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[Q] Display issues on Omnia 7?

Hi guys,
I played with a Omnia7 at a local T-Mobile store yesterday. While I absolutly like the device and the colors of the OLED display I noticed a small issue: It looked like a few items (probably the ones beein showed most often) wrer like "burned" into the display. E.g. on a light background I could allways guess the Line "Windows Phone" and the logo at the top of the display. This stayed that way regardless what application I've been running.
So my question is if someone else ever notices things like that on her/his Omnia 7? I would guess thats due to the device beeing switched on all day long for months now so that the display has allready seen some sort of damage...

Nope, mine is working fine.
btw, i may experienced some similar issue on my previous device, the htc touch pro running wm6.5. some part of the screen just stayed there like a gloomy shadow for some time, esp when the screen is in dark backgrounds. i wonder if it is a design flaw or because of the ROM i'm running.

take a look at what happened to me! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973337

That happens to OLED screens if their left on for long.
One of the reasons we dont have the option to leave the display always on in our phones.
Generally it mainly only happens to display phones since their screen is nearly always on and stay in the same place.

evolutionqy7 said:
That happens to OLED screens if their left on for long.
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Generally it mainly only happens to display phones since their screen is nearly always on and stay in the same place.
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Thats actually what I guessed, both.

I have my screen set to 5 mins (just for the sake if im on a game and dont want the app to tombstone and wait for a long reload)
But have no issues so far
The only complaint i have with AMOLED screen is the damn clarity is so poor compared to LCD's.
Where as it was crisp clear on SLCD on my HD7, the clarity on the SAMOLED screen reminds me newspapers wher you can see the squares in text and its not clear.

Weird screen issue, confirmed on two so far.

I don't know if these if happening on all our s2's.
basically, I noticed brightness goes down when displaying a lot of whites. e.g. google vs the whites in a page with more darker areas. (i don't think it's my eyes.)
I've never noticed this on my hd2, or any other phones.
when displaying google's in the browser, the white is not impressive at all.
another test i did was with an image I created (attached), half black half white. open in gallery and slide it so more black shows, or more white shows. The whole screen changes brightness!
My friend's S2 does the same.
can anyone confirm?

asefsef said:
I don't know if these if happening on all our s2's.
basically, I noticed brightness goes down when displaying a lot of whites. e.g. google vs the whites in a page with more darker areas. (i don't think it's my eyes.)
I've never noticed this on my hd2, or any other phones.
when displaying google's in the browser, the white is not impressive at all.
another test i did was with an image I created (attached), half black half white. open in gallery and slide it so more black shows, or more white shows. The whole screen changes brightness!
can anyone confirm?
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That's actually a power-saving feature you can turn off.
Go into Settings -> Display -> Scroll down and untick 'Auto adjust screen power'.

asefsef said:
Weird screen issue, confirmed on two so far.
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You exchanged your first phone because of this silly thing?

AXIS of Reality said:
That's actually a power-saving feature you can turn off.
Go into Settings -> Display -> Scroll down and untick 'Auto adjust screen power'.
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Its not.
Its definitely there irrespective of display settings.
Basically even when you are not moving picture, have a look near the border.
There is definite grey banding near the border. It kinda looks like white is bleeding into the black.
And its there on every SGS2, every single one. It can be hardware or software issue.
@OP. you are definitely not alone. I was actually having talk with my friends in UK. 6 of us now have SGS2. 2 are from O2, 3 from P4U and 1 from Handtec and mine is from Clove.
All are experiencing same thing. Its definitely not your eyes.
@others. Its not a glaring issue. You wont notice i t unless there is extreme contrast images on screen like this one. My dad still couldnt notice it when I was showing it to him. But its still there. Will upload video, but its hard to pick on video as well.

It's an option in the Display settings - auto adjust screen brightness after analysing image or something similar.
Samsung thing, I think, since my Omnia 7 with Windows Phone did exactly the same thing. It's trying to save you power and completely normal.

