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hi all. Maybe is a stupid questions but I want to know if I root my phone do I will get any official update? (see attachment)
No, you wont be able to get the over-the-air updates anymore if you root.
However, if you flash a custom rom like cyanogenmod the devs usualy incorporate the ota update into their roms. So either way you'd still get the patches
so that mean in order to get the updates over-the-air, i have to role back to unroot nandroid backup, do the updates, than root again.. is that correct?
I thought I read in a recent thread that if you rooted, but kept the stock Tom
You would still get OTA update. Can anyone clarify?
if you have stock bootloader and stock rom but are rooted you will still receive OTA updates, if you flash amons boodloader, and custom roms you will not receive updates.
just remeber that once you update you will lose root and will have to re-apply the root, when it has been released. for that update!
No i mean flash a custom rom (like cyanogenmod) and each time there is an OTA update cyanogen will patch it to his rom. So pretty much flash a custom rom and keep it updated because they will include any OTA updates that are out already
r8zer said:
if you have stock bootloader and stock rom but are rooted you will still receive OTA updates, if you flash amons boodloader, and custom roms you will not receive updates.
just remeber that once you update you will lose root and will have to re-apply the root, when it has been released. for that update!
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ok, so, can you give me one root information, in order to keep my updates over the air, please?
what do you mean give you one root information, if u unlock bootloader, via fastboot, then use pauls root over at modaco, u will still have stock boot loader and custom rom, all root does is give u superuser, as long as you do not flash a custom recovery or custom rom you will be fine.
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what do you mean give you one root information, if u unlock bootloader, via fastboot, then use pauls root over at modaco, u will still have stock boot loader and custom rom, all root does is give u superuser, as long as you do not flash a custom recovery or custom rom you will be fine.
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take a look at my fist post: I unlock bootloader via fastboot, I applied root but I did not used Paul root, and also I don't have a custom rom. I have the attachment on top of the page..... everybody get me confused.... can somebody clarified me?
all you show in top post is a pic of the update 1, ERE 27 which to date is the newest one google has released,
right, u got stock bootloader and stock rom, but u r rooted u will still get OTA updates as only custom roms block OTA updates!.
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all you show in top post is a pic of the update 1, ERE 27 which to date is the newest one google has released,
right, u got stock bootloader and stock rom, but u r rooted u will still get OTA updates as only custom roms block OTA updates!.
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which means 'm still able to get OTA updates, correct?
This conversation was very frustrating to read.
Yes you will get OTA updates, but you will get the same updates much sooner by using Cyanogen's ROM.
I have no idea what motivation you would have to root your N1 and void the warranty if you are just going to get OTA updates and not take advantage of any of the benefits that root enables... (The most desirable of which is a custom recovery allowing the application of a custom ROM)
Diceman4 said:
This conversation was very frustrating to read.
Yes you will get OTA updates, but you will get the same updates much sooner by using Cyanogen's ROM.
I have no idea what motivation you would have to root your N1 and void the warranty if you are just going to get OTA updates and not take advantage of any of the benefits that root enables... (The most desirable of which is a custom recovery allowing the application of a custom ROM)
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I feel sorry if these conversation it becomes frustrating, but look my reason:
1. no warranty, in my country is not available yet, it sales on black market
2. before to root, I did not made a nandroid backup, I done after root
3. I'm running Alpha 10 Desire Rom for N1, and I want to make sure if I'm going to roll back to my nandroid backup, I will be able to get OTA updates
one more time I do apologize.
I have galaxy s4 with stock room from sprint. I had rooted it and installed twrp custom recovery. I was trying to update the phone with OTA update but it rebooted to twrp and that is it. I tried looking for update/zip to install but nothing, update check says it was updated.
Did the update still install somehow?
If not, Where is it downloaded to update or recommend an update method?
