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Is it normal that I can barely last a day on a charge with this device?
My GSM devices could go at least 2 days without charging. I don't mind charging every night, but right now it would be dead before my day is over if I don't charge it at my desk too. That can't be right?
I ran bunch of test on this before i decided to keep it. One day I set it up without anything running. from 8am to 8am the next day the battery power was still 100%. Another test I did was playing audio. it went about 6 hours and I still had 20-30% battery remaining. it was loosing a about than 10%-15% per hour.
The problem is once you go on data mode it stays there and doesn't come out when it doesn't need it anymore and that drains the battery super fast. These type of programs:
-weather check
-Windows Live (for maps and searches)
-traffic
-e-mail (if you have autocheck on)
When you see the data mode (the two arrows that replace the tower icon) appeaing go in the comm manager and disable the data mode. That's obviously not a permanent solution but until figure out how to have the programs that use the data connection to return the radio to audio mode when they are done using the data mode, you can save some power.
I hope that helps.
The Mogul's battery life is definately very sensitive to the software you have running.
When I first got mine, it would barely last me 8 hours of light usage before getting the critical battery alert.
A week or two later, after a few charge/discharge cycles and a ton of configuration/software tweaks, my battery lasts all day, and is only down to 60-70 percent when I go to plug it in at night
Just to extend on what was already said, if you have outlook set up to sync automatically, set it to 5 minutes instead of "as they arrive." This made a big difference for me.
I use BatteryStatus to monitor my battery drain, and it drains at about 30-40 mA when the screen is off and when it is on and dim, around 85-100 mA or so when nothing is really active and I am at the today screen.
From my experience, the thing that affects battery life the most is the signal quality of the phone/data service. If I'm in a location where the signal is 0 or 1 bar, then the battery will drain to 20-30 percent in about 4 hours. With a strong signal, the battery only goes down to 50% for the full day.
caxiem said:
From my experience, the thing that affects battery life the most is the signal quality of the phone/data service. If I'm in a location where the signal is 0 or 1 bar, then the battery will drain to 20-30 percent in about 4 hours. With a strong signal, the battery only goes down to 50% for the full day.
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Bingo
It's not the PDA part that is draining it, it's the RF part.
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Bingo
It's not the PDA part that is draining it, it's the RF part.
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Right, so I've established that my phones lasts more than a day just fine if I'm in good service.
But is this "normal" for a CDMA phone to do? My old GSM phones could go into "searching..." for hours at a time and still have more than 50% at the end of the day. I know CDMA phones use a little more power then their GSM counterparts, but I didn't know it was THIS bad! Or is this just a bug in the system that can be fixed in the future? Being my first CDMA device, I can't tell yet what's normal or not.
GSM and CDMA RF transceivers manage power output differently. What's ironic, is that in theory CDMA handsets are suppose to manage battery power better than their GSM counterparts, sincd CDMA tranceivers continually vary the power output to match the cell tower coverage, while GSM tranceivers power a steady-state output.
Now that's in theory.... I've read numerous ancedotal articles that have compared sibling phones (same model, but one is GSM and one is CDMA) and the GSM for whatever reason performs better in terms of battery life. I know.... doesn't make sense. Two theories have been proposed by folks, one being the actual coverage for a particular area and the other that Qualcomm just basically did a poor implementation of the CDMA design in their chipsets (which are widely used by everyone).
Wish I had a better answer, but I don't have any hard evidence at the moment to say it's definitely this or that explains the difference.
There is also a configuration issue whereby data connections are not terminated after an application is done with it. Email automatic Send/Receive being one of them. Shuting down the data connection through HTC's Comm Manager doesn't solve it either. I installed this software that allows you to manually enable/disable data connections, mapped it to button 5 and have seen my battery life almost double. This of course defeats automatic email reception though.
I have changed my battery drain from 90% a day to just 10% a day by turning off bluetooth discovery! I can leave bluetooth on all day, but by turning off discovery, it seems to save a tremendous amount of power.
jaslo1 said:
I have changed my battery drain from 90% a day to just 10% a day by turning off bluetooth discovery! I can leave bluetooth on all day, but by turning off discovery, it seems to save a tremendous amount of power.
