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Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
wd4oay said:
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?
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deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.
deeselcyde said:
What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.
Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.
deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.
Not sure if this is in the right place. I apologize if its not and please move it accordingly.
For the S3 there was a running thread where some developer would take every AT&T update, inject root into it and make it available for flashing via custom recovery. I know there is a subset of members here who are fine with TW. And now with the work Nottach put into his xposed module we get all the cool theming without losing TW features. We can also freeze or remove stock stuff as we see fit since all future updates would be flashed this way. This allows that subset of folks to freeze the stock updates and still be on the latest and greatest instead of updating and then rooting again. Its also a great restore option without needing Kies or ODIN once you have the custom recovery installed. If its possible now that we have custom recoveries I would love for someone who is capable to make it happen. Right now it's just the original and MDL update.
Just my request. I belong to that subset.
hamzer11 said:
Not sure if this is in the right place. I apologize if its not and please move it accordingly.
For the S3 there was a running thread where some developer would take every AT&T update, inject root into it and make it available for flashing via custom recovery. I know there is a subset of members here who are fine with TW. And now with the work Nottach put into his xposed module we get all the cool theming without losing TW features. We can also freeze or remove stock stuff as we see fit since all future updates would be flashed this way. This allows that subset of folks to freeze the stock updates and still be on the latest and greatest instead of updating and then rooting again. Its also a great restore option without needing Kies or ODIN once you have the custom recovery installed. If its possible now that we have custom recoveries I would love for someone who is capable to make it happen. Right now it's just the original and MDL update.
Just my request. I belong to that subset.
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This is available. If you add the Samsung Crap Pac back you get the base Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
rfb813 said:
This is available. If you add the Samsung Crap Pac back you get the base Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
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That ROM is not at all stock. It's been deodexed, zipaligned, etc. etc. Along with a few other mods. The OP is looking for root to be the only modification done to the ROM.
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I'm looking for something similar to the OP, but with the ROM being deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support, just not as pre-modified as MDOB is. A happy medium. I'm guessing the ROM Nottach is planning to release will be exactly what I'm looking for, gotta keep my fingers crossed!
KryptosXLayer2 said:
I'm looking for something similar to the OP, but with the ROM being deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support, just not as pre-modified as MDOB is. A happy medium. I'm guessing the ROM Nottach is planning to release will be exactly what I'm looking for, gotta keep my fingers crossed!
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ROMs like that usually get posted for devs to use as a base for their custom ROMs. So hopefully we'll see that soon.
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ROMs like that usually get posted for devs to use as a base for their custom ROMs. So hopefully we'll see that soon.
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Agreed, just gotta get on board with it before the originator of the "stock TW - rooted, deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support" ROM turns it into a circus with all the crazy mods no one initially wanted.... I've seen that happen one too many times and it actually caused me to unsubscribe from the thread! Too much work turns that stock ROM into what YOU actually want on your phone, not many others!
Please note, I'm NOT talking about MDOB, I like that ROM for what it is, but I want to bring it back one step before too many features are stripped off of it so I can choose what to remove myself, as well as allow full integration of Nottach's work and my SystemUI tweaks! Hell, if I knew what I was doing with some of this stuff, I'd try and make one myself, I just don't have the skill, time, or patience to maintain a thread on it though, unfortunately
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Agreed, just gotta get on board with it before the originator of the "stock TW - rooted, deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support" ROM turns it into a circus with all the crazy mods no one initially wanted.... I've seen that happen one too many times and it actually caused me to unsubscribe from the thread! Too much work turns that stock ROM into what YOU actually want on your phone, not many others!
Please note, I'm NOT talking about MDOB, I like that ROM for what it is, but I want to bring it back one step before too many features are stripped off of it so I can choose what to remove myself, as well as allow full integration of Nottach's work and my SystemUI tweaks! Hell, if I knew what I was doing with some of this stuff, I'd try and make one myself, I just don't have the skill, time, or patience to maintain a thread on it though, unfortunately
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+1 on this
Every other device I've had I have been able to get just a deodexed rom with root only. I guess we will have to learn or wait some more.
I guess I agree with you guys on a few of the other things I would do any way (de-odes, etc) and having the ability to remove what I want. I hope someone takes heed. Root injected ROM please (deodexed, zipaligned, etc ok) but then leave it to me to do whatever else. Anyone taking up the task?
KryptosXLayer2 said:
I'm looking for something similar to the OP, but with the ROM being deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support, just not as pre-modified as MDOB is. A happy medium. I'm guessing the ROM Nottach is planning to release will be exactly what I'm looking for, gotta keep my fingers crossed!
