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I tried searching to see if this has already been discussed, but like all vBulletin forums, the search function rejected USB and Pen (as in pen drive) and a few other essential but three-letter words. So I found zero.
I have a 4 GB USB U3 thumb drive that I always carry with me--until I lose it, that is. I would like to load it up activesync (or not--whatever works) and a whole bunch of files I want to install on my HTC Touch Pro (AT&T Fuze). I have a short cable with a male mini USB connector at one end and a female regular-sized USB connector on the other (so I can slip the male USB thumb drive connector into the cable and thence connect it to my TouchPro).
I'm not sure whether this will work, but it seems like it should. This way, I can carry with me all of my files-to-be-installed and work on customizing my fuze anytime, anywhere. I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little. (i have a 32 GB F card and a 32 GB SD card in my iP 211.)
For starters, I can't even figure out how to install Windows Mobile Device Center on the thumb drive--the process keeps wanting to mess with the AS/Winmobile Device Center already istalled (and used for another WM device).
Maybe there's a way to do with without AS or the Device Center. That's fine with me. All I care about is having access to the many, many apps I have waiting on the flash drive.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sandra
Im no expert, but I dont think many devices have the capability for being hosts, meaning they cant have external memory devices attach except through the supplied card slot.
There are a couple out there which can handle it, but they normally come with a usb port built in. Otherwise I doubt its possible. I dont think its one of those things which can be programmed. Of course, I could be entirely wrong about it.
Edit: Ok, im completely wrong about it. I just found a web page through google saying that many devices with wm on dating back to Pocket PC 2002 do in fact have the ability to do it.
My bad. lol
http://www.mypdacafe.com/articles.php?id=219
See this threads for discussion on Touch Pro's USB host possibilities:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905&highlight=usb+host
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I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little.
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What size do you have? They are currently available up to 16 gig, and 32 is coming. I keep all my cabs on my Sandisk 16. As for USB host, see the post above with the link to the thread. The chipset does not appear to support it. BTW, if you do a search on "USB host", you will find the thread.
I'm about to follow those links you guys recommended, but I wanted to say a quick thanks to you all. I didn't know anything about USB hosting, etc, and it's a whole lot easier to think anything is possible if you don't know anything than if you are well-educated. (OTOH, I suppose that that knowing might also inhibit experimenting which means you don't pursue new ideas. Hence the box we have to think outside of.)
Thanks again,
Sandra
I'd recommend a Trio adapter: Trio is not a brand name, just a mechanical name they have given this adapter. I had one made by A-Data and its awesome.
The adapter itself is an SD card that accepts a MicroSD on the side. However, the neat part is the fact that you can remove a piece and voila! you have a USB stick.
http://memoryworld.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=14&products_id=386 is the first hit from google. I bought mine from Newegg way back in the day. Sadly it was ran over when my phone was. The MicroSD card was good, but the adapter died. I am saving up to get the new SDHC version and a 16GB MicroSD card.
BE ADVISED: there are similar products out there called DUAL adapters: the memory is non removable in those. What that means is that there is no MicroSD card that comes out.
Enjoy!
As the title asks.. How much space would you say is actually inside the nexus 7? Is everything super tight in there?
Reason I ask is that I have an idea. I am wondering if there is enough room to stuff the internals of a really thin SD Card reader in there. If yes,
then the next question is there room to access the wires going to the micro USB port? The plan would be to solder in the wires from a OTG cable and run it to the Card reader.
So basically I am wondering if it's possible to wire in a card reader, run it as OTG and have a Nexus 7 with expandable storage..?
P.S. I don't have a nexus 7 and I ask because if this is possible I might as well buy the $199 8gb version and use the money saved to buy the parts needed to make this work. (if it's even possible)
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As the title asks.. How much space would you say is actually inside the nexus 7? Is everything super tight in there?
Reason I ask is that I have an idea. I am wondering if there is enough room to stuff the internals of a really thin SD Card reader in there. If yes,
then the next question is there room to access the wires going to the micro USB port? The plan would be to solder in the wires from a OTG cable and run it to the Card reader.
So basically I am wondering if it's possible to wire in a card reader, run it as OTG and have a Nexus 7 with expandable storage..?
