Hello people!
My headunit was recently purchased (before I bought the Nexus One) for my iPhone 3G-S 32gig...
The iPhone unfortunately went for a swim...so I decided to try out the Nexus one for the **** of it.
Now, before, when I had the iPhone... the headunit played all audio, music, navigation via the USB port flawlessly... track information was pushed to the headunit and everything
With the N1 however, I can only use it via USB in "mount" mode... only able to read files directly, no audio streams!
While this wouldn't normally be a problem... the folders are SO disorganized, and my unit will look at ALL .mp3 files on the card... and that can be troublesome with the various ringtones and notification sounds that I have...
So I have resorted to bluetooth
This was not the intention with this headunit however...and I am searching amongst the forums for a "USB Streaming" solution that works LIKE the iPhone
Judging by the Desktop Dock by Google, the audio can indeed be streamed via USB (I am aware the dock can also communicate via Bluetooth...but I'm pretty sure the video demonstration I saw displayed the dock working via USB and via Bluetooth)
Any solutions??
I haven't rooted my phone yet, but will if I need to!
As a mobile electronics installer, i can tell you your most likely out of luck.
What head unit do you have? model number and brand.
the reason it works for iphone is many common electronics come with a stamp that says made for iphone... as ipods are synonymous with mp3's these days, and the units are programmed to read an ipod's files like an ipod does.
perhaps with androids growth, some manufacturers will begin offering made for android stuff. its possible.
I know I'll get flamed for this, lol, but I use my n1 while driving and hate cords in my way, so i just use the bluetooth for phone calls and I keep an Ipod Touch in my glove box hooked up to my head unit, or take the SD Card out of my phone and put it into my headunit.
Most of the USB setups were made with Apple in mind. That's just the way it is.
Be glad you can use Bluetooth.
Currently the only way to do it, is via mounting. Otherwise the Head unit has no way of knowing what's on the SD card. Blame Apple for being proprietary @$$hats imho.
As for me, I use BT Audio every, single day with my N1. (I listen to approx 2 hours of audiobooks daily + Navigation as needed, and sometimes Pandora. It works perfect)
it is a kenwood excelon x993
"This CD receiver is not only iPhone and iPod ready, it also includes a unique EQ feature that extracts the best possible sound from the iPod, iTouch or iPhone."
- from a review of your head unit.
maybe soon we'll see one that says "google ready."
I’ve been going around in circles trying to choose the correct Android head unit. It either has this but doesn't have that or does this but doesn't do that. For the past few years, I’ve had a Parrot Asteroid. I love it’s bluetooth, hands-free and ipod capabilities. It also got me interested in having the full Android os in my car (Parrot doesn't provide this).
So, I decided to make a list of exactly what I'm looking for, and enlist the advice of those who have hands-on experience with various Android head units to find the one I really want. I’m looking for a unit with the following (or, as close as I can get):
Bluetooth that downloads my contacts from phone to unit and allows me to receive and make calls from the unit. I have an iPhone 7. Voice activated calls would be nice, but not required.
Bluetooth that plays iPhone music, AND displays music info on unit and can be controlled (forward, back) from unit.
Full android o/s with ability to download and run apps from Playstore.
Usb, microphone, sd and bluetooth accessible to Android o/s and apps.
(In my research, I have discovered that a unit may have a built-in mic , usb and bluetooth; however, while the unit firmware can access them, apps running under Android o/s can’t)
Ipod capability -- Once iphone is connected via usb, I can search and play phone music library from the unit itself.
(All the video examples I have been able to find show a phone connected to a unit, and while the music plays on the unit, it is controlled on the phone)
I have read a lot about the Newsmy Carpad, and while the Android o/s functionality is exactly what I want, it is not clear from the videos I’ve seen how the Bluetooth (for phone and music) works in the real world, or if it even has ipod capability.
Interested in any suggestions about any units with which folks have real experience making calls and listening to music.
Thanks!!
Here's an initial review for the Ownice K1 (2gb ram/ 16gb Rom android 8 version) and from what I can tell, the first one to appear in English.
Background: This is Ownice's new budget model. No built in 4G support, no DVD slot, 4 core processor, slightly lower internal components (Amplifier, Tuner), TFT screen.
I ordered it on the 11.11 sale for about $200 with DHL shipping and added another 9$ for an external Mic. I ordered the version customized for Ford Mondeo/Galaxy/ S-Max.
Also ordered from other vendors: Ownice TPMS system (has not arrived) , Huawei E8372 4G wingle (arrived shortly after the K1 was installed), and reverse camera that replaces license plate light
Ownice shipped it three days later and it arrived in LA four days after that. From there it was brought to Israel by my kind brother.
