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Ok, maybe this is n00bish but Ive never had a nexus device.
On my gs1, tf700 and such everything is flashed from the microsd card. If this device doesnt have one, how do you flash without loosing data?
Ive always learned, 1 wipe data, cache etc. 2. Flash rom/kernel (sometimes 3 wipe again)
Wont this clear your phones storage? This is a HUGE selling factor for me.
Im due for a upgrade outa pocket and I cant decide from GS3, Nexus 4, Note 2 or holding out for rumored gs4
Thanks guys
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Clear Data does not wipe internal storage, just apps+data. If you were doing that, first back up using Titanium Backup, flash new ROM, restore from TiBU, PROFIT!!!
For backing up text messages, theres an app, though I can't remember the name.
Isnt there also an option that wipes everything? Factory reset or whatever. It cleans the rom and all I thought. Thats how we avoid bugs from rom hopping? Like I said Im n00b in nexusville but vanilla jellybeans sound delicious
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There's separate partitions on the phone. Part for the system, part for your data, and then basically an internal SD Card. You would wipe the same way you would on any other phone: Wipe data/factory reset, format boot, system, cache, data, dalvik cache, etc, then flash your ROM. Your "internal" SD card will be untouched.
At least that's how I assume it would work...
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kcls said:
There's separate partitions on the phone. Part for the system, part for your data, and then basically an internal SD Card. You would wipe the same way you would on any other phone: Wipe data/factory reset, format boot, system, cache, data, dalvik cache, etc, then flash your ROM. Your "internal" SD card will be untouched.
At least that's how I assume it would work...
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Yup thats how it works. 'SD Card' partition is untouched during a wipe (though the bootloader unlock command will wipe absolutely everything, you just use that once when you first get the phone and its all good).
anirudh412 said:
Clear Data does not wipe internal storage, just apps+data. If you were doing that, first back up using Titanium Backup, flash new ROM, restore from TiBU, PROFIT!!!
For backing up text messages, theres an app, though I can't remember the name.
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SMS Backup and restore
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
Isnt there also an option that wipes everything? Factory reset or whatever. It cleans the rom and all I thought. Thats how we avoid bugs from rom hopping? Like I said Im n00b in nexusville but vanilla jellybeans sound delicious
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You are correct. But factory reset/ clear data even though wipes the phone clean, the 'internal SD card partition' isn't wiped. Meaning you would still have your pictures, videos and such. And also backup files. So once you do that and boot into the new rom, install TiBU from the market and restore your backup.
For a complete and 'true' wipe, as someone already mentioned, you could use ODIN/ Toolkit. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Using TWRP. You can wipe: cache, dalvik, factory reset, system. You can wipe all of those and your internal store will not be wiped. Now with TWRP you can also wipe internal and external storage, do that and you will be SOL.
There is option in the wipe section that says clear data, if I did clear the data, will I lose just only lost my internal storage data (games,apps,moives, etc) or I'll lost everything( The entire ROM)?
If you format data, you'll loose everything. It will wipe data/media which stores everything you've put on the device. This includes sd card because it is actually stored in data/media. Normally, Factory Reset is used when you want to change roms which have a different base. I recently formated data on my GNex because it had become corrupted & I want to start with an "out of the box" experience. Wipe Data, & it will wipe everything! If you do need to use that function, put a rom, gapps, & all other data you want to keep on a storage device & mount it within twrp to flash those items.
Suggest you go to Team Win's website & study the functions.
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djd338 said:
If you format data, you'll loose everything. It will wipe data/media which stores everything you've put on the device. This includes sd card because it is actually stored in data/media. Normally, Factory Reset is used when you want to change roms which have a different base. I recently formated data on my GNex because it had become corrupted & I want to start with an "out of the box" experience. Wipe Data, & it will wipe everything! If you do need to use that function, put a rom, gapps, & all other data you want to keep on a storage device & mount it within twrp to flash those items.
Suggest you go to Team Win's website & study the functions.