P.S. I don't have a nexus 7 and I ask because if this is possible I might as well buy the $199 8gb version and use the money saved to buy the parts needed to make this work. (if it's even possible)
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Even if you could fit it in and wire it up, how you gonna write to it? If it's "hooked up" via the OTG cable you spliced into the existing cable to the Micro-USB port, it's a fair bet that the device will not "also" be able to connect USB to the PC at the same time. And this is assuming it were even possible to begin with for the device to write to an external SD Card via OTG directly. I know that the Flash or SD card can be pre-loaded with media PRIOR to being connected to the Nexus, but I I don't know if A: The Nexus can write directly to said card or B: it could so so while also connected to Windows. The first one someone who has an OTG cable can check easily enough. But that last one is impossible to check on a device that isn't already modded. Also remember that as far as Android is concerned, you already have an SD card. It's just virtual. Not sure how it would handle having two. Honestly I doubt this would work but you could always try.
As I recall - the Memo 370T did have an SD card reader.
From the IFixit teardown, the motherboard in the Nexus 7 is from the Memo 370T.
There is definitely a spot for the (removed) back facing camera, and as I recall
the SD pads are available. Of course, that might have been for HDMI, since the presenter units had an HDMI connector.
Have fun tearing your Nexus 7 apart - nothing is worth the risk to me.
I like my Nexus 7 as it is...
Landara said:
Even if you could fit it in and wire it up, how you gonna write to it? If it's "hooked up" via the OTG cable you spliced into the existing cable to the Micro-USB port, it's a fair bet that the device will not "also" be able to connect USB to the PC at the same time. And this is assuming it were even possible to begin with for the device to write to an external SD Card via OTG directly. I know that the Flash or SD card can be pre-loaded with media PRIOR to being connected to the Nexus, but I I don't know if A: The Nexus can write directly to said card or B: it could so so while also connected to Windows. The first one someone who has an OTG cable can check easily enough. But that last one is impossible to check on a device that isn't already modded. Also remember that as far as Android is concerned, you already have an SD card. It's just virtual. Not sure how it would handle having two. Honestly I doubt this would work but you could always try.
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I've used OTG on my Nexus S and what it does is mounts the USB stick or SDcard as and external drive. So basically, yea you will have to go into the USB OTG app and mount the SD card to start using it. I never played around with it enough to see exactly how it works so maybe somebody with experience can fill us in with that.
I see your point about plugging in the tablet into the computer. But I don't see why it couldn't at least charge the device even if you mounted the SD card. I could be wrong, I am no expert.
I thought that the OTG app actually enabled you to use the internal sd and external USB storage at the same time. Somebody please clarify. So if that's true, then browsing, play videos/games/etc should work as normal. It will just treat it as another drive.
I don't know how it would work if you plugged it into your USB port on your computer with OTG enabled and the SD card mounted but like I said, maybe somebody who specializes in this can clear this up.
Hi just got my new nexus 7 and it's awesome but I got storage question.
I got the 32 gig and try to add some video s only to find that I quickly filled the damn thing. So I guess that I do need the USB otg, I have a 32 gig micro sd card and was thinking about buying a 64 gig card on cyber Monday.
So I have two questions:
Is there a difference in speeds between USB micro sd card readers?
Will the USB micro SD card reader limit the speed of the class 10 card?
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androidG said:
Hi just got my new nexus 7 and it's awesome but I got storage question.
I got the 32 gig and try to add some video s only to find that I quickly filled the damn thing. So I guess that I do need the USB otg, I have a 32 gig micro sd card and was thinking about buying a 64 gig card on cyber Monday.
So I have two questions:
Is there a difference in speeds between USB micro sd card readers?
Will the USB micro SD card reader limit the speed of the class 10 card?
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hello mate, the speed is in the card not reader, use a class 10 card and that is all the speed you need otherwise the readers are pretty much all the same.
I am fairly sure the card reader itself has to support class10 (I suspect all modern ones do), and there is still the problem of the slowest part will still be the USB connection between card reader and the Nexus 7 - which is USB 2.0 (?) - although I'm not sure if class10 would saturate a USB 2 connection.
