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I'm interested to know how others are getting on with the music tab in HTC sense. It took me a long time to get round to buying a 16GB card, but now I have I'm struggling to get the Music tab to function.
With a small collection of music it works just fine. However as I increase the collection at some point it breaks, so that it will only play a few seconds of a track before stopping, usually accompanied by a spinning circle in the top left of the screen, when that stops spinning the music stops. Something to do with indexing I'm assuming.
My music is organised in a fairly standard \Storage Card\Music\<Artist>\<Album>\ style format so there are no individually huge folders My favoured bitrate has been 192 so the files shouldn't be too big. I've tried syncing with Windows Media Player and with Mediamonkey. I've had mediamonkey convert all files as it syncs to WMA format or to MP3 at constant bitrate. All with the same results.
Who has the music tab functioning well with several GB's worth of music on their card? What settings did you use?
Of course I can just have WMP as a quick link on my first line whic happily plays everything and retains bluetooth AVRCP fuctionality. However the Music Tab interface is far nicer when it works.
<no longer true>My music tab isn't funtioning AT ALL, let alone well. It lists all my music (only 4 albums for experimenting, all tagged) alphabetically, and only draws the top half of the embedded albumart.
Doesn't even attempt to play, just sits there. Click next track, same - just draws half teh album art then sits there. Phone isn't hung or anything, just doesn't play.
Shame really, but i've not had it a week yet, so I'm gonna ignore it for now, and i'll look into it deeper once I have stopped playing with all the other bits.</no longer true>
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Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
samsamuel said:
**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
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Yes,
I think using ActiveSync organises the files into a more easily accessible format/location, which is why I suggested it. Good to know that everything is working ok for you now though
OK, so I backed up everything on the card. Formatted the card using the phones built in application. Copied everything back except the music files.
Used Mediamonkey and set up an auto-conversion rule to convert everything it syncs to MP3 format at 192 bitrate whether it needs converting or not.
Updated the library in Media player on the HD2.
reset the HD2 and let the music tab re-index everything.
Everything is now working perfectly. Thanks for the opinions. Whether it was the phone format or just that I hadn't actually used those exact rules for syncing I can't say as mediamonkey was origionally setup to only convert files if it had to. I had issues with Windows Media Player missing out files.
Gajet said:
Everything is now working perfectly.
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Everything still perfect? I am almost able to sync without incident, but the "audio manager" crashes at the end of every sync (and, when prompted by the phone, I keep reporting the crash to Microsoft even though I don't expect them to get back to me anytime soon).
It also seems like I have to do a soft reset after each sync to shake out all of the bugs (missing album art, unplayable song files, etc.)
FWIW, I'm only syncing about 30 songs now until I have this sorted out, so having GBs worth of files isn't the problem (I was NEVER able to get 8GB of music to work in Manila's music tab on my Raphael).
id say that sounds more like an active sync issue.its never been the most stable program. why not simply connect in hard drive mode (or put memory card in card reader) and just drag and drop the music to it , then let the phone find it all itself.that'd be my preferred method.
gargon01 said:
Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
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How do you format the card from the Phone?
kochavy said:
How do you format the card from the Phone?
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I can jump in and answer that one - press the Window key (third one along on the bottom) (or press the button at the top left) and go to tools and there at the bottom is a button to format the SD card.
One thing I would like to see is the ability for the player to decode .ogg files - I love gapless playback, and really miss it with mp3's. I am trying to rip some stuff now, but it is a pain having to rip multiple tracks to one mp3 file just to avoid the hop skip and jump when playing back.
All the best.
rjstep3
When I was having issues with my music tab I followed the format SD card and organised into Artist/Album/tracks but what really worked for me was converting my entire library into LAME mp3. 1500+ songs are now working perfectly. I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
Hoodeddeathman said:
I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
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dBpoweramp is certainly very good - but don't forget the free options as well, including foobar, Exact Audio Copy and Freerip3 - just Google for them.
rjstep3
i am also having a problem with the music.tab on the htc hd2. at first i was really plsased.with this phone but no w i am havekng countless problems with it...such as cudnt play videos with utube app installed...now this music nonsense.....i have spent toooo much mone on this phone t be getin these poblems and alsopurchased a 16gb card....i live tge hd2 .if only there was less problems
nyway has anyone found a working solution
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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I don't know why that would be, but if it works then it works!
I have a "MUSIC" folder on my SD card, and in that I have artist sub-folders and then within them I have album sub-folders. It all works fine for me. This is literally the same folder that I've had for the past 3 WM phones, and I just copied it there manually, without using any type of synch.
Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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Could be because of the length of the path/filename when sub folders are used?