Initial Impressions: came well packaged with protective film on the screen. Construction seems good. This is a slim unit and nearly all the connectors are breakouts from proprietary pin-outs on the back.
Installation:
Installation into a 2013-14 S-Max was quite easy as it simply uses the same mounting holes as the OEM unit, and the included connector is wired for the Ford quadlock harness. That said, it included no documentation whatsoever.
1) Connect three rear break-out connections to the back (Quadlock harness, A/V in/out cables, External mic input) and plug the included canbus decoder into the harness
1a) Notice that on harness wiring there is a wire that has a locking connector in the middle that comes disconnected. Assume this is for the reverse camera and connect it
2) Connect quadlock, revers camera RCA. External Mic, GPS antenna, and radio antenna
2a) Notice that they did not include a correct antenna adapter, run to local car audio guy and overpay for an adapter
3) (Spend next six hours wiring in a reverse camera through hatchback (not so easy!)
4) Shove all the wiring behind the unit (plenty of room there) and screw it in, replace trim, voila.
Future items:
5*) 4G wingle arrived a day later so I have only used it with the K1 in hotspot mode, which works fine. I have not gotten around to attaching it directly via USB
6*)TPMS system ordered from DX.com has not arrived yet.
In Use: In the realm of chinese android head units it is no faint praise to say that a unit simply works as one would expect it to, and this unit really does just work 99% as it should. I'll only point out some highlights and a few small disappointments:
+Unit powers on as soon as key is in ignition, stays on after car is shut down until door is opened (just like OEM)
+The reverse camera comes on BEFORE the unit is fully booted (right after the splash screen) so no significant delay there (this was a very pleasant surprise)
+No need to attach extra reverse wiring from reverse camera to car wiring, reverse is already wired via quad-lock
+Steering wheel controls work as they did with OEM unit (but mode button cycles through all inputs, even if they are not installed)
+My existing BAFX bluetooth OBD2 connected fine and works with the included version of torque
+Sound quality with OEM speakers is fine, at least on par with OEM head unit (despite what I've read about ST TDA7388)
+External mic is sensitive enough to work installed in hidden OEM mic location (grill behind map light)
+GPS reception/accuracy is better than my phone's
+Screen splitting works, and is useful
+Push the right knob in and the screen goes blank
-Radio tuner is not as good as the oem unit (I expected this)
-Bluetooth popup to answer calls does not appear for whatsapp calls
-Touchscreen could be a tad more sensitive
-built in media player does not seem to support WMA (thanks to yahoo music (RIP) I have a lot of WMAs) so I mostly use VLC
-No printed manual, onboard manual app does not work, and I can't find any manual online, so it took some futzing and going through the C500 manual to figure a few things out.
That's about it. I don't spend that much time driving these days so haven't gotten around to exploring all the settings and features, but so far I'm quite satisfied.
I appreciate the review; some follow-up questions...
Please tell me if steering wheel controls (up/down track) work on all music apps or just the stock one. Also let me know if you hear any background clicks/pops/noise when WiFi is being accessed. How is the Bluetooth calling quality - can callers hear you ok? Finally can the stock radio and Bluetooth apps be used split screen?
Thanks!
Jeff
twokidsandaphone said:
I appreciate the review; some follow-up questions...
Please tell me if steering wheel controls (up/down track) work on all music apps or just the stock one. Also let me know if you hear any background clicks/pops/noise when WiFi is being accessed. How is the Bluetooth calling quality - can callers hear you ok? Finally can the stock radio and Bluetooth apps be used split screen?
Thanks!
Jeff
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1) Steering wheel controls work with all aps.
2) Haven't heard any noises caused by wifi
3) Bluetooth call quality is good, definitely go with the external mic
4) Yes, those apps and most others work in split screen.
Doncres said:
1) Steering wheel controls work with all aps.
2) Haven't heard any noises caused by wifi
3) Bluetooth call quality is good, definitely go with the external mic
4) Yes, those apps and most others work in split screen.
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Thanks for the answers. One more question, sorry. Does Ok Google work, and/or can you use Google to initiate a call just using voice or microphone button plus voice? Many units "understand" the request to call but fail to be able to put through the call.
Thanks again!
Jeff
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twokidsandaphone said:
Thanks for the answers. One more question, sorry. Does Ok Google work, and/or can you use Google to initiate a call just using voice or microphone button plus voice? Many units "understand" the request to call but fail to be able to put through the call.
Thanks again!
Jeff
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Sorry for the delay in replying.
As far as OK google calls, since the head unit's Bluetooth functionality works as a microphone/speaker, when you run a google now command on the HU, it thinks you want to make a call using the HU, but it has no phone function of it's own, so it cannot place the call. What would be needed is a button on the HU that activates the phone's google now listening. I don't keep my phone in constant listening mode, so not sure how it would work in that situation. Hope that helps.
