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Ergonomics of the Nexus 6

For its size it's a surprisingly easy phone to use & that's with a case on it too. My last really large phone was the Note 2 & I couldn't get on with that at all so sent it back in the fourteen day period. Think the curved back makes a lot of difference in this respect. I haven't quite got the hang of two handed typing on it yet but I'm getting there. I was intending to use this as my second phone but I'm now thinking of selling my iPhone 6 & using this as my main device.[emoji3]
Was just wondering how others of you find it to use as a larger phone?

Its brilliantly constructed and as ergonomic as any phone made to date IMO!

Agreed. The curved back sits nice in my hand.

Good to hear. I've been using a GPe M8 and I actually don't like the feel of it in my hand. Makes me long for my N5. I'll be returning it for an N6 soon, I think.

I find it really easy to use. I use it one hand most of the time. It has gotten even better with reducing the dpi setting to 380, now i can type entire emails with one hand with swiping gestures. I am really glad I got this after seriously considering the moto x because of its size.

I still feel like I'm going to drop it all the time and am undecided if I like a phone this big. I'm still in the honeymoon phase I think. Having said that I like the feel of it. Feels better than holding a note 2. The note 4 might feel better to me though (my wife has one).

I have been getting progressively bigger devices over the last several years. S3 to s4 to s5 and now the n6 which is quite a jump. To be honest I thought the s5 was a little to big bit for some reason the n6 even though larger for the hand well

Evo_Shift said:
I still feel like I'm going to drop it all the time and am undecided if I like a phone this big. I'm still in the honeymoon phase I think. Having said that I like the feel of it. Feels better than holding a note 2. The note 4 might feel better to me though (my wife has one).
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It is slippery on its back side especially in cold dry weather. Have you tried a case yet

Personally I prefer using it with a case because the microusb cutout at the base of the device makes for a nice pinky rest.

Evo_Shift said:
I still feel like I'm going to drop it all the time and am undecided if I like a phone this big. I'm still in the honeymoon phase I think. Having said that I like the feel of it. Feels better than holding a note 2. The note 4 might feel better to me though (my wife has one).
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I find a case helps with that. Only problem with the case I use is it makes the buttons on the side hard to reach.

My cruzerlite case offers plenty of grippy surface. Minimal risk of dropping with it on
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On the fence about buying a Nexus 6P; Convince Me

On the fence; convince me.
So, still rocking the nexus 5, but it's time to upgrade since the mic is giving out (my fault for being rough replacing the screen without a heat gun lol).
I know I want a nexus device but I'm not sure if I want to super-size my screen. I've never owned a "phablet", in fact I used to dislike them, but now that they're more common place I might reconsider. My hands are average if not on the larger side so I'm sure I'd get used to it, but do I want to? One handed use is nice when necessary, but is it ever absolutely necessary?
The beefier speakers, cpu, ram, battery, and screen (AMOLED) are all turn-on's. But I want to now how the transition was for all of you, be it to the nexus 6, Note, 6p, or whatever other device was your first big screen phone. Any regrets, big or small? Will you ever down size? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Stop worrying. Once you go phablet, you want want to go back. Plus, front facing mothereffing speakers! I rock the piss out of my nexus 6 and the speakers are just so, damn, good. Back on the size subject, you adapt to the size very fast and I hear the 6p is a narrower device than my N6, so I say go for the 6p.

Why not go with 5x

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Why not go with 5x
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It's between the 6p and the 5x for me, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for the jump in size.
mikehunt22 said:
I hear the 6p is a narrower device than my N6, so I say go for the 6p.
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Good to hear, I kinda thought the 6 was a little uncomfortable to handle with its size and design. Plus I prefer the more square design of the 6p over the roundness of the 6.
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I came from Galaxy S6, no regrets. I did own the Note 4 before that but after you make the adjustment you'll like having a larger screen.

I came from a Moto X 2014. The device feels huge but very premium and thin. The camera and screen are insanely good. I ended up returning it because when playing music through the aux it would stop randomly. Idk if it was hardware or software but it was annoying. The speakers are good as well but each sound a bit different. I assume it's what sits behind each speakers that gives it the effect that one is louder than the other. I also had weird stutters with apps like instagram, snapchat, and the settings menu. Ultimately I don't think I'll repurchase the device because of its size. I had it for a week and got used to making adjustments to handle a big device but it's so much easier for me to manage my Moto X 2014.
I also have the 5x sitting on my desk. I don't think I can justify the price to upgrade from my Moto X 2014 so that one will also be returned. You might want to check it out. It's more of the workhorse of the two and feels really good in the hand.

You get used to the phone being big for the most part. I was using a phone with a 5 inch screen temporarily after having a samsung note 3 and I did like how much easier it was to handle the phone but at the same time I missed the bigger screen. You need to decide yourself which is more important to you so you don't have buyers remorse.

Just buy my old N6. You'll love it. It's nowhere near as awesome as my 6P, but you'll love it. Yup.

You will adapt to its size after a hour or so of use. You will begin to realize that it isn't even that huge anymore.

Get another Nexus 5 for $100 on Ebay and enjoy life.