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How do you turn just 'Bluetooth Discovery' off and not Bluetooth? Registry?
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How do you turn just 'Bluetooth Discovery' off and not Bluetooth? Registry?
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start/settings/connections/bluetooth/mode/Make this device visible to other devices
This is a great thread. I always had the activesync to sync as items arrive. I bet this should help a lot. I'm going to change my weather options next. dont need constant weather updates all day long.
Basically, when I leave wi-fi on my phone has incredible battery life. If someone has already mentioned this feel free to bury this post, but to my knowledge it doesn't seem this has been posted yet.
With wi-fi off and 3g on
- Battery lost 5-6 percent per hour
Wi-fi on
- Battery lost 1-2 percent per hour (sometimes less than 1 percent depending on what your doing)
Right now after having my phone on for 34 hours my battery is still at 70 percent! I'm fairly certain this is because it disables the 3g radio altogether which apparently is a real battery hog. That or maybe my phone is just a fluke. I really don't know.
This also seems to be tied to the htc sense rom (correct me if im wrong) but if i remember correctly battery drainage increased when wifi was enabled in the stock rom. Currently, I'm using the latest htc sense rom from modaco, I'd really enjoy hearing if enabling wifi helps others extend their battery life.
your having better battery life with the Desire ROMs? that odd, my battery life with a Desire ROM was 20-30% worse compared to stock.
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Basically, when I leave wi-fi on my phone has incredible battery life. If someone has already mentioned this feel free to bury this post, but to my knowledge it doesn't seem this has been posted yet.
With wi-fi off and 3g on
- Battery lost 5-6 percent per hour
Wi-fi on
- Battery lost 1-2 percent per hour (sometimes less than 1 percent depending on what your doing)
Right now after having my phone on for 34 hours my battery is still at 70 percent! I'm fairly certain this is because it disables the 3g radio altogether which apparently is a real battery hog. That or maybe my phone is just a fluke. I really don't know.
This also seems to be tied to the htc sense rom (correct me if im wrong) but if i remember correctly battery drainage increased when wifi was enabled in the stock rom. Currently, I'm using the latest htc sense rom from modaco, I'd really enjoy hearing if enabling wifi helps others extend their battery life.
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Actually, it's a well known fact that 3G uses more power on most (every?) phones than Wifi... so you're not alone.
Hey when you say WIFI on..do you mean WIFI and EDGE or did you completely disabled the radio?
I never would have thought having wifi on would extend battery life to such a great extent though, in most of the latest cell phone reviews and what not everyone recommends to have wifi off saves battery life but in this case just the opposite is true. I kinda knew the wifi was more efficient but I never expected such a large benefit from leaving wifi on all the time.
@ram130 I haven't actually touched the radios at all so I expect them all to be on or at the very least have edge on, I am able to receive and send calls and txt so I'm assuming at least some cell radio has to be on. All I did was use the htc sense rom and enable wifi.
The cellular radio is still on, but 3G/Edge (data) are disconnected. I don't know how Edge compares to Wifi, but 3G is a battery killer in comparison.
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The cellular radio is still on, but 3G/Edge (data) are disconnected. I don't know how Edge compares to Wifi, but 3G is a battery killer in comparison.
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I never would have thought having wifi on would extend battery life to such a great extent though, in most of the latest cell phone reviews and what not everyone recommends to have wifi off saves battery life but in this case just the opposite is true. I kinda knew the wifi was more efficient but I never expected such a large benefit from leaving wifi on all the time.
@ram130 I haven't actually touched the radios at all so I expect them all to be on or at the very least have edge on, I am able to receive and send calls and txt so I'm assuming at least some cell radio has to be on. All I did was use the htc sense rom and enable wifi.
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In other words you have "use 2G networks" checked right?
