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I've not got a N4 yet but it will be interesting to know which is preferred. On my Note the clear winner is CM with stability, battery life and performance. Obviously AOSP has more customisations but performance is sacrificed.
CM seems less popular here with people going with PAC or PA. Maybe CM is more infantile here?
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Your question doesn't really make sense. CM is AOSP. All ROMs are based off AOSP.
You're getting your terminology wrong here. Unless you mean AOKP rather than AOSP?
Personally I don't use CyanogenMod because it lacks the feature of changing the navigation height/width; whereas, other ROMs have that feature.
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I've not got a N4 yet but it will be interesting to know which is preferred. On my Note the clear winner is CM with stability, battery life and performance. Obviously AOSP has more customisations but performance is sacrificed.
CM seems less popular here with people going with PAC or PA. Maybe CM is more infantile here?
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on a legacy platform cm rules everything and nothing touches it. most other roms will either base on cm completely or depend on its build trees.
this is nexus, we get source, drivers, kernels and vendor blobs directly from google. developers can just start programming - no one needs to hack through locked bootloaders or bs like that. it reverses the rules, aosp roms will be popular ofc because they are usually faster up to date, have less fallouts and bring more features.
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Your question doesn't really make sense. CM is AOSP. All ROMs are based off AOSP.
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yes, but you got to stretch it to make room for hundreds of incompatible devices that want a slice of google android. much of it you can branch out, some of it you have to mix into the android sourcebase. theres more weight to it and greater responsibility.
OK a philosophical rant.
I've spent hours trying to decide which custom rom to install. Watched all the youtube videos went on all the developers web sites and read hundreds of pages of threads and yet nothing jumps out at me. I was asking myself why do I want a custom rom. So I went through a checklist of what roms offer
1. Remove bloatware - done that through titanium
2. Display customisations - I use sense and nova and various other gui apps that provide many options
3. Tweaks - I have exposed modules - sense 6, gravity box and xsense which give me all the tweaks I need
4. Speed - my phone's running very well.
5. Gestures - I use gmd gestures
Some roms offer hundreds of tweaks. In reality how often and how many would you change. Also while most roms are stable and bugs are fixable, there are many reports of problems and yes I know they do get fixed eventually but losing wifi, carrier access, reboots, bootloops etc can be disconcerting and a common question is how do I get back to stock rom.
I came to the conclusion that the only reason I wanted a custom rom was to see if I could load one and try it out. Seems like a lot of mucking about to achieve, in my case on this phone, very little.
Have i missed the point of roms?
I installed the Android Lollipop custom rom and it was nice. There were two bugs that I encountered and they were 1) no system r/w access and 2) I kept having to dismount and remount my sd card. I tried Cyanogenmod and while it was nice, I missed Blinkfeed.
It's a presonal preference, really. Everybody has their reason for what operating system they run on their phone. As for me, I like custom ROMs because I like to stay on the bleeding edge. If a new version of Android is released, you can guarantee there'll be a custom ROM for it within 1-2 weeks. Even when the OEM has stopped pushing out updates, custom ROMs give the ability to always stay on the bleeding edge. Also, some people dislike the Sense UI. Understandable, since it does slow the phone down just a bit. But really, it' just down to personal preference.
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It's a presonal preference, really. Everybody has their reason for what operating system they run on their phone. As for me, I like custom ROMs because I like to stay on the bleeding edge. If a new version of Android is released, you can guarantee there'll be a custom ROM for it within 1-2 weeks. Even when the OEM has stopped pushing out updates, custom ROMs give the ability to always stay on the bleeding edge. Also, some people dislike the Sense UI. Understandable, since it does slow the phone down just a bit. But really, it' just down to personal preference.
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Maybe its a Windows vs Mac thing. Its funny you know that I'm an experienced computer teacher and on PCs I always stay up to date and I do like to be on the bleeding edge but when it comes to phones I feel differently but on my Samsung tablet I do have a custom rom. I'm not anti custom rom. Samsungs bloatware is ridiculous, touchwiz is awful and the tablet is very laggy. A custom rom here was absolutely necessary. Now it flies but on the htc one m8, I don't mind sense 6, speed is good and customisations are adequate.