I'd love to share my thoughts about this phone with you. I have a lot and I also come from the Nexus 5 and skipped the Nexus 6 entirely because of its size. So strap in...
I was also on the fence back in mid October. I just couldn't make the jump yet. The 5X didn't seem like much of an upgrade to me. It just seemed like they remade the 5 again. I'm not here to argue specs with anyone, but personally, I wasn't too impressed. I was impressed with the 6P specs though. That felt more right in the way of an upgrade. I didn't really need an upgrade, but the screen is slightly raised on my N5. It clicks when you press the right spot. It does not impact functionality at all and it's been like that about 6 months now. I got my N5 brand new on launch, so it held up pretty well I'd say. I have a lot of friends who (despite my best efforts) are with the dark side and recently got the 6+ and 6S+ iPhones. They all justify the size of the phone with the real estate for gaming and movies. I get that, I do. I'd much rather game and watch movies on my 55" HDTV then on my 24" in the bedroom. After playing some games and checking out Netflix on their phones, I did like the bigger size in that sense. That being said, I got the phone delivered to me on November 9th and I am still getting used to it. If you've ever held a 6+, that is what you can expect. I compared my 6P to a buddies 6+ and they are exactly the same size.
My best advice to you (and anyone else in a similar situation) would be to be please, please, please, please, please do not let the threads in the 6P General forum scare you. There's a lot of threads about a lot of defects and issues. They have already acknowledged and addressed these issues and aside from a few bad eggs, from what I've seen the RMA's that have been going out have been better. I have 0 issues with my device. Everything is cut and lined up properly. All flush. Nothing is loose or raised. I decided to make the jump and was ready to order from Project Fi the moment I finally got my invite from them. That happened on 10/16/2015. I ordered the 32gb graphite. I love the overall look and feel of it way more than the N5 which I could not get enough of at launch. The build quality of the phone is amazing. The weight of it and the metal touch make it feel extremely high quality. That's the one thing I always thought Google could take a lesson from Apple in. Despite my opinion on Apple and iOS, I could always appreciate the build quality of the iPhones. They felt so solid and great to hold. None of my phones gave me the same satisfaction as iPhones did. I never had one, but I've played with my friends. It always felt so legit while my phones always felt like cheap lightweight plastic toys. Google finally stepped up in that sense. I have had mine since the 9th of November and so far I have not had a single issue as found in this forum. The phone still sits completely flush on the front or back. No wobbling when you press one of the edges. No bends, the back glass hasn't spontaneously cracked. Everything works 100%. It's solid. It's legit.
The feel is phenomenal. The first thing you will notice is the feel of the aluminum. It feels great. No, I mean great. Amazing, even. The one downside being that it is slippery. Keep a good grip on it. Don't try to balance it on your leg or clothes when you're sitting down. It'll slip. Besides that though? The first time you leave you phone idling in a cool room and pick it up. Oh man, I was not prepared for that. I would compare it to flipping your pillow over to put your face on the cool side. You get the same satisfaction. It's refreshing, every single time. 10/10 would recommend. You don't get that with the N5, no sir.
The next thing that I noticed right away was the haptic feedback. As soon as I pressed the home button I giggled like a schoolgirl. I don't know if my N5 had a defective motor (known issue, I know), but it never, ever felt like that. It feels so much crisper, cleaner and a lot more tight. My N5 kind of sounds and feels loose and rattly. Another thing I love, which isn't really a selling point...at all is that when you listen to the haptic feedback in a dead-quite room, it makes a neat sound. The vibrations just feel deeper and sharper. I can't get enough.
My screen is perfect. Not a single issue. There is no color or hue defects at all. There is no raised edges. Everything is 100% in this department. As mentioned earlier, it is awesome for movies and gaming if that is your thing. I don't really game much besides N64 emulators and as far as videos and movies goes, Netflix and YouTube is pretty much all I use.
Next up is the front facing speakers. The front facing speakers. The front facing speaks blew me away. Coming from a Nexus 5? Absolutely blew my mind. I had both phones, one in my left hand one in my right. I opened YouTube on both and I opened up 'Who Are You' by The Who on both. I played it first on my N5, rooted with V4A installed and finely tuned. My thoughts? "OK, sounds pretty good. Yeah." I had my Viper settings to my liking and that's what I was used to. The very second I pressed play on the 6P I had the biggest grin on my face. It was so LOUD and the sound was coming right at me! You know how when you hold the Nexus 5, half of the time you cover the speaker holes with your hand? It was just the way you held it and the placement of the speaker? Especially in landscape when trying to watch a video... I hated that sooooo much. I love these speakers so much. Some people here say the sound quality is bad, but I haven't noticed that at all. No crackling or popping. Nothing sounds distorted or washed out, but there are others out there a lot more judgmental in those regards than myself.