I'm gonna try this is now. I'm currently at 3hr 32m unplugged with 80% left. I have wifi enabled and on the stock rom. So I'll post back when I wake in a few a hours and see how it goes.
My only problem:
Wifi seems to disconnect alot during the hour regardless if sleep policy is set to NEVER. My wifi signal is -78dBm to -86dBm in my room and on channel 11(used wifi analyzer). Any suggestions why?
I have the same experience at home, I enable Wifi and leave the phone stay home for a couple of days and battery still 40%, when I go out and wifi is not connected, 3G kicks in and battery drops much faster.
I'm using cyanogen 5.0.4.1
Interesting. Did not know this!
I guess I won't feel so bad about leaving my phone on Wifi all day!
Also, does anyone know how much power is used by not having a radio signal and letting it constantly search? That seems to destroy my battery. But sometimes I am in an area with wifi but no radio access (deep within a building).
It's too bad this phone doesn't have UMA - that would make up for T-Mobile's lack of indoor coverage (at times), and probably improve battery life a lot in some cases.
But I have to say that on another phones I've used, especially WinMo devices, using WiFi instead of 3G seemed to always use more battery. But, it could very well be different on this phone...I'm definitely going to give this a try.
im not sure about the percentage but i agree,the battery drain is considerably more when searching for radio.im in a building most of the day and it doesnt take long.miss the UMA i had on my bberry.
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Interesting. Did not know this!
I guess I won't feel so bad about leaving my phone on Wifi all day!
Also, does anyone know how much power is used by not having a radio signal and letting it constantly search? That seems to destroy my battery. But sometimes I am in an area with wifi but no radio access (deep within a building).
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I also Get. About 25% better battery on wifi
Well after 10hrs of the phone being on stand by I woke up. It was at 46%!! my god. Anyway I checked my email, read an article all taking around 15mins and guess what? I had 30% left!. I put it back to stand by for 3hrs and took a look at it and had about 16% left...
It is now charging after one hour with just 10min use of downloading apps ..Can ANYONE tell me why my battery is draining so much on wifi? When its on EDGE for the night after 10hr I would have around 70% left from a full charge. Anyone can help me out here?
I shall be getting a replacement battery for free Tuesday.
Stock android.
ram130 said:
Well after 10hrs of the phone being on stand by I woke up. It was at 46%!! my god. Anyway I checked my email, read an article all taking around 15mins and guess what? I had 30% left!. I put it back to stand by for 3hrs and took a look at it and had about 16% left...
It is now charging after one hour with just 10min use of downloading apps ..Can ANYONE tell me why my battery is draining so much on wifi? When its on EDGE for the night after 10hr I would have around 70% left from a full charge. Anyone can help me out here?
I shall be getting a replacement battery for free Tuesday.
Stock android.
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Did you set your phone to only use 2G networks also? If you're not charging, wifi will probably disable after not being used for a while..so it's probably rolling to 3G if you haven't disabled it.
I'm not saying it's convenient to constantly switch back and forth... but this explains why it may not be a good test of the battery life the way you're running it.
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Did you set your phone to only use 2G networks also? If you're not charging, wifi will probably disable after not being used for a while..so it's probably rolling to 3G if you haven't disabled it.
I'm not saying it's convenient to constantly switch back and forth... but this explains why it may not be a good test of the battery life the way you're running it.
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Well yes I have it on 2G only. Any thing else could be contributing to it dying so fast?
Well I found a way to use my laptop as an AP. So I connected my N1 to it and getting full bars(-41dBm) in my room now. No wifi disconnects so far!(maybe it was my linksys before ?).. So far the battery is at 86% with some 3D games, been unplug for 1hr 50min now. I'll put it to stand by now and see how it looks after 10hrs.
I'm on a stock firmware(not rooted). 2G only selected.
The way I understand it is as follows:
Phone is on STANDBY:
3g==2g* which are both more efficient then wifi (that's why the default wifi policy turns wifi off if it's not being used)**
Phone is ACTIVE:
wifi is more efficient then 2g/3g because:
1) It's waaay faster and thus causes less battery drain* and
2) The AP (router) is much closer to the phone then the cell tower so in theory it doesn't need to use as much power to talk to the router.
