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Galaxy S2 SIM-free owners last to get ICS, Samsung UK admits

Samsung Galaxy S2 owners who bought their device SIM-free are at the back of the UK Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade queue, Samsung has confirmed to CNET UK.
And the reason you've been kept waiting? It's because Samsung is waiting for some mobile networks to finish testing the update, so it can be sure the software will work whatever network you're on.
SIM-free S2 owners will get the ICS update "once we've got all of the operator pieces on board", said Simon Stanford, VP of Samsung Telecommunications and Networks for Samsung UK and Ireland, speaking exclusively to CNET UK today.
The upgrade process Samsung has used to push out ICS to S2 owners means SIM-free devices can't be updated until all mobile networks have tested and approved ICS -- and since some operators are still testing and approving the update, some SIM-free S2 owners are still waiting to get Ice Cream Sandwich.
'It's got to work'
"We work in conjunction with our partners to bring ICS to the existing base -- that's primarily what needs to happen, whatever network operator that may be," said Stanford. "In this particular instance, the open market variant [ie SIM-free] you would expect to come out first."
Stanford confirmed, however, SIM-free S2 owners have been left twisting in the wind. "As an open-market customer you will be on a variety of networks, so it's got to work on whichever network you have chosen," he said.
SIM-free S2 owners -- many of whom shelled out extra upfront for an unlocked handset in the hopes of being at the front of the upgrade queue -- have in fact trailed operators such as Three, which was the first operator to release the ICS update. O2 has also now pushed out the ICS update.
"We were working with our operators to make sure that we brought it out to as many people as we can," Stanford added. "Vodafone we're expecting imminently [to release ICS]. Open market will be once we've got all of the operator pieces on board... It'll come at very much the same time."
'We don't want to disadvantage anyone'
Stanford would not confirm exactly how many SIM-free S2 owners have received the ICS update so far, nor give a completion date for the ICS update rollout -- he would only say: "We're really pushing it hard over the next coming weeks."
"It's always very tight, in terms of the testing processes and all the rest of it," he said. "It's not a switch in Korea and then the whole thing just activates every device that is out there... We work very closely with the networks to help them get ICS out.
"Everyone holds their hands up and says, 'Well, we need to do more in these instances.'"
Asked whether consumers would be better off buying a device from a network rather than SIM-free if they want to ensure they get future Android updates promptly, Stanford said: "In this instance [they would have been better off on a network]. Moving forward, I anticipate the upgrades will come a lot faster, at once, with everybody."
He added that it's not Samsung's intention to prioritise SIM-free device buyers in future, rather it wants to level the playing field so everyone gets the update around the same time.
"We don't want to disadvantage anyone, we don't want to say that they have to buy it from anywhere, we want everyone to have the same experience, whether or not it's open-market, network, to us they're exactly the same," he said.
'Communication can be managed better next time'
Stanford conceded that communications is an area where Samsung can make its own improvements. And he apologised to any SIM-free S2 owners who have been disappointed by how long it's taken to get ICS.
"The communication itself can be managed a bit better next time," he said. "It's just an ongoing process piece that we work very closely on to try and make sure we get it absolutely bang on so we apologise to anyone -- we really apologise to anyone -- who has been disappointed by this.
"We're always desperate to get [updates] out as fast as we can, there's no reason for us not to. We don't like to have unhappy customers, it goes against everything that we do. We do take it very seriously. It's communication sometimes we need to work on -- I accept that. That there needs to be perhaps more overall communication with the partners involved as well," he said.
"We are happy now that ICS is rolling out and those people that we've spoken to are very happy with it," Stanford added. "We're always looking for ways to speed it up -- with regards to Galaxy Note... the upgrade on that will be a lot quicker."
Are you still waiting for your SIM-free S2 to be upgraded to ICS? Let us know in the comments, or post your own update over on our Facebook page, and watch my video below to see what you're missing.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/galaxy-s2-sim-free-owners-last-to-get-ics-samsung-admits-50007550/

We're all boned then. Orange can, and do, take months to release any updates, if they can even be bothered! They'll need to make sure that every last stinking piece of their foul bloatware can work on ICS.

Teppic24 said:
We're all boned then. Orange can, and do, take months to release any updates, if they can even be bothered! They'll need to make sure that every last stinking piece of their foul bloatware can work on ICS.
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I have unlcoked phone and i will just keep flashing other country firmwares untill samsung finsh testing it on all these networks

This is a joke in all fairness, however if you're on XDA there's no reason why this should affect your ability to get hold of ICS.
But, for the majority of the population (who aren't on XDA) this is just unforgivable.