USB Type-C. Now when I mentioned earlier than I am still getting used to the phone, this is primarily what I mean. I cannot seem to shake the habit of slightly twirling the cable and looking down at it to make sure it's facing the right direction before plugging it in. You don't need to do that anymore, just plug and go. If I don't think about it and just go to plug in, I find myself doing that almost every time.
The buttons. The buttons are nice. They have a clean, crisp click when you press them. Almost like a snap. I like the way the power button is textured. It feels nice when you slide your finger over it. While on topic of the power button, I love the double press to access camera feature. I can't tell you how many pictures I missed (animal or insect that got spooked) waiting to open my N5 camera, even from the lockscreen. Even if the 6P is idle, a quick double press of the power button and the camera is open instantly. It's so fast, I'm blown away every time. I still haven't got used to that either. Oh and the 240 FPS is so cool, just make sure you do it in well lit places otherwise it comes out grainy. I don't want to go as far as to say potato quality, but you'll see what I mean if you try in a dimmer setting.
The only, and I mean only beef I have with the buttons is the placement. I am left handed. The way I hold and use all of my phones is that I primarily support my phones with my right hand and use my left for scrolling, reaching across the screen, zooming, etc. As a result, I got into the habit of using my right hand for single handed use. It just doesn't feel right to use only my left hand with my phones. It's awkward and just not natural for me. So when I want to take a screenshot, I do have to use both hands. My right thumb and then my left hand for the power button, otherwise I end up capturing a bug report. I can take screenshots one handed if I use my left hand, but I just don't do that, ever. Other than that I have no issues with that. I do not have any rattling from them during normal usage or movement of the phone. They do slightly rattle if I shake the phone quite hard. However having button rattle ONLY when I shake it hard enough to see if they rattle is not a turn of for me, at all.
The battery. I am honestly so incredibly impressed with the battery, I cannot even begin to tell you. On my Nexus 5, I would take all sorts of measures to improve battery life as well as screen on time. Granted I did have some things working against me like the Viper drivers and things of that nature, but I would keep the brightness around 50%, usually slightly under. NFC, location, etc. was all off and I was pretty impressed with 3-3.5 hours of screen on time, per charge. With my 6P I get 6 hours of screen on time every single charge. That is with the screen at 100% full brightness at all times. Nothing is turned off either. This is with the phone bare stock. It isn't unlocked or rooted, it is completely factory stock plus about 80 or so user apps installed. At least an hour of YouTube throughout the day, probably more. I also stream Spotify sometimes, not too much though. Aside from that just web browsing. XDA, Facebook, Google+, things of that nature. As far as the brightness goes, I'm not too worried about burn in as I never got any on my Galaxy Nexus and I had that for almost 4 years. The idle drain is insane. I went an entire work day without my phone. I left it in the car and at the end of the day when I went back, it was at 99%. 8 hour shift on full bars LTE. I often find myself using the phone and after so long I'm like yeah it's about time to charge it before it dies. Since I'm used to the Nexus 5 and all, but I pull the shade down and see like 40% left and I can't help but laugh. I love it. Love love love it.
Now as far as the size goes. If that's all you're worried about... Do yourself a favor and go order the phone right now. Just do it. I was so against it myself, but you do get used to it. You really do. Eventually you get the hang of using it one handed no problem. You kinda have to tilt it in towards your palm so you can reach your thumb across to the furthest corner, but that's only if you happen to need to press whatever is in the furthest corner. Texting in landscape was a bit of a curve as well. I don't have huge hands, but I don't have small girly hands either. That's a lot of phone to cover. Instead of just resting it in your fingers, you kind of have to set it further back on your fingers to cradle it. That way you have a bit more reach with your thumbs. It took some getting used to, but now I can text one handed, or landscape with no issues. Believe me though, when you first try you will probably say nope, this isn't happening I am returning it. Don't. You get over that. Really, you do. Everything else about this phone will make you fall in love before you are inconvenienced by the size even once. Seriously, pull the trigger. You want to and you know it, stop kidding yourself. I just got used to the size though, I didn't really fall in love. I would say if they made a phone with the same specs and they found a happy medium between the N5 and the 6P as far as size goes, I'd surely downsize and get it. Not until this phone put in it's 2+ years though. I wouldn't ever send it back to get a smaller screen now that I actually have it.
I have no real complaints with any aspects of the phone. It's been so great I honestly haven't even wanted to unlock or root it yet. Now that Cataclysm is available- and a user over in that thread commented that with systemless root he was able to successfully add cards and complete purchases with Android Pay, I may reconsider. Solid phone and a solid experience using it. Like you said, you have slightly larger hands, so you certainly will acclimate to the size of the phone in little to no time. I hope I could answer some of your questions about the device and alleviate some of your concerns! Let me know if you have any other questions!
tl;dr - Do it and welcome to the 6P forums.

