I was rooting all my phones very soon after unboxing. I rooted S5 after 1 hour, S6 after 12 days (I was waiting until root is released). But now I'm going to not root my S7. Why?
Here are my reasons for root and answers why it isn't required root more:
Annoying sound when the phone starts.
With root you can delete the file.
Now is there no sound.
Annoying sounds when you start charging.
With root you can delete the file.
Now you can disable the sounds in settings.
Shutter sound in camera.
With root you cound modify custom.xml and new checkbox appeared in the application.
You can mute system sounds and the camera is quiet. Or you can do it by Tasker.
Adaway etc.
With root you can modify hosts file.
Now you can use Adblock for Internet application. If you need block ads also in applications, you can use this tool (paied): Adguard
Changing appearance
With root you can use e.g. circle battery icon etc.
I don't know full working solution without root. But it is very weak reason for losing warranty for me.
Network speed in notification bar
With root you cound use xposed module.
Without root you can use an application. But yes, the appearance is not soo impressive. Again, it isn't reason for loss of warranty
Blocking bloatware
With root you can use e.g. Titanium backup and freeze or uninstall any application.
Without root you can use Package Disabler Pro
Backup and restore applications and their settings
With root you can use TB
Without root seems Helium like very good solution.
High volume warning
With root you can disable it in xposed or flash custom ROM
I've found this application which brings a workaround: Hearing Saver It is not perfect but it works. You can also do it in Tasker. Check when an earphone is connected and then change media volume to maximum and immediately after that change it back. It works for me.
I agree that without root is the initial setting more laborious but KNOX 0 is good bonus for me.
Do you have any other reasons for root? With or without solution?
libb said:
Adaway etc.
With root you can modify hosts file.
Now you can use Adblock for Internet application. If you need block ads also in applications, you can use this tool (paied): Adguard
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Tried this, it didn't block ads in apps, only in the browser.
Blocking bloatware
With root you can use e.g. Titanium backup and freeze or uninstall any application.
Without root you can use Package Disabler Pro
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Its a nice alternative, but deleting those applications is more satisfying
Backup and restore applications and their settings
With root you can use TB
Without root seems Helium like very good solution.
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I haven't used the app before, but are you sure you can save data with the app or just the app?
Just tried it, it does restore data but it can't restore mms, only sms.
You can also use mybackup to backup and restore sms/mms without root https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup&hl=en
But lets not forget about xposed + gravity box + any other useful modules, this is the biggest reason to root the phone. But the reasons you gave are definitely good alternatives for some people.
Multi window....
I had an awesome setup on my note 3. I can have my google maps navigation running and a split window with pocketcast or spotify on the bottom. That's how I would drive everywhere and it worked amazing for me.I coudl even pop over my text messages to the bottom if I was at a stop light.
Now, however, since pocketcast is not a multi-window supported app, I can no longer do this. Lame.
I want root so I can put xposed framework which lets me add any app I want into multiwindow mode.. Sigh
Greenify and xposed are consecutively a reason for me to root. Lucky patcher my top priority.
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Greenify and xposed are consecutively a reason for me to root. Lucky patcher my top priority.
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Xposed is gonna take time, they only recently fixed the samsung issue in 5.0 I believe, I do not use neither Greenify nor Lucky Patcher so I cant comment on them. [Tried lucky patcher, couldn't get through with it and greenify doesn't feel anything changed so i stopped using it]
I used stock roms with root, just to record my screen/audio. Do you know of a great free or paid, non-root screen recording app? Then I'll have no need to root as well
I kinda hope I will be able to use this phone without root at least for 6 months .... I held on with the GS1 over 2 months ... since then.... root was the first thing I did .... so hope I will find ways or workarounds not to root s7 immediatelly
peachpuff said:
Tried this, it didn't block ads in apps, only in the browser.
Its a nice alternative, but deleting those applications is more satisfying
I haven't used the app before, but are you sure you can save data with the app or just the app?
Just tried it, it does restore data but it can't restore mms, only sms.