I am also concerned about losing root. How can I avoid that in the future?
mmfxda said:
I have galaxy s4 with stock room from sprint. I had rooted it and installed twrp custom recovery. I was trying to update the phone with OTA update but it rebooted to twrp and that is it. I tried looking for update/zip to install but nothing, update check says it was updated.
Did the update still install somehow?
If not, Where is it downloaded to update or recommend an update method?
I am also concerned about losing root. How can I avoid that in the future?
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Hi,
You have your own forum.
Look HERE
malybru said:
Hi,
You have your own forum.
Look HERE
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Oh, I did not know. thanks.
Android 5.0 (Lollipop) Bootloader and KitKat Compatibility
Everyone wants Lollipop, however it is worth considering some of the possible consequences of upgrading via OTA update.
Flashable zip of Android 5.0.2 'Soak Test' now available and boots with KitKat Bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-retail-brazil-lollipop-soak-test-t2998793
Downgrading to KitKat also possible even with Lollipop Bootloader.
Bootloader:
A new Bootloader (BL) will almost certainly be is included in the OTA update. It is also very likely no KitKat Kernel, stock or custom will be able to boot properly with the 5.0 BL. Perhaps the Kernel DEVs can find a workaround.
Root: (DONE)
It may take some time to gain root access on Lollipop as on other devices this has required a custom Kernel. A custom kernel itself may require kernel sources to be released - something that has taken weeks / months in the past.
Chainfire releases Android 5.0 Root for Moto G (2013) (All Models)
In addition; apps that use root access in KitKat, require further development to have functional root access in Lollipop.
Xposed Framework:
Developer has said he will wait for CyanogenMod based on Lollipop before properly starting development of an ART version of Xposed. CM12 may take a few weeks to release. Expect to do without Xposed for at least a month, probably longer since root is also required (see above.) Related: Alternatives to popular Xposed Modules
Custom Recovery:
This has not been an issue before, but it is always possible a new Bootloader could break compatibility with existing Custom Recoveries. Obviously, you would not be able to restore a CWM / TWRP backup without a functional custom recovery; but even then, it is unlikely you will [not] be able to boot your KitKat backup. CWM unaffected, TWRP not fully supported yet.
Custom ROMs:
This is another area that could be affected by a new Bootloader. It is unknown if existing custom ROMs will require new Kernels / system changes in order to work with the new BL - something that could take days, weeks or months. CyanogenMod 12 (Lollipop) for Moto G (Falcon) now available and does not appear to require a new BL.
Performance:
Currently the performance difference between KitKat and Lollipop is unknown. If the first release of Lollipop for Moto G has performance issues, you may be unable to revert back to stock KitKat.Possible solution:
Wait for a flashable zip [NOT OTA Update zip] of Stock Moto G Lollipop ROM - this would mean your Bootloader remains at it's current version and potentially allowing you to change 'back and forth' between Stock KitKat and Stock Lollipop. However, it is currently unknown if the newer BL is a requirement for Android 5.0 Kernels. Flashable zip of Android 5.0.2 'Soak Test' now available and boots with KitKat Bootloader.
That is what I thought, since something like that happened because of the upgrade from JB to KK. Taking all of this into account, I'm not sure to upgrade immediately when the OTA comes out, maybe I'll try to still alive waiting for reviews from someone who dares to OTA right then.
You can be pretty sure it'll bring a bootloader update too because of all the fundamental changes lollipop brings in almost all areas of the OS. Major relase, as was gingerbread -> ICS.
It's pretty safe to say that once you upgrade, it won't be easy to downgrade, if at all possible... Many changes are in the security area and everything is getting tightened up a lot... Loads of tempting things we'll get in this upgrade, yes, but we'll have to give up much of what we're used to (in terms of rooting/etc), at least for a little while. I'll also wait until the dust settles a bit and it's clearer on where we stand with the upgrade once it gets released.
nice info
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Android 5.0 Bootloader and KitKat Compatibility
Everyone wants Lollipop, however it is worth considering some of the possible consequences of upgrading via OTA update.