It's OK to sit on the fence. Just make sure not to sit on the phone... It will bend.

6P imo is the best android phone you can buy right now, its a full package, much easier to hold than the N6 too

Jimmy_Noname said:
So, still rocking the nexus 5, but it's time to upgrade since the mic is giving out (my fault for being rough replacing the screen without a heat gun lol).
I know I want a nexus device but I'm not sure if I want to super-size my screen. I've never owned a "phablet", in fact I used to dislike them, but now that they're more common place I might reconsider. My hands are average if not on the larger side so I'm sure I'd get used to it, but do I want to? One handed use is nice when necessary, but is it ever absolutely necessary?
The beefier speakers, cpu, ram, battery, and screen (AMOLED) are all turn-on's. But I want to now how the transition was for all of you, be it to the nexus 6, Note, 6p, or whatever other device was your first big screen phone. Any regrets, big or small? Will you ever down size? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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You'd be surprised how quickly you get used to it. I went from a smaller screen to the OnePlus One and it was a pretty big jump, but I was used to it within a few hours. Now I have the 6P. You won't want to go back to a smaller screen.
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Try it and probably never look back!

I had a Nexus 5X until my 6P came in. Trust me, it's night and day and although the size difference is VRY noticeable, it's not unbearable. You're getting a lot of phone for a rock bottom price. NOT saying the 5X was bad at all, actually quite different. I just wanted the extra screen real estate.

I came from an N5, had the same phablet reservations. But after seeing what Google did with the 5X, it wasn't quite what I was hoping it would be. I love the 6P!
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I had a Nexus 5X until my 6P came in. Trust me, it's night and day and although the size difference is VRY noticeable, it's not unbearable. You're getting a lot of phone for a rock bottom price. NOT saying the 5X was bad at all, actually quite different. I just wanted the extra screen real estate.
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Returned my 6p for a 5x and could not be happier. The 6p is a very big and long phone.
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Why I'm returning my G5, after 5 days

In short, the G5 feels poor, for a flagship. I knew about some of these issues beforehand but I didn't think they would bother me as much. I've never returned a phone before.
I'm coming to it from a Samsung S6 Edge and iPhone 6. I can include the Nexus 5 and even the HTC One X in here too. They all felt a lot better, smoother and cleaner.
I wanted the G5 + Hi-Fi Plus to replace the phone + audio player combination I've gotten used to (most recently, Sony Walkman NWZ-ZX2).
I still haven't received my Hi-Fi Plus. But even if it was great (it is essential, for me), it wouldn't make up for everything else.
It feels like there is a lip when you swipe from the side of the screen. It's not smooth glass like an iPhone, S6/S7 Edge, or Nexus 5. It doesn't feel nice.
The chrome trim around the back has hideous gaps. The bottom of the phone doesn't align along perfectly along the sides. I think this is shocking in this day and age. I can imagine Steve Jobs slapping you in the face if you tried to release something like this at Apple.
The fingerprint scanner doesn't always work and seems to be worse than my iPhone and the S6 Edge.
The battery life is mediocre, even without always-on display. With lighter than average use I can go a day. I would expect this to be reduced with the Hi-Fi Plus. I don't want to carry two batteries and I don't want to be swapping batteries until this one becomes suboptimal. But by that time I will probably want a new device.
The supposedly metal body feels like plastic, so what's the point of it? It's not as though plastic phones fall apart or melt in time. Moreover, this prevents wireless charging.
Audio quality through the standard headphone socket is dull. The fact that something can play 24-bit audio doesn't mean it will sound great.
The tapered top of the phone means that I can't use a screen protector. In the long term, this is not a good idea, especially without a case.
The fact that the Hi-Fi Plus makes it a little bigger means that I can't use a case.
I think I'll get the HTC 10 when it's released, because the S7 Edge isn't a worthwhile upgrade over a 128GB S6 Edge.

I had similar build quality concerns. You can actually see some of these things in review photos and videos of you know what you are looking for. A friend of mine has already exchanged his first G5 due to build quality.
BTW, what does the M10 have over the S7E that makes it worth the upgrade and the S7E not? Just curious.

Wow, I've had a totally different experience. My build quality is perfect much to my surprise. The seams along the modular edge are spot on. The fingerprint scanner is spot on. Faster than my S7 and on par with the Nexus 6P.
The screen lies smooth to the side and I like the curved top and bottom as I really don't use screen protectors anymore. The gaps on the chrome are antenna lines, at least they are not all over the phone. As far the finish it's a coating. I like it as it has better grip than my S7 edge or any metal/glass phone and I have no blemishes thankfully.
I can't comment on the headphone audio as I use LG Tones and the sound has been great coming from Bluetooth.
As far as the M10 it will be no where near as good as the S7 or even this. Why? Because HTC has lost its identity and produces a mismosh of tech. Smaller screen, added a home button and remove its defining feature the front facing speakers. Blah. Ill skip it.
I'm sure Steve Jobs has already rolled over in his grave with the crap Apple has been pushing out for the last few years. Innovation stopped with his illness and unfortunate death. They have been far too stagnant. From antenna gate to bending phones to buggy os releases there are plenty of bad quality control issues at Apple, no company is exempt.
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Well to be fair to the HTC 10 it presumably will have a better DAC in it than the stock SD820 DAC that the S7 and G5 has. But at the same time the SD DAC which has been notoriously awful over the years is much improved. Definitely good enough for most people or cheap gym headphones. I would also give a slight nod to Sense over touchwiz and LGs new abomination of an iphone setup.

I am Coming from the HTC m7 and htc models before the m7, after one week i am still fascinated from the design and the quality of the the G5. Battery is ok could be better but ok. i am not more then 24 h away from a power supply and can still use some powerbanks on tours. the Launcher i use for years now is Lightning Launcher so i never have to care bout sense or other original used launchers by the manufacturer of my phone. till now the phone is top for me.
let me see if the sound module can beat the boomsound of HTC and if it will get rooted for some framework and so on.