*http://code.google.com/events/io/2009/sessions/CodingLifeBatteryLife.html
4:45min into it there is a power usage chart and 3G/EDGE idle power usage is about the same - also somewhere else in the video they talk about wifi vs 3g usage when transferring data.
** http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/wiki/NewStandbyTechnique
States that 3g standby is more efficient then wifi
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** http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/wiki/NewStandbyTechnique
States that 3g standby is more efficient then wifi
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Someone needs to test this ok. ...already testing wifi
Ok I'm at 11hrs 30min on wifi and its at 67% with light usage(checking email, news for 5min)..improvement? kinda, because since turning off my laptop it switched back to getting low signal(-81dBm) from the router in the next room. Weird? I'm still thinking. anyway I'm heading out so gonna use the phone more today, lets see if it gets me through the day.
Still no where near the thread starter 30hrs!! Maybe stock really sucks? bad battery anyone??
@ram130 I'm not sure how my battery is lasting as long as it has so far. I'm up to what would be an insane number, 65 hours 36 percent left .. this battery just wont die. I haven't the slightest idea how it's lasting this long I just leave wifi on all the time and turn wifi standby off. If anyone could explain how leaving wifi on more than quadruples my battery life I'd sure love to know.
I would like to collect cell standby data from you. Cell standby is much too high, i have 1% per hour even under optimal conditions. Some users have much more and are satisfied when they reach 1% but i think this is too much. SGS1 and SGS2 are below 0,5%.
Can you post
time on battery,
remaing capacity in %,
cell standby in %
and calculate the consumption per hour:
(100 - "remaining capacity in %") * "cell standby in %" / 100 / "time on battery"
Sample:
time on battery = 5,5h
remaing capacity in % = 84
cell standby in % = 40
(100 - 84) * 40 / 100 / 5,5 = 1,16% per hour
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I build a google sheet where we can enter these information and which then calculates the average stanby drain:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ambt0PkdLr7BdEJ1alptQ2M1bFlLbm11aVdtNmtIY0E
Maybe that helps to identify those configurations without drain.
Hi,
I think this is a good idea, but it would be good to post your current ROM, Radio and Kernel plus the country and provider.
All these points could influence the cell standby. I am on 3G an have medium to good reception.
ROM Omega 5.2
Radio XLF2
Kernel Siyah 1.2.6
Country Germany
Provider O2
Standbydrain
time on battery = 4h
remaing capacity in % = 75
cell standby in % = 41
(100 - 75) * 41 / 100 / 4 = 2,56% per hour
Time on battery 6:30
stanby cell= 58%
remainig capacity=67%
ROM Foxhound 0.3
Radio XLF2
Kernel Siyah 1.2.6
Country Luxembourg
Provider Tango
(100 - 67) * 58 / 100 / 6.30 = 3,03% per hour
valerio.tosti said:
Time on battery 6:30
stanby cell= 58%
remainig capacity=67%
ROM Foxhound 0.3
Radio XLF2
Kernel Siyah 1.2.6
Country Luxembourg
Provider Tango
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I added those values to the spreadsheet.
ok you can add
signal strenght 2-3Bars
Network type 3G/Hspda
wifi On, also when display off
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how is this possible that sellman makes 35 hours?
The next few days I will switch my Radio, to see if there is any considerable impact.
whaaat 42h???? Guys commeon you are killing me!!!!
valerio.tosti said:
whaaat 42h???? Guys commeon you are killing me!!!!
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I thought the same
How unfair life can be
Cell standby seems to be
1) A modem firmware failure for those who actually have bad cell standby battery life. This seems to be caused by not entering low power mode on non active connections or switching to fast/often between the power modes.
2) The batteryprofiles.xml populates the cell idle entry with 33mA as power drain as opposed to 3mA for the S2 which has the older version of same type of hardware modem. This is absolutely retarded as the actual drain is not really that much and being reported much higher than it is.