You can also use mybackup to backup and restore sms/mms without root https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup&hl=en
But lets not forget about xposed + gravity box + any other useful modules, this is the biggest reason to root the phone. But the reasons you gave are definitely good alternatives for some people.
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About ads, you have to wait a while until cache clears probably. I can confirm that it is working on wi-fi and also on 4G
Helium really restores also data.
About xposed etc (Gravity box isn't working on Samsung, or does?) the changes are too little for me.
HTCMDA said:
I used stock roms with root, just to record my screen/audio. Do you know of a great free or paid, non-root screen recording app? Then I'll have no need to root as well
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In games it should be albe to do in Game Tools. And I'm sure some applications are but I've never needed it.
battler624 said:
Xposed is gonna take time, they only recently fixed the samsung issue in 5.0 I believe, I do not use neither Greenify nor Lucky Patcher so I cant comment on them. [Tried lucky patcher, couldn't get through with it and greenify doesn't feel anything changed so i stopped using it]
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I don't know Lucky Patcher.
But I believe that there isn't any reason for using Greenify on MM.
I use root to delete unused system apps and free about 500-800mb of storage. I used xposed but can wait for it to be updated. I can not live without Adaway on my phone. If i have to i will just buy a rasberri pi and create a dns adblocker
The top reason for me is AFWall+ (firewall). I don't want apps gathering my data and sending it to HQ. Is there a non root alternative for this?
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The top reason for me is AFWall+ (firewall). I don't want apps gathering my data and sending it to HQ. Is there a non root alternative for this?
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Adguard has some firewall but I didn't investigated yet deeply. There is 7 days trial so you can try it.
Leeum said:
I use root to delete unused system apps and free about 500-800mb of storage.
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For what? The system partition is a fixed size, and that space cannot be re-allocated to any other partition or accessed by the user. Deleting unused system apps frees up space you can't do anything with, so there literally is no more benefit than just disabling the apps.
Root dont make ya lose the hardware Warranty but the software....
BUT if ya know how to root your sphone, ya know how to fix software problems...
I always root all my devices and never lost my warranty when I needed to repair screen, usb charger, and any other hardware problems...
We can fix the other ones
root is available now as TWRP was released recently
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/recovery-official-twrp-herolte-t3333770
you just need to flash the latest SuperSU file
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For what? The system partition is a fixed size, and that space cannot be re-allocated to any other partition or accessed by the user. Deleting unused system apps frees up space you can't do anything with, so there literally is no more benefit than just disabling the apps.
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Ahh i see but then it still removes the possibility of any of the uninstalled apps of running to hopefully improve battery life and more free ram
Leeum said:
Ahh i see but then it still removes the possibility of any of the uninstalled apps of running to hopefully improve battery life and more free ram
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Disabled apps don't run, don't use any battery, and don't consume any RAM. Seriously, there is absolutely zero benefit to deleting them, but do whatever you want.
I need root for
Adaway
Lower the dpi (its way too high)
Anything else is just a nice bonus
kenjiwing said:
I need root for
Adaway
Lower the dpi (its way too high)
Anything else is just a nice bonus
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Both is possible without root
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Hi!
How do I permanently block or remove all the Ads in the apps without rooting my Galaxy S4?
Buy the paid-version of the app in question.
Turn off Internet connection.
I do not believe that is possible
there is an approach of building a custom host file that redirects adds into 127.0.0.1 but you need root for that
Other options I do not know, and most probably it's best to just buy the apps you want
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I do not believe that is possible
there is an approach of building a custom host file that redirects adds into 127.0.0.1 but you need root for that
Other options I do not know, and most probably it's best to just buy the apps you want
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yeh but there are some apps that you cannot buy. it that way.
ads in notifications and new link in the home page.
the ads in notification can be disabled,
is there a way to stop creating new advertistin icon on the "desktop"?
thanks
Even if you are rooted, it wont work now. Adaway used to work very well but as soon as it pulled out from playstore, it doesn't work for me. It doesn't block ad.