For me, the back seam is not straight in terms of height. The seams along the side don't align either.
I think in part I'm used to devices impressing me in the hand. The One X felt amazing. The Nexus 5 felt very clean. The S6 Edge looked fantastic (although the Edge was pointless).
These things wouldn't bother me so much if I kept the phone in a case, but this won't happen.
Even without sound quality considerations, I much prefer the S7/Edge/HTC 10. I can get a separate DAP (I'm considering Onkyo DP-X1 but waiting for it be released in Europe, for warranty reasons).

The one clear advantage of the HTC 10, for me, is that you can use the microSD for app storage. I found that I'd used up all the space on the G5 after saving a lot of Spotify music for offline access. It felt like a step backwards from a 128GB S6 Edge in this regard.

Mines perfect. I adore this device. Sorry to hear your device sucked.
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Bye, and dont let the door hit you in the arse on your way out.

If you're that much of an audiophile.... I don't even know why you'd consider a phone to play audio. Just my 0.02.
Fingerprint scanner is spot on for me.. Even when I'm dirty at work, it still picks it up. My S6 Edge+ would pick it up 10% of the time when my hands were clean.
Sure, I went through 8 G5's before I settled. Is this one flawless? No. It's slightly off flush. Do I care? Not really... It's in a case.
Do I expect perfect QC for a $700 phone? Sure. But it's not going to happen until manufacturing returns to this country. Will that happen? Nope.
Overall, I'm loving this phone. Displays nice, clear, and smooth. UI is great... Probably moving back to nova, but the styling and icons are beautiful. The grip without a case is great for a metal phone. Due to the coating, for sure.
It just feels and looks nicer than the S6 and S7 IMO. Had the M10 not had a physical home button, I would've considered it. Nothing says classy like a buttonless face.
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Rauch said:
If you're that much of an audiophile.... I don't even know why you'd consider a phone to play audio. Just my 0.02.
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Because its not asking too much to want above average quality without having to carry multiple devices. Im not expecting it to rvial my fiio x3 but it should at least be passable for the gym etc.
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ISure, I went through 8 G5's before I settled. Is this one flawless? No. It's slightly off flush. Do I care? Not really... It's in a case.
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You went through 8 then immediately claim you dont care? Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that you dont care not us.
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IDo I expect perfect QC for a $700 phone? Sure. But it's not going to happen until manufacturing returns to this country. Will that happen? Nope.
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I know right, it really sucked when they stopped making smartphones here right? Whats that? They have never been made here? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Really though, how can you even try that excuse? The G5 is made the same way the s7/iphone is made. Cheap asian labor but you dont see these issues plaguing them do you? This notion that made in china = garbage is so ignorant and shortsighted. It dont matter where its made the manufacturer can set the quality standards its like this in every country no matter what they are making.

Exactly. I don't want to carry two devices all the time. Especially in the summer.
The Hi-Fi Plus could make the G5 compete with DAPs that cost roughly the same.
The ZX2 was good but it was stuck on Android 4.2. The DP-X1 is still not forthcoming for me. So I need something. I sold the S6 Edge and my iPhone doesn't have enough memory for much music.
Yes, some of these issues are due to quality control. Others are just very bad design choices.
I'm still having problems with the fingerprint scanner. I tried rescanning carefully but it hasn't improved.
I'm also a little sceptical about the fast charging estimates. I think they're underestimated.

Aeneas said:
The one clear advantage of the HTC 10, for me, is that you can use the microSD for app storage. I found that I'd used up all the space on the G5 after saving a lot of Spotify music for offline access. It felt like a step backwards from a 128GB S6 Edge in this regard.
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I hope you know that one can change storage too sd card thou: In spotify go to settings > scroll down to storage > choose sd card
And problem solved!

notinterested said:
Because its not asking too much to want above average quality without having to carry multiple devices. Im not expecting it to rvial my fiio x3 but it should at least be passable for the gym etc.
You went through 8 then immediately claim you dont care? Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that you dont care not us.
I know right, it really sucked when they stopped making smartphones here right? Whats that? They have never been made here? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Really though, how can you even try that excuse? The G5 is made the same way the s7/iphone is made. Cheap asian labor but you dont see these issues plaguing them do you? This notion that made in china = garbage is so ignorant and shortsighted. It dont matter where its made the manufacturer can set the quality standards its like this in every country no matter what they are making.
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If quality of music is your biggest concern at the gym, you've got some other issues at hand. You should become more focused on your workout and sweating away that fat instead of worrying how good your music sounds.
Yeah, I went through 8 because the moment you pull them out of the box the flaws were that noticeable. Beyond that, no big deal.
Ignorant and short sighted? No. Compare tools made in China vs. Made in america, germany, or Spain. Big difference. Or more importantly - copper and steel pipe and fittings. Tell me there's no quality difference between something made with cheap labor vs. Something made here. The fact I can crack a 2" black iron fitting with an 18" pipe wrench is enough to see there is a difference. Than you factor in dimensions and threading differences.... Get out in the real world and realize there is a huge quality difference between cheap labor and expensive labor.
Oh, I'm sorry.... Did you forget about about the admitted iphone 5S manufacturing defects? Could be sworn there was something wrong with the 6's as well!
Open your eyes kiddo.
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Rauch said:
If quality of music is your biggest concern at the gym, you've got some other issues at hand. You should become more focused on your workout and sweating away that fat instead of worrying how good your music sounds.
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What? That makes no sense AT ALL... Music is a motivator, when your music sounds like ass its a distraction. You must not go to the gym.
Rauch said:
Ignorant and short sighted? No. Compare tools made in China vs. Made in america, germany, or Spain. Big difference. Or more importantly - copper and steel pipe and fittings. Tell me there's no quality difference between something made with cheap labor vs. Something made here. The fact I can crack a 2" black iron fitting with an 18" pipe wrench is enough to see there is a difference. Than you factor in dimensions and threading differences.... Get out in the real world and realize there is a huge quality difference between cheap labor and expensive labor.
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Thats a cute analogy ill give you another one.
Compare the iphone and the galaxy s7 to the G5. All are made in the same place 2 are considered to be very well made one has problems like crazy.
get out in the real world and realize all phones are made in cheap asian countries and only one has these glaring issues and you will see a flawed design for what it is. Your argument holds no water whatsoever.
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Oh, I'm sorry.... Did you forget about about the admitted iphone 5S manufacturing defects? Could be sworn there was something wrong with the 6's as well!
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You must be joking right? Those where design flaws antennagate was bad design not bad production. The iphone 6 bending was bad design not bad production.
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Open your eyes kiddo.
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Open my eyes? Your argument is that the G5 is messed up because its "made in china" every other smartphone on the planet is too and they are just fine... Stop being so stubbornly ignorant.