Funkym0nkey said:
Its not.
Its definitely there irrespective of display settings.
Basically even when you are not moving picture, have a look near the border.
There is definite grey banding near the border. It kinda looks like white is bleeding into the black.
And its there on every SGS2, every single one. It can be hardware or software issue.
@OP. you are definitely not alone. I was actually having talk with my friends in UK. 6 of us now have SGS2. 2 are from O2, 3 from P4U and 1 from Handtec and mine is from Clove.
All are experiencing same thing. Its definitely not your eyes.
@others. Its not a glaring issue. You wont notice i t unless there is extreme contrast images on screen like this one. My dad still couldnt notice it when I was showing it to him. But its still there. Will upload video, but its hard to pick on video as well.
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Thanks very much guys, I think I can accept it if it's all built like that. With that option off it really helped! (I feel a lil retarded now). But for some reason that test image I made still has that dimming effect (double tap it in the gallery, this instant change makes it obvious), but maybe that's normal, not fussed. (normal web browsing is perfect)
And no I didn't exchange any phones. Mine does have a dead pixel tho. Can anyone check their screens for dead pixels for me? I know someone had blue lines and stuff on their units, that's a bit drastic. I'm just wondering how many actually have say 1 dead pixel, so I have a better picture before I actually exchange mine or something.

asefsef said:
Yea, I've already got that turned off including power saving mode (mentioned in first post).
Thanks very much tho guys, I think I can accept it if it's all built like that.
And no I didn't exchange any phones. Mine does have a dead pixel tho. Can anyone check their screens for dead pixels for me? I know someone had blue lines and stuff on their units, that's a bit drastic. I'm just wonder how many actually have say 1 dead pixel, so I have a better picture before I actually exchange mine or something.
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Nah, no dead pixels or other screen issues here. If you have dead pixel, i would return it.
Here is the video, its not clear as camera limitations dont really show it properly, but at 720P you can see it for fraction of second, that is not the lens glare but screen turning grey right above the white border.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGr7xJ1JIjU
around 0:15-0-18 in that video.

As mentioned, its a power saving feature as AMOLED screens don't like whites as they drain power, they prefer blacks. So reducing the brightness helps to save battery.

Funkym0nkey said:
Nah, no dead pixels or other screen issues here. If you have dead pixel, i would return it.
Here is the video, its not clear as camera limitations dont really show it properly, but at 720P you can see it for fraction of second, that is not the lens glare but screen turning grey right above the white border.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGr7xJ1JIjU
around 0:15-0-18 in that video.
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I can see it grey in the video, almost like that gingerbread scroll limit effect. very hard to see in the video though, would have just said it was the camera.
Yea I'm considering returning. In my other post, I mentioned how Handtec got back to me. In short, not fault since only 1 pixel, but told me I can exchange/return within 7 days. But, they said since it's not a fault, I'll have to pay shipping both ways. (£28 per way, ouch)
Does that sound right??

Just a thought, could not the grey area when moving a black/white border area simply be the screen pixels taking a few milliseconds to go from completely dim, to grey, then to completely white, ie just a response time, albeit a bit slower than what I would have guessed?
On my SGS, going into a completely black app drawer with bright icons and moving around, it also has a very slight dragging effect on some white/black constrasting areas?

Galaxy S2 Weird Screenburn issue

Ive had this powerhouse of a phone for just under 16 Hours, Screen has only been used for around half an hour etc,
Ive just noticed some screenburn on the screen The four buttons - (Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Apps) are visible on the screen when I look at a grey-ish background (Such as the speedx initial bg). Ive been through 6 Galaxy S2s, Three of them had this issue - Is it me, or is this a bit weird? Phone screen on for only 30mins since it was factory shiny&new, and theres already light screenburn.
Is this a characteristic of SAMOLED Plus, or is this a faultly batch? (Im on my 5th replacement phone from Amazon due to various faults). It seems a bit weird, a phone thats cost near £475 inc has this kind of issue.
Thanks In Advance,
Aman.
(Picture attached, You have to look quite carefully to see the greyish outlines of the boxes)

It doesn't look screen burn as it looks coloured. it might be the app you are running has transparency.

afaik, OLED does suffer from screen burn like plasmas do - potentially, but not that quick!

Well, it can happen. After a month i started seeing the same thing when pulling down the notification bar. So it's not app related, cause i don't use other launcher, i can clearly see the shadow of the 4 icons for a few seconds when pulling down the notification bar. They disappear pretty quickly, i'm not that bothered about that.

Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+

hi i dont know if my post will help or not
put i have a samilliar proplem with my sgs2 screen
i have proplems with colors like grey and dark blue
i will attack photos for u to see if u have the same proplem with colors like me
and my phone is only 14 day old
i really dont know if the colors are normal or not
p.s: make ur display 60/100 to see the colors
on my sgs1 the screen was way better
the first two pics are of the grey color ( to see if u have the same like this pic open msg and write a messege there is an option to write sound messege click on it
it will show the same thing see if u have the same like me
and the third pic is of the home screen to compare see if there is something wrong with ur screen
also could some one please look at his device and my pictures so i can now if there is something wrong with my device
thanks alot in advance

EarlZ said:
Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
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Seems like a SAMOLED+ limitation as you say. I was just curious, it shouldnt bother me much whilst im using my phone normally.
ashish.vig said:
I just got my screen replaced, because of the screen burn issue, had a violet patch on top left, right where the viber icon sits, wihc caused the pinkish tint screen. Got my screen replaced in under 20 mins at samung service centre in Mumbai.
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If the screenburn gets really bad, I suppose i can always just use the 2yr Warranty I have on the phone to get the screen replaced. Waste of an invisibleshield though.
Considering the phone is less than a day old, the screen might go really weird in 2-3 months - Which is what im worried about.

ayhamx360 said:
on my sgs1 the screen was way better
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I would have to agree that the S1 screen is was a better display even if did have a more jagged edges on the fonts.

I have a similar issue in the messaging app, but with the keyboard. If I 'enable'(/turn on/whatever) it then disable it, it's 'shadow' stays there for a couple of seconds. It is however not a permanent burn in, so I think it's just the screen's limitation and it doesn't really bother me as this screen is still by far the best I've ever used.

EarlZ said:
Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
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wouldn't that screw up video playback though? sounds more like a software bug

I turned the clock on the notification bar back to 24hr , as i read/saw the AM/PM can burn in as they are displayed a lot longer then the 24hr digits which move at least every hour.

I just discovered this issue last night. I had been noticing a few lines here and there on my regular usage and I thought it was just a defective screen. Through the use of Terminal's blue screen, I realized that it wasn't defective.
I have a car dock, and use PowerAMP in the car every day. As you can see above, those burn ins are the buttons in PowerAMP. I went to take a picture of my SGS2 with my N1, and while looking at the blue screen on my SGS2 through the display of the N1, I noticed the N1 had the issue too!
I'm trying to run JScreenFix now to see if it solves the problem, but I highly doubt it.
Will Samsung even honour the warranty for things like this?

I have an SGS1 of 1 year old and my SGS 2 bought in may. Side by side, I will never exchange my SGS2 for another SGS1. Screen quality (colours and details) is by far better on SGS2. No comparision
I also don't see any burn in in both devices (keybord test, status bar...). Maybe some defective devices around that you just should exchange

If you want to test your screen or anything on your phone type *#0*# into the keypad
If the burn don't show up on green blue or red then its something else

I also have the same issue. I can see shadow of the System task bar. It was quite vivid on RED and it shows as lighter blue on blue colour. And on white it became pale white. Bright yellow as well on yellow.
I've tried various things like put the screen on full brightness on Black and Red and blue but still have the shadow there.
I will see if i can get my warranty repair.

I just wanted to confirm that the SGS2 sure can have a Burn In, as it was declared before as "Burn In Proof".
I noticed it while playing the recently released Game "Osmos HD". The game's color temperature is pretty blue-dark, and thats where I can see a slight burn in of the Task Bar.
Afterwards I checked my screen with various LCD Test programs and BAM - with low brightness I see slight burn in of the whole task bar. I can even see the signal indicator, the battery percentage and the spot where the clock sits.
But its only visible at very low brightness and a blue-purple coloring.
I called my brother, who has the Galaxy S2 as well, and he directly went and checked with LCD Tester as well. He, too, reported to me that he also has a slight screen burn in of the task bar, tho its very tough to spot. I guess, if you dont know its there, u wont notice it.
We both have our SGS2 models now for roughly a year, and the screens already seem to decrease in quality and stability.
I am a fan of Super AMOLED+ color quality and contrasts, but my 2 bothers and me have all the yellow tint issue, tho its not very drastic, and all devices start to get kind of a permanent screen burn in.
Its really sad to see that the otherwise fabulous screens already show its age. I hoped that Samsung learned from the SGS1's issues and user feedback, but sadly, it seems like they kind of ignored the fact that the Super AMOLED cant take much action...
My girlfriends Desire HD's screen (which was my phone before I got the SGS2) is still showing good colors. Sometimes I think about getting an LCD device again...

I think what most posters in this thread are reporting is Samoled ghosting, ie image retention for a few secs. Its not permanent, unlike burn-in, which some people may experience after some months of usage.

bambollero said:
I think what most posters in this thread are reporting is Samoled ghosting, ie image retention for a few secs. Its not permanent, unlike burn-in, which some people may experience after some months of usage.
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No, its not ghosting at all.
The taskbar image thats burned in is from MIUI. And since I am running either and Sammy ICS Build or Androidmeda for a while now, this image must've been there for longer than I thought.
As I said, I just noticed it yesterday while trying out the Osmos HD Demo. And its clearly the MIUI taskbar. Must be there for more than a couple of days already.