I would also try and get a mains powered one, not a USB powered one. I have 2 here and the USB powered one, with a wireless keyboard+mouse (Logitech MK520), + PS2 Joypad wired does cause a random reboot problem at times - possibly due to lack of USB power.
My mains powered hub is a cheap Xenta hub I got from Ebuyer and works a treat.
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I am fairly sure the card reader itself has to support class10 (I suspect all modern ones do), and there is still the problem of the slowest part will still be the USB connection between card reader and the Nexus 7 - which is USB 2.0 (?) - although I'm not sure if class10 would saturate a USB 2 connection.
I would also try and get a mains powered one, not a USB powered one. I have 2 here and the USB powered one, with a wireless keyboard+mouse (Logitech MK520), + PS2 Joypad wired does cause a random reboot problem at times - possibly due to lack of USB power.
My mains powered hub is a cheap Xenta hub I got from Ebuyer and works a treat.
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yeah I though about that but I will mostly be using this at the university and during rides and having an external hard drive kind of ruins the portability of a tablet and makes my laptop a better choice, but I want to play with my new toy!!!
I looked around the internet and from what I read is that usb 2.0 can go up to 37mb/s and even the SanDisk Ultra 64 GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card tops out at 30mb/s. however the microsd card reader can very in compatibility from just microsd to sdhc all the way up to sdxc so even though you dont need usb 3.0 for speed the only card readers Ive seen that support sdxc is the usb 3.0 ones (if you use any that don't know let me know. SDXC is the only format that can go above 32gigs
I think I'm going to go with Kingston MobileLite G3 Card reader i read this review legitreviews com/article/1977/1/ H
its pretty cheap and and I guess future proof.
Question about Keyboards
JohnRM said:
I am fairly sure the card reader itself has to support class10 (I suspect all modern ones do), and there is still the problem of the slowest part will still be the USB connection between card reader and the Nexus 7 - which is USB 2.0 (?) - although I'm not sure if class10 would saturate a USB 2 connection.
I would also try and get a mains powered one, not a USB powered one. I have 2 here and the USB powered one, with a wireless keyboard+mouse (Logitech MK520), + PS2 Joypad wired does cause a random reboot problem at times - possibly due to lack of USB power.
My mains powered hub is a cheap Xenta hub I got from Ebuyer and works a treat.
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How well do keyboards work on the Nexus? And do standard shortcuts like copy/paste work as their normal shortcut keys?
How well do keyboards work on the Nexus? And do standard shortcuts like copy/paste work as their normal shortcut keys?
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From my own testing, wired keyboards work best, just plug in and away you go. Wireless, I assume, will need Android to support the wireless adapter. I have the Logitech MK520, and the god-awful Microsoft Ergonomic 7000, and both worked fine with both the Keyboard and Mouse working well in Android 4.2. I also have a cheap USB mini keyboard I got from Amazon here,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Leather-Keyboard-Compatible-Blackberry-PlayBook/dp/B008QBFFR8/ref=pd_ybh_2
Awkward because of the keyboard's cable + OTG cable sticking out, but it worked surprisingly well.
Just for completeness, I also tested a Xbox 1 & 2 wired Joypad, a Xbox Arcade Joystick, and a PS2 Wired Dualshock2, all worked well, especially in emulators that had hardware joystick options.
In the week I intend testing a couple of wireless adapters to try and better my internet connection from sat in bed - The router is located at the far side of the house and only gives me 2 bars.
Hope that helps.
Edit - Bloody Capchas. How long does this go on for ?
Instead of editing my post I thought I would post this to hopefully help anyone who is thinking of getting a OTG cable + keyboard + USB Hub.
This may have been my device, Android 4.2, a combination of my hub + keyboard + non-rooted Nexus 7, who knows, but I can reproduce this fairly easy.
Lets take a similar situation to what happened to me. I popped the Nexus in the wallet, connected up the keyboard, took it round a mate's house and showed him a 7" tablet and how it works. We surfed the net using the keyboard for typing websites, searches, forum posting. etc... I then went home, device is switched off with everything still plugged in. I unplugged the keyboard, took the nexus out of the wallet/case and switched it on but it didn't come on and I honestly thought I had bricked the device, or the USB port overloaded or shorted. Googled the problem and it turned out a few had similar problems and the answer was to hold down the power switch for 10, 15, 20, 30 seconds until you see the Google logo, the Nexus will then boot up.
