Hey guys! I am new to Samsung coming from the LG G4.
Verizon is sending a warranty replacement Note 5 64gb but I was hell bent on the S7 Edge so I bought the S7 Edge full price thinking I can sell the Note 5 to recoup my money.
Before I left I figured I'd at least look at the Note 5 and actually impressed. The Edge apps are already wearing as unneeded. I only had the S7E for a few hours. The Edge also seems to take away from some screen space.
If I returned the Edge for the Note 5, would I really be missing anything? I think the SPEN would probably be more handy than the quick side widget.
Thoughts? I don't want to open the Note 5 unless I plan to keep it so I can't do a direct comparison.
The Samsung S7 Edge is my first Android based phone. I have been using IPhone since it's first release. Although I can't give a comparison based on the Note 5 as I have never used it, I can say that the Samsung s7 edge is the most amazing phone I have ever used in my life. This is coming from someone who just 1 week before laying hands on the phone swore he will never leave iPhone.
I should add that the s7 edge is water resistant, so you might want to at least take that factor into consideration.
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Hey guys! I am new to Samsung coming from the LG G4.
Verizon is sending a warranty replacement Note 5 64gb but I was hell bent on the S7 Edge so I bought the S7 Edge full price thinking I can sell the Note 5 to recoup my money.
Before I left I figured I'd at least look at the Note 5 and actually impressed. The Edge apps are already wearing as unneeded. I only had the S7E for a few hours. The Edge also seems to take away from some screen space.
If I returned the Edge for the Note 5, would I really be missing anything? I think the SPEN would probably be more handy than the quick side widget.
Thoughts? I don't want to open the Note 5 unless I plan to keep it so I can't do a direct comparison.
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Had the note. Abused it and rooted it, roms and everything. Jere are my views...
S7 edge is easier to hold, bigger battery, seems faster and quick. Camera is better and focusing is amazing. Waterproof but I haven't swam with it yet.
SD card slot is big for me as it has my entire mp3 library and pictures too.
I used the spen mainly for sharing pictures but I hardly used it for drawing stuff.
Up to your preference I guess.
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Hi, I had a Note 2 & a Note 3 and barely seemed to use the Spen. I went to a Note because I couldn't live with a small screen any longer. Once the iPhone 6+ came out I immediately headed back to Apple (being an Apple fan girl but always willing to live in iOS or Android world). All that being said, once I even started reading about or talking to friends about the S7 Edge, I knew I wanted it sight unseen. Pre-ordered it & got it 2 days ago. I haven't been able to put it down at all!it is so slick! The screen size is as large as the 6+ but the footprint is so much smaller. Other than the SPEN, what draws you specifically to the Note 5 that the S7 Edge couldn't provide? I'm even using a 200gb SanDisk microSD card. Much better than paying for a 128gb iPhone again.
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Wife has had the Note5 for several months, I just got the S7 Edge.
I almost got the Note 5 - reasons swayed to S7E:
- SD card - I need more space than the Note 5 provides, keep a bunch of photos, movies, etc., on my phone. I have a Samsung Pro+ 128GB SD card in the S7E.
- Can hold/use in one hand - I use my phone a lot w/one hand and the Note 5 is just too big to do that comfortably.
Those are the only reasons I didn't get a Note 5 for myself. I think it's one of the best phones I've used...fast, great camera, beautiful screen, SPen is actually useful, excellent battery life. It's a really nice device.
The older Notes were big but AFTER buying the S7E and looking at the Note 5, it literally is the same size as my G4 was width wise, but 5.7"
The Note they are sending me is 64gb. I normally carry a tablet for movies but 64gb will do me plenty fine. Memory isn't an issue for me.
I don't have a case yet since I still trying to decide what to keep but the S7E is slick. It is kind of hard to hold and my palms keep tapping buttons on the beveled edges.
Overall I really like it though. It seems much smoother than my G4.
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I hope this is not true!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Rumors-claim-no-Edge-variant-for-the-Galaxy-Note-5_id70740
I don't know what is scary. It doesn't impact our phones.