I personally am running on 2G which is more than enough for chat, email and notifications and switch to 3G whenever I need to manually or am on Wifi. I am still on my first charge since I have gotten the phone, and I'm at around 40 hours lifetime with 4H screen time with 33% battery left. This is with around 20 reboots while flashing and testing my kernel, and playing with the phone. Over-night (8+ hours) I lose about 3%.
no cell standby issue in CM9 by the way guys
AndreiLux said:
Cell standby seems to be
1) A modem firmware failure for those who actually have bad cell standby battery life. This seems to be caused by not entering low power mode on non active connections or switching to fast/often between the power modes.
2) The batteryprofiles.xml populates the cell idle entry with 33mA as power drain as opposed to 3mA for the S2 which has the older version of same type of hardware modem. This is absolutely retarded as the actual drain is not really that much and being reported much higher than it is.
I personally am running on 2G which is more than enough for chat, email and notifications and switch to 3G whenever I need to manually or am on Wifi. I am still on my first charge since I have gotten the phone, and I'm at around 40 hours lifetime with 4H screen time with 33% battery left. This is with around 20 reboots while flashing and testing my kernel, and playing with the phone. Over-night (8+ hours) I lose about 3%.
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So what you are saying is that it is just a miscalculation? Then the voltage would still show up correct.
Any idea where to find the battery voltage?
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So what you are saying is that it is just a miscalculation? Then the voltage would still show up correct.
Any idea where to find the battery voltage?
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Yes that's what I'm saying. The whole battery statistics page in terms of percentages is absolutely useless. Not only are the modem values completely ****ed but the CPU accounting is dead wrong, the values are the same for 1400-900MHz as the Galaxy S2 values for 1200-200, with all the steps below 900MHz being reported as the S2's 200MHz current consumption (55mA). You can absolutely not rely on any of that data for now as it is absolute hogwash.
What does the voltage have anything to do with it? You can't do anything with the voltage value alone, other than maybe estimate battery charge level. Use Battery Monitor Widget if you still want to see statistics.
The Voltage would show if the battery really discharges that fast or if it just is a miscalculation, as you are stating.
My phone is dead after 20hours, no matter how I am using it. The only thing that helps is Airplane mode, but that way a phone is kind off useless.
No wifi, no app and not even the screen are killing my battery. There has to be a culprit and I am guessing, as maby others are, that it's a bug in the radio.
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The Voltage would show if the battery really discharges that fast or if it just is a miscalculation, as you are stating.
My phone is dead after 20hours, no matter how I am using it. The only thing that helps is Airplane mode, but that way a phone is kind off useless.
No wifi, no app and not even the screen are killing my battery. There has to be a culprit and I am guessing, as maby others are, that it's a bug in the radio.
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Battery discharge of course it correct, I'm just claiming that the battery statistics and break-down is absolute nonsense. I suspect that it is fast-dormancy, try idling it on 2G/EDGE and see if it's the same.
Ah, now I am getting you.
If it was Fast Dormancy that would explain why two identical setups in two different countries, with different providers are having such different runtimes.
In 2g mode fd is disabled, if I read you right? As I am wifi areas most of the time, 3g is not that important to me. Worth the try.
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Ah, now I am getting you.
If it was Fast Dormancy that would explain why two identical setups in two different countries, with different providers are having such different runtimes.
In 2g mode fd is disabled, if I read you right? As I am wifi areas most of the time, 3g is not that important to me. Worth the try.
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FD doesn't exist for 2G. So yea, basically disabled.
Added my actual data and i'm surprised. No one has an acceptable power consumption for cell standy. I hope Samsung fixes the problem.
The last hours I was running on 2g only and it didn't do any good.
Experienced nearly the same amount of battery drain than before.
I will switch to another Radio, and will keep an eye on that drain.