BudaBang said:
I hope you know that one can change storage too sd card thou: In spotify go to settings > scroll down to storage > choose sd card
And problem solved!
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Lol. I was going to say that.
But yes g5 has micro sd slot.
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What? That makes no sense AT ALL... Music is a motivator, when your music sounds like ass its a distraction. You must not go to the gym.
Thats a cute analogy ill give you another one.
Compare the iphone and the galaxy s7 to the G5. All are made in the same place 2 are considered to be very well made one has problems like crazy.
get out in the real world and realize all phones are made in cheap asian countries and only one has these glaring issues and you will see a flawed design for what it is. Your argument holds no water whatsoever.
You must be joking right? Those where design flaws antennagate was bad design not bad production. The iphone 6 bending was bad design not bad production.
Open my eyes? Your argument is that the G5 is messed up because its "made in china" every other smartphone on the planet is too and they are just fine... Stop being so stubbornly ignorant.
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Bro, you make some solid points

Baxter you know I don't speak Spanish.

Aeneas said:
The one clear advantage of the HTC 10, for me, is that you can use the microSD for app storage. I found that I'd used up all the space on the G5 after saving a lot of Spotify music for offline access. It felt like a step backwards from a 128GB S6 Edge in this regard.
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People should learn how to use google.
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Wow, lots of people managed to do something you couldn't.

Sound isn't that bad, I listened to a few tracks quickly on spotify on my sennheisers and it was on par with other phones I've tested.
Could be tweaked a bit with viper when we get root but I'm satisfied.
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2 months on, how are you loving the ultra-tall/wide display?

Are you liking the extra space? Or do you find it too tall?

to me the size is great ...
many people complian about the finger print reader location , but i have no issues with it . my fingers auto-pilot to it now

I love it. This phone just looks too beautiful to put a case on but I sadly have to anyway.

Despite some minor issues, I do love the size of my s8+ and wouldn't want it any smaller. I like the YouTube movies in ultra wide etc etc.
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It's perfect ! I'm not sure I want to go back to a 16:9 ratio

Taller is bad for the s8+. It does not fit well in hoodie pockets and falls out too easily because of it. Bad idea.

The S8+ is so much more easier to use one-handed than my previous big phones. It also seems better balanced in terms of weight distribution. I always felt like I could drop my Note7/S7e if I didn't hold them "just right" where I don't have that sense of fear with the S8+.

I still look at it the same way as I first got it haha. I love it! Since I got used to the new ratio, 16:9 phones look too wide now. Many people made a big deal out of the finger print sensor placement, but when muscle memory kicks in, it's really not an issue. It's nice to see my phone already unlocked right when I lift it up.

Like it. Thinking of oneplus 5 though....

I deplete my battery just staring at my screen. I'm always trying to think of something to do on my phone just to give me an excuse to look at it. I wish my tv looked this damn good! Love the size!

Love the phone S8+, but what a horror to carry around. You can't just put it in your back pocket, cause of it may damage when you sit, cause of it's length. So it's not exactly a perfect 'mobile'. All so feels a little on the flimsy side build wise.

Oliver Aa said:
Love the phone S8+, but what a horror to carry around. You can't just put it in your back pocket, cause of it may damage when you sit, cause of it's length. So it's not exactly a perfect 'mobile'. All so feels a little on the flimsy side build wise.
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S8+ can't be too much worse than the standard S8, where Jerryrigeverything gave the phone a stellar review for durability.

Love the shape and size of the S8 - makes my old S7e look FAT!!!

First time I went with the smaller phone. I really love it. Since most things I do are reading and typing the added vertical space really helps a ton. I configured bixby button to toggle fullscreen to get even more content in the screen.
The exact opposite of what computer displays do. And I think it's the right direction. Most web content is vertical so are text and documents. And the ultra slim bezels are just beautiful to look at. Makes my 3t look really old in comparison :silly:

Loving it so far.