Worth waiting for a finished ICS six months down the line . No way will i change to the current half baked versions .
jje

No issues on xlpq with Orange sim on Carphone Warehouse SII
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Network testing haha. Why have other countries got the unbranded update straight away ? But here in the uk we wait for the networks to test. I think uk networks have some sort of deal with samsung or it maybe to do with sgs3. But "waiting for networks to test" jus isnt gna fly cz that a lie.
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This really is a sorry excuse for logic. To really follow it would mean Samsung UK has to wait till ALL cellular carriers around the world confirm the UK SGS2 SIM-Free ICS update works with their networks?!
Otherwise, there *might* be some unfortunate UK SGS2 SIM-Free owner running ICS that encounters problems when he moves to Timbuktu and use his phone with the local cell network!
Samsung UK... YOU SUCK!

Does suck but how many ordinary citizens even know about ice cream sandwich, most people don't have a clue I bet a lot of people are still on the original firmwares that shipped with the phone. My sister wanted to go back to gingerbread as she thinks battery life on ICS sucked even though she got the official O2 update.
So for normal citizens who use a phone without worrying about updates this won't effect them but for us and other geeks and such its bothersome but hey that's why we come here and flash whatever comes our way from other countries regardless if it's final or not or buggy but because we can.
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Unbelievable! Why did I spend 650 dollars!
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Can anyone comment which is the best ICS stock unbranded FW version to use with SpoofFW on SGS2 XEU?
Poland, Russia, Luxemburg, Baltics, Cyprus...? Does it even matter?

cc999 said:
Unbelievable! Why did I spend 650 dollars!
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...because it's an amazing phone, one of the best available

cc999 said:
Unbelievable! Why did I spend 650 dollars!
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You spent the money on great hardware and rock solid gingerbread.
Free software upgrades to a complete new system are a relatively new thing. You can expect / demand updates to GB but to ICS I don't think so.
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Love the why did I spend money comments! And this update is FREE, remember when apple was charging to get the ios 3.0 update? Give it a rest, and if your sooooo adamant on getting ics, there are many available downloads right here on these pages. Otherwise, the 1% of s2 owners on this forum aren't going to make a blip on samsungs radar when the 19,999,000 are happy with there phones.
Relax, be happy, there are worse things going on in the world at the moment.
Have a nice day
Hey, I also sent this from my Galaxy S2 using Tapatalk..

If you look at it another way, Samsung are using everyone else as unpaid beta testers, so us unbranded people get a polished update. (Ok, I bought mine from T-Mobile, but I'm running an unbranded firmware.)
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Teppic24 said:
We're all boned then. Orange can, and do, take months to release any updates, if they can even be bothered! They'll need to make sure that every last stinking piece of their foul bloatware can work on ICS.
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and? Just upgrade your phone now to ICS like I did
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ICS came out last year and 5 months waiting for what?
By the time we get ICS google is gonna release Jelly Bean and we are gonna be excited for a sec and then remember when we actually got ICS and be sad for another year until we get all new phones and same **** happens...
Amazing world we live in

What a load of crap.
Unbranded updates for Galaxy S and SII always came either first or alongside Optus release, here in Australia - Telstra only just released 2.3.6 last month and the rest of the carriers and unbranded was released many months ago.
It just doesn't add up. Track record shows this excuse is a total load of bs.
Why the hell isn't Samsung responsible for testing the carriers? For example Samsung Australia division should be totally responsible for testing the Unbranded version of all 4 carrier networks. These phones are not even sold by the carriers so it's not their responsibility !!
This is so damn lazy of Samsung.

Yeah right. They just dont want the carriers to ***** that others are getting the update before their customers are. Just like how they didnt want to make sure every carriers phone were working ok before selling people this device unlocked and just how they didnt care to update people after 2.3.4. My phone has had problems since then and samsung hasnt cared to update. This just leaves a bad taste in my mouth from samsung. I wanted the S3 but I dont even know if I want to buy a phone they arent going to update.
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Markbaja said:
Love the why did I spend money comments! And this update is FREE, remember when apple was charging to get the ios 3.0 update?
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That never happened. They never charged.
TheReverend210 said:
If you look at it another way, Samsung are using everyone else as unpaid beta testers, so us unbranded people get a polished update. (Ok, I bought mine from T-Mobile, but I'm running an unbranded firmware.)
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Yeah right. Unbranded devices never got updated past 2.3.4 and its been buggy. Anytime I restart my phone the icons move around and I have to move them back. Dont think you a moment you are getting a more polished update. You are getting the same update that has been psoted on here from some random carrier from a country you probably have never heard it. Pathetic Samsung. They even lied to us saying we would have it by the end of Q1.