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At night i have only 2G because in my home where the phone "sleeps" no 3G signal is available. The signal is much more worse, only 1-2 bars, but the battery consumption is even better than with 3G. In 8 hours of Standby only 2-3% battery like it was before with my SGS1. Seems to be only a 3G problem. I checked logcat, but i don't have the fast dormancy problem. I think with 1% per hour with 3G i have a very good performance but in comparison to SGS1 its worse.
Your phone has to run a whole setup, authentication and connection procedure with the antenna each time data network is cut. However when the data network is open (especially on HSPA frequencies) it drains the battery.
So FD is a 3G feature (HSPA-Versions being different extension levels) which basically tells the antenna that your phone will now disconnect the data connection but the antenna should remember him and the state of all TCP connections.
Periodically your phone will power up the data network through a very short and speedy handshake procedure which resumes the old data connection and ask the network whether any new packets have arrived. If so, it will accept and process them and keep the data connection open for new incoming/outgoing packets until it goes back to Fast Dormancy (IDLE) mode.
The network/antenna of course has to store any incoming data packets until the phone polls it so there is a measurable multi-second delay until the data is effectively received by your phone.
The exact polling frequency is defined by your phone's internal database of network operators and is e.g. for all luxembourgish network operators 5 seconds. Therere is no single 'good' value since:
- the network has to store the data. If your phone polls too slowly it might drop the data packets or even close the connection, forcing the phone to run through the full procedure again which causes huge battery drain. (This is also true if the network _SHOULD_ support FD but in reality does not)
- the incoming data packets are delayed by up to X seconds, X being the polling frequency. So you might e.g. only see incoming chat messages several seconds after them having been sent if the phone is in IDLE mode.
- too high polling frequencies put a high strain on the network (to the extend that they might refuse your mobile to reconnect for a certain timespan) and kills your battery fairly quickly.
Furthermore FD only works for incoming data packets, not outgoing ones.
If your phone sends a message, it will directly go to fully-awake 3G network until fast dormancy kicks in again after a certain idle period.
Now, basically FD is a very good solution to 3G's battery drain, however it only works if your phone does not send data and does not constanctly receive data. (Additionally of course, the FD network setup must be correctly configured with sane values... I've seen carrier-provided setups of 1 second Fast-Dormancy interval)
If you have apps which keep data connections open and constantly send/receive small amounts of data (e.g. Skype, ICQ, Msn, Facebook, ...) FD is more or less worthless for your setup and might only cause a huge battery drain.
Furthermore at least my provider (Tango, Luxembourg) sometimes shows bad cases of antenna hopping when waking up from FD which drains the battery even more.
(Antenna hopping is if the antenna tells your mobile phone to connect to an other antenna because it's overloaded or it knows that the other one has significantly more capacity available. However if not properly managed by a supervising instance, this may cause several antennas to play ping-pong with you and keep moving you to other antennas)
2G on the other hand doesn't know what FD is for a very simple reason; it uses the same frequencies for data network and voice. The latter has to be connected at all times anyway, so keeping the network connection open only causes insignificant battery drain. (As long as the device is actively sending/receiving data the battery usage will of course get higher)
So if you want your phone to be connected at all times (Chat, Push notifications, Emails, ...) you'd keep it in 2G. But due to 3G having a better KB/W ratio and being MUCH faster, you should switch when browsing the net.
There is a (paid) app for automated 3G/2G switching when the phone is idle which additionally can enable/disable Wifi when you're in range of a configured network based on it learning your exact location from signal changes of the coarse network-based location.
That app is called Juice Defender Beta (you need the 'Ultimate' donation key to unlock all the features) and so far works flawlessly on my phone.
(Additionally it can automatically dim the display below the minimum-brightness which is cool at night )
If the phone has a very high network drain in 2G too you most likely are either constantly receiving/sending data (e.g. Skype, I recommend using IM+ Pro and configuring it with Push notifications when in the background) or using an Exchange account which seems to have a battery-drain issue in Samsung stock firmwares.
I used to have this problem where my cell/mobile standby would be around 18% after 24 hours. Thats a lot of drain. I looked in several places for a solution but didn't find any. I even did a factory reset but still had the problem.