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Can I wipe system on my nexus 10? Cuase I heard that wiping system can damage the device?
AnchorChin said:
Can I wipe system on my nexus 10? Cuase I heard that wiping system can damage the device?
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When attempting to wipe the system, always carry safety glasses. My ex-girlfriend tried this once and the device blew up in her face... I eventually had to get rid of the poor thing....
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If you format data, you'll loose everything...
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What's the difference between format data, and wiping internal storage?
When they say wipe data, I have always done factory reset. It keeps your sdcard intact. To do a full wipe, I have run through the top row of wipes in the wipe option: cache, dalvik, factory reset, system. If I'm wrong here, please let me know.
Format data will completely wipe your data off the N10. For example, if you download a rom to flash then go and format data, that rom will not be there to flash
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Hey, is there any way I can update OTA with the TWRP? I can not get it to work. Always boots into the recovery and then does not commence with the updating process.
Thank you
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IRKONIK said:
Hey, is there any way I can update OTA with the TWRP? I can not get it to work. Always boots into the recovery and then does not commence with the updating process.
Thank you
Cheers :beer:
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Yes, using sideload within TWRP combined with adb sideload as originally listed by tcrews here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144385&page=3
This is how I applied the OTA and it worked flawlessly. My system was Stock 4.2.1, Rooted, Unlocked, TWRP.
I sideloaded the OTA like this:
1. make sure you have the latest SDK drivers for android installed on your computer.
2. download the OTA to your computer (I renamed it to JDQ39.zip to make typing easier)
3. install and run OTA RootKeeper on your tablet to protect your rooting.
4. connect to your computer, boot to TWRP recovery, select Advanced, Sideload, swipe to begin
5. on the computer enter "adb devices" to make sure you can see the nexus.
6. on the computer enter "adb sideload JDQ39.zip"
7. after all is done and the nexus reboots, restore Root with RootKeeper, and TWRP with GooManager.
8. verify all is well, then make a new Nandroid backup of your 4.2.2 system.
Good luck
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Can I wipe system on my nexus 10? Cuase I heard that wiping system can damage the device?
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Most custom ROMs format it before installing (/system holds well, system files) for a clean working folder. No damage.
espionage724 said:
What's the difference between format data, and wiping internal storage?
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Format data formats what would be user installed apps, saved settings; Wipe internal storage formats /data/media, which is another path for /sdcard, /storage/sdcard0 and so on.
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Hi... is there anyone here knows to port CWM on Kata i1?
hey im using paranoid android 3.56 and i want to update it to 3.60 will i loose my data if i do so and also im using nexus 4
yes u will loose
but u can take backup also
rasroh said:
yes u will loose
but u can take backup also
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how to i backup my entire phone data to my pc
sum93 said:
hey im using paranoid android 3.56 and i want to update it to 3.60 will i loose my data if i do so and also im using nexus 4
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No. You will not lose your data if you dirty flash the new rom. That means, if you just clear cache andd dalvik cache before flashing the new rom, your data wont be deleted. As you are upgrading from one version of the same rom to another, this will function as well as a clean flash.
A clean flash implies you will have to clear data too in the recovery along with cache and dalvik cache. As I said before, this isnt needed when upgrading from one version of a rom to another of the same. However, if you are shifting from one rom to a different one, clean flash is recommended.
So in conclusion, these are the steps you will have to follow to upgrade to the new rom -
1. Download the new upgraded version of the rom and gapps(if not included in the rom). Also take backups (titanium or/and nandroid as required)
2. Boot into recovery.
3. Clean cache.
4. Clean dalvik cache.
5. Flash new rom.
6. Flash gapps.(if not included in the rom)
7. Clean cache and dalvik again.
8. Reboot to system.
Thus, no data wipe required. Your data and applications will be safe.
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rasroh said:
yes u will loose
but u can take backup also
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Please do research some on the topic before giving any advice
Most roms do not ask for a clean flash when upgrading the rom, so he won't lose his data. Unless oyherwise recommended by the developer, he doesnt have to clear his data when going from one version of a rom to a new one.