Samsung UK are crap, exactly the same as when our GS2 was stuck on 2.3.3 and I knew for a fact that newer ones with the same product code were shipping with, or updating to 2.3.4, and all they kept saying was no update was available, just vecause they couldn't be bothered to fix the original HIDSWVER that they'd forgotten to add updates for.
In the end last weekend I flashed the Polish LPS onto it as it kept locking up, seems to be ok now. And the Polish LPS one includes the generic UK (XEU) and generic CPW UK (CPW), csc customisation packs anyway, so no reason at all for Samsung UK to be making up this BS. It even comes with all the UK network APN settings preloaded in it. I've never seen an unbranded update come after branded ones until this mess. Same as O2 on 2.3.6 with Gingerbread, and unbranded on 2.3.4 (or in my case 2.3.3). People buy unbranded to get a clean update, not to wait for all the branded crap to be tested.

So when do you think Android 4.4 (KitKat) will come to North America for the GN?

I guess this is going to be the last hold up thread for KitKat since Samsung decided they could probably get more Americans to buy the billion new Galaxy Note devices they've launched instead of giving the original Note 10.1 a update.
< My N8013 is on Android 4.1.2 and has been that way since I got it April 2013 and it auto-updated from 4.0.
I am surprised how long its been since Samsung has updated this tablet. My previous tablet that was riddled with problems (ASUS Transformer Prime/Infinity) which is how I became a Samsung user, that tablet at least got Android 4.2 before ASUS moved on.
This is a lovely tablet. I hope the delay is due to Samsung giving us the best KitKat update, with all the apps that the current Galaxy Note 10.1 receives.

Maybe Tomorrow ... Likely Never
the_game_master said:
I guess this is going to be the last hold up thread for KitKat since Samsung decided they could probably get more Americans to buy the billion new Galaxy Note devices they've launched instead of giving the original Note 10.1 a update.
< My N8013 is on Android 4.1.2 and has been that way since I got it April 2013 and it auto-updated from 4.0.
I am surprised how long its been since Samsung has updated this tablet. My previous tablet that was ridiculed with problems (ASUS Transformer Prime/Infinity) which is how I became a Samsung user, that tablet at least got Android 4.2 before ASUS moved on.
This is a lovely tablet. I hope the delay is due to Samsung giving us the best KitKat update, with all the apps that the current Galaxy Note 10.1 receives.
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Nobody is sure that it will. Seems Samsung is updating 3g 4g devices and those sold by Carriers only.
I predict Samsung will Drop support for every device below there new S line in the near future.

Ive only had my note 10.1 lte just over a year. its a shame there isnt an update yet.

i'm fine with my N8013 running the KitKat build from the N8000 right now for the most part. The only thing that bothers me is that USB devices won't work properly on this build.
If Samsung ever will release KitKat for my N8013, I'll be glad to update, but until then, the XDA forums has done a nice job keeping the device relevant

hey atleast you guys can run roms, im not even sure what I could run without bricking. lol
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You never know when it comes to Samsung. They started in Europe, Germany, France, jumped to Asia and let other european country without updates. Im waiting to get Nordic version, but it seems to be that there is no sense at all. They are jumping from continent to other, so maybe they jump next to America. Which part? south or north, maybe middle or Greenland. LOL so you can only wait and see.
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enigma_x said:
You never know when it comes to Samsung. They started in Europe, Germany, France, jumped to Asia and let other european country without updates. Im waiting to get Nordic version, but it seems to be that there is no sense at all. They are jumping from continent to other, so maybe they jump next to America. Which part? south or north, maybe middle or Greenland. LOL so you can only wait and see.
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Yes . but there is a Solid trend.The tablets they are updated are the ones that have data services or SOLD By Cell Carriers. the n8000 n8020.. they updated the g tab 3 Carrier Branded model number..
I also have a note 2 phone on 4.3 t- mobile. I suspect it will NOT Get another update. Thou like some on with the 10.1 there are some roms out there from the at-t Varient that works . But there is a twist and it could be the same with some people in here. There are random number of people who brick there phone flashing said roms when they follow the instructions exactly right. Has me a bit scared. Its suspected some of the note 2 t-mobile phones have a different board level components that is causing this.
anyway Sorry for my Ramblings
They are only Thoughts and nothing solid.