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Even if you are rooted, it wont work now. Adaway used to work very well but as soon as it pulled out from playstore, it doesn't work for me. It doesn't block ad.
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It should still work actually, at least it does for me.
It however, does not work on apps that have the adds compiled in, or cached down.
For example, Astro File manager, without adaway, it display awful adds. With adaway it only displays adds for itself, because it already knows them.
Can anyone provide a good debloat list for the U model ver 27?
Hey I know this is an old post, but if you're still in need I just made a post that might help you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/debloat-list-a2017u-t3536687
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I'm working on trying to make a custom ROM and I noticed that there is no complete debloat list for the Axon 7 that I could find. Honestly the bloat on this device really isn't that bad, most of the preloaded apps I actually use. Although I am learning about making custom ROMs and debloating is part of that learning, and I figure someone may find this useful. Now this is by now means a complete or thoroughly tested list. It will be it just isn't yet, so in the meantime feel free to make any comments that may help.
Without further adue, the list:
Browser
Themes
Touchpal (w/ Chat Pack)
Video Player
Weshare
Google Apps
Chrome
Cloud Print
Docs
Gmail
Hangouts
Maps
Play Music
Talkback
YouTube
ZTE Apps
Compass
Email
Gallery
Recorder
Toolbox
Weather
Of course the google framework should be removable and I did remove it but that seems like something that will need testing. Furthermore I know it is possible to remove Dolby Atmos, but I don't know how yet.
Thanks to SuperR for a great Kitchen to work in, and thanks to lokissmile who's tennitive list on his HelsAx7.SubMix helped me start this list ( I also copied that first thank you from him too).
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Thank you so much for putting this list together! It has been really helpful.
Kinanizer said:
Hey I know this is an old post, but if you're still in need I just made a post that might help you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/debloat-list-a2017u-t3536687
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that's a very good list, thanks
Hola
What on phone tool do you folks use to forcibly remove these system apps? I am a keen user of Titanium Backup, but I find that TiBu doesn't always completely remove these unwanted apps. I understand that if someone creates a TWRP flashable zip with the mentioned unwanted apps, then this is another working way, but seems rather long winded is it not?
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Hola
What on phone tool do you folks use to forcibly remove these system apps? I am a keen user of Titanium Backup, but I find that TiBu doesn't always completely remove these unwanted apps. I understand that if someone creates a TWRP flashable zip with the mentioned unwanted apps, then this is another working way, but seems rather long winded is it not?
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you'll root to remove all those apps from the phone and you can use link2sd to uninstall all of them
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you'll root to remove all those apps from the phone and you can use link2sd to uninstall all of them
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If you go this route, consider "Freezing" the apps for a few days before actually uninstalling them to insure there is not a dependency that is not obvious. Also keep a previous level nandroid backup.
Even that is not always foolproof tho. After intially replacing the Stock ZTE Browser with the smaller Android Browser I found it could not create bookmarks. Reinstalled the ZTE WeimiBrowser OK. All works with Android Browser Frozen just fine, but when I uninstalling it I get a strange SIM issue where the phone bounces between SIM 1 & 2 (only #1 is installed). So I leave it Frozen. Irritating, but plenty of storage.
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If you go this route, consider "Freezing" the apps for a few days before actually uninstalling them to insure there is not a dependency that is not obvious. Also keep a previous level nandroid backup.
Even that is not always foolproof tho. After intially replacing the Stock ZTE Browser with the smaller Android Browser I found it could not create bookmarks. Reinstalled the ZTE WeimiBrowser OK. All works with Android Browser Frozen just fine, but when I uninstalling it I get a strange SIM issue where the phone bounces between SIM 1 & 2 (only #1 is installed). So I leave it Frozen. Irritating, but plenty of storage.
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thank you for the tip and i really haven't had any problems when i delete the browser, but if i do encounter any issues i know what to do :good:
After playing around with AR for all trying to get AR+ on Pokemon go and eventually giving up I'm curious on what this app is on my phone? Couldn't find a answer from a quick Google so I guess here is the next best thing.