EG
theartistfoldernamedartist/thenameofthealbum/theartistfoldernamedartist-thenameofthealbum-thetracknumber.mp3
Perhaps the scanner struggles to cope with long path/filenames?
Ive got this problem and i was wondering if it had anything to do with the quality of the storage card?
Edit:
REASON FOUND
"One bad apple spoils the barrel"
One badly encoded mp3 will make the entire player stop. I found this while playing mp3s on music tab whilst transfering new mp3s through drag and drop (active sync) as soon as one particular mp3 was transferred the player stop and music would stop after 2-5secs. After deleting this file and reaccessing music tab library it was back to normal.
Suggestions: leave music player on whilst drag and dropping so you can figure out which are the problem files.
Alternatively: Re-encode your mp3s, either all or the problem files only.
I have been having an intermitment problem with the music tab in that it works fine for most of the time but then suddenly when I open it I get the spinning circle at the top left and the whole thing has frozen. The only way to get it working is a soft reset.
It doesn't seem to be badly formatted mp3 as after the reset the file that was in the player will work again.
I transfer music from windows media player using the sync function.
It has never stopped working whilst playing only when I open the tab and I think a few times it has been when a track has been paused for some time.
Any ideas are welcome. . .
My music tab doesn't work properly every time after the device was connected via USB in external drive mode. The last played title keeps being displayed, the album it is in is shown in the library as well (as currently played items or however this the first list in the library is called in english) but nothing else is listed. And the little white circle keeps spinning and spinning... I let it spin for hours once but nothing happened. The SD card was formatted by the phone in the first place and I never get freezes once the player works properly.
After a soft reset everything works fine instantly but shouldn't there be a way to get it up and running without resetting everytime I use USB external drive mode???
ROM 1.66 GER, problem was present on clean ROM (before tweaks and tools), too.
OK, so using the provided 'doubletwist" software I transferred about 400 songs to my HD2 from iTunes last night... here is the problem:
The Windows Media Player recognizes all of the songs, artists, albums, etc...
The "player" on the homescreen has over half of my songs labled as "Unknown Artisit/Unknown Album...
I'm EXTREMELY picky about having my album art and order and not that little music note picture...
What went wrong here and how can I get it right?
Thanx!
MUSIC
When ever I transfer music I do not use the DoubleTwist or whatever it might be. I just connect my phone and select use as flash drive not the active sync option but the one below it. I have a designated music folder on the MicroSD and just do a drag and drop into the folder. I have a PC at home and Mac at work. What I do is drag the music onto a folder on my desktop from itunes and it copies the mp3 and then i drag it into my music folder. It works and every one of my albums have album art. Hope this helps
Umby888 said:
OK, so using the provided 'doubletwist" software I transferred about 400 songs to my HD2 from iTunes last night... here is the problem:
The Windows Media Player recognizes all of the songs, artists, albums, etc...
The "player" on the homescreen has over half of my songs labled as "Unknown Artisit/Unknown Album...
I'm EXTREMELY picky about having my album art and order and not that little music note picture...
What went wrong here and how can I get it right?
Thanx!
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Sounds like the where not relabeled right. I dont use Ianything lol so not sure if there is an option the change how it labels the MP3.
Umby888 said:
OK, so using the provided 'doubletwist" software I transferred about 400 songs to my HD2 from iTunes last night... here is the problem:
The Windows Media Player recognizes all of the songs, artists, albums, etc...
The "player" on the homescreen has over half of my songs labled as "Unknown Artisit/Unknown Album...
I'm EXTREMELY picky about having my album art and order and not that little music note picture...
What went wrong here and how can I get it right?
Thanx!
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I also tried installing and using the double twist, which I gave up on. For some reason, it kept reading a card I had inserted into the SD port. What I did is I turned the phone off, took out my micro sd card from the phone (you do this by pushing it in towards the center and letting it go. you can hear a little click.) Then I used the card reader and put it into the SD port on my laptop. I was able to use the windows media sync option that way, and everything transfered over fine including album art and songs and titles and such. I hope that helps!
PS, would a moderator be so kind as to lift the restrictions of embedding links and reposting within 5 minutes from my account? I would greatly appreciate it!
I will try both of these and see what happens... Doubletwist is simply dreadful
FYI, I tried syncing the music last night without pulling the card out of my phone this time, and it seems to be working now. I don't know if it makes much difference, but I went into the windows media player in the start menu-- start>media>windows media player, and updated the library because as far as the phone knew, I still had songs on there that I had deleted. But I didn't try looking at the music on the HTC sense menu.
Okay, so now that I'm committed to the HD2, I'm also committing to fix or remedy the issues I have with the device. I've gotten it to run smoothly, except for the Sense music player.