I dont know, i never would buy a carrier variant, and I dont have to because we dont have that kind of business here. What I have understood the carrier thing actually delays updates, because they need to build those differend kinds of variant firmwares that have to be tested and accepted by all parties.
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There are numerous 4.4.2 ROMs for the n8000 dropping on sammobile.com, but not a single WiFi only variant. Wth.
Oh and the supposedly most up to date N7 hasn't been upgraded with 4.4.3 for the LTE version. Its the only N7 that hasn't received the update. Seems I always get the devices that the manufacturer releases and forgets.

The update of the 8010 which is wifi only is a good sign for those of us with wifi only versions. I have an 8013 so maybe there is an update soon for us.
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I hope it hits the U.S. soon. I have an 8013 and wouldnlove to update it soon.
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looks like we have been forgotten. just returned from S Korea. The prez of Samsung had a heart attack or something and cannot run the business. Son will take over. This is what I heard. Maybe this is the issue.

dtl said:
looks like we have been forgotten. just returned from S Korea. The prez of Samsung had a heart attack or something and cannot run the business. Son will take over. This is what I heard. Maybe this is the issue.
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Unlikely. Big corporations aren't run directly by top management like that. Unless we hear of a major shakeup that affects the tablet division, it's more likely that it's just delayed or deferred. What makes this so surreal is that the N8010 is essentially identical to the N8013, neither are 3G devices - so it's weird that the 8010 has been updated, but the 8013 hasn't.
Still if it never shows, you can always upgrade using the 8010 ROM, annoying as that is.

TheWerewolf said:
Unlikely. Big corporations aren't run directly by top management like that. Unless we hear of a major shakeup that affects the tablet division, it's more likely that it's just delayed or deferred. What makes this so surreal is that the N8010 is essentially identical to the N8013, neither are 3G devices - so it's weird that the 8010 has been updated, but the 8013 hasn't.
Still if it never shows, you can always upgrade using the 8010 ROM, annoying as that is.
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That is true. Also I was thinking of going the 8010 route, but I guess I will wait a bit longer.
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I think Samsung has something against me personally. Just kidding, but really, I have a t-mobile t999L GS3. Every other carrier in North America has updated their identical devices to kitkat except tmobile. And I have the 8013, which basically the same thing has happened. What are the chances?
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I think Samsung just said F it. They want to sell more tablets. But its not like the update is gonna be worth a crap anyway. It's not like they're changing the whole UI. I think it's BS. That is why I most likely won't buy another Samsung tablet. No reason why this hasn't been updated yet.
I am Aquaman!

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That is why I most likely won't buy another Samsung tablet.
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I know, I dont.
Althought Note 10.1 has a great spen and it ws also the first reason I bought it, I definitely wont do same mistake again. I stay far away from Samsung. When you buy their flagship, you expect that it has also premium support. But no, even their crappest cheap plastic frisbees have gotten better support.
I dont know, but I probably buy a new android phone when I replace my Note (yes this is also my huge phone) and for a tablet, im thinking about getting Surface Pro 3 and maybe iPad Air2 if they have fixed the problem iPad Air has alot... but what ever I do, Samsung hasnt anything to do with it.
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enigma_x said:
I know, I dont.
Althought Note 10.1 has a great spen and it ws also the first reason I bought it, I definitely wont do same mistake again. I stay far away from Samsung. When you buy their flagship, you expect that it has also premium support. But no, even their crappest cheap plastic frisbees have gotten better support.
I dont know, but I probably buy a new android phone when I replace my Note (yes this is also my huge phone) and for a tablet, im thinking about getting Surface Pro 3 and maybe iPad Air2 if they have fixed the problem iPad Air has alot... but what ever I do, Samsung hasnt anything to do with it.
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I'm kinda liking what LG is bringing to the table. I have the NOTE 3 but the G3 is pretty impressive phone. If LG proves itself with a good tablet and good software support, I will jump ship and go back to LG like I was before smart phones emerged.
I am Aquaman!