Kinda of scared to give it root permissions as it's name doesn't sound familiar to any app I have installed. Any advice?
It's a system app that is present on many Android devices, including our Axon 7. You will find it in pretty much any ROM you flash, stock or custom. I don't know what it is or what it does, but it's not dangerous, don't mess with it. It shouldn't be asking for root permissions, that does sound a bit fishy. You may have recently installed an app that is masquerading under this name and now wants root access. Don't grant it. I would look more deeply into what you've installed to see if any of it might be malicious.
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After playing around with AR for all trying to get AR+ on Pokemon go and eventually giving up I'm curious on what this app is on my phone? Couldn't find a answer from a quick Google so I guess here is the next best thing.
Kinda of scared to give it root permissions as it's name doesn't sound familiar to any app I have installed. Any advice?
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I agree with the user above. Its weird that it even has the possibility to be granted root permission. If its a system process, it should already have all the necessary permissions it needs.
Oh btw. I think for AR+ in pogo you need ARCore by google. Our device is not officially supported yet. But since there is cam2 api in oreo, that might change in the future and google could very well add it to the list of supported devices.
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After playing around with AR for all trying to get AR+ on Pokemon go and eventually giving up I'm curious on what this app is on my phone? Couldn't find a answer from a quick Google so I guess here is the next best thing.
Kinda of scared to give it root permissions as it's name doesn't sound familiar to any app I have installed. Any advice?
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look. Download MagiskHide props config module, change the fingerprint to Pixel 2 XL, then download ARCore from apkmirror. It'll work, I just don't know if it works with pokemon go.
I used Measure and Lens (don't know if lens needs it tho)
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look. Download MagiskHide props config module, change the fingerprint to Pixel 2 XL, then download ARCore from apkmirror. It'll work, I just don't know if it works with pokemon go.
I used Measure and Lens (don't know if lens needs it tho)
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Thanks man, at first safety net was being hit but a quick reboot later and now everything is working fine. I'm going to do more research into what this is. As I'm sure I haven't downloaded any suspicious apps.
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Thanks man, at first safety net was being hit but a quick reboot later and now everything is working fine. I'm going to do more research into what this is. As I'm sure I haven't downloaded any suspicious apps.
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Edit: Never mind, I thought you were talking about the stuff i suggested lmao
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Edit: Never mind, I thought you were talking about the stuff i suggested lmao
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Ok so after some testing it seems like AR Core 1.5 works but is unstable asf, and ARcore 1.4(latest) does not work as the app must be using 1.5 only, it comes up with the "This device is not supported" but seeing that safety is working fine, i assume its looking at the ARCore and seeing its not running on a "supported device" although it does work on 1.5 (sometimes, if im not taken straight to "Not Supported"). Not too sure about this magisk module tho as some reboots come up with a negative safety net
Found on internets:
"The CTS (Compatibility Test Suite) shim is a package that resides on a device's /system partition in order to verify certain upgrade scenarios. This is intended to facilitate the compatibility test that vendors run to ensure their hardware will be compatible with the Android OS. "
@evilKabab: if what you're saying is true, then I'm considering deleting this app from my phone. I generally don't use GApps, and don't care about SafetyNet. Thanks for the info.
its a shimmy hackers tool.
used to encrouch in space.
my ex and his circle are remotely damaging all aspects of my life personal and professional family and financial.
they have pop ups stating i cant use messages internet apps socialmedia or ANY thing that uses data or space urging me to delete files or apps as soon as i do, it encrouches and takes up that space.
ive got an s10 started with 13 pages of apps 1500 svreenshots and 900 photos and crap tons of vids
after a couple months of this i am left with 3 pages of apps (mostly factory apps) and no space for photos
and it still urges me to delete.
this is because i have evidence of too much on my phone
com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim | How to set up devices for CTS
What is com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim? How to set up the environment, desktop and android device for CTS? Is com.android.cts.ctsshim a Virus?