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I don't know what is scary. It doesn't impact our phones.
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Hi. That is correct. Although, if there are no more Edge phones in the future that could curtail development on this one at a more rapid rate. I was also concerned about this with respect to next phone I will buy, which is hopefully a continuation of the Edge series.
it's totally crazy
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Hi. That is correct. Although, if there are no more Edge phones in the future that could curtail development on this one at a more rapid rate. I was also concerned about this with respect to next phone I will buy, which is hopefully a continuation of the Edge series.
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I can't go back to a normal phone now iv used an Edge phone. It is wrong to not promote a phone properly then stop upgrading, Samsung fail.
I think Note Edge series will be replaced by S6 Edge plus. It will be 5.7' screen and edge screen on both sides.
I'll keep my Edge forever then!
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I think Note Edge series will be replaced by S6 Edge plus. It will be 5.7' screen and edge screen on both sides.
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But no S pen...
Face it. For good or for bad, we've got the very definition of a Frankenphone.
In spite of all the positive media attention and how quickly it sold out in every market they made it available, Samsung doesn't seem interested in make the Note Edge as we know it part of their yearly lineup.
They seem more interested in tinkering around with their own in-house mobile platform that is completely useless, clunky, and a waste. Oh, and don't forget smart watches - talk about sinking money and manpower into something that is a niche market at best.
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The more u see about the note 5, 5 edge (or s6 edge plus) scares me. I cant believe that the note edge was so under appreciated. I loved the hell out of mine. In fact regret getting rid of it especially if there will be no note edge 2. I traded mine for a nexus 6 thinking "in a few months the next version will be out and i will grab one"
The more i see about the s6 plus i am worried that there will be almost no edge function on anymore phones. The fact that the edge had an actual ton more use than the s6 edge really sucks if things are going to be the way they appear
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In my opinion S6E+ it only matters for the battle with iPhone. Samsung must take into account NE2.
Well, perhaps there is hope for those that need micro sd. Presumably battery can be pulled too.
https://news.yahoo.com/leak-galaxy-note-5-may-fix-biggest-complaint-134059110.html
I sure hope they do another note edge. I dont want a big s6 edge i want another note edge
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I think Note Edge series will be replaced by S6 Edge plus. It will be 5.7' screen and edge screen on both sides.
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And the more gimmicky nearly nonfunctional dual edges. SMH!!
Sadly the Note Edge is more functional than a phone with 2 edges, how the hell is this possible?? LMAO!!!
I hope we see a Note Edge 2 2nd-Q or 3rd-Q 2016
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But it seems as though by then and the direction the S6Edge+ and Note 5 are headed in I'll becoming a devoted LG Stylus user, where they don't remove parts and call it a upgrade, such as the microSD Slot and removable battery.
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Samsung if I wanted a to buy a iPhone I'd buy an iPhone or ChinAndroid iPhone, quit trying to force your competitors specs on us and call it a better experience and a upgrade, lack of a battery and microSD slot is not a gain no matter how you look at it.
Hey guys... I've had my gold platinum Edge+ for AT&T since Wednesday and I do like the phone. It looks stunning. But for some reason I'm considering going out today and exchanging it for the Note 5.
The Edge screen is cool but I'm already finding myself not using it a ton. I'm starting to wonder if I will get more use and value out of the S-Pen. Plus the Note 5 is cheaper.
Any opinions? Reasons why I should keep it? Any reasons why I should exchange it?
Thanks!
No reason to keep it if you're already doubting your choice a few days into getting a brand new phone. You'll probably be happier long-term if you switch to the Note 5 while you still can.
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To be honest, I don't expect to use the edge function a ton. But I love the feel of it in my hand and my pocket.
Best is the app that let's you launch your favorite app on the edge screen when your screen is off. Totally worth the Edge for this function alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3090255
I soley like the for the look and size. No functionality reasons really.
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I soley like the for the look and size. No functionality reasons really.
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Me too..Looks Awesome.