Bootloader:
A new Bootloader (BL) will almost certainly be included in the OTA update. It is also very likely no KitKat Kernel, stock or custom will be able to boot properly with the 5.0 BL. Perhaps the kernel DEVs can find a workaround.
Root:
It may take some time to gain root access on Lolipop as on other devices this has required a custom Kernel. A custom kernel itself may require kernel sources to be released - something that has taken weeks / months in the past.
Custom Recovery:
This has not been an issue before, but it is always possible a new Bootloader could break compatibility with existing Custom Recoveries.
Performance:
Currently the performance difference between KitKat and Lollipop is unknown. If the first release of Lollipop has performance issues on Moto G, you may be unable to revert back to stock KitKat.
Alternative solution:
Wait for a flashable zip of Stock Moto G Lollipop ROM - this would mean your Bootloader remains at it's current version and potentially allowing you to change between Stock KitKat and Stock Lollipop. However, it is currently unknown if the newer BL is a requirement for Android 5.0 Kernels.
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UUUUUUHHHHHHHH iam afraight. a little. who needs bootloaders. i dont.
juanchotazo99 said:
You can be pretty sure it'll bring a bootloader update too because of all the fundamental changes lollipop brings in almost all areas of the OS. Major relase, as was gingerbread -> ICS.
It's pretty safe to say that once you upgrade, it won't be easy to downgrade, if at all possible... Many changes are in the security area and everything is getting tightened up a lot... Loads of tempting things we'll get in this upgrade, yes, but we'll have to give up much of what we're used to (in terms of rooting/etc), at least for a little while. I'll also wait until the dust settles a bit and it's clearer on where we stand with the upgrade once it gets released.
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Will you be able to wait when you see that little notification saying there's a new system update awaiting you?? I'll eat my nails until then!
Can i still get the OTA update even though my bootloader is unlocked and rooted? (Kitkat 4.4.4.)
Drift0r said:
Can i still get the OTA update even though my bootloader is unlocked and rooted? (Kitkat 4.4.4.)
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I don't think so....
Drift0r said:
Can i still get the OTA update even though my bootloader is unlocked and rooted? (Kitkat 4.4.4.)
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Bootloader doesn't matter. Root doesn't matter. What does matter is the software on your phone that checks for OTA updates. As long as that is functioning; you will get the notification.
You can ignore the update notification and will not be forced to install it.
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Can i still get the OTA update even though my bootloader is unlocked and rooted? (Kitkat 4.4.4.)
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The only real thing you need to install the OTA is stock recovery, doesnt matter bootloader or root, only stock recovery to install the OTA! :good:
As always, very informative thread @lost101.
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Bootloader doesn't matter. Root doesn't matter. What does matter is the software on your phone that checks for OTA updates. As long as that is functioning; you will get the notification.
You can ignore the update notification and will not be forced to install it.
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The only real thing you need to install the OTA is stock recovery, doesnt matter bootloader or root, only stock recovery to install the OTA! :good:
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How do I know what recovery I am on? I entered recovery and it is like this http://i.gyazo.com/1c3fa4923e85db7042ad6e36b97a31cc.png then when I click recovery on that screen I am on CWM, does that mean I can't or can do it?
Also I am not using any roms or anything, just rooted it for Xposed.
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How do I know what recovery I am on? I entered recovery and it is like this http://i.gyazo.com/1c3fa4923e85db7042ad6e36b97a31cc.png then when I click recovery on that screen I am on CWM, does that mean I can't or can do it?
Also I am not using any roms or anything, just rooted it for Xposed.
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You need stock recovery and rid of xposedand any modules
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The only real thing you need to install the OTA is stock recovery, doesnt matter bootloader or root, only stock recovery to install the OTA! :good:
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And another real thing is pure/stock system. Which means no system apps were deleted or frizzed no mods were installed through custom recovery no custom kernels no luckyputcher stuff. And I think you have to delete xposed framework (manually via xposed installer).