Technically speaking they are not necessary. I prefer stock android to sense.
Also lollipop appears to be a game changer for exposed. It's uncertain the future of exposed.
I know my ROM of choice is miui although it can be a crap shoot to get a stable ROM to my liking so I usually use mi launcher
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OK a philosophical rant.
I've spent hours trying to decide which custom rom to install. Watched all the youtube videos went on all the developers web sites and read hundreds of pages of threads and yet nothing jumps out at me. I was asking myself why do I want a custom rom. So I went through a checklist of what roms offer
1. Remove bloatware - done that through titanium
2. Display customisations - I use sense and nova and various other gui apps that provide many options
3. Tweaks - I have exposed modules - sense 6, gravity box and xsense which give me all the tweaks I need
4. Speed - my phone's running very well.
5. Gestures - I use gmd gestures
Some roms offer hundreds of tweaks. In reality how often and how many would you change. Also while most roms are stable and bugs are fixable, there are many reports of problems and yes I know they do get fixed eventually but losing wifi, carrier access, reboots, bootloops etc can be disconcerting and a common question is how do I get back to stock rom.
I came to the conclusion that the only reason I wanted a custom rom was to see if I could load one and try it out. Seems like a lot of mucking about to achieve, in my case on this phone, very little.
Have i missed the point of roms?
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Once u try Xposed Module Xtended Settings (for Sense 6) u won't need a rom. It's ALMOST got more features than s6tb, xsense, htc one tweaker, gravity box,- ALL COMBINED AND THEN SOME THAT NONE OF EM CONTAIN.... Newest versions up on Play Store (Xposed report has older versions).... With this 1 single mod, I have no need for custom rom. Try it u WILL NOT regret it (or turn back either)
Are custom roms necessary? In my opinion yes they are.
1: some people prefer a pure android experience (me included)
2: some people want certain tweaks, apps, and settings
3: and the MOST important one! Faster updates, and longer device life.
What do i mean by device life? Newest android on phones that the manufacturer phased out. Look at the galaxy s3 running 4.4.4, or the galaxy nexus running 4.4.4 and probably 5.0 now. These devices stopped getting updates from their manufacturers but are still good usuable phones, preventing me from getting a new device.
This is why companies have been locking down bootloaders, to get you to buy a new device for new software when the one you own is perfectly good.
So it comes down to taste, preference, and android version.
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Xposed and all these apps which you are using came in very late if you compare them to when custom roms started popping up. Now, me for one prefer to have some of the functionality you use baked into my rom instead of me going to the play store and downloading an app to do so.
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Are custom roms necessary? In my opinion yes they are.
1: some people prefer a pure android experience (me included)
2: some people want certain tweaks, apps, and settings
3: and the MOST important one! Faster updates, and longer device life.
What do i mean by device life? Newest android on phones that the manufacturer phased out. Look at the galaxy s3 running 4.4.4, or the galaxy nexus running 4.4.4 and probably 5.0 now. These devices stopped getting updates from their manufacturers but are still good usuable phones, preventing me from getting a new device.
This is why companies have been locking down bootloaders, to get you to buy a new device for new software when the one you own is perfectly good.
So it comes down to taste, preference, and android version.
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Which rom are you using then?
BTW In Australia we are bypassing 4.4.4 and going straight to 5.0. When I don't know (Jan. was mentioned) but I'll revisit roms when they match my firmware. The point about updates is a good one. I forgot about that.
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Which rom are you using then?
BTW In Australia we are bypassing 4.4.4 and going straight to 5.0. When I don't know (Jan. was mentioned) but I'll revisit roms when they match my firmware. The point about updates is a good one. I forgot about that.
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Im running the google play edition 5.0 lollipop leak right now. Hoping the official google play 5.0 update comes this week. Kinda laggy. I tend to run cyanogenmod (cm11) so as soon as cm12 comes out ill be switching to that
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Im running the google play edition 5.0 lollipop leak right now. Hoping the official google play 5.0 update comes this week. Kinda laggy. I tend to run cyanogenmod (cm11) so as soon as cm12 comes out ill be switching to that
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Flash the antilag fix holyangel posted, it makes things usable imho. Its not 100% gone but its a whole lot better without the fix.
luigi90210 said:
Flash the antilag fix holyangel posted, it makes things usable imho. Its not 100% gone but its a whole lot better without the fix.