No screen burn on my Galaxy S2! Btw, been comparing screen to iphone 4/4s and Galaxy S2 screen way better! You have to have some sort of "telescopic" vision to notice resolution advantige on 4s... Who anyway reads webpages fully zoomed out? LoL... With magnifyng glass?? Contrast and colors advantige is huge on galaxy side....
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mad_max911 said:
No screen burn on my Galaxy S2! Btw, been comparing screen to iphone 4/4s and Galaxy S2 screen way better! You have to have some sort of "telescopic" vision to notice resolution advantige on 4s... Who anyway reads webpages fully zoomed out? LoL... With magnifyng glass?? Contrast and colors advantige is huge on galaxy side....
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I dunno why u are now comparing with the iPhone 4/4s here, but thanks ;-)
For how long are you using ur Galaxy S2 now? Mine is running non-stop since a roughly a year now.
And yes, it seems like a permanent screen burn in on my end. Just checked again, same visibility of the probably weeks-old MIUI taskbar.

Screen ghosting

Hi,
Just bought this tablet and noticed that when scrolling there is small amount of screen ghosting. Is it normal or it might be a defective device?
Also is there a way to disable swipe up from edge of screen to launch HiVoice?
Thanks

farshadatis said:
Hi,
Just bought this tablet and noticed that when scrolling there is small amount of screen ghosting. Is it normal or it might be a defective device?
Also is there a way to disable swipe up from edge of screen to launch HiVoice?
Thanks
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I can see the ghosting on mine too. I'm interested to know if it's a fault. I read a post about a Huawei p9 having the ghosting problem and it was a fault.

Mine's is also ghosting. The M3 has an IPS display with a particular slow response time -- 38ms according to notebookcheck.net . In comparison, my TFT computer monitor is more like 4ms. But then, my computer monitor is 144hz and used for gaming. My tablet, not so much. The trade-off is that IPS has stronger colors and deeper blacks.
Now, it could be using an overdrive feature that exaggerates the ghosting. But even if it were, I doubt they give us the option to turn it off.
tl;dr version: I supspect all M3s have ghosting by virtue of the tech in the screen. Should be fine for regular use and watching movies and the like. Might be a problem in particularly intensive games.

The ghosting is much apparent when switching from black to white. Scrolling with black text and reading mangas isn't the most enjoyable task for the M3.

Display issues

Hello guys, suddenly I'm having display issues on my k20. I've attached a link to the video, when i pull down the notification bar, look how the blacks are loading a bit late. When i turn off dark mode, i see no issues like this, it's just the beautiful display again. Even i had same issues with my dark wallpaper. Please check, if you've same issues. I'm really concerned about it. Also, this maybe screen flickering but when i increased brightness, the issue didn't disappear, it was still persistent but at lower levels.
Link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1--merciSogckieE_p9QRm9WdwtedFAYq/view?usp=drivesdk

That's normal behavior for amoled displays.

1st: If this is the display problem, how can you expect we can see this on a screen capture??
2nd (probably because of the 1st): I can't see anything wrong.
3rd: I have no display issues at all.
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Never heard of this.

opica said:
1st: If this is the display problem, how can you expect we can see this on a screen capture??
2nd (probably because of the 1st): I can't see anything wrong.
3rd: I have no display issues at all.
Never heard of this.
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Can't you see that voilet-ish colour instead of black when I'm swiftly moving the notification bar? It's clearly visible in video, you might want to check again.

Nope, watched it at least 5 times, on my PC and my 9T. Can't see anything peculiar.

I can not see anything wrong or violet at all. Am playing this on my computer at 1080 resolution and 0.25 playback speed and there is nothing to see.
If your screen is faulty, we are not able to see it on video you have shared with us of course

DAMN IT! Even i see nothing from my laptop
I think I'm having screen issues, only when its dark mode, else the screen is working absolutely fine!
I need to get to the service center ASAP! :crying:
Edit: Guys can you try doing the same and look if the issue is persistent in your screen too?! It would really be helpful for me.