I think the Note is the better phone and I knew that going in but I wanted something different coming off 3 years on the note. Happy with my phone and she had me at hello lol
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I think the Note is the better phone and I knew that going in but I wanted something different coming off 3 years on the note. Happy with my phone and she had me at hello lol
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I wouldn't say the Note is better, it just has s-pen functionality. I never used the s-pen on my Note devices so the switch to the Edge+ has been awesome for me! The looks alone make it worth it for me lol.
Just as an update, I did try the Note 5 for a day and I got my Edge+ back. Before this, I had a regular S6. The Note simply felt like a larger version of that with the pen. I never use the pen so this phone is my keeper!
Thanks for the input guys.
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Just as an update, I did try the Note 5 for a day and I got my Edge+ back. Before this, I had a regular S6. The Note simply felt like a larger version of that with the pen. I never use the pen so this phone is my keeper!
Thanks for the input guys.
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I didn't try the note 5, (i was sort of disappointed with it over the note 4) but I think you made the right choice. Especially if you don't see yourself using the s-pen. I actually miss the pen, (last 2 phones where notes) but in love this phone. Glad I went with something different.
I don't find myself using the edge all that much, although that would be different if notifications could pop up on edge by themselves (no swipe), but it's snappy, screen is amazing, and it is the perfect size and feel for my hands.
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Well guys, I doubt you care, but I will update you anyways lol.
Tomorrow morning I am returning my Edge+ for the Note 5. For good this time lol. For various reasons, with the biggest being that Costco is offering a $150 gift card and wireless charger if you buy an Edge+ or Note 5 from them.
With that being said, they don't carry the gold Edge+. To be honest, that was the biggest reason I kept the Edge+ over the Note 5...the gold color. Now that my choices are both in black, I think the Note 5 will suit me better in the long run.
To be honest, the novelty of the slightly curved screen and gold color has already almost worn off for me. And I never use the Edge functions already. I know I will use the pen more than these functions.
Another reason is I went to Best Buy tonight to play with the Note 5 again. The screen looks a bit better and brighter to me when I put it side by side with my Edge+. I thought it was in my head at first but it definitely wasn't when I tried various things.
Anyhow, enough rambling. I might check in here every now and again. And I just want to say that this is a fantastic phone! Enjoy it guys and see you around.
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Well guys, I doubt you care, but I will update you anyways lol.
Tomorrow morning I am returning my Edge+ for the Note 5. For good this time lol. For various reasons, with the biggest being that Costco is offering a $150 gift card and wireless charger if you buy an Edge+ or Note 5 from them.
With that being said, they don't carry the gold Edge+. To be honest, that was the biggest reason I kept the Edge+ over the Note 5...the gold color. Now that my choices are both in black, I think the Note 5 will suit me better in the long run.
To be honest, the novelty of the slightly curved screen and gold color has already almost worn off for me. And I never use the Edge functions already. I know I will use the pen more than these functions.
Another reason is I went to Best Buy tonight to play with the Note 5 again. The screen looks a bit better and brighter to me when I put it side by side with my Edge+. I thought it was in my head at first but it definitely wasn't when I tried various things.
Anyhow, enough rambling. I might check in here every now and again. And I just want to say that this is a fantastic phone! Enjoy it guys and see you around.
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I'm thinking of doing the same.. it's a hard decision tho =/. If only they had the Note 5 in gold. This is the first gold phone I've actually liked. I just can't get used to the curved screen for some reason.
I've had many of the note series of phones just for the screen size and never used the pen. In everyday usage the edge is more noticeable and functional on a daily basis, and just looks much nicer to me. I wouldn't trade the edge plus in for anything now haha
Agreed, I had the last 4 Notes and never used the Pen. I just wanted the best phablet that have also software features. Now I use S6 Edge and even though it's very ok in size, I am still a fan of big screens. So the logical upgrade is S6 Edge+ which I'll buy in 1-2 weeks.
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I'm thinking of doing the same.. it's a hard decision tho =/. If only they had the Note 5 in gold. This is the first gold phone I've actually liked. I just can't get used to the curved screen for some reason.