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Yeah i have the tweaks all set. Also switched to nova launcher (ditching google now helps). I really only experience the most lag in chrome and keyboard. I could try a differrnt keyboard i guess but it matches so well.
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Yeah i have the tweaks all set. Also switched to nova launcher (ditching google now helps). I really only experience the most lag in chrome and keyboard. I could try a differrnt keyboard i guess but it matches so well.
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Its funny you say that cause im only experiencing lag on google messanger. Everything else is smooth with the occasional hiccup once and a while.
To add my $0.02 to the topic, i feel custom roms in the sense like CM, AOKP, paranoid android, ect. are not necessary unless you have no way to get pure android on your device. Im running the leaked lollipop rom and im loving it aside from the minor lag issues im experiencing, i feel android has itself to a point where if you need to customize something, you have rooted apps that can do it, there isnt any need to have all these seperate apps baked into a rom when you will only use 1/3rd of the features, its just adding more bloat to what could be a pure aosp rom
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Its funny you say that cause im only experiencing lag on google messanger. Everything else is smooth with the occasional hiccup once and a while.
To add my $0.02 to the topic, i feel custom roms in the sense like CM, AOKP, paranoid android, ect. are not necessary unless you have no way to get pure android on your device. Im running the leaked lollipop rom and im loving it aside from the minor lag issues im experiencing, i feel android has itself to a point where if you need to customize something, you have rooted apps that can do it, there isnt any need to have all these seperate apps baked into a rom when you will only use 1/3rd of the features, its just adding more bloat to what could be a pure aosp rom
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While I do agree, that the feel of stock AOSP is unbeatable, I don't think that AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android are completely useless. They have some features that you can't simply add with an Xposed module, or some root app. Take CM's theme manager, for example. I honestly don't know what I'd do without the theme manager. And Paranoid Android's Hover feature? (Which I guess with Lollipop's floating mode, is now useless), but in KitKat, it was revolutionary. And I'm sure they'll continue to add new, unbeatable features in Lollipop, too. And until they stop adding new features, I don't think it's likely that I'll stop using them.
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While I do agree, that the feel of stock AOSP is unbeatable, I don't think that AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android are completely useless. They have some features that you can't simply add with an Xposed module, or some root app. Take CM's theme manager, for example. I honestly don't know what I'd do without the theme manager. And Paranoid Android's Hover feature? (Which I guess with Lollipop's floating mode, is now useless), but in KitKat, it was revolutionary. And I'm sure they'll continue to add new, unbeatable features in Lollipop, too. And until they stop adding new features, I don't think it's likely that I'll stop using them.
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Hover can be used via gravity box, wanam, and other tool boxes like it, themer however is unique to android but for a user like me who stays with stock themes that feature is moot.
With xposed not working on lollipop i can see where having a feature hardcoded into a rom would be good but thats only if xposed is broken forever.
Thats my $0.02 on the subject though, i personally find no need to run a custom rom on my HTC One M8, lollipop has all the features i use and i only need root to manage my kernel, files(root explorer), sound control, and an app like greenify that forces apps to shut down when not in use to gelp battery life.
bdizzle1686 said:
Once u try Xposed Module Xtended Settings (for Sense 6) u won't need a rom. It's ALMOST got more features than s6tb, xsense, htc one tweaker, gravity box,- ALL COMBINED AND THEN SOME THAT NONE OF EM CONTAIN.... Newest versions up on Play Store (Xposed report has older versions).... With this 1 single mod, I have no need for custom rom. Try it u WILL NOT regret it (or turn back either)
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Just installed this and your right, its very good but it is missing a couple of my favourite tweaks from my xsense, sense 6 toolbox and gravity box. Using all of these gives all the tweaks you could possibly want,
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While I do agree, that the feel of stock AOSP is unbeatable, I don't think that AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android are completely useless. They have some features that you can't simply add with an Xposed module, or some root app. Take CM's theme manager, for example. I honestly don't know what I'd do without the theme manager. And Paranoid Android's Hover feature? (Which I guess with Lollipop's floating mode, is now useless), but in KitKat, it was revolutionary. And I'm sure they'll continue to add new, unbeatable features in Lollipop, too. And until they stop adding new features, I don't think it's likely that I'll stop using them.