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hackedbymyexboyfriend said:
its a shimmy hackers tool.
used to encrouch in space.
my ex and his circle are remotely damaging all aspects of my life personal and professional family and financial.
they have pop ups stating i cant use messages internet apps socialmedia or ANY thing that uses data or space urging me to delete files or apps as soon as i do, it encrouches and takes up that space.
ive got an s10 started with 13 pages of apps 1500 svreenshots and 900 photos and crap tons of vids
after a couple months of this i am left with 3 pages of apps (mostly factory apps) and no space for photos
and it still urges me to delete.
this is because i have evidence of too much on my phone
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Same here I have 1000s of files and screen shots an pencil an paper notes
Hey guys,
my OP6T has had some issues lately, like GCAM not working, battery life never exceeding 4hrs of SoT and random lag, so I wanted to reflash stock and start fresh.
My problem is, I have several banking apps on my phone which all require activation codes. They would all require me to call my bank and request a new activation code which I'd rather not do.
Now I have 2 questions.
1. Is there any way I could back these apps up, without needing to reactivate them?
2. Is a factory reset enough to fix my issues or should I reflash stock?
3. Does root only interfere with GPAY or all banking apps? I was thinking about rooting but saw some people are having trouble, even when using Magisk Hide.
P.s. Bootloader is locked, no root.
Thank you!
1. Yes, if your phone is rooted you can use Titanium Backup. The app allows you to make backups of apps together with their entire data so once reinstalled they don't really know they've been transferred at all. If you don't have root, there's a few possibilities but they are all hit or miss, try googling if you want to try. IMO rooting and using titanium backup is the best alternative. However I can't guarantee that the banking apps won't just check the phone they're running ond and notice that it's changed and say you need a new code regardless, that might still happen.
2. If you perform a factory reset you might as well re-install the system while you're at it. Won't make much of a difference then anymore, unless the issues you're facing stem from corrupted system files, which I doubt seeing as you aren't rooted. However I think that the issues might come from some apps you have installed or a certain way you set up your phone and if you don't find out what's causing that you're just going to face the same problems a few weeks after setting up your phone from new.
3. If you are rooted with Magisk, you won't notice much, if any, interferences at all (at least I haven't). Magisk does a really good job at hiding the root access from apps that are not supposed to notice it like banking apps, Pokemon Go etc. Still, it's not perfect and your banking app xyz might still not work on a rooted phone even when using Magisk.
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1. Yes, if your phone is rooted you can use Titanium Backup. The app allows you to make backups of apps together with their entire data so once reinstalled they don't really know they've been transferred at all. If you don't have root, there's a few possibilities but they are all hit or miss, try googling if you want to try. IMO rooting and using titanium backup is the best alternative. However I can't guarantee that the banking apps won't just check the phone they're running ond and notice that it's changed and say you need a new code regardless, that might still happen.
2. If you perform a factory reset you might as well re-install the system while you're at it. Won't make much of a difference then anymore, unless the issues you're facing stem from corrupted system files, which I doubt seeing as you aren't rooted. However I think that the issues might come from some apps you have installed or a certain way you set up your phone and if you don't find out what's causing that you're just going to face the same problems a few weeks after setting up your phone from new.
3. If you are rooted with Magisk, you won't notice much, if any, interferences at all (at least I haven't). Magisk does a really good job at hiding the root access from apps that are not supposed to notice it like banking apps, Pokemon Go etc. Still, it's not perfect and your banking app xyz might still not work on a rooted phone even when using Magisk.
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Thanks for the really great answer.
Do you have any recommendations for free back up apps? There are dozens but they don't really make it clear whether they provide a full back-up of the app or just a basic one.
I'll re-install the system I think, the bugs I'm experiencing are really odd and I personally couldn't think of anything what could be causing them. I keep my phone extremely light weight so I really only have gapps, sports, some social media and thats about it, plus KLWP.
Hm, I might not root after all, I think system stability and banking etc, is probably more important than one or two magisk modules.
Once again, really appreciate the help!
Cheesus182 said:
Thanks for the really great answer.
Do you have any recommendations for free back up apps? There are dozens but they don't really make it clear whether they provide a full back-up of the app or just a basic one.