Here's a few more observations, not entirely good:
1) The steering wheel next and previous track buttons are reversed.
2) There is a problem resuming Bluetooth streaming from my phone. If you push the play button on the HU Bluetooth app after a restart it will freeze and force a reboot.
3) GPS reception is generally excellent with very quick fix, but occasionally for no apparent reason upon startup it will take 5 or so minutes.
4) Even disabling all of automatic time setting, the unit will inexplicably get an hour ahead when booted and then correct a few minutes later.
5) I can't figure out if there is a way to get the Huawei 4G USB router I bought to function as a modem or only as a hotspot.
Hi Doncres,
I've just finished installing my own Ownice K1/G10 unit for my Hyundai Santa Fe.
Installation was a little bit trickier since in order to use the car's original gps antenna, microphone and rear camera I had to cut some wires and change connectors, as well as installing a stepdown DC-DC converter to get the weird 6.5v power required by the original rear camera.
I've been playing a little bit myself with the unit and, given that I'm quite satisfied with it, I would like to know whether you experienced any of the following little annoying problems:
- handsfree call via bluetooth: remote party is always complaining about a small amount of echo
- general audio volume low even at maximum volume (+30), especially for bluetooth phone calls
- the bluetooth active call popup rectangle gets always in the way, even when the rear camera is triggered by the reverse gear, giving some troubles when parking the car and talking to the phone
- Netflix app not working: I had to install an old 2015 version targeting Android 4.4
- parking assistant lines on the rear camera view have wrong perspective angle in comparison to my camera's viewing angle, thus resulting in a projected trapezium rather than a projected rectangle (i.e. the lines are not parallel to actual parking lines); I know I can disable them, however I'd like to change their perspective angle to match the camera
I read somewhere that there are two hidden service menus on Ownice units: the first is accessible via car settings (the "1260" menu) and this works on my unit
The other should be accessible by dialling a specific string in the phone app, however it seems I cannot start the phone app since the K1/G10 comes with no 3G/4G hardware. Any idea on how to enter such menu?
Thanks,
Alberto
agpastore said:
Hi Doncres,
I've just finished installing my own Ownice K1/G10 unit for my Hyundai Santa Fe.
Installation was a little bit trickier since in order to use the car's original gps antenna, microphone and rear camera I had to cut some wires and change connectors, as well as installing a stepdown DC-DC converter to get the weird 6.5v power required by the original rear camera.
I've been playing a little bit myself with the unit and, given that I'm quite satisfied with it, I would like to know whether you experienced any of the following little annoying problems:
- handsfree call via bluetooth: remote party is always complaining about a small amount of echo
- general audio volume low even at maximum volume (+30), especially for bluetooth phone calls
- the bluetooth active call popup rectangle gets always in the way, even when the rear camera is triggered by the reverse gear, giving some troubles when parking the car and talking to the phone
- Netflix app not working: I had to install an old 2015 version targeting Android 4.4
- parking assistant lines on the rear camera view have wrong perspective angle in comparison to my camera's viewing angle, thus resulting in a projected trapezium rather than a projected rectangle (i.e. the lines are not parallel to actual parking lines); I know I can disable them, however I'd like to change their perspective angle to match the camera
I read somewhere that there are two hidden service menus on Ownice units: the first is accessible via car settings (the "1260" menu) and this works on my unit
The other should be accessible by dialling a specific string in the phone app, however it seems I cannot start the phone app since the K1/G10 comes with no 3G/4G hardware. Any idea on how to enter such menu?
Thanks,
Alberto
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Hi, I'm not sure I can really help other than to confirm a few of the the issues.
-Don't think I have an echo issue, but there seems to be a delay until a caller first hears me.
- I get very good volume. I would assume this is an issue of whether the built in amp is a good match for the speakers. Could be an issue with the impedance.
-Yeah, the call button overlay is sometimes annoying, it can block nav screen as well and no way to hide
-I noticed that Netflix was no showing in the app store, but not a big use for me
-the camera I bought has built in guidelines so I disabled them.
-no idea bout the service menu
The only issues that really bother me are:
-the occasional GPS not acquiring satellites, which I now think may be from a defective antenna. I ordered a replacement and we'll see if that helps.
-the fact that if I have an app like stitcher playing, i then get in the car and it stops it when it connects to the BT, but when I go to the BT music app it will either resume fine or if I pres play it will crash the entire device and force a reboot. Mostly I just run streaming apps on the Unit so not much BT streaming anyway.
Also, my TPMS unit finally showed up 2 months after ordering it from DX.com. Looking forward to installing that some time in the next couple of weeks.