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CM theme Manager based on T-Mobile theme engine is used by RichmondoUK in his xposed module too
A custom rom is a great thing but not necessary. I wish i had a custom rom on my m8, but since is almost certain that i can't s-off it, i don't wanna risk not been able to update the firmware or to lose wifi or network signal if i upgrade to a rom based on newer firmware. So i'll keep it stock at least until lollipop comes.
I`d like to add something,
Before knowing that GREAT invention called "XPOSED" , custom roms were a must for me and I assume for every android maniac like me. But now things are totally different , with XPOSED u can have customize ur stock rom in all ways . And thus u get all the benefits of both stock roms "stable bug free" and custom roms at the same time. Guys we shud really thank Mr. XPOSED inventor whoever he is. :good::good:
Jabber Abdullah said:
Before knowing that GREAT invention called "XPOSED" , custom roms were a must for me and I assume for every android maniac like me. But now things are totally different , with XPOSED u can have customize ur stock rom in all ways . And thus u get all the benefits of both stock roms "stable bug free" and custom roms at the same time. Guys we shud really thank Mr. XPOSED inventor whoever he is. :good::good:
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I see everyone talking about Xposed.
Given it's uncertain future in Android 5 I'm afraid for the foreseeable you are going to want baked in features on custom ROMs.
I personally cannot wait to see what themers can do with Android 5.0 in the CM theme engine.
Like others I am also waiting for CM12 as it always just feels more snappy than stock.
I don't think I fully understand how ROM's device drivers work. Stock is supposed to be more stable because most manufacturers use closed source drivers, which have to be reverse engineered for any non stock ROM (is that correct?).
But on my Nexus 4, I've had the same problems with stability as any other device, despite the open source drivers. Apps still frequently cause my phone to reboot, which from what I understand can only be caused by driver bugs, otherwise the app would simply crash.
Am I just expecting stability AND features and wondering why I can't have my cake and eat it too? I'm running the stable version of SlimKat atm and usually go for stable versions of ROMs that go for speed and stability, no experimental bleeding edge features or anything.
Could anyone explain what I seem to be missing. I'm an amateur programmer so technical details appreciated.
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I don't think I fully understand how ROM's device drivers work. Stock is supposed to be more stable because most manufacturers use closed source drivers, which have to be reverse engineered for any non stock ROM (is that correct?).
But on my Nexus 4, I've had the same problems with stability as any other device, despite the open source drivers. Apps still frequently cause my phone to reboot, which from what I understand can only be caused by driver bugs, otherwise the app would simply crash.
Am I just expecting stability AND features and wondering why I can't have my cake and eat it too? I'm running the stable version of SlimKat atm and usually go for stable versions of ROMs that go for speed and stability, no experimental bleeding edge features or anything.
Could anyone explain what I seem to be missing. I'm an amateur programmer so technical details appreciated.
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I wish someone could answer this because I'm considering one of the new Nexus devices because I thought I could have this best of both worlds that he speaks of. Is this not the case, do open source driver devices like Nexus phones suffer with the same issues as other unlocked phones that have closed source drivers?
I am one of those people who like a stock rom. Nothing is better than throwing on a stock AOSP rom after a string of crack flashes to test out the latest and greatest custom roms.
There are some great ones out there too such as, just to name a few of the greats, Cyanide, Blisspop, Dirty Uniform, Candy L and AOSIP. There are many more that I did not mention that are in my category of highly customizable roms. But there are so many more that it would take up a page alone just trying to mention all of the outstanding so if I did not get Yours on this list, please forgive me.
After a week or two you just crave to flash back to stock because of, put in you reason here, what ever is not working right, small issues or even as big as random reboots pop up from time to time. What ever the reason you feel the need to go back to stock to straiten your device back out or even to see why in the world you left to begin with.