I'll re-install the system I think, the bugs I'm experiencing are really odd and I personally couldn't think of anything what could be causing them. I keep my phone extremely light weight so I really only have gapps, sports, some social media and thats about it, plus KLWP.
Hm, I might not root after all, I think system stability and banking etc, is probably more important than one or two magisk modules.
Once again, really appreciate the help!
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I'm sorry but I can't really help you with root-free backup solutions. Apart from Titanium Backup the only thing I ever used was "Helium Backup", however that was already years ago and I only had limited success back then. Maybe it works better now, I don't know. I'd recommend to Google, I'm sure there's a few new alternatives out there by now.
Yeah root really isn't as "mandatory" by now as it used to be in earlier Android revisions. I'm sure you can get along without it. I basically only need it for system-wide adblock nowadays, also for app backups, tweaking apps and uninstalling system applications but I havent really done that in a while either
Hi All
Soon to be retiring my trusted rooted Samsung S7 Edge I have had for nearly 30 months for a new S20.
I have been rooting my androids for over 10 years now but am thinking that when it comes to the S20 I no longer wish to root. The reason is the security of the device is pretty high on my agenda and unfortuntely I dont get the time nowadays to keep my phone up to date via the unconventional means.
I have use few rooted apps over the years such as Titanium backup and few apps within Magisk such as the Youtube Vanced (no ADS) and also viper4android.
Before I make this decision can anyone convince me that rooting is still the way to go and I can do it without taking up too much of my time? I can already see there is some rooted builds already available. Is it even more dificult to perform the root process with the newer phones? I assume Knox won't work and other similar apps which rely on a unrooted phone or are there ways around this?
Any advice on this would be appreciated.
Thanks
On Samsung devices rooting allows you to debloat the phone a lot, which on my Galaxy S8 improved performances and battery peformances A LOT (it was a fast as the bloated S9+ of my parents on daily usage)
Also it allows you to install apps such as Viper4Android as you said, also it allows me to backup my WHOLE phone so that if any **** happens I can just restore everything.
The update process is fairly easy when it works, just download the updated zip and flash it via TWRP, however except some issues which would require you to reinstall, everything. sometimes with custom roms.
On my side as soon as a good custom rom is here, I will root it and go to a custom rom.
Also the rooting process doesn't take too much time, I'd say 1 hour if you encounter no problem, and yes knox features won't work tho I don't use any of them so.
Personally, rooting isn't near as great as it use to be. Adblock can be done via VPN or through private DNS. Music sounds just as good without Viper. Performance and battery life are incredible. You can uninstall anything via adb. Only thing I wish we could do without root is backup everything as well as titanium does.
Kind of similar situation here... I also used s7, rooted and flashed every device since android 2.1, and guess what - my s20 is still in factory condition
I'm not sure how long it will last, but for now I'm managing to find replacement for most things I got used to, without root. If i got bored some day, I might root it, but for now I'm enjoying it as it is :angel:
Same here. I'm enjoying my root free s20+
Haven't rooted since note 2.. Even on my s7 and note 8.. Except had to root my note 8 when samsung decided to lock usage of dual sim with sdcard. Before that I modded my simcard (remove the simcard from the plastic card, file off few mm off my sdcard and stick the simcard chip on the microsd card) on s7 and note 8 that allows me to have dual sim.
When samsung updated my note 8 to one ui, they locked dual simcard function when they detect the sdcard. So had to root my note 8.
Now that the s20 allows dual sim (1 sim and 1 esim) and sdcard, there really isn't a reason to root the phone anymore, well for me that is..
Having rooted phones with magisk is just horrible. Had to reset the phone every time there is an update (prerooted custom rom, dr ketans rom) and sometimes magisk just doesn't hide root properly. It fails sometimes then i have to update magisk..
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I'm wondering the same, and did root my S20+. It was painful and it half work: Google Pay and Netflix no longer work. And I did use Magisk Hide to no avail. Now when I sell it it Google Pay might work, but Samsung Pay will not (didn't verify).
