture it's a really great and balanced set.

Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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markwebb said:
Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?

matt99017d said:
What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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0.0 said:
He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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True. But if sales are slow like last year I wouldn't be surprised at a slight reduction to move them during the holidays to compete with you know who.
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The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.

Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one

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Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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If pocketnow tested the battery by actually using the phone and not by scripts (which I presume he did), then that just shows that running custom made scripts brings in some other factors that will kill battery. I can't trust reviews solely basing battery on scripts. I've read many reports saying that the phone was used and lasted for over 10 hours or whatever
Thank you for bringing more good news on this phone and its battery lol
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Using scripts to test battery life is fine, but were they really expecting? If you keep two phones on with roughly the same SoC and roughly the same screensize, but one has a larger battery, of course the one with the larger battery is going to win.
I'm more interested in knowing how the Moto X is optimized. When the screen is off, how frequent are the wakelocks? How is the ROM tailored to optimize the phone's battery life when it's not in use?
Does anyone know a site that runs those kinds of tests?

noobsquared said:
Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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I just read the review and it wasn't a ringing endorsement as they had some concerns expressed towards the end of the article:
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/18/moto-x-2014-review
Is there another I am missing?
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joelteixeira said:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review
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I used to like anandtech because they could give real world meaning to synthetic benchmarks. I miss the user experience. Even the verge, which always seems very apple biased rated the moto x 8.8 (vs iphone6 9.0), when they verge likes an android phone that much you know it must be good (even if it doesn't have *the best* camera)

Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.

cipsaz said:
Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.
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but... they gave it an 8.9 lol
edit: from listening to the review, they're only disappointed with the camera. and, like he says in the vid, their readers actually liked last years cam. i won't say i like the cam on my current one, but it's not total crap either. it's usable.
edit: and the battery. but he ends it with saying he's purchased it haha.
i personally think battery and camera can be slightly underwhelming considering the package as a whole. my only complaint deals more with the screen but we'll see how that turns out.

sogrady said:
The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.
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Ever since I ported my Google voice number over to a real number. I use moto voice non stop while driving. You can kind of make it work on other phones if you do the okay Google on any screen but you have to have it plugged in and have it set to never turn the screen off while charging. There are apps that will read out your texts but none seem as refined as moto assists features. If the next nexus somehow gets moto voice I'll probably end up with that but I'll probably sacrifice battery to get the next moto x. From reading. It seems it's on par with the 2013 moto x at least.
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Early battery life test

http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-battery-life-test-nothings-changed-since-the-G3_id68951
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Exactly what I posted hours ago on another thread. Hahaha.
It's cool though. This deserves it's own thread actually.
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Skip within the video to 13m:50sec and they pretty much say the same. The G4 does not beat the S6 at least at the moment of testing the pre production units. Hopefully they are still tweaking the OS to get the battery lasting longer.
https://youtu.be/62uub0cHGEM
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Does anyone know if the G3 batteries will work in the G4 or did they change them just enough to not allow compatibility?

LaTropa64 said:
Does anyone know if the G3 batteries will work in the G4 or did they change them just enough to not allow compatibility?
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It can't, unfortunately.

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It can't, unfortunately.
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Dang. That's kind of lame considering they are both 3000mah.
I would understand if the new phone had a larger battery but since it doesn't it kind of seems like a move meant to make those of us that have extra G3 batteries buy even more new batts.

I'm not sure how the S6 could have better battery life, I had it for a week and it was worse than my G3. Horrible standby time. I was hoping the G4 would be better than the G3.
I also saw a post that the G3 battery has small tabs that prevent it from fitting into the G4.

LaTropa64 said:
Dang. That's kind of lame considering they are both 3000mah.
I would understand if the new phone had a larger battery but since it doesn't it kind of seems like a move meant to make those of us that have extra G3 batteries buy even more new batts.
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Makes sense since they want more money, so why make it cross-gen compatible? Don't think any phone has accessories or whatnot what work for more than the current generation of devices. It is lame since they have the same size battery, but that's how it is... sadly. :/

FluxionFluff said:
Makes sense since they want more money, so why make it cross-gen compatible? Don't think any phone has accessories or whatnot what work for more than the current generation of devices. It is lame since they have the same size battery, but that's how it is... sadly. :/
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iPhone accessories last for two years, most of the time.