You are back on stock, in the case of the Nexus 6, vanilla AOSP. It is supper reliable and rock solid OS but boring. It lacks pizazz, or customizability. And then you remembered why you flash that custom rom in the first place, it was to get that battery bar or custom colorable status bar icons and drop down menu. You are now back to square one.
This is where I start to think about just what is a perfect stock rom. Well I own quite a few devices, and my favorite "stock rom" of all would be CM12s, off of the One Plus one. It had all the feature that I would like right out of the gate without flashing so much as a custom recovery, although those of us who flash roms also do because we just enjoy flashing and the custom recovery would have to go on right away.
What I'm finally getting at in this long winded post is that I would love to see that rom ported to this device, CM12s, or better yet just to have that theme engine incorporated into a stock AOSP rom. I like the theme engine in CM12s. Why not just flash the latest CM12.1 made for my device and shut the heck up? Because CM12.1, as good as it is, has bugs. Remember, bugs are the reason we finally came back to stock or come back to stock from time to time and that is to prove to ourselves that our device does work right and that there is nothing with it.
So I guess that this is my lame attempt at asking a dev out there to do this, to make the stock rom that came on this device capable of running the theme engine that comes stock on the One Plus. I think that would be an awesome rom. Simple yet capable of customizing with your favorite theme. I don't do layers and yes I have tried it. I test roms. That's my love. So I do flash roms like RostaPop and Chroma and Lollipopalooza to name a few and I just like themes better. And I have a large collection of themes that I purchased and would like to use them. Just my preference.
What are your thoughts on a perfect rom? If you are a Dev and are willing to take up this "unofficial request" I would be willing to do the testing and If it works out, I am one of those that "pay to play", so to speak, for the outstanding work that you devs do and would make a donation for your trouble. Let me know your thoughts and thank you for reading this post.
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I somewhat agree with you on the whole "stock" thing...problem is I'm a flashaholic. Even if I'm perfectly content I'll still find something to flash. Like I was thrilled to be running "M" dev preview, and not just the stock image, but the ROM that was developed which I'm sure you've seen. It was great with Hells kernel and ran fantastic.. well except I couldn't get V4A to work for the life of me and my download speeds on WiFi weren't as good as on 5.1.1. But I'm back to my all time favorite ROM & kernel on this device, and that's Per's Spring ROM & kernel... I have yet to find something better than his work, and I've been through it all. So if you haven't tried his CM12.1 based Spring I suggest you do...its awesome.
i used to be a flashaholic back on the Gnex, and N5 days, now I'm an old man. I like stock rooted unlocked unencrypted, Google bloat doesn't bother me. What bothers me is unstable and a bunch of broken and useless features to make your device look stupid and not like a true android.
I'm not going to say much, but stock is not aosp. you can not say stock aosp as stock. stock and aosp are two different ROMs.
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if you dont believe me, try running the aosp browser on the stock ROM.. oh, guess what, it won't work. why? because they are two different ROMs.
Lots of apps already updated on M preview. Very happy with it now
Almost all apps "ROM" are same ... are little difference between them ... For Me, best are: Benzo Rom, CM12.1, and Euphoria ...
Benzo is the most stable, hard hitting, battery saving, butter smooth ROM I've ever used on any phone.
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I'm not going to say much, but stock is not aosp. you can not say stock aosp as stock. stock and aosp are two different ROMs.
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if you dont believe me, try running the aosp browser on the stock ROM.. oh, guess what, it won't work. why? because they are two different ROMs.
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I agree completely. What I was trying to get at though was that, at least for me, on my One Plus I think that they had a winner with the stock rom that came on it. It was AOSP like for the most part (actually CM) but included the theme engine in it for people who looked to customize. So if you like to stay plain you could or of you wanted wild that option was there as well.
Now on the Nexus 6, the stock OS is, at least to me, boring in it's looks but functions almost flawlessly. I would just like to see Google do something like CM12s for people who may not want to flash but still want customization in their stock rom.
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glockman4519 said:
I agree completely. What I was trying to get at though was that, at least for me, on my One Plus I think that they had a winner with the stock rom that came on it. It was AOSP like for the most part but included the theme engine in it for people who looked to customize. So if you like to stay plain you could or of you wanted wild that option was there as well.