Nowadays I found a way to do a lot of things without root. With a little PC app I unlock a lot of features and it makes root far less mandatory. So I mainly root to test my apps. For my daily device I no longer intend to root it.
Dont take this the wrong way but i am really curious. What are the pros for rooting phones, especially $1000+ phones, in 2020?
I dont remember the last phone i rooted. I wanna say my Nexus 5 but really cant recall.
Could you please share which pc app you are using, I'd like to try it.
Thanks
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I'm wondering the same, and did root my S20+. It was painful and it half work: Google Pay and Netflix no longer work. And I did use Magisk Hide to no avail. Now when I sell it it Google Pay might work, but Samsung Pay will not (didn't verify).
Nowadays I found a way to do a lot of things without root. With a little PC app I unlock a lot of features and it makes root far less mandatory. So I mainly root to test my apps. For my daily device I no longer intend to root it.
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Could you please share which pc app you are using, I'd like to try it.
Thanks
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It's this app: https://3c71.com/3cc
You'll need to use one of my apps which is able to take advantage of it transparently. It's pretty recent and still work in progress. I have to check every features one by one to know which one works with this method. Recently added disabling app (and their individual components) and force-stop. Just that is pretty awesome IMO . Allows debloating a device painlessly.
It will also enable app data backup in the future. Limited to apps which have authorized data backup by Google framework.
I'm so excited since I discovered all the things that could be done that way.
Im downloading now, when you say use one of your apps, what do you mean app on phone?
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It's this app: https://3c71.com/3cc
You'll need to use one of my apps which is able to take advantage of it transparently. It's pretty recent and still work in progress. I have to check every features one by one to know which one works with this method. Recently added disabling app (and their individual components) and force-stop. Just that is pretty awesome IMO . Allows debloating a device painlessly.
It will also enable app data backup in the future. Limited to apps which have authorized data backup by Google framework.
I'm so excited since I discovered all the things that could be done that way.
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crows said:
Im downloading now, when you say use one of your apps, what do you mean app on phone?
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Yes, an app on phone. You'll get links for them and more details when you start the companion app. For now only toolbox allows disabling (called freezing) apps, but there's an app coming soon for app management alone that will have that.
Does it allow to edit root files such as CSC files?
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Yes, an app on phone. You'll get links for them and more details when you start the companion app. For now only toolbox allows disabling (called freezing) apps, but there's an app coming soon for app management alone that will have that.
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crows said:
Does it allow to edit root files such as CSC files?
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It doesn't give root access, but only gives access to "dev" features that you can do with ADB.
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On Samsung devices rooting allows you to debloat the phone a lot, which on my Galaxy S8 improved performances and battery peformances A LOT (it was a fast as the bloated S9+ of my parents on daily usage)
Also it allows you to install apps such as Viper4Android as you said, also it allows me to backup my WHOLE phone so that if any **** happens I can just restore everything.
The update process is fairly easy when it works, just download the updated zip and flash it via TWRP, however except some issues which would require you to reinstall, everything. sometimes with custom roms.
On my side as soon as a good custom rom is here, I will root it and go to a custom rom.
Also the rooting process doesn't take too much time, I'd say 1 hour if you encounter no problem, and yes knox features won't work tho I don't use any of them so.
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You can debloat using ADB....
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I'm wondering the same, and did root my S20+. It was painful and it half work: Google Pay and Netflix no longer work. And I did use Magisk Hide to no avail. Now when I sell it it Google Pay might work, but Samsung Pay will not (didn't verify).
Nowadays I found a way to do a lot of things without root. With a little PC app I unlock a lot of features and it makes root far less mandatory. So I mainly root to test my apps. For my daily device I no longer intend to root it.
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Download magisk hide prop to fix that google pay issue. Now hide all google pay in magisk. I have a rooted s20+ exynos with working gpay.
ranjb said:
Hi All
Soon to be retiring my trusted rooted Samsung S7 Edge I have had for nearly 30 months for a new S20.