So it is easy to lose track of time. The other note 10.1 2012 models have all been updated over a month ago. Did we miss that train? Or do you think it still might happen for the gt n8013??
gt n8000 48 days ago
gt n8010 36 days ago
gt n8020 33 days ago
gt n8013 ??? nothing yet.
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I'm kinda liking what LG is bringing to the table. I have the NOTE 3 but the G3 is pretty impressive phone. If LG proves itself with a good tablet and good software support, I will jump ship and go back to LG like I was before smart phones emerged.
I am Aquaman!
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+100 ! I have the Note and LG Optimus Pro. I have NEVER flashed away from LG stock because it is such a good phone and stock is just super. Its screen is 10x better and I realize what I have been missing. EVERYTHING on the LG just works ALL the time...
Cannot wait for LG G3 and dump Samsung. LG updated to Kitkat so long ago (calculated in XDA waiting days!!)
Samsung is a slipshod operation with hyper advertising..... The truth is they were the only one to take Apple on, but it does not mean they made great products.
OK, enough ranting !!!

S5 received 5.0, looks like we should be getting ours soon!

Source Sammobile!
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Early 2015 my friend. My note 4 needs a lollipop
"fighting as one hand one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares"

nano303 said:
Early 2015 my friend. My note 4 needs a lollipop
"fighting as one hand one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares"
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Looks like who ever told you that is wrong. They said the same thing about the s5 now look over at their forum. I'm putting my money on sometime in the next 2 weeks

The carrier S5 wont receipt lolipop for quite a while longer, just because the international one got it doesn't mean we will.

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The carrier S5 wont receipt lolipop for quite a while longer, just because the international one got it doesn't mean we will.[/QUOTE
We probably won't get official until a month or so.
most certainly we will get some ports.
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I could care less about lollipop honestly. My Note 4 is butter.

Doesn't anyone read anymore? By that I mean the history of US carrier updates vs. international updates. We go through this EVERY OS upgrade. International phones are unlocked with no carrier bloat or needed approvals. Samsung can push the OS updates right to them or through Kies. The US Carriers receive the proposed update from Samsung, it then gets a pile of bloat that the carrier wants added to it, it goes back to Samsung for that and Samsung testing, then sent to the US Carrier for testing....IF...IF all is well, then the carrier then decides when is the best time to push out the update...maybe it is strategically approximated just AFTER a new phone comes out hoping people will rush to get the new device already updated....maybe it would be a slow period when they know they can dedicate their customer service to anyone out there having problems with the OTA...bottom line is it takes quite some time after the international phones get their update before any US Carrier sees it. And luckily for you guys it is usually Sprint and T-Mobile that stay ahead of that curve...my guess is the locked bootloaders and security on the other 2 carriers slows them down.

I Think you know already that no one reads anymore!

I doubt anyone reads anymore lol , its the same drill year in year out .
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Stupid...your reading what you write. That's not reading? Lol !!! I read articles allllll the time. Reading Is the sht
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I could care less about lollipop honestly. My Note 4 is butter.
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Don't say that bro it might be butter but lollipop is a higher grade butter I can tell you my wife note 3 running lollipop runs better than my note 4

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the latest flavor of Google's mobile operating system is now available for the GS5 in Poland, blog site SamMobile said Wednesday. Poland has been used by mobile device makers as a starting point to test out new Android updates before it spreads around the world. As such, the Polish launch is a good sign that Lollipop should soon start to pop up in other regions.
The Polish version of the Galaxy S5 has the same model number as the version used in Europe, according to blog site SlashGear, which means European users could be next on the list. Samsung is also likely to launch Android 5.0 in its home base of South Korea at some point in the near future.
A similar scenario has played out with LG's G3 smartphone. Owners of the phone residing in Poland were first on the list to receive a bite of Lollipop. Just a couple of weeks later, G3 owners in South Korea started seeing the update appear on their devices. Android 5.0 could reach GS5 owners in other regions before the month and year are over.
The US is a different story, however. Android updates in the US can take awhile as they have to be tested by not only the device makers but also the mobile carriers who must also certify and plan the rollout. As such, Galaxy S5 owners in the US are unlikely to get a lick of Lollipop until 2015.
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We won't see it till February.
BAD ASS NOTE 4

With that spelled out and rumor dispelled
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US Unlock Vs ATT version

Hi All,
Does anyone get change to check new US unlock version available from last week, I am thinking to get that, how good it is like
- Can I get it rooted?
- How it is different from ATT version from H/W specs prospective
Thanks
Prashant

prashant.saraf said:
Hi All,
Does anyone get change to check new US unlock version available from last week, I am thinking to get that, how good it is like
- Can I get it rooted?
- How it is different from ATT version from H/W specs prospective
Thanks
Prashant
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I just got the US unlocked version today: same exact hardware. Just no carrier apps or bloat. I have no intention of rooting as it will break Samsung and Android pay which I use.