Now on the Nexus 6, the stock OS is, at least to me, boring in it's looks but functions almost flawlessly. I would just like to see Google do something like CM12s for people who may not want to flash but still want customization in their stock rom.
"Chance Favors the Prepared"
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your wish has been done..! in m, google includes the code for rro(layers) in it. so you can use the layers manager app, and layers themes, to theme your device, stock.
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your wish has been done..! in m, google includes the code for rro(layers) in it. so you can use the layers manager app, and layers themes, to theme your device, stock.
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Interesting to say the least. I have read some of that and seen some videos that talked about just that. As long as it is user friendly than they will have a winner. But for people to really gravitate to it, it will have to be more use friendly than it is in lollipop.
I'm going to wait a bit to try "M" out again though. It just wasn't stable enough for me as it was a couple days ago.
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Does Snapchat still auto rotate picture in M
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Remember layers was an extension of the rro code found in lollipop
It seems as if I'm always falling back on stock+xposed+gravity box+ my favorite battery sipping kernel and this usually yields excellent results!
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It seems as if I'm always falling back on stock+xposed+gravity box+ my favorite battery sipping kernel and this usually yields excellent results!
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Same here, started when I got my HTC One M8. S-OFF'd it and converted to GPE. Stock Google w/ Gravity box and a Custom Kernel is my favorite on my Nexus 6 & HTC One M8.
Well, for me I need customizable nav bar height and preferably Layers/Theme.
So I just haven't been using stock since Nexus 4.
I have tried many ROMS (PA, CynaogenMOD, Chroma, .....) on several devices (HTC Desire HD, Nexus 4 and Nexus 6) and for me DirtyUnicorns ROM + Kernel is the best setup I have ever found.
Lightweight
Essential features but not blown up
Stable
Developed by a whole experienced team with frequent updates
Xtrasmooth on my N5 and now on my N6.
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I'm not going to say much, but stock is not aosp. you can not say stock aosp as stock. stock and aosp are two different ROMs.
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if you dont believe me, try running the aosp browser on the stock ROM.. oh, guess what, it won't work. why? because they are two different ROMs.
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At the risk of looking like an idiot after all these years of flashing Roms, but with the hope of learning something, I have a few questions:
1. I always thought a Nexus device had bare-bones android which is aosp.
2. If the N6 factory ROM isn't pure aosp, what is it aside from the device specific stuff?
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At the risk of looking like an idiot after all these years of flashing Roms, but with the hope of learning something, I have a few questions:
1. I always thought a Nexus device had bare-bones android which is aosp.
2. If the N6 factory ROM isn't pure aosp, what is it aside from the device specific stuff?
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The stock ROM has many google proprietary parts that replace the ones found in aosp. Aosp has many outdated apps also, such as browser, MMS, email, etc. Stock uses Chrome, Hangouts, Gmail by default. They are actually quite different at the source level. This is why devs have such a hard time trying to get stock features like WiFi calling & VoLTE working on aosp Roms.
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The stock ROM has many google proprietary parts that replace the ones found in aosp. Aosp has many outdated apps also, such as browser, MMS, email, etc. Stock uses Chrome, Hangouts, Gmail by default. They are actually quite different at the source level. This is why devs have such a hard time trying to get stock features like WiFi calling & VoLTE working on aosp Roms.
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I'm probably missing something since on the surface it seems like the difference are in the included apps (chrome vs browser, Email vs gmail, etc.). However you mentioned that some things are different at the source level.
So basically you're saying that a ROM built from source released by google (aosp) is different from a Nexus ROM?
Since I have no idea how to code, have some basic knowledge of Linux commands, and have never fathomed building a ROM there are some fundamentals that I'm missing hence my questions. Some of this may be elementary to you guys but having this knowledge helps me help others and gives me a better understanding how things work.
Thanks for taking the time to entertain my questions.
Hi everybody
After flashing rom 5.1.1 from [HLTE/TMO/SPR/VZW][ROM][CM12.1][5.1.1_r26] Temasek's UNOFFICIAL Build v18.4, i can't find anything relates s pen, s note, air command. It means that i can use s pen function. Can anyone tell me : does 5.1.1 support s pen?