geoff5093 said:
I'm not sure how the S6 could have better battery life, I had it for a week and it was worse than my G3. Horrible standby time. I was hoping the G4 would be better than the G3.
I also saw a post that the G3 battery has small tabs that prevent it from fitting into the G4.
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It makes sense given the source. They are not known for their independent reviews. We also don't know their methodology. Their test involved some sort of video playback until the battery died. Given the AMOLED display in the S6 where energy use is proportion to the number of pixels being used and what color (white uses significantly more energy). So if the playback involved night time scenes the S6 would last longer where as if it was bright daytime scenes the G4 would last longer. Neither one would be a far comparison. I highly doubt their battery tests involved real world use given what people have truly been getting on the S6.
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Phone Arena's findings contradict what almost everyone else who has used the G4 has said about the battery life. I'll wait until the phone is officially out and GSMArena posts their review to get a more accurate view of the G4's battery life because they have a published methodology and their battery life database allows you to set custom usage patterns. It's not perfect, but it's better than PA's black box test results that inexplicably put the S6 edge's battery life over the G2.

Droid-Life Tim-O-Tato posted a comparison, but commented that the battery life is good, better than the S6.

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http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-battery-life-test-nothings-changed-since-the-G3_id68951
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We'll see if LG can improve this, but if the battery is comparable to the G3 that means it's noticeably worse than my G2 & not significantly better than even the Optimus G...
Edit: Checked the battery life of the S6 on xda & I'm seeing less than 4.5hrs of SOT for users. I wonder how much these newer phones would benefit from 1080P?
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I have no idea how the battery life on the G4 will be like, but I am not sure about phonearenas testing methods.
They have the iphone 6 plus @ 6.5 hrs and the S6 at over 7 hours.
The 6 plus has excellent battery life.. So I'm not sure how their testing works, but I dont think it always translates to real world use.

LaTropa64 said:
Dang. That's kind of lame considering they are both 3000mah.
I would understand if the new phone had a larger battery but since it doesn't it kind of seems like a move meant to make those of us that have extra G3 batteries buy even more new batts.
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Even the size appears similar, the connectors are different.

Here's an article giving us hope for the G4 battery life. Be sure to read the comments on the bottom of the link as well.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...phablets-available-impressive-camera#comments
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My battery has always been pretty good on my G3, I dont know whether I was just extremely lucky with the battery but I almost always get 10 - 14 hrs use.

Ace42 said:
We'll see if LG can improve this, but if the battery is comparable to the G3 that means it's noticeably worse than my G2 & not significantly better than even the Optimus G...
Edit: Checked the battery life of the S6 on xda & I'm seeing less than 4.5hrs of SOT for users. I wonder how much these newer phones would benefit from 1080P?
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I consistently get 4-4.5+ SOT and get through a day easily. WiFi always on, and both wifi calling/volte off
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FluxionFluff said:
Makes sense since they want more money, so why make it cross-gen compatible? Don't think any phone has accessories or whatnot what work for more than the current generation of devices. It is lame since they have the same size battery, but that's how it is... sadly. :/
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You are correct in that it makes sense for them to make them non-compatible so as to make more money, but I still find it to be a rather mean spirited thing for a company to do. I wish that these companies would strive to satisfy the consumer COMPLETELY. They would be known for being a simply and easy-to-work-with company, and their sales would be terrific. Instead, they nickle and dime. But I suppose there's not much we can do about the matter. It is what it is.

kamend said:
You are correct in that it makes sense for them to make them non-compatible so as to make more money, but I still find it to be a rather mean spirited thing for a company to do. I wish that these companies would strive to satisfy the consumer COMPLETELY. They would be known for being a simply and easy-to-work-with company, and their sales would be terrific. Instead, they nickle and dime. But I suppose there's not much we can do about the matter. It is what it is.
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The only thing that seems to be constant, least in recent years, is that everyone (besides Apple, as their ports have always been different from Android and probably Windows too) uses microUSB ports. How long that'll be the case, who knows? At some point, USB Type-C may become the new standard. Don't think I've seen any phones on the market use that. Only thing I've seen uses that is the new Macbook.

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The only thing that seems to be constant, least in recent years, is that everyone (besides Apple, as their ports have always been different from Android and probably Windows too) uses microUSB ports. How long that'll be the case, who knows? At some point, USB Type-C may become the new standard. Don't think I've seen any phones on the market use that. Only thing I've seen uses that is the new Macbook.
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I hope so. I'm kind of surprised none of the new flagships have it since the Chromebook Pixel and the new Macbook have it now.
One cable to rule them all. USB-C will be it... for awhile.