Thanks..

I can report voLTE and wifi-calling work with the unlocked version on T-Mobile. Like the previous poster stated, there is no bloat or carrier apps. Tethering works out of the box.
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Do you notice any improvement in multitasking or overall system speed? I'm trying to determine how much of a difference bloat is making in my overall experience.

I don't have a carrier version to compare it to but so far the phone is pretty snappy. I haven't had any issues with ram management or slow downs.
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Interesting my new unlocked US version is still on May security updates while all carrier versions are on July update. Not a good sign if Samsung is prioritizing carrier versions and ignoring the unlocked version.

Same here May security date. With the phone just launching I'm guessing they will go straight to the July update, bringing it up to the carrier versions.
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kirdroid said:
Interesting my new unlocked US version is still on May security updates while all carrier versions are on July update. Not a good sign if Samsung is prioritizing carrier versions and ignoring the unlocked version.
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Yes, and that is what I am worrying about. Remember the Samsung Galaxy S4 Dev Edition? There was not ONE single update.
I hope this phone doesn't fall into the same camp. I have a 30 day return period w/ BH Photo so if there are no updates by Aug 1, it will be returned. I already initiated the RMA process to be on the safe side and have my form should I need it.

markwebb said:
Yes, and that is what I am worrying about. Remember the Samsung Galaxy S4 Dev Edition? There was not ONE single update.
I hope this phone doesn't fall into the same camp. I have a 30 day return period w/ BH Photo so if there are no updates by Aug 1, it will be returned. I already initiated the RMA process to be on the safe side and have my form should I need it.
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Nice good strategy, my 14 day return window in best buy will be the coming weekend. I think I'll just keep and see how it goes. If they aren't updating I'm going to sell this when next Nexus comes anyway and probably will not bother with unbranded versions of Samsung phones.
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Hows the snapdragon processor? Do you guys enjoy your phones without root or full control of your own phone?

How's strong is the signals?

kirdroid said:
Nice good strategy, my 14 day return window in best buy will be the coming weekend. I think I'll just keep and see how it goes. If they aren't updating I'm going to sell this when next Nexus comes anyway and probably will not bother with unbranded versions of Samsung phones.
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I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.

markwebb said:
I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.
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Nice. I was wondering when the update would push out for this phone.
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kirdroid said:
Interesting my new unlocked US version is still on May security updates while all carrier versions are on July update. Not a good sign if Samsung is prioritizing carrier versions and ignoring the unlocked version.
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The unlocked devices were just released. They will probably start getting updates faster now.
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markwebb said:
I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.
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Well darn, I'm still on May. Set system clock forwards and no update. We shall see.
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tvprocks said:
How's strong is the signals?
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Signal seems comparable if not slightly better than my iPhone 6s that I own.
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markwebb said:
I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.
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Nice!!! You have the edge or the regular S7. Still nothing on my S7 and nothing shows on smart switch as well. Also are you using this on AT&T or T-Mobile?
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markwebb said:
I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.
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Can you screenshot the info page so that I can see the build number?

Anyone know if there is VoLTE on at&t with the unlocked version? This is a deal breaker for me. Not really worried about video or wifi calling.

So are we getting it or not?

I'm a little confused. Has the update been halted world wide or just in China?

They're only going to release it for the Note 7.

raduque said:
They're only going to release it for the Note 7.
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I heard the Galaxy S3 would be getting it before us too.

New to Verizon?
You must be new to Verizon. They are notoriously slow for releasing updates. They have very little incentive to care about updates since a phone that doesn't get updates or doesn't have the most recent update might push a customer to just buy a new phone that does have it. Coincidentally, they usually wait to push the updates until right after the latest flagship phone release. So don't expect to get Nougat (besides the beta which is easy to install, works great but disables Gear VR) anytime soon, most likely April after the S8 comes out.

New models will be out with the updates about the time Verizon allows us to have an update to the S7. Same every year.

Sometime between February and September, I'd say ?
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