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I'm not saying this to try and sway you, but I have no regrets about my choice. The Note 5 is simply more functional for me (I like some of the new pen features) and it's easier to handle with less glare on the screen.
I can say that both phones are great, no doubt about it. The Note 5 just fits me better personally.
Good luck with your choice!
i have the old galaxy s6 edge minus, the edge screen doesnt do much ! it' a waste of extra money.
atleast on NoteEdge, you can display Main and Edge screen, 2 independent screen on the screen at the same time !
i have a family plan with 3 lines, so i upgraded to Note5.
there is no Gold note5, but you can slap a gold case on it !
take a look ! S E X Y ! haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MPEYfqh0I&feature=share
I had the s6 edge+ indeed it's a beautiful phone but the curved screen got me returned for note 5
Galaxy s6 edge+ plus is the best phone. And most handsome good looking beautiful phone in the world.
Anyway good luck with your note 5 I hope you enjoy it.
Just a little discussion on your upgrade and why
I'll be getting the black version and I'm coming from the Note 5. I'm a Samsung fanboy, is that a good enough reason? Lolol
I've already pre ordered. Coming from S6 Edge. I'm going for the bigger screen, camera etc
i'm not sure to buy a s7 edge... because the 5,5". i have the note 5 now, what means?
Most likely going on the Samsung Upgrade program actually. Coming from a White S6 Edge mainly for the improved camera and better battery. Will probably sell the S6 Edge to counter some of the cost as I have another 12 months on my phone contract, then go Sim Only next time I'm due to upgrade. Will go to the Samsung Store tomorrow to check it out properly before deciding on colour.
Gonna preorder the Edge tomorrow haven't had an android phone since the S5 .
Coming from a much used 2.5 year old Note 3. Love it but it's a little long in the tooth now and the camera is awful. Got a good deal as I bought two S7 Edge phones along with 20% discount due to who I work for. Looking forward to the 8th, as I believe those who pre ordered get them 3 days early.
I've changed phones more often than usual these 2 past years, but as of the time of ordering the S7 Edge I'm using the G4. Absolutely amazing phone in almost every way, but the battery is lackluster at best. Went for the Edge mainly because of the 3600mah battery. Now I just need a couple of Qi 15w chargers as S7/E are supposed to support quicker wireless charging.
I'm still unsure if the camera will be an upgrade or downgrade from the G4 though, and I know I'll miss the IR-port.
I wouldn't mind getting the S7 Edge if it wasn't for the larger screen. Currently I have the S6 Edge and I think the size is just right. S7 Edge is just too big...
I'm going to order a s7 edge coming from a LG v10
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Going to pre-order the S7E and coming from my N6.
EDIT: Anddddd... Ordered! (Black Onyx)
I will go S7 Edge from my Note 3 I kind of not like the Edge at all, but it's battery capacity and bigger screen make's up for it. I would just love to have the same spec in a Note 5 body instead!
currently have the s6 edge plus and waiting for the s7 edge plus
Will order it very soon.
Have an S6 Edge and i love it but want a slightly bigger screen and battery life so S7 Edge will be perfect.
Pre ordered the S7 Edge coming from a Nexus 6P. The 6P is an amazing phone, snappy, beautiful panel and backed by a sea of development. It gets a little dull tho, after a while. So i want to try out a Samsung.
Really hoping to see some activity in the development forum! Even for the Exynos model.
From note 2
Will have s7edge+ ?
How cost? For edge+ 1000 usd?
Already pre-ordered!!! Coming from iPhone 6S Plus (buy it, was my worst mistake)... Can´t wait
I was considering buying it, however it hasn't even been a full year since I have had my s6 edge. I may just wait until the next big thing. Because you know it gets better and better every year
Coming from a Nexus 5x, it really has gone downhill at this point, lags like crazy now. Moving down from 5.5" screen was more difficult than I thought as I found it difficult to type so it's back to a 5.5" screen. I just got a new GMC Yukon which has a wireless charging pad built in and will look forward to that feature as well.