I have been rooting my androids for over 10 years now but am thinking that when it comes to the S20 I no longer wish to root. The reason is the security of the device is pretty high on my agenda and unfortuntely I dont get the time nowadays to keep my phone up to date via the unconventional means.
I have use few rooted apps over the years such as Titanium backup and few apps within Magisk such as the Youtube Vanced (no ADS) and also viper4android.
Before I make this decision can anyone convince me that rooting is still payg way to go and I can do it without taking up too much of my time? I can already see there is some rooted builds already available. Is it even more dificult to perform the root process with the newer phones? I assume Knox won't work and other similar apps which rely on a unrooted phone or are there ways around this?
Any advice on this would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Exactly the same situation ; Now it's possible to delete & / or disable so many apps i don't feel the need to root.
You don't need to be rooted to use YouTube Vanced , ive installed it already! But.... Viper4Android is a huge benefit for an audiophile (I had the LG G8 ThinQ , can't root it , sent it back , A Quad DAC with V4A ??)
Knox & warranty for me are the hindrances , apparently depending on your nation warranties must be adhered to by manufacturers if hardware fails even if you manipulate the software.
Titanium backup has carried me since my Sony Xperia z3 plus , i have old versions of apps like SwiftKey before Microsoft purchased it.
I'll probably root in a few months when things are more stable , i don't use Samsung pay or secure folders so.... Literally down to warranty reasons as this s20+ 5G (I don't need 5g , either 4G is so fast) is expensive, never thought I'd get a phone like this (suppose its a computer really)
An exposed module called LTE Only (There's other variants) is also useful as this phone sometimes opts for 5bars of h+ over 3 bars of 4g , so annoying that LTE only isn't standard given you can call over VoLTE & still receive texts
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Djapatos said:
Dont take this the wrong way but i am really curious. What are the pros for rooting phones, especially $1000+ phones, in 2020?
I dont remember the last phone i rooted. I wanna say my Nexus 5 but really cant recall.
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Depends what you like or don't like.
I hate the Notion that the microphone gets activated by apps whenever the algorithm is triggered , rooted phoned allow the easy manipulation of app permissions - not that I've anything to hide it's just creepy , I don't use alexa or Google (whatever it's called) or bixby voice.
Essentially rooting your phone allows absolute manipulation of the system.
My S8 is rooted & has now employed a smashed screen , I thoroughly enjoy rooting but its actually to long winded for me now.
I don't think I've ever rooted & installed a rom once & left it , there's always wiping , reflashing , updating TWRP , updating roms , returning to stock to receive official firmware updates then reflashing updated rom
Ugghh as I write I think I've convinced myself. Rooting maybe dead for me. Being an audiophile / music maker I'd now only root an LG V or G phone as V4A & the incredible quad DAC is a heavenly combination for my ears
I stopped rooting years ago. It's just not worth it for most users.
Changed my mind , ended up rooting the phone (The adverts tipped me over the edge - seriously annoying).
debloated alot , disabled even more & can backup using titanium backup if i ever need to restart etc (quicker than / & i don't use cloud transfer).
i had to reflash after disabling too much & realised my data wasn't lost when flashing HOME_CSC rather than CSC which deletes everything (i know I'm preaching to the choir) which made me realise that updating this rooted s20+ is actually very easy.
jojos38 said:
On Samsung devices rooting allows you to debloat the phone a lot, which on my Galaxy S8 improved performances and battery peformances A LOT (it was a fast as the bloated S9+ of my parents on daily usage)
Also it allows you to install apps such as Viper4Android as you said, also it allows me to backup my WHOLE phone so that if any **** happens I can just restore everything.
The update process is fairly easy when it works, just download the updated zip and flash it via TWRP, however except some issues which would require you to reinstall, everything. sometimes with custom roms.
On my side as soon as a good custom rom is here, I will root it and go to a custom rom.
Also the rooting process doesn't take too much time, I'd say 1 hour if you encounter no problem, and yes knox features won't work tho I don't use any of them so.
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You don't need root to debloat a phone. Just ADB. I removed nearly everything Samsung soon as I got the phone.