Now I can reproduce this just like the above. For example, sit in bed, type this reply out on the keyboard, switch off the device, go and make a coffee, come back and switch on the device with everything unplugged and the Nexus will not switch on. No idea why, but every time I have to hold down the power button for at least 15-20 seconds. If I just switch back on the Nexus with the keyboard still plugged in then it works fine.
Now, thanks to someone on this board, I have now done a few backups of my device including the SDCARD, so I might unlock it + root it then try it again with the Nexus wiped clean and see if it still doesn't come on.
Like I said, it could be some bizarre hardware + software combo, or just hardware including hub, but I thought I would post this incase someone here switches on their device and it too doesn't come on.
1. What format does the drive need to be to be read by the MOJO?
At the time of this writing: Hard drives need to be NTSC. They are mounted as READ ONLY, so you will not be able to save files. Bummer.
2. Same question, except for a 64GB MicroSDXC format...?
At the time of this writing: microSD must be formatted as FAT32 with 32K cluster size. They need to be set as a PRIMARY drive rather than LOGICAL.
1. NTFS or FAT32 usb 2.0 HDs work. I've tried USB 3.0 HDs and so far those haven't worked
2. I havn't tested a 64gig micro sd but most Android devices only recognize up to 32GB sd cards.
I've got a 64GB in my A700 and it works fine as FAT32. The CM ROMS have issue with it, however. Also, according to the MadCatz website: "For those of you who need more, there’s a microSD flash slot to accommodate SDXC cards up to 128GB!"
What format is your MicroSD?
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I've got a 64GB in my A700 and it works fine as FAT32. The CM ROMS have issue with it, however. Also, according to the MadCatz website: "For those of you who need more, there’s a microSD flash slot to accommodate SDXC cards up to 128GB!"
What format is your MicroSD?
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I'm using a 64gb micro sd, format FAT. Works great.
Try exFat. It's the "standard" format for SDXC type cards and unlike Fat32 you're not limited to files less than 4 gigs in size. It's the format i use on my Galaxy Note 10.1 (last year's model). It should come in exFat anyway.
Or the simplest solution would be to rip open the packaging, stick it in the MOJO and if it tells you it needs to be formatted format it. That way it's in whatever format the MOJO prefers and your pc/laptop in all likelihood will recognise the format.
Also I'm guessing you're just going to leave it in there most of the time. To avoid card readers and sync cables I normally use FTPServer on my phone and tablet and the filezilla client on the pc, and to transfer stuff to the network drive I use the android ftp client andftp (there are file explorers like ES Explorer which can handle samba connections and FTP connections but I find they're a bit slower).
Avoid NTFS on flash media. From what I've been told it uses too many read/writes which isbad for flash media due to their limited write cycles.
Yeah, I didn't even think about formatting until after I had loaded my card down with movies and music and games....exFat = Nope.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48943761&postcount=5
FAT32.
Time to backup and reformat.
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Yeah, I didn't even think about formatting until after I had loaded my card down with movies and music and games....exFat = Nope.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48943761&postcount=5
FAT32.
Time to backup and reformat.
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No ExFat support? Wow. Mad Catz put NO effort into the software of this device, did they. Just using the stock OS without bothering to add in bluetooth 4.0 support and just throwing in a dongle to compensate (various phone providers, i.e. HTC have a history of providing a better than stock bluetooth stack), no camera support, no exFat support (this just makes them cheapskates since they just needed to license it crom Microsoft like the phone makers that provide it on their phones and tablets).
I still have time to decide. I was planning on buying it on amazon, sending it to a friend and then having them bring it when they visited in order to avoid the overpriced shipping and import fees but I'm starting to think I'd be better off with a cheap quadcore A15 device with an SoC like the A80 from allwinner and a Moga controller. It would be cheaper, have better play store support and be more versatile from what I'm reading on here...