So I shifted my sim into the sim slot 2 and the problem was gone. Right now I have used the phone for 24 hours and the cell/mobile standby is at 8%
So that fixes that
eventhough the cell/mobile standby shows up in my battery stats on first place I dont have the feeling that it really consumes that much energy that it shows
my SOT is still great 6h+ with high usage so I guess it is a display error
ckret said:
eventhough the cell/mobile standby shows up in my battery stats on first place I dont have the feeling that it really consumes that much energy that it shows
my SOT is still great 6h+ with high usage so I guess it is a display error
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Really? How much is your drain due to cell standby after 24 hours? Or even 18 or so hours.
Shifting my sim into sim slot 2 did not fix it.
Does anybody know how to fix it?
Try switching off wifi scanning and Bluetooth scanning under location settings. Also disable location history. It gives a better mobile standby. But even this is not a stable measure to stop abnormal battery drain by standby. Even I suffer from the same issue.
I believe its a software bug. Most people say they get good battery. Even i do. But I just can't digest the fact that mobile standby is using up quarter of the charge (250-300mAh in 3 hours) when the standby in my old Moto G2 uses negligible battery (60mAh in 13 hours).
Hi guys,
Hope you all doing great.
Guys i have LG V20 n using from last year. It was working great without any issue. Battery timing was awesome. Giving me 5:30 to 6 hours screen on time. Almost day and Half on normal use. 2 days back something happened no idea what. Now phone idle using more then screen on time and wifi is always on even its off. I tired to uninstall app, then factory reset but still same.... No luck.... Any solution ??
Go to your location setting use the tab in upper right, click setting and turn wifi scanning off.
I tried this but no luck
As i mentioned i tried everything thing, like location off, wifi and Bluetooth scanning off, play services off, Almost everything is off, but still same. No luck...
shazzi said:
As i mentioned i tried everything thing, like location off, wifi and Bluetooth scanning off, play services off, Almost everything is off, but still same. No luck...
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Try to install battery monitor application (I use betterbatterystats) to find out what is causing your idle drain. But to be honest, I've never got 5-6 SOT. My idle drain is about 0,7% per hour with greenify, managed Google play services wakeup, custom kernel, kernel adiutor and about 80 apps on board.
I'll try and help the best I can..
Within the last year or so..I have been reading about this issue quite often. That is, people posting about "Phone Idle" having high percentage in battery stats. And then they are off to hunt down the culprit. The truth is, "Phone Idle" is NOT eating up your battery. Phone Idle is just that.... Time the phone has spent being idle (being still, or CPU/Battery not being used). Or in this case, percentage of total battery "usage" that belongs to "Phone Idle". In actuality, phone idle isn't "using" anything. The "usage" for phone idle is really time NOT used. A higher percentage is better. If your phone sat for 2 days straight without being used...the phone idle % will be real high. Also, you can't "Greenify" phone idle. You only greenify phone idle when you greenify other apps.....think about it.
And as for Wifi. The Wifi radio on this phone is a bit more power hungry. It doesn't even include any power saving options that some phones, like my Samsung S4 has. My S4 used on average from 2% - 6% depending on signal strength. The V20 can use from 7% - 11% ..again depending on signal strength. If you leave Wifi on overnight and it's in bad proximity to the router..10-11% is normal.
What is your average signal strength for your 4G and cellular (calls)? CDMA has 1X, I'm not sure what GSM uses. If it's in the high 90's and higher, that right there could be chewing up your battery. Phone radio often doesn't even show on the usage list.
How often do you need to charge? Also how much time between a charge and what is your usual screen on time now..after you wrote this post? Phone idle is only at the top because the "idle" time now exceeds the amount of time you have your screen on. ......don't take this the wrong way but some people think the phone idle is actually something that's draining the battery. It's not..it's just placed within the list. Ignore the Mah it shows for it. That just assumes it's some app and it tries to convert everything into mah..and I really don't know how accurate that is. But it obviously doesn't apply to Phone Idle. Speaking of...what is the amount of phone idle time?