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Didn't know he was releasing one. Is there a thread already?
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Didn't know he was releasing one. Is there a thread already?
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No thread for the ROM just yet, but here's his quote from the Xposed Mod thread:
Nottach said:
I'm working on cleaning up the app and a new battery icon implementation that should cover any ROM or SysUi.
The next release, hopefully tomorrow, will be mainly performance and compatibility optimizations.
After that release I'm going to build a ROM that will be made specifically for this MOD.
I've got ideas...
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hamzer11 said:
I think you replied in the wrong thread but I'm with you on the excitement of this pending ROM. Hopefully that's the one I keep going for some time to come. He's done a brilliant job with the module.
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For sure.... as you can see from my sig, I kept the stock TW, deodexed, rooted, etc ROM on my SIII, and I plan to do the same with the S4, just want to get it working RIGHT like Samsung should have done from the beginning.... why the hell is it 2013 and we're still using Gingerbread green everywhere? ahhh, drives me crazy....
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In due time fellows in due time, the devs I'm sure are on this little issue, and will be included in all att roms.
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In due time fellows in due time, the devs I'm sure are on this little issue, and will be included in all att roms.
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Huh? The OP isn't looking to have anything included in all att ROMs. He wants one ROM. To be completely stock other than being pre-rooted.
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Huh? The OP isn't looking to have anything included in all att ROMs. He wants one ROM. To be completely stock other than being pre-rooted.
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Im talking about the updates, my bad.
This is what I meant when I posted this request. They are doing it on the international s4. Wonder why no interest here. Best part is that it keeps everything original, no counters are tripped and no status is changed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
I'd be really happy with a Scotts Clean Rom version, he runs the update and posts the latest rom soon after.
It's near stock and often adds options to put back in most that was stripped out.
I run it on my Note 2 and it is a thing of beauty. So smooth, still some touch-wiz but without AT&T bloat.
Unfortunately he doesn't have the funding for an AT&T S4 and thus far has only developed the Verizon S4.
http://www.scottsroms.com/content.php
Ok guys, I'm sorry if this has been posted before but I'm really a noob to ROM and in deadly afraid of messing up since my s4 is the UNLOCKED one. Ie, I was smart enough to check xda first before accepting any OTA updates.
Now, my problem :
1: In every rom thread I see, people say how this or that is more stable, or this or that gives better performance. It's very confusing! Then when I go to the thread featuring said rom, it says "hey. Do this and that, then flash our rom".
At this point I get lost. How do I flash said rom? Yes, Google is my friend. It is also my enemy since it provides a lot of unnecessary and sometimes scary information. Ie, bricking. I don't want to mess up. I paid full price for this phone at best buy, but it isn't the dev edition. If I brick it I can return it but I won't have root. (ok, I checked. I'll have root but no room for rom)
2: I want a rom with better battery life and better performance, without needing to worry about continually updating each build. I can't decide on any roms. The best I can see seems to be hyperdrive?
3: I absolutely need/want said rom to work with all my current apps. Is this a concern at all or do they all work more or less? Some of the games I play use mpaax4. (galaxy on fire2)
4: what else am I missing? I'm not new to rooting. Just roms. The s4 was the hardest for me to root, requiring Odin. No one click method there!
Please be gentle. I'm not stupid, just afraid of messing up since at this point I have no safety net.
Omega rom by Indie is a nice TW based rom for instance that is very stable. Also nicely customisable and themable. You flash it with a custom recovery.
Now, my problem :
1: In every rom thread I see, people say how this or that is more stable, or this or that gives better performance. It's very confusing! Then when I go to the thread featuring said rom, it says "hey. Do this and that, then flash our rom".
At this point I get lost. How do I flash said rom?
-Flash via custom recovery (Philz, CWM, etc)
Yes, Google is my friend. It is also my enemy since it provides a lot of unnecessary and sometimes scary information. Ie, bricking. I don't want to mess up. I paid full price for this phone at best buy, but it isn't the dev edition. If I brick it I can return it but I won't have root. (ok, I checked. I'll have root but no room for rom)
2: I want a rom with better battery life and better performance, without needing to worry about continually updating each build. I can't decide on any roms. The best I can see seems to be hyperdrive?
-we cannot pinpoint the "best" rom. and these kind of questions are usually not allowed. the "best" rom differs with one's personal preference.. so you might have to read changelogs before flashing custom roms.
3: I absolutely need/want said rom to work with all my current apps. Is this a concern at all or do they all work more or less? Some of the games I play use mpaax4. (galaxy on fire2)
-yes, they will work regardless of what rom (unless you are on an aosp based rom and you want tw apps to work, the odds pretty slim unless someone ports the apps)
4: what else am I missing? I'm not new to rooting. Just roms. The s4 was the hardest for me to root, requiring Odin. No one click method there!