I'm coming from a Note 4. Already pre-ordered and really looking forward to trying out the camera looks amazing from what videos I've seen.
Planning to buy Samsung S7 edge, how is it? need some suggestions before buying.
I just bought S7 Edge today coming from Note 4 N910C and I can say it is really a very good phone. Worth the upgrade
Depends on your current phone but honestly is the best phone I've had the chance to play with. Nothing to complain about here!
What kind of suggestions do you need?
I think it's a great phone. The only other phones I'd consider right now are the htc 10 and the Nexus 6p. I consider the S7 Edge, for my needs and wants, to be better than either. Your needs and wants may be different.
One suggestion: get a case. I've never used cases before, but the S7 is very slippery, and very fragile. I'm using a thin, clear TPU case just to provide better grip, and at least a little protection.
I think this smartphone has everything that you need in a smartphone. Firstly the design of S7 Edge gives you the slimmest feel in your hand without trading off the extra large screen size. Secondly, it's water resistant up to 30 minutes in a depth of 1.5 meters or below. So, I personally suggest you to go for Samsung Edge S7 which happens to be the Best smartphone in 2016
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I just bought S7 Edge today coming from Note 4 N910C and I can say it is really a very good phone. Worth the upgrade
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Haha, it's good to see you here again, I upgraded to the edge as well. I worked with you on N4 MM twrp backup if you remember. Anyway, I agree, it is definely worth the upgrade, even though I kinda miss spen.
Best phone out right now. Ditched iphone 6 plus.
I currently have an S7 Edge I got when I had to return my Note 7. Is it worth the money to switch to the V20 unlocked version that BH sells even though it doesn't offer Wifi Calling? Also I hear about the camera glass breaking on it as well easily.
Finally, would the iPhone 7 Plus be a better alternative to the V20?
Is there any particular reason why you want to switch? From reviews I've been seeing from actual users, the V20 can't match the Edge.
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Is there any particular reason why you want to switch? From reviews I've been seeing from actual users, the V20 can't match the Edge.
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I get bored with phones lol. I had the s7 edge back in march, then bought the Note 7 then had to return that and got the Edge. Nearly got the iphone plus instead of the Edge but it was out of stock. Now i see the v20 with a larger screen and more features.
Also better cases for teh v20 that are more protective because it has a flat screen. Im using a Defender for the Edge which this screen protector actually fits tight to the screen but you have to tap hard because it's a thicker kind of plastic. Im thinking about getting Speck candygrip shell for it and sticking with the edge maybe.
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I get bored with phones lol. I had the s7 edge back in march, then bought the Note 7 then had to return that and got the Edge. Nearly got the iphone plus instead of the Edge but it was out of stock. Now i see the v20 with a larger screen and more features.
Also better cases for teh v20 that are more protective because it has a flat screen. Im using a Defender for the Edge which this screen protector actually fits tight to the screen but you have to tap hard because it's a thicker kind of plastic. Im thinking about getting Speck candygrip shell for it and sticking with the edge maybe.
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we are not the worm in your stomach, why would we know what you want to do? ask yourself that then decide for yourself.
I switch to Iphone 7 for a month, couldnt live without root and xposed then came back to S7 edge.
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I currently have an S7 Edge I got when I had to return my Note 7. Is it worth the money to switch to the V20 unlocked version that BH sells even though it doesn't offer Wifi Calling? Also I hear about the camera glass breaking on it as well easily.
Finally, would the iPhone 7 Plus be a better alternative to the V20?
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When I returned my note 7, I tried both and had to return both. The problem you are going to have is the screen quality. Samsung makes the best screens on a smartphone. To me the LG v20 and iPhone was terrible compared to the s7 edge. That is the main reason why I bought the s7e, the screen is amazing. (also camera and battery life was good too.)
iPhone 7 plus
I also wanted to buy iPhone 7 plus but it was out of stock, instead I bought S7 edge. In my opinion, I see LGv20 as a downgrade from s7 edge. There's no doubt that iPhone 7 plus is the fastest phone you can buy. I really miss iMessage, FaceTime, great stand by time, way better app performance and excellent Siri features. However, the only thing you will be missing on an iPhone is Fast charging. That's the only reason I am staying with s7 edge and I hope that Apple releases the next iPhone with fast charging feature.