Lol at comments. Im gonna write something else. Far best phone ive used so far. Got original screen protector from Samsung to prevent thoes scratches people getting.
Im generaly getting around 5 hours SOT on heavy use 4g internet or 6-7 hours when mixed used when i dont watch video stuff - but when i do watch some of the video i got 7 to 8 hours tops. So battery considering 5.8 screen is satisfying.
I would like too get ram managment better thou. Mostly got 1,6 gb of ram available (with 500 mb reserved) even with disabled apps from Package disabler pro. That thing didnt do much better if on. movies plays superb there. Samsung internet browser best out there so far. And ive tested quite a few. android skin UI is improved, and me saying that who comes from Sony flasgships with one of the best android UI,s there is sure a compliment to samsung. Camera is like "this phone dont know how to make bad photo lol". I have little kid and so far after 3000 photos, i actually deleted 3 or 4 of them cause of bad quality, everything else were great. When it comes too sound quality, thats where samsung shines now too. Output is very strong. I was dj for years and i was into music production, and the output is really clear and very powerfull. Samsung really did exellent job there.So generaly, phone is really good, i just wish to get more free ram available. (all 1,5 - 2 gbs is most then enough for all heavy users.)
Phone suprisingly works well in one hand use. i can do roll down with my middle size hand easy.

Is it just me or this phone completely trash? Or Samsung fanboys can't admit it? I pre-ordered this phone day one. Been using for 2 months and has been lagging,crashing,freezing, restart at random times. One time I tried to pay with Samsung pay and restarted. The battery is trash and get depleted quickly by listening to music. The only going for this is beautiful infinity display. I replace this with OnePlus 5 real soon.

Dont like it. Too skinny and wrong aspect ratio. My s5 felt like a bigger screen due to the proper aspect ratio even tbough it was technically a lot smaller.

S3, Note 1, S4, Note 2, S5, Note 3, Note 4, S6 Edge+, S7 Edge and now S8... Beast of allll beasts... no one comes close.. Samsung all the way!!!
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Nope, I still wish the top was chopped off to be 17:9 or really 16:9. Super tall does nothing for me except make the phone harder to hold and drop down notification shade.
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AT&Tsucks said:
Is it just me or this phone completely trash? Or Samsung fanboys can't admit it? I pre-ordered this phone day one. Been using for 2 months and has been lagging,crashing,freezing, restart at random times. One time I tried to pay with Samsung pay and restarted. The battery is trash and get depleted quickly by listening to music. The only going for this is beautiful infinity display. I replace this with OnePlus 5 real soon.
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I wouldn't say mine is complete trash but I do wish the phone was shorter. Not wider, just shorter.
Battery life is kinda bad compared to my S7 Edge was in the beginning.
Patiently waiting for Pixel 2.

Ergonomics (in-hand feel)

Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I had a good hour hands on time today at Samsung 837. I like the feel. It's a more professional feel. Premium all the way around. Solid. Sturdy. These are just a few words to describe how it felt. Slightly larger than the S8+ (current device) I get my free Note 8 sometime in September. From the sound I should get it a few days or maybe a week before normal consumers. Feel free to ask my any questions. I'll be glad to answer what I can.
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pestilencec11 said:
I had a good hour hands on time today at Samsung 837. I like the feel. It's a more professional feel. Premium all the way around. Solid. Sturdy. These are just a few words to describe how it felt. Slightly larger than the S8+ (current device) I get my free Note 8 sometime in September. From the sound I should get it a few days or maybe a week before normal consumers. Feel free to ask my any questions. I'll be glad to answer what I can.
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How bad is the fingerprint reader placement? I've come to like the simplicity of the front mounted fingerprint reader (easier to unlock my phone when it's on my car dock). And what do you think of Bixby?

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How bad is the fingerprint reader placement? I've come to like the simplicity of the front mounted fingerprint reader (easier to unlock my phone when it's on my car dock). And what do you think of Bixby?
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I assume it depends on the size of your hand. I already have 2 TPU cases and its going to be a non-issue for me because I have somewhat large hands. My current device is the LG V20 and with it side by side to the Note 8 cases the V20 can completely eat the Note 8.

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How bad is the fingerprint reader placement? I've come to like the simplicity of the front mounted fingerprint reader (easier to unlock my phone when it's on my car dock). And what do you think of Bixby?
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Fingerprint sensor is a none issue for me. I have probably smaller than average hands. It's a little further than the S8+. We had a chance to speak to the leader software dev for Bixby. I got put on the spot and was asked how I liked it. I told them that I understand that it's still being developed and will get better with time. They didn't accept that and so I said day to day tasks it still needs help and Google is much faster and more accurate with the results. He said thank for the feed back and that they are working tirelessly to make just as good if not better than Google voice. Iris is near instant and same with the FP sensor.
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That's my concern as well. I think the scanner is too far up and for Samsung to say they listen to their customers is really taking the biscuit, because this has and is an issue with the s8+. They don't care as long as as it's design happy for them to be honest.