-odin is pretty the same with superoneclick.. basically, all you have to do is click on PDA, insert root file (usually .tar), put phone to download mode and plug it to pc, then click start.
*good luck!
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Hi guys,
because there are so many ROMs available in the meantime, I wanna ask you for a recommendation. Right now, I am using the Stock ROM with root access. It means, I cannot update it to Lollipop.
After using this ROM for about a year now, I wanna change it to a newer one.
I do not want any customized ROM, because I am using my own launcher and I already know how to customize my design and apps and everything.
I just wanna find a very stable ROM that will work on the S5
SM-G900F
Baseband G900FXXU1ANCE
Kernel Version 3.4.0-1182732 31.3.2014
Build# KOT49H.G900FXXU1ANCE
Android 4.4.2
Thanks for your help!
Sven
First flash with odin stock (lollipop) ROM and flash root acces.
Than read all the s5 forums and check what the best one is for you.
Well, actually that was the reason why I started this thread. I want a recommendation, because there are too many ROM's available.
I do not need anything special. Just a stable ROM where I can install my Navigation app, gps tracker, and all my other apps.
Johnny camaro said:
First flash with odin stock (lollipop) ROM and flash root acces.
Than read all the s5 forums and check what the best one is for you.
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Read the whole first page of this treat:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52210608
There you find all the info you need.
svenvaeth said:
Hi guys,
because there are so many ROMs available in the meantime, I wanna ask you for a recommendation. Right now, I am using the Stock ROM with root access. It means, I cannot update it to Lollipop.
After using this ROM for about a year now, I wanna change it to a newer one.
I do not want any customized ROM, because I am using my own launcher and I already know how to customize my design and apps and everything.
I just wanna find a very stable ROM that will work on the S5
SM-G900F
Baseband G900FXXU1ANCE
Kernel Version 3.4.0-1182732 31.3.2014
Build# KOT49H.G900FXXU1ANCE
Android 4.4.2
Thanks for your help!
Sven
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I like the SpaceX Rom with the ktoonsez's TW 5.0 Kernel
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Is the XtreStoLite INTL 2.2 really stable? I really need my phone for work and for traveling. I travel a lot and I rely on the phone, most of the time. I use it as a navigation system and as my office, when I am on the way.
svenvaeth said:
Is the XtreStoLite INTL 2.2 really stable? I really need my phone for work and for traveling. I travel a lot and I rely on the phone, most of the time. I use it as a navigation system and as my office, when I am on the way.
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Im using it atm...working great with no bugs for me..
I was going to say XtreSoLite. I was pretty much in your exact same situation. I really wanted a "pure android" ROM (I guess that might mean ASOP ROM, but I've never really figured out if that's what that means). Basically, was hoping for the same thing that goes on Nexus phones. But every ROM I tried that didn't have TouchWiz was just so incredibly buggy I figured the stock ROM was really the only usable option. Which was frustrating.
Then I tried XtreSoLite.
It's like the stock ROM, but you can get rid of the annoying sht that you don't want, and you have a little more control over customization, especially when you run through the Aroma add-on installer, which basically is a step by step "do you want this?", "do you want to remove this?", "would you like to replace this with this?" process.
The overall speed of the phone feels a little faster than with stock, and the battery life a little better. Both were solid to begin with.
My phone is the T-Mobile S5 (SM-G900T).
I'm running XtreSoLite 2.1 Lollipop XXU1BOC7 (I think it's the second to latest version -- I think I read some negative things about the latest one shortly after it came out, so you might want to just go for 2.1).
Hey guys!
Im a noob when it comes to installing ROMs and crap like that into phones (never done it), so even after looking at alot of threads about lollipop on s4 im wondering. Is it worth the time and effort i need to go through to get it because im running an unlocked version so i cant get updates from at&t. Chances of bricking? Oh and i was wondering do i need a sd card to do all of this? Can i do this from my phones internal storage?
Many thanks in advance.
TheJuli said:
Hey guys!
Im a noob when it comes to installing ROMs and crap like that into phones (never done it), so even after looking at alot of threads about lollipop on s4 im wondering. Is it worth the time and effort i need to go through to get it because im running an unlocked version so i cant get updates from at&t. Chances of bricking? Oh and i was wondering do i need a sd card to do all of this? Can i do this from my phones internal storage?
Many thanks in advance.
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What system version are you currently on? Check your baseband in the About section of your settings. Depending on which it is, the process is different, but you can do it from internal storage either way.