Thanks so much.
Regards.
All im gonna say is wow !!!
sorry, i don't understand what your mean ?
no you can't use spen with cm roms, you may need to download third party apps or any mods, like trying to install moded spen air command.
He thought maybe Samsung made cm.
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Support? Yes and No. Cyanogen Mod supports S Pen with some apps, honestly I have no interest about CM and stuffs, but you can ask on that particular ROM's thread which apps you might use as replacement to S Note and all that. And by no I mean the integration is nowhere near as flawless as it is on TouchWiz based ROMs, but then again that's quite normal.
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Hi everybody
After flashing rom 5.1.1 from [HLTE/TMO/SPR/VZW][ROM][CM12.1][5.1.1_r26] Temasek's UNOFFICIAL Build v18.4, i can't find anything relates s pen, s note, air command. It means that i can use s pen function. Can anyone tell me : does 5.1.1 support s pen?
Thanks so much.
Regards.
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Let me explain.
The official firmware made by Samsung is called TouchWiz, and there are ROMs based on it, and all of the functionality of the device is kept by flashing such a ROM.
Downsides: as much as the developers here making TouchWiz ROMs are trying, TouchWiz' innate lag is close to impossible to deal with, and people who cannot simply stomach that, flash AOSP ROMs.
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project: code provided by Google themselves, which allows developers to create a ROM based off pure Android.
Which means that when you flash an AOSP ROM (Cyanogenmod, Tema's version of CM, Resurrection Remix, Slim, etc.), you are flashing a ROM that basically turns your device into a Nexus.
Nexus phones don't have S-Pen.
Pure Android doesn't support it.
Anything you found on TouchWiz as functionality CAN be achieved to some extent on an AOSP ROM by flashing various mods and installing apps and frameworks and whatnot, but it will not work as well as on TouchWiz.
So my suggestion is that if you use S-Pen regularly, you will want it with it's full functionality, and for that you find a TouchWiz based ROM, we have a couple of good ones. AryaMod, Audax, various ports of the Note 4 and Note 5...
If you go AOSP on the other hand, your phone will be A LOT faster and more responsive, but you will find a hard time restoring some S-Pen functionality with it.
Yeah, well let me state some FACTS here as well, in case some amateur completely misses the main flaw in the above post.
Yes, TouchWiz lags, that's beyond any question, but who said flashing a Cyanogen ROM turns your device to a Nexus phone? That's beyond ridiculous! AOSP is great, fast, stable, as good as Android could and should be. But Cyanogen isn't that! It's based on AOSP, but with plenty of bugs, and not tiny bugs either. I don't have any time or interest about pointing them out, but just Googling will reveal them.
A Nexus is a Nexus, which runs on naked Android without any sort of customisation whatsoever, which is called AOSP. A Cyanogen port can never have same stability or bug free nature like a AOSP ROM, N E V E R. Now I honestly don't care if some troll or fanboy comes and say there are no bugs, well that's as usual hilarious. You have to have use a stable and bug free thing first to notice or comment on which are bug free, which are not, LOL!
This is the actual sum up:
TouchWiz: Stable, slow, laggy sometimes (when people say the lag is impossible to bear, well that's when you should find your dictionary and look up for the word 'exaggerate'), but with every feature possible, needless to say S Pen integration is excellent.
Cyanogen mod/ or any AOSP port: Turn your Note 3 to something other than Note 3. ROM will be faster than TouchWiz, but again, it's not that fast that it would make a world's difference, and you lose all the Samsung features, and some of them are quite important ones, and there are bugs, some of them are quite important as well, like poor call quality or degraded photo/ video quality! But then again there will always be people who don't call form their "mobile phone" or snap any photos, and then there is the S Pen. But look at the bright side, you can now scratch your ear with it.
At the same time, I would prefer if Samsung moves to clean Android like Motorola or Sony, keeping some of their useful apps like S Note, Messaging an Dialler app etc., cause there is no real point of having a totally heavy kinda skin on top of Android when the main Android is pretty good itself. They can add a bunch of apps, they don't necessarily need to add a whole framework for that.
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