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use a backup app like titanium, helium etc
sum93 said:
hey im using paranoid android 3.56 and i want to update it to 3.60 will i loose my data if i do so and also im using nexus 4
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If you're just updating a rom you wont lose any data. All you have to do is flash the new rom on top of the old one and that's it. No need to wipe anything.
If you are upgrading from one version of a rom to a higher version of the same rom, you can usually dirty flash (flash on top without wiping) without losing any data.
Also even if you did "wipe date", it won't touch your /data/media which is basically where your /sdcard stuff lives (it will just wipe your apps, settings, etc data, so a backup via recovery is usually advised anyways).
On a related note: what does it take to wipe all of your data off your phone? Basically, to get the Nexus 4 back to brand-new, out-of-the-box fresh? Is there an easy way to do it or do you have to manually wipe different locations and if the latter, what locations must you wipe?
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On a related note: what does it take to wipe all of your data off your phone? Basically, to get the Nexus 4 back to brand-new, out-of-the-box fresh? Is there an easy way to do it or do you have to manually wipe different locations and if the latter, what locations must you wipe?
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If you are on a stock rom, a simple "format data" from recovery would do the trick as it would wipe /data and /data/media. As the stock rom on /system never changes unless you rooted and added stuff to it. (fastboot can do this too from the bootloader with fastboot erase userdata).
Alternatively, you can just unpack the factory firmware and flash the *.img to their respective partitions (boot[kernel], system, userdata, etc) from this list https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamjdq39 (PS: I wouldn't bother touching the bootloader as most people never changed it other than to maybe unlock it).
Nutshell version: All your user-specific stuff lies under /data (settings, downloaded apps, media, etc)
Hey guys. I have TWRP 2.8.7.2 installed. I've been using Pure Nexus + Elemental X exclusively since December. This never seemed to be a problem before, but my last few flashes have resulted in sticky data. I go into TWRP, advanced wipe and wipe: DALVIK, System, data, Cache. Then, I delete Android from the internal storage and any other app directories that linger. Then I install the ROM, GApps, and kernel. Then, when I first boot my email shows up in the Google account setup. I thought "maybe it's saved on the sim card." But then I notice that when I reinstall apps, that they retain their data and my user data (for example, I don't even need to log into Runkeeper).
So somehow, despite performing a full wipe and clean install my user data is being saved. I know it's not part of internal storage so wiping that would only result in me having to copy my ROM files, music, photos, etc back over. So, where is this user data being saved and why isn't it being wiped?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Hey guys. I have TWRP 2.8.7.2 installed. I've been using Pure Nexus + Elemental X exclusively since December. This never seemed to be a problem before, but my last few flashes have resulted in sticky data. I go into TWRP, advanced wipe and wipe: DALVIK, System, data, Cache. Then, I delete Android from the internal storage and any other app directories that linger. Then I install the ROM, GApps, and kernel. Then, when I first boot my email shows up in the Google account setup. I thought "maybe it's saved on the sim card." But then I notice that when I reinstall apps, that they retain their data and my user data (for example, I don't even need to log into Runkeeper).
So somehow, despite performing a full wipe and clean install my user data is being saved. I know it's not part of internal storage so wiping that would only result in me having to copy my ROM files, music, photos, etc back over. So, where is this user data being saved and why isn't it being wiped?
Any help would be appreciated.
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I'm not sure why this is happening, it's definitely word. But is there a reason you're wiping like this when updating the ROM? You really don't need to, you can just dirty flash the ROM zip when updating.
Heisenberg said:
I'm not sure why this is happening, it's definitely word. But is there a reason you're wiping like this when updating the ROM? You really don't need to, you can just dirty flash the ROM zip when updating.
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I don't like to dirty wipe. I guess it's the OCD in me that likes to start clean every time. I wonder if it's a bug in TWRP or something.
jserio said:
I don't like to dirty wipe. I guess it's the OCD in me that likes to start clean every time. I wonder if it's a bug in TWRP or something.