DeadlySin9 said:
What system version are you currently on? Check your baseband in the About section of your settings. Depending on which it is, the process is different, but you can do it from internal storage either way.
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Im on 4.4.2 1337UCUFNB1 atm and rooted using towelroot.
Still, is lollipop worth the effort to update from this?
If yes how do i go on about doing it so the chances of bricking are low? (I just got the phone and paranoid )
The tutorials ive seen gave some terminology im not up to par with it :/
Thank you for the help!
Is anyone there willing to help?
Pliz.
TheJuli said:
Im on 4.4.2 1337UCUFNB1 atm and rooted using towelroot.
Still, is lollipop worth the effort to update from this?
If yes how do i go on about doing it so the chances of bricking are low? (I just got the phone and paranoid )
The tutorials ive seen gave some terminology im not up to par with it :/
Thank you for the help!
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It's mostly personal preference, but if you're already rooted then it's not very difficult to do. If you want to just use stock Lollipop with root it's as simple as install Safestrap, flash the OC4 ROM, and flash the kernel. I can get you links for that if you want. If you want a custom ROM, you'll have to also flash the SuperSU Beta file and the correct modules for either the OC3 or OC4 kernel, which isn't difficult. I can get you links if you want to go ahead with either of those, if you want a custom ROM though you'll have to pick one out yourself.
DeadlySin9 said:
It's mostly personal preference, but if you're already rooted then it's not very difficult to do. If you want to just use stock Lollipop with root it's as simple as install Safestrap, flash the OC4 ROM, and flash the kernel. I can get you links for that if you want. If you want a custom ROM, you'll have to also flash the SuperSU Beta file and the correct modules for either the OC3 or OC4 kernel, which isn't difficult. I can get you links if you want to go ahead with either of those, if you want a custom ROM though you'll have to pick one out yourself.
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The stock lollipop please or just any lollipop that won't give me trouble like camera or bluetooth not working! So how do i do all what you mentioned there? Thanks a ton btw!
DeadlySin9 said:
It's mostly personal preference, but if you're already rooted then it's not very difficult to do. If you want to just use stock Lollipop with root it's as simple as install Safestrap, flash the OC4 ROM, and flash the kernel. I can get you links for that if you want. If you want a custom ROM, you'll have to also flash the SuperSU Beta file and the correct modules for either the OC3 or OC4 kernel, which isn't difficult. I can get you links if you want to go ahead with either of those, if you want a custom ROM though you'll have to pick one out yourself.
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I ran into this => http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
Will it do the job for me? Seems easier than what you described - But i still dont get step number 7. How do i do that Odin's PDA/AP thing?
If you dont wanna be bothered with what i just asked, continue with your own method, if its safer.
Sooo, umm anyone else there in the community, knows how to do this and walk me through?
Pliz.
TheJuli said:
I ran into this => http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
Will it do the job for me? Seems easier than what you described - But i still dont get step number 7. How do i do that Odin's PDA/AP thing?
If you dont wanna be bothered with what i just asked, continue with your own method, if its safer.
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TheJuli said:
Sooo, umm anyone else there in the community, knows how to do this and walk me through?
Pliz.
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muniz_ri's thread that you linked is the preferred method for someone in your situation to accomplish what you want to do. The instructions are all there. Read through the instructions several times until it makes sense to you. If there is something you don't understand, ask specific questions. It is better (for you) if we don't hold your hand and walk you through everything, because you will learn more if you do it yourself.
Regarding: "Is it worth it?"
It's personal preference. I find the ui improvements in 5.0.1 not great...they are minor or in some cases they seem like down grades.
But I do find the phone noticeably snappier and faster in most tasks. I've had no glitches or fc in the week since I upgraded (I think most of the people complaining about problems about 5.0.1 took the ota without doing a reset) And you'll have the latest security updates also.
If you do upgrade, you have choice of odexed stock or deodexed stock. I'd recommend deodexed if you think you might want to use xposed in the future.
Installed it
In my experience 5.0.1, with its huge constant 1GB Ram usage (without apps or bloatware running and grenify too), was pretty meh. The design of things looks good and all but i personaly think that kitkat did it better RAM wise (Constantly on 500MB), and for that reason, I switched back. I did not experince any snappier or faster performance but i would say it was the same. All in all, if you want flashy and a good looking android phone without loss of performance, but only 800MB free RAM, go for it.
The only thing i learnt from all of this was, how android stuff actually works. So much searching of things lead me to learning more and more. Never had i ever used odin or flashed any firmware. This whole proccess went with some fright within me, but as long as you follow the steps correctly, there is nothing you should be afraid of.