I have a large enough hand that I can reach my thumb to the other side of the screen on a large phone.
The Note 8, felt great in my hand, as a former Note 7 owner (I still have one but stopped using it) this phone simply builds on the Note 7 feel, the phone is sturdy, anything that moves only because they engineered it to. It feels refined and looks great. I can't help but want to throw a case at it the minute I receive mine.
However, the placement of the fingerprint reader makes little sense to me.
The fact that it's off to the side isn't even the issue, it was simply difficult to locate, sure I'm sure i'll get used to it, but I currently have the V20 and it took me no effort to locate the scanner in the back to turn on my screen.
I wish the Note 8 fingerprint scanner was also a button.

I would read a comment from Donald Trump on this topic

I was in the store today, wanted to compare to my 6p. It's barely taller and a smidge thinner, was surprised it's so small. Next to the Galaxy 8+it's almost the same size but without the rounded corners. Very manageable if you've been using a large phone
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Samsung is buying back Note 7 at full price no questions asked
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I have a large enough hand that I can reach my thumb to the other side of the screen on a large phone.
The Note 8, felt great in my hand, as a former Note 7 owner (I still have one but stopped using it) this phone simply builds on the Note 7 feel, the phone is sturdy, anything that moves only because they engineered it to. It feels refined and looks great. I can't help but want to throw a case at it the minute I receive mine.
However, the placement of the fingerprint reader makes little sense to me.
The fact that it's off to the side isn't even the issue, it was simply difficult to locate, sure I'm sure i'll get used to it, but I currently have the V20 and it took me no effort to locate the scanner in the back to turn on my screen.
I wish the Note 8 fingerprint scanner was also a button.
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you are in luck if you want to sell your Note 7 as samsung is currently buying them back for around 800 no questions asked. i didn't send mine in either and i just sold it via craigslist to a guy who is about 3 hops from samsung. now, you can't get 800 for it yourself - has to be shipped specially and has to get to the right dealer but, this is a quiet little factoid that is not very well known and i thought i would post it here. i got 380 for mine - it helps offset the note 8 i pre-ordered.

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you are in luck if you want to sell your Note 7 as samsung is currently buying them back for around 800 no questions asked. i didn't send mine in either and i just sold it via craigslist to a guy who is about 3 hops from samsung. now, you can't get 800 for it yourself - has to be shipped specially and has to get to the right dealer but, this is a quiet little factoid that is not very well known and i thought i would post it here. i got 380 for mine - it helps offset the note 8 i pre-ordered.
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That's crazy, is that really true? So what do I need to do, call Samsung?

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That's crazy, is that really true? So what do I need to do, call Samsung?
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i don't think so - i'm pretty sure you have to sell to a person who deals in phones. i found a dude on craigslist specifically looking for them. he resells them to someone who resells them to a dealer that then ships them to korea. like i said, this seems to be a quiet thing - i don't think you would have much luck trying to approach samsung directly, but you never know.
if you do look on craigslist for phone buyers, be safe - only meet them where there are cameras and people. it's a good sign if they are just as careful as you.

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i don't think so - i'm pretty sure you have to sell to a person who deals in phones. i found a dude on craigslist specifically looking for them. he resells them to someone who resells them to a dealer that then ships them to korea. like i said, this seems to be a quiet thing - i don't think you would have much luck trying to approach samsung directly, but you never know.
if you do look on craigslist for phone buyers, be safe - only meet them where there are cameras and people. it's a good sign if they are just as careful as you.
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I reckon calling Samsung is absolutely worth a try. It's a product recall due to safety concerns. I wouldn't be surprised if they took it back at full price.
If you bought the phone via a third party, you should probably try them first.
Nothing to lose, right?

Back to the topic 'in hand', just received my Note and while I love the phone overall it's WAYYY too big in the hand. Can't reach anything (I have probably normal sized hands), and it's two hands all the way. Real disappointment. Even this keyboard on the screen looks like it's for the hard of sight, it's so large. Almost the size of my kindle. Oh well, will be returning and going back to my S8...

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Back to the topic 'in hand', just received my Note and while I love the phone overall it's WAYYY too big in the hand. Can't reach anything (I have probably normal sized hands), and it's two hands all the way. Real disappointment. Even this keyboard on the screen looks like it's for the hard of sight, it's so large. Almost the size of my kindle. Oh well, will be returning and going back to my S8...
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use swiftkey for keyboard and resize it smaller or just resize the Samsung keyboard

Is it very slippery?

Don't have the phone yet, but I bought a case. The case is almost exactly the same width as my Note 4 in a Commuter case. It's about a half an inch taller. I'm more concerned with the width, so glad that it is what I'm used to. Now I just need to get the phone, so that I can put it in the case.

Anyone else think the phone feels heavy? Came from a note 3 and this thing feels way heavier to me.

I will say wish the phone was wider. Overall the phone feels well balanced to the point you don't have to hold it tight.
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I owed any note for eu avaible. Actuelly note 4. Yesterday my 8 arrived. Im sorry but its a complete design (handeling) failure. The benefit of the note seriaes was to use thw spen to do notes, sketches etc. For this you need space to do the input. For this reason you need some kind of widthnees of the inputplace. Any of the manual notebooks, sketchbooks or any other kind note papers, even postit, do have an format like din, 1:1, 4:3, 3:2 but nothing you are doing your notes on is 16:whatever...