Kaiwalya said:
DAMN IT! Even i see nothing from my laptop
I think I'm having screen issues, only when its dark mode, else the screen is working absolutely fine!
I need to get to the service center ASAP! :crying:
Edit: Guys can you try doing the same and look if the issue is persistent in your screen too?! It would really be helpful for me.
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It's normal for OLED panels, some are better, some worse. My phone has it too. No need to go to the service center.

I too have it brother. Dark mode has it normal mode doesn't. It can also be noticed if you open youtube and scroll back and forth quickly. The blacks seem to be spilling or streching. I saw that on your video and I don't know if it is normal or not but i too have that and wanted to ask someone about that.
Take a look at this
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...moled-phone-have-this-or-only-the-op3.451965/

i guess this is normal ,im having it too in my past mate 10 pro .

epicblue8 said:
I too have it brother. Dark mode has it normal mode doesn't. It can also be noticed if you open youtube and scroll back and forth quickly. The blacks seem to be spilling or streching. I saw that on your video and I don't know if it is normal or not but i too have that and wanted to ask someone about that.
Take a look at this
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People are claiming this to be normal, but after searching a lot i got to know these kind of issues come after 1-2years, not in a week or month. So I'm trying my best to replace my device or get the screen changed. I don't understand why Xiaomi is keeping the colours to pure blacks when they know their displays are facing smearing issues. I hope someone just changes that pure black colour to very dark grey colour, system widely. Some developer tested(on OP7 pro) the battery consumption difference with pure black and dark grey and it turned out that, dark grey consumes only 0.067% more power than dark inky blacks. I'm humbly requesting developers to change the colour, or at least have an option for the same.

My display when there is low light, the brightness is set to low and the image I see on the display is darkish I can see a vertical line at the left side of the display, is this normal or should I return It?

It's normal for Amoled screens (from first day of use). Just search for Amoled black smearing and you'll find a lot of videos and articles. S10 has it, iPhones have it too.

Kaiwalya said:
People are claiming this to be normal, but after searching a lot i got to know these kind of issues come after 1-2years, not in a week or month. So I'm trying my best to replace my device or get the screen changed. I don't understand why Xiaomi is keeping the colours to pure blacks when they know their displays are facing smearing issues. I hope someone just changes that pure black colour to very dark grey colour, system widely. Some developer tested(on OP7 pro) the battery consumption difference with pure black and dark grey and it turned out that, dark grey consumes only 0.067% more power than dark inky blacks. I'm humbly requesting developers to change the colour, or at least have an option for the same.
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That article it's literally from weeks after users got their OP3.

Ikarem said:
My display when there is low light, the brightness is set to low and the image I see on the display is darkish I can see a vertical line at the left side of the display, is this normal or should I return It?
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I have faint vertical lines on the right of the display when the brightness is low which is how I normally use it. I also have black smearing on pitch black to dark color transition. I think thats normal, it doesn't really bother me all that much.

The best way to reproduce this issue is turn off brightness to minimum and turn on reading mode to max. Then you'll see delay of displaying some colors (mostly gray)
Odoslané z Mi 9T pomocou Tapatalku

My k20 has this issue and it's annoying that after paying for a flagship killer, we just got a cheap display which is not just low in quality but has these issue in dark mode which i think most of us use. Interestingly when i record this from screen recorder,it doesn't show up much but the same can be seen visually. So, this is definitely an issue that redmi is trying to let go.

Xda_captain said:
My k20 has this issue and it's annoying that after paying for a flagship killer, we just got a cheap display which is not just low in quality but has these issue in dark mode which i think most of us use. Interestingly when i record this from screen recorder,it doesn't show up much but the same can be seen visually. So, this is definitely an issue that redmi is trying to let go.
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As you "record from screen recorder" you do not record from the screen as you may like to think. You capture the video signal BEFORE it gets to the screen. So any imperfections caused by the amoled screen do not show up on a screen capture.
Anyway, this is a normal weakness with all amoled screens that I have seen.

It is soooo annoying when in dark mode at low brightness, I feel like I couldn't stand it anymore. The worst experience of display usage ever.
Maybe with DC dimming update that might happen someday, the issue won't be as intrusive and pronounce as it is right now. But whenn???
UPDATE:
So I found a workaround for this issue with an app. It's called Screen Balance. Basically it adds a filter overlay on your screen (ineffective on notification panel, because android restriction). Set it to either flourescent or flourescent (warm) at 15% strength minimum, and both brightness and contrast at 100%. You won't see perfect black anymore, but very close to that and no smearing effects visible unless you're really trying to.

I've bought Mi 9T Pro and have the same issue (also see it in your video). Did you fixed that?