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I used to do the same thing, until I realised I was just wasting time for no benefit. I don't think it's a TWRP issue, I was using that same build for ages with no problems. You could try updating to the latest TWRP though.
Try with "rm - fr" instead of regular wipe in options, maybe this works.
Are you doing a Factory Reset in TWRP to actually wipe the rom away? You list system, cache, and data (internal storage) but not Factory Reset.
Alternatively, are your apps reinstalling after signing into your account at Setup Wizard?
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Try wiping system 2x. I had to do this on my S6. After wiping the first time and going back to the advance menu, System would then show up as 2 different partitions, System Read and System Write. I had to wipe the 2 in order to do a clean install. Although this is not the case for the 6P, I have made it a habit to do so. If that fails, you will need to adb the factory image.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Are you doing a Factory Reset in TWRP to actually wipe the rom away? You list system, cache, and data (internal storage) but not Factory Reset.
Alternatively, are your apps reinstalling after signing into your account at Setup Wizard?
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He's already performing a factory reset by wiping the partitions individually.
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He's already performing a factory reset by wiping the partitions individually.
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That's what you would think, but why is this happening?
FWIW, I always TWRP factory reset, then wipe all the partitions he mentioned again by itself and have never seen this behavior on any version of TWRP.
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That's what you would think, but why is this happening?
FWIW, I always TWRP factory reset, then wipe all the partitions he mentioned again by itself and have never seen this behavior on any version of TWRP.
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I have no explanation for what's happening, I really don't know. I only ever use the advanced wipe menu, it's pointless performing the factory reset too.
So I've transferred Pure Nexus 7.0 custom ROM and it's other files (Vendor, GApps) a number of times to my phone via ADB to TWRP Recovery and noticed it occupied "Other" space in my storage, about 1.80 GB after flashing them for the third time. With that said, I can't find them with the any file explorer even with an option like "Show Hidden Files". I want to know, is it possible to free up ALL space on the device when flashing a factory image?
tikonux said:
So I've transferred Pure Nexus 7.0 custom ROM and it's other files (Vendor, GApps) a number of times to my phone via ADB to TWRP Recovery and noticed it occupied "Other" space in my storage, about 1.80 GB after flashing them for the third time. With that said, I can't find them with the any file explorer even with an option like "Show Hidden Files". I want to know, is it possible to free up ALL space on the device when flashing a factory image?
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Depends what you flash and reset. If you do a full factory reset, all userdata including storage will be wiped. If you don't flash the userdata partition (not a good idea) and you don't wipe, your storage remains intact. If you aren't rooted, you can't access some partitions.
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ultyrunner said:
Depends what you flash and reset. If you do a full factory reset, all userdata including storage will be wiped. If you don't flash the userdata partition (not a good idea) and you don't wipe, your storage remains intact. If you aren't rooted, you can't access some partitions.
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I am rooted. Just for future reference, how can I free up my whole storage?
tikonux said:
I am rooted. Just for future reference, how can I free up my whole storage?
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I just told you in the previous response.
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ultyrunner said:
I just told you in the previous response.
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Full factory reset from the recovery? If that includes wiping out system, dalvik cache, etc. that's what I did and I still have that space occupied from the .zip and .img files from installing Pure Nexus ROM.
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Full factory reset from the recovery? If that includes wiping out system, dalvik cache, etc. that's what I did and I still have that space occupied from the .zip and .img files from installing Pure Nexus ROM.
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You seem confused. If you put the files there before you formatted userdata then you didn't format it. If you put the files there after formatting userdata, then why would they be gone after you flashed them? From TWRP, you also need to wipe internal storage to fully wipe your phone. You clearly need to read Heisenberg's guide.
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ultyrunner said:
You seem confused. If you put the files there before you formatted userdata then you didn't format it. If you put the files there after formatting userdata, then why would they be gone after you flashed them? From TWRP, you also need to wipe internal storage to fully wipe your phone. You clearly need to read Heisenberg's guide.
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I have wiped internal storage via TWRP.