And a lot of users think that it's enough just to flash back stock recovery and install ota. But then they are just wondering why is it can not install. So, untouched system block is mandatory for applying ota as well as stock recovery.
Root, unlocked bootloader and custom boot logo are things you could keep.
Is stock recovery and stock firmware same? If not how do i get stock recovery back?
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And another real thing is pure/stock system. Which means no system apps were deleted or frizzed no mods were installed through custom recovery no custom kernels no luckyputcher stuff. And I think you have to delete xposed framework (manually via xposed installer).
And a lot of users think that it's enough just to flash back stock recovery and install ota. But then they are just wondering why is it can not install. So, untouched system block is mandatory for applying ota as well as stock recovery.
Root, unlocked bootloader and custom boot logo are things you could keep.
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How about if you are using Adaway?
I know this will change something to the file hosts.
Do you need to get this original hosts file as well?
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How do I know what recovery I am on? I entered recovery and it is like this http://i.gyazo.com/1c3fa4923e85db7042ad6e36b97a31cc.png then when I click recovery on that screen I am on CWM, does that mean I can't or can do it?
Also I am not using any roms or anything, just rooted it for Xposed.
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I'd reccomend to you this: when the OTA comes up, restore stock 4.4.2 firmware, then OTA to 4.4.4 and then to 5.0... Or if you find a 4.4.4 firmware just flash it and then OTA to 5.0... But the best you could do is to install the Lollipop OTA in a fresh new installed system.
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And another real thing is pure/stock system. Which means no system apps were deleted or frizzed no mods were installed through custom recovery no custom kernels no luckyputcher stuff. And I think you have to delete xposed framework (manually via xposed installer).
And a lot of users think that it's enough just to flash back stock recovery and install ota. But then they are just wondering why is it can not install. So, untouched system block is mandatory for applying ota as well as stock recovery.
Root, unlocked bootloader and custom boot logo are things you could keep.
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Yes, maybe the best thing is to backup everything and restore all things to stock... then OTA to Lollipop... :good:
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I'd reccomend to you this: when the OTA comes up, restore stock 4.4.2 firmware, then OTA to 4.4.4 and then to 5.0... Or if you find a 4.4.4 firmware just flash it and then OTA to 5.0... But the best you could do is to install the Lollipop OTA in a fresh new installed system.
Yes, maybe the best thing is to backup everything and restore all things to stock... then OTA to Lollipop... :good:
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Almost always it is enough to flash only system img files without erasing userdara. It should rewrite system block so it becames stock
MarckozZ said:
I'd reccomend to you this: when the OTA comes up, restore stock 4.4.2 firmware, then OTA to 4.4.4 and then to 5.0... Or if you find a 4.4.4 firmware just flash it and then OTA to 5.0... But the best you could do is to install the Lollipop OTA in a fresh new installed system.
Yes, maybe the best thing is to backup everything and restore all things to stock... then OTA to Lollipop... :good:
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How do I restore it to 4.4.3? Im currently downloading this file to flash via mfastboot RET-EU-SS_4.4.3_KXB21.14-L1.31_cid7_CFC_1FF.xml.zip from this guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219 would this work?
my phone moto g 4g lte - xt1039
Drift0r said:
How do I restore it to 4.4.3? Im currently downloading this file to flash via mfastboot RET-EU-SS_4.4.3_KXB21.14-L1.31_cid7_CFC_1FF.xml.zip from this guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219 would this work?
my phone moto g 4g lte - xt1039
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You can try the guide I've done with some help from other users here at XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/guide-restore-moto-firmware-gpe-t2914884
Finally ! Straight from Google DEVS
"razor" for Nexus 7 [2013] (Wi-Fi) 5.1.1 (LMY47V)
Thank You
Just flashed it. I wasn't having any issues, but I hope it fixes problems for others.
just lou said:
Just flashed it. I wasn't having any issues, but I hope it fixes problems for others.