Considering how little effort they've put into the software I wouldn't be surprised if they never got around to the KitKat upgrade. Companies who put more effort into the OS often fail whdn it comes to promised upgrades. And if Mad Catz never upgrades the OS it means users are limited to just ONE USB port which seriously cuts dow on usability.
Wait, are you saying you can only use one usb port at a time because of the OS version?
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Wait, are you saying you can only use one usb port at a time because of the OS version?
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yes beacause if there's no update to kitkat the BT smart dongle is in one already and will have to stay there.
I think it will come out, they have said it would a few times now. so just a matter of when.
yip I tested mine, no exFat support... a bit of a shame
Buy an USB Hub.
You can use hdd with ntfs should be much better then exfat.
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Wait, are you saying you can only use one usb port at a time because of the OS version?
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At this time- the controller requires a dongle which takes up one of the usb slots.
You are left with the micro SD slot and the usb 3.0 slot.
When the Kitkat update arrives, you will be able to remove the dongle and have the usb 2.0 slot available.
The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update.
The point of mojo is to do everything via bluetooth and wifi.
That's the beauty of the machine.
Mojorising said:
At this time- the controller requires a dongle which takes up one of the usb slots.
You are left with the micro SD slot and the usb 3.0 slot.
When the Kitkat update arrives, you will be able to remove the dongle and have the usb 2.0 slot available.
The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update.
The point of mojo is to do everything via bluetooth and wifi.
That's the beauty of the machine.
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What do you mean by "The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update. "?
jjprichards said:
What do you mean by "The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update. "?
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Why use a usb to transfer data when you can pull data/stream data from your pc?
saenta said:
Buy an USB Hub.
You can use hdd with ntfs should be much better then exfat.
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Mojorising said:
At this time- the controller requires a dongle which takes up one of the usb slots.
You are left with the micro SD slot and the usb 3.0 slot.
When the Kitkat update arrives, you will be able to remove the dongle and have the usb 2.0 slot available.
The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update.
The point of mojo is to do everything via bluetooth and wifi.
That's the beauty of the machine.
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First of all, the point is that you're not getting the functionality promised. You are told that it's a micro-console with TWO usb ports and you can either give up the controller, or give up a usb port. Secondly a usb hub can be an okay solution but you then have to worry about getting a normal one or a powered one and how much it will affect throughput splitting it up depending on what devices you have attached. And as is others here have reported problems in using both USB drives simultaneously (and that some drives work better in one than the other).
Yes, streaming is good, you can actually use it right now if you´re just talking about transferring files, but if you're told you'll get two USB ports you should GET two functional and available usb ports.
KitKat upgrade. They've mentioned it, but don't think there's actually an official announcement. Plus they could have had that functionality there since the beginning. Smartphone and tablet makers add/take away functionality from Android and its Kernel. Heck, people HERE do it all the time. So why can't Mad Catz. And how long exactly do people have to wait for the upgrade? As the saying goes, buy a device for what it can do today, not what it can do tomorrow. Manufacturers often don't come through on promised upgrades.
Also to say that you/they support SDXC without a disclaimer saying that you can't use exFat is fraudulent as exFat is STANDARD on SDXC. If they made all this clear from the beginning it wouldn't be so bad but they don't and as such mislead their (potential) clients. Who cares about friendly and speedy support if they can't actually solve the issues present?
I would use the USB to hold a thumb drive full of data like the ISOs I've ripped from my GameCube and PSX for emulation. (Trying to get my wife to give up the Wii to our son when the Android port of Dolphin reaches maturity).
Formatted my card as FAT32, loaded it down, NO LUCK.
Tried the card in two computers and it shows up as FAT32 with all files intact. I'm on my A700 right now, popped it in, and it is working just fine.
There really needs to be a reboot option on the MOJO...Yes, I rebooted..no luck. Causes FC from settings when I try to see my storage.
Thoughts?
ExtremeRyno said:
Formatted my card as FAT32, loaded it down, NO LUCK.
Tried the card in two computers and it shows up as FAT32 with all files intact. I'm on my A700 right now, popped it in, and it is working just fine.
There really needs to be a reboot option on the MOJO...Yes, I rebooted..no luck. Causes FC from settings when I try to see my storage.
Thoughts?