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I also wanted to buy iPhone 7 plus but it was out of stock, instead I bought S7 edge. In my opinion, I see LGv20 as a downgrade from s7 edge. There's no doubt that iPhone 7 plus is the fastest phone you can buy. I really miss iMessage, FaceTime, great stand by time, way better app performance and excellent Siri features. However, the only thing you will be missing on an iPhone is Fast charging. That's the only reason I am staying with s7 edge and I hope that Apple releases the next iPhone with fast charging feature.
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You won't get wireless charging too.
Windows XP would also run as the fastest OS on PC if you can manage to install it on modern PCs. That's why iOS is so blazing fast. If you're a casual user, iOS may be an option. But for some of us, we feel too limited by it. I can't even set it ti automatically change brightness and screen on time based on what app is in the foreground, at least maybe without having to jailbreak. On Android that's just a couple of minutes to set up.
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You won't enjoy your phone much with iphones because of short battery life.
I get bored quickly also I've had my s7e since release, I tried switching to iphone7 plus had for two days couldn't stand it sold it, then I bought a pixel xl which I did like a lot but the camera wasn't as good as s7e, which my wife still had an s7e so I was constantly comparing pics side by side but ultimately I returned the pixel also because I couldn't live with 32gb phone. So now I'm back to my awesome s7e, amazing it still reigns supreme after releasing so long ago. As for the v20, not impressed enough to even want to try it, why aren't you considering pixel xl? I think s7e and pixel xl are androids of the year
If you're bored with a top of the line Android, root it an slap a custom ROM on it.
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Only other phone i would consideris the iphone 7 plus if i was wanting to switch. Imessage, facetime and siri all suck! Better app performance is subjective. Been with apple before and hate being limited to do stuff. Battery life is superb with iphones granted that is the only thing i miss. Multitasking is much better on this s7 edge than previous iphones. Havent tried the 7 though but highly doubt much has changed. The s7 edge is the closest thing to the note 7 which i love. Why would u consider a total different ui is beyond me. To each their own but i for one wont be tied by the sack by apple.
There is no auto brightness in ios??? Wtf? Really?
And for you op, you change a lot of phones. Do the mother nature a favor and stick with your s7e. ?
I'm getting bored with my S7 edge, but I would never change to an iPhone because iOS is way to closed. The only way to open it is by jailbreaking it, but Apple is hunting the jailbreak and it's getting harder and harder to jb...
I'll buy a One+ 3T soon, then a One 4 or maybe Pixel 2 depending on the design
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There is no auto brightness in ios??? Wtf? Really?
And for you op, you change a lot of phones. Do the mother nature a favor and stick with your s7e. ?
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Not autobrightness. That's different from what I'm talking about. For example you open a game, you want autobrightness to turn off automatically, then turn on back when you exit a game. Or when going into Chrome, you want screen on time to automatically change from 1min to 10 minutes. That can be done on Android via stuff like Tasker.
But I've never seen any of my friends on iOS have autobrightness. It's always real dark or blinding bright.
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You won't enjoy your phone much with iphones because of short battery life.
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It's good enough for enjoying the phone I think
Blues fan said:
I get bored with phones lol. I had the s7 edge back in march, then bought the Note 7 then had to return that and got the Edge. Nearly got the iphone plus instead of the Edge but it was out of stock. Now i see the v20 with a larger screen and more features.
Also better cases for teh v20 that are more protective because it has a flat screen. Im using a Defender for the Edge which this screen protector actually fits tight to the screen but you have to tap hard because it's a thicker kind of plastic. Im thinking about getting Speck candygrip shell for it and sticking with the edge maybe.
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s7 edge a better phone end of