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Can you check if the bootloader is still 04.05 or it changed?
I heard, it is the same
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Can you check if the bootloader is still 04.05 or it changed?
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Its 4.05 bootloader still. Somehow in the zip its called bootloader-flo-flo-04.05.img
There's a new kernel, some changes in the source. Its compiled March 21
Not much else changed
Has any one got the ota yet ?
@Vkk187
ofc not.
Flash the stock image with NRT and check "dirty flash" and that will not delete your apps and data.
Yet to unlock my BL ...I know it's simple . Will do it some day [emoji18]
AonI updated to 5.1 rooted stock via TWRP a couple weeks ago.
Today I just got this update notification for 5.1
Is today's notification for 5.1.1? Because it only says 5.1
Do we have a rooted stock file we can flash in TWRP?
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Do we have a rooted stock file we can flash in TWRP?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...my47v-root-t3098137/post60479181#post60479181
I just got the 5.1 update. It shows 5.1.1 as the Android version.
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I just completely flash-all every time a new build comes out as I do not know how to side load using NRT or TWRP (am I wasting my time on doing it this way). If someone could please explain to me how to side load I would be forever grateful. I have searched and cannot find clear instructions or walk through on side loading
Having read wugfresh page,it says Since lollipop,its hard to sideload OTA now. I myself try it last night with my rooted stock recovery,it fails to install the OTA from google,even if file has been downloaded automatically. Its harder to get OTA install smoothly nowadays especially if you on lollipop. No choice had full flash without wipe. And reroot again.
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Having read wugfresh page,it says Since lollipop,its hard to sideload OTA now. I myself try it last night with my rooted stock recovery,it fails to install the OTA from google,even if file has been downloaded automatically. Its harder to get OTA install smoothly nowadays especially if you on lollipop. No choice had full flash without wipe. And reroot again.
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Actually, it's just as easy sideloading as it's always been. The difference is that you can't sideload an OTA (or receive one in any way) if you've done any kind of alterations to the system. This includes rooting and/or flashing custom recoveries and kernels. Even if you unroot there are still residue alterations in your system, meaning you'll have to do a full system flash anyway.
It's worth mentioning that unlocking your bootloader does not prevent installing an OTA.
How is this version running compare to the 5.0?
Jaylex31 said:
How is this version running compare to the 5.0?
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Any versions of Android on the Nexus 7 2013 ran fine for me.
I have S8, I want to have stock Oreo but twrp & root. Will I receive OTA or not? If so how can this be done?
I'm just tired of custom rom, constantly wipe for update etc.
So just looking for stock but have twrp n root & OTA....
Many thanks
Anyone please..:crying:
alien_jiggy said:
Anyone please..:crying:
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You will need to flash your stock firmware again first. Then flash twrp and root after. You will not receive OTA updates so when update arrives you just flash manually.
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You will need to flash your stock firmware again first. Then flash twrp and root after. You will not receive OTA updates so when update arrives you just flash manually.
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Yes that's what I've gathered now. I'm actually on stock Oreo CRAP but not had update yet probably because I'm rooted.
Where can I get latest update & will I loose root if I update?
alien_jiggy said:
Yes that's what I've gathered now. I'm actually on stock Oreo CRAP but not had update yet probably because I'm rooted.
Where can I get latest update & will I loose root if I update?
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Yeah that's true, you won't receive ota while rooted.
https://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model
You can find latest stick firmware here. Latest oreo is CRC7.
If you update you will lose twrp/root. You will be fully stock.
Alternatively you can try a custom ROM
Yes looks that way but with custom Rom im just tired with full wipe when new releases are out..I guess I can't have everything
Thanks
alien_jiggy said:
Yes looks that way but with custom Rom im just tired with full wipe when new releases are out..I guess I can't have everything
Thanks
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You don't always need full wipe. You can dirty flash most updates.
Only need to wipe if it's a new base.
I rarely clean flash