Hi.
I am newbie, and i may be wrong in posting the question.
I got 2 din touch Android for Nissan Murano 2018 - model K1, 2 / 16 GB. Ownice 8227L.
On the manufacturer's website, the model has not been supported by software updates for a long time.
Last owner tried to update it with different firmware versions, including those downloaded from this site, and from 4pda. initially did not save the software that was on it from the factory. Now - it has a version of Android installed in which the radio does not work. Everything works, sound files from usb card play, except the radio.
Help me please, where can I get the firmware on it to make the radio work?
Hello all, as the title states, I've begun my journey down the rabbit hole looking to upgrade my audi system. The vehicle is a 2009 Merc E350 (W211 chassis) that I've had for 9 years now, I'm trying to refresh it's tech since I can't justify getting a new car. The factory H&K system sounds good enough that I've never been pushed to improve it. There are a few "requirements" if you will that I'm hoping I can sort out with the help of members here. I've done a fair amount of searching, but I've come up short on the specifics.
Here are the big things I'm hoping to achieve:
1. one of the 8.8" ultra-wide units. I tried searching for 8.8, but came up short in the results. I really like the look of these, they look more modern compared to the smaller screens that have buttons and volume knob to look like the old factory radio.
2. the ability to connect a USB to optical digital device with digital volume through the head unit control to connect to a DSP, this is to maintain digital signal and use the better quality DAC's in a DSP. Again, came up short searching. There was a lot of USB to analog, but I'm seeking optical. Analog would be a fall-back, I have a Audioquest Dragonfly that would be better than the built in DAC's as a last resort.
3. Cellular to play Pandora and Qobuz on the unit. I think this is pretty easy with a USB dongle, anybody have any issues using one of them with a GoogleFi data only SIM?
4. Full google maps navigation. Should be no problem based on what I see. Is the navigation volume control separate than the music volume like it is in Android Auto radios?
5. An interface that's much like an OEM would have or Android Auto to make media playback controls easy to access while in navigation. I know there is a lot of subjectivity here, maybe some custom ROM's would be the way to go?
Does anybody know what might fit the bill? There are a lot of 8.8" radios out there for the W211, but I can't find info covering the above. Has anybody else been in the search of getting really high quality audio out of one of these android units? How about a USB to digital interface that can tie into the MOST fiber system natively (to put off buying amps and just keep the factory amp and speakers)?
Modify Android 8.1 head unit for better menus & easier BlueT controller compatibility
I bought an iMars 7 from banggood, I believe it’s called a “Android Head Unit AC8227l” but from reading on here it could be a YT9217 or a YT9218 (?)
The menu systems I’ve seen running on these online, on pics or YouTube videos vary. But my menu system is quite clunky and limited.
I can connect a phone via Bluetooth for calls or on-device music controls, but I can not connect any Bluetooth controllers (I’d like a Bluetooth control for music and calls since using a touch screen and driving is a no-no). But I would also like to connect a Bluetooth games controller for my girlfriend to be able to play on it when we’re driving on long journeys.
Also, some better menu controls would be useful as the settings are limited at brightness, WiFi, and a few other minor things. Some display settings, better sound settings, and some others would be really useful.
I havnt wired the radio antenna in because of a lack of a female to female jack, and the reverse camera hasn’t been set up yet so their compatibility isn’t an issue right now!
Is there a way of modifying the software to allow for what I’m after? I’m decent with tech, but rooting an android device (even if that’s the correct terminology) is new to me!
Thank you for any help or advice
Braadlee said:
I bought an iMars 7 from banggood, I believe it’s called a “Android Head Unit AC8227l” but from reading on here it could be a YT9217 or a YT9218 (?)
The menu systems I’ve seen running on these online, on pics or YouTube videos vary. But my menu system is quite clunky and limited.
I can connect a phone via Bluetooth for calls or on-device music controls, but I can not connect any Bluetooth controllers (I’d like a Bluetooth control for music and calls since using a touch screen and driving is a no-no). But I would also like to connect a Bluetooth games controller for my girlfriend to be able to play on it when we’re driving on long journeys.
Also, some better menu controls would be useful as the settings are limited at brightness, WiFi, and a few other minor things. Some display settings, better sound settings, and some others would be really useful.
I havnt wired the radio antenna in because of a lack of a female to female jack, and the reverse camera hasn’t been set up yet so their compatibility isn’t an issue right now!
Is there a way of modifying the software to allow for what I’m after? I’m decent with tech, but rooting an android device (even if that’s the correct terminology) is new to me!
Thank you for any help or advice
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Sorry to say, but forget about all your wishes. BT is not available for other devices as phone and OBD.
Modifying the software to get this fixed... good luck...