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Are getting any message when you stick it in?
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Are getting any message when you stick it in?
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When you put the USB in, do you see it say, preparing USB in the top left?
You then have to go to your mojo settings, storage, and 'mount USB'.
It will. Then show up.
To unmount, go to settings, storage, unmount.
Working now?
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Nothing.
When it was formatted as exFAT, I could at least get to the storage options...just wouldn't mount.
I'm trying an extHD to connect.
First try 1 partition 1TB NTFS - recognized and mounted without problems on USB 3.0 port. (but NTFS don't work on my LG G2)
2nd try 4 partitions 1,2,3,4, extFat 256GB recognized, but can't mount. (but works fine on LG G2)
3rd try 4 partitions 1 NTFS, 2,3 extFat and 4 NTFS - don't work
4rd try 1 partition 1TB extFat - can't mount.
So, I let this thing NTFS formatted now. :silly:
If the M.O.J.O could be rooted, we could use tools to mount ALL formats and ALL partitions.
Solution for my rooted LG G2 was simple. " Paragon NTFS & HFS+ " is a free tool in Play Store.
NTFS is r/w now on my smartphone and r/o on the Mojo.
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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Can anyone help with some of these questions? I canceled the 16gb version and opted for the pro. I also canceled the sandisk micro sd. Can I use my Samsung ssd in usb 3.0 enclosure as adoptable storage? Would I benefit any from it as far as load times on games or should I just install to internal 500gb drive? What are the advantages of a custom rom over rooted stock rom. With stock rooted rom can I install all the same apps from Google play or will I have more options with a custom rom? Also I see custom roms of full android 6.0 without nvidia skin overlay. Are there any real benefits this and will I lose any functionality? Any help is appreciated, responses please! I get my shield Tuesday.
Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb
AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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techjunky90 said:
Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb
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Yeah ended up swapping for 16gb again and gonna use my Samsung ssd adopted. Found the answers to most questions just trying to decide rather to flash full android m or just root factory firmware.
Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd
AndroiderM said:
Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd
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I think the drive is a Hybrid. Pretty good chance that NVIDIA just used a USB 3.0 to SATA chip to service that 500gb drive. So I see no reason why you couldn't have just done it yourself.
How do you know the device did not come with the remote already? I purchased the 16gb and decided I did not want the remote so I didn't buy it, yet surprisingly it was in the retail box anyway.
As far as I know it's just the shield and the controller in the box according to the Amazon description and pictures. They do sell a bundle that has the remote included but I'm pretty confident mine has no remote. You cannot add, change, or remove storage internally on the shield nvidia made sure of that.
Weather to Pro or not to Pro, you can find some more opinions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/help/buying-16gb-128gb-sdcard-500gb-t3399659
It all comes down to what you want to use the Shield for. If your installed games are not going to exceed those 16GB of flash (which of course will be less) I see no reason to get the Pro. Another valid point is the price difference: for the 100€ difference, I could get a 2-4 TB HDD.
On another note, I think you can find more answers around here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/159/shield-android-tv/
Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.
SkOrPn said:
Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.
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Gotcha I plan on it, I have a 256gb ssd in enclosure I want to use as adopted storage and a 4tb wd external for media storage
Personally speaking, for my family anyway I just add drives to the home server, or retire them for bigger ones. Building a Windows home server 5 years ago was the best thing I ever did for media consumption. Sadly I only have 3 SATA ports so I am limited to the amount of drives I can add
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One thing I forgot to mention: adding USB devices through a USB port will limit the speed and latency at which they are accessed.
OK how would you guys setup this is what I now have ordered and has already shipped so no going back. Idc if I use adoptable storage or not unless it benefits me. My usage will be downloading large torrent files and copying them to 4tb drive using shield as player, lots of large file gaming, kodi, Internet browsing and that's about it. Maybe hangouts
What I ordered:
Shield pro 500gb
Remote
Controllers
Bluetooth keyboard
Whatever I already have:
Samsung 256gb ssd
4tb wd my book
500gb hdd out of ps4
I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.
Mr Creosote said:
I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.
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Edit: I think I've got it figured out just gonna root stock rom and sideload whatever I can't get directly through playstore.