First, is it normal for it to scan for music every time it's powered on, or unplugged from USB? You would think it would save an "image" of your library to run off while it scans the SD card for new files, but no. Instead, it scans for several minutes, in which time it won't display any artists or albums and lags horribly. Am I missing a setting, or have my library sorted incorrectly? Right now it's setup as root/music/artist/album/mp3, fwiw.
Also, the gap between tracks is terribly annoying. It totally kills mix cd's that are cut into tracks, and ruins the flow of a lot of albums. Is there a way to get rid of this, like the "skip silence" function in iTunes? I knowIf not, is there an app that scans and removes silence from the beginning/end of my mp3's as a batch process? For example, point the app to my music folder, and let it scan/trim silence from each mp3 automatically?
Other than these problems, I really like the music player... but these things are serious dealbreakers for me. If there's no way around them, is there a music player you can suggest that does these things?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I really don't think these things are a lot to ask from a music player, and I'm hoping there's a way to make it happen.
+1 i too has this same issue
Yes, this happens. People have suggested a music player called nitrogen, but I haven't really messed with it to know how good it is or not.
Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that
sirphunkee said:
Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that
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Hey, thanks for the help!
I have several mixes ripped as a single track, but it's hardly convenient. I just hope HTC is aware of this, and working on a solution for an upcoming ROM release. I definitely won't be holding my breath, though.
I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.
speoples20 said:
I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.
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I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.
gilla409 said:
I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.
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Next try nitrogen and TCPMP
Hey guys I'm having problem with music on my dhd
I'm using Isyncr for mac to put my itunes libary on the sd card but when I open the music about 10 artists work then the rest go under unknown artist and it shows song time as 00.00
I used this app on my old nexus one and it was fine??
Any solutions would be greatly appreciated thanks
try just copying and pasting to the sd card instead of using and intermediary application if it works fine doing it that way then its probably a problem with the program
if they are AAC they might not playback most devices ive owned will not play AAC, AAC seems to be a format mainly supported by apple
Nope no still no luck, i copied over and its still doing it. There deffo mp3 files.. i dont know why its doing it.
Anyone else got any idea?
I have the same problem.
I'm really disappointed with the music player. It's basically a bag of s**t unless ALL your MP3s have the exact correct tags (album, artist, etc).
Most of my MP3s have "Unknown" or "Disk 1" as the album tag. So the music player puts all these into the same "folder".
Does anyone know how I can get the music player to navigate the SD Card correctly and just play a friggin folder??
I'm getting really frustrated with it!
Thanks
All of my music is on a 200gb sd card. In google play music I created a number of playlists over a couple of days. I recently rebooted phone and noticed that most of the playlists had lost all of their songs. Rebooted again and another couple of playlists went the same way.
The music still exists on the sd card. The artists and albums are still present in the Play Music library and still play ok.
Anyone else had this.......or even better, a solution
Edit - seems to occur after a power off and power on rather than a reboot
ericjennings said:
All of my music is on a 200gb sd card. In google play music I created a number of playlists over a couple of days. I recently rebooted phone and noticed that most of the playlists had lost all of their songs. Rebooted again and another couple of playlists went the same way.
The music still exists on the sd card. The artists and albums are still present in the Play Music library and still play ok.
Anyone else had this.......or even better, a solution
Edit - seems to occur after a power off and power on rather than a reboot
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I have done a few tests and can now say that the problem only exists if the playlist points to music on sd card. If the playlist points to music on internal storage then rebooting the phone does not affect the playlist.
Therefore it seems likely that rebooting the phone causes the path to the music files (on the sd card) to change, so play music can no longer find the songs even though they still exist on the sd card.
PS......emailed Samsung Support, their reply was that rebooting the phone causes all of the music files on the device to be deleted (even though I explained that my music is on sd card not device memory and that the music files still exist, just they don't show up in the playlist)
What about trying another music player, or another playlist format (like M3U, but maybe for that u need another music player too)... in my personal experience, the music was the biggest problem because I feel like Goole Play Music is worst that windows media player xD, and actually find a good media player is so hard, but never tried GPM, so maybe is a problem from the app and no the phone itself
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What about trying another music player, or another playlist format (like M3U, but maybe for that u need another music player too)... in my personal experience, the music was the biggest problem because I feel like Goole Play Music is worst that windows media player xD, and actually find a good media player is so hard, but never tried GPM, so maybe is a problem from the app and no the phone itself
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Yeah, using Poweramp now..........and I've found I prefer it to GPM so should be grateful that I had the problem
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Yeah.. annoying as.. Wasted hours putting playlists together on Music Player only to have contents get deleted when power off / on.. Read something about being able to make sd card 'adoptable storage' by tweeking developer options.. may give this a try, but it involves formatting the current sd card, so plan to try when i have some time.. Frustrated GS7 User
Ooo another Jennings