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First let me say this thanks. Besides that let me say this, you should be geting paid for what you do. Not by the manufacturers, but by people like me who benefit from your effort. I understand that a great percentage if not all devs do this work out of the love for game. That's not lost on me, but it seems to me that the more devs you have working on something, the quicker things are released. Here's my proposition: Devs share the knowledge of how to get things done with those who are interested. And I don't mean linking to the android sdk page. We're dumb as **** when it comes to that. If someone would develop a tutorial that was inclusive of the required knowledge, along with shortcuts, cheats and the like, we could have something. There are so many newbs who want to know how to help but just cant. That knowledge is worth money and I'd pay by the hour to learn it from someone with knowledge rather than googling dozens of sights. Give us leadership and we'll give you money, set it up donation style so that those who are serious can participate. Personally, I'd pay 11$/hr for this training up front and I'd bet others would too. You'd also eliminate a lot of needless posts, replacing them with answers. I'll broker the deal for nothing but lets get something going. Maybe just start with the abc's of coding and go from there. Anyway, just a rom lovers's hope to a better community. You could even start a thread like "How I learned to dev" with tutorials and such. You guys know better than I how to start this up. Anyway, post your thoughts on the viability of such a project or whether I 'm pissin' in the wind.
This sounds lika an excellent idea!
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I would love that!
I may not know a lot but i would be very happy to give a full tutorial on theming, tweaks and some editing of layouts.
again not for the money, the more people we have the better the community we will have!!!
let me know if you are interested in what i know,
Great idea!
+1. I totally support this idea. I always want to do something for the community
Op just let me know how you would like to set up these sessions and you can pick my brain
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I may not know a lot but i would be very happy to give a full tutorial on theming, tweaks and some editing of layouts.
again not for the money, the more people we have the better the community we will have!!!
let me know if you are interested in what i know,
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Me wants your theming tutorials.
Do Google hangouts do screen share?
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I did a tutorial on theming a while back that seemed to help a lot of people get their feet wet. Itll help you understand how apk manager works and what not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186819
Oppo Find 5 Needs Developer Help, Donations Will Be Given, Help Make the Oppo Find 5 A Beast Modded With, Roms, Kernels, TWRPs, CWMs, We Need Someone Who Can Do This If You Are Willing To Donate Time To Oppo Find 5, And We Donate CASH.
I know that paperWastage and drewX2 have been doing some awesome work on the Oppo Find 5(OF5), but they cant do everything by themselves. TWRP and CMW are already working, but need updateded I think so. So I came up with an idea last night that would take some of the stress off their back and maybe someone could help them get things going a little faster, of course I will donate and I’m sure other will also. If my idea sounds stupid just delete this thread, I’m just trying to get as much help as we can on development with this device since it has the same CPU and GPU as most devices out today the quad core - S4Pro. The phone cost $499 and if we all pitch in a few bucks we could have the money for this phone to give to a developer who has worked with the S4Pro chipset before and knows most of how it operates and they will know what they are doing with the S4ProChipset. If this sounds like a good idea, I will start off by donating $20 so that that we can order this phone and send it to the developer of our choice. We need a really good dev. that isn’t working on anything right now and can spend some time turning our Oppo Find 5 into a beast.
If everyone agrees to donate a little as you want anything will help we only need $400to get this phone , I have saw more than that raised in one day. I don’t want to be in control of the money someone with a little ore authority here at XDA can do that. So does this sound like a good Idea, If so start getting in contact with some of the best developers that you know and let them know we got a free phone waiting on them and other donation for time and effort.
I WILL ADD NAME IF YOU ANT ME TOO - LIST OF DEVELOPERS. I will add others as people get in touch with the me or other developers and give them either give a YES or NO for committing time to the Oppo Find 5. When list is made we will all vote of which developers to send the phone out to so they can begin development.
1. drewX2 - He is working on Mod of CM10 and he does not even own the Oppo Find 5. Definitely on the top of my lists CM10 WORK http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197147
2. paperWastage- I think he has Oppo Find 5 already though still dedicating a lot of time and a beer of coffee would be nice.
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If you want your name on the list put in post and I will add it, I only made 10 for now if we need more I will add them later. Hopefully this is something that people consider; you don’t have to donate all kinds of money even $5 will work, Hell $3 will work, anything to get us closer to that $400. Everyone does not need to donate like some people will and donate $20 or $30 dollars. Because right now we need some serious help paperWastage and drewX2 have been doing some awesome work, a couple people can’t do this all by themselves, and if we want to make this phone worth every cent we spent for it, we really need to make this a nice phone that we can flash Roms, Kernels, and all the good stuff then this is a good opportunity to make it happen.
I'd buy a phone for a Dev. I think Entropy512,KamMa NODO-GT and XpLoDWilD already have the phone though....I haven't had a S4 Pro phone before so I don't know any experienced devs,but count me in for $10 a month.
I want to contribute whith my donations.
I´ve already make one to Kamma AOSP´s proyect
My next donation will go to Xplodwild when he launch his new builds of CM10.1
Donations do nothing but fragment the community in almost all situations. In fact, more often than not, users don't even remotely get their money's worth from device donations to developers.
Hell, in my opinion even teamhacksung device donations for CM bringups were bad ideas in the long run - they caused developers who had potential to achieve something to just say "****it, teamhacksung is here, I'll just kang".
If the device is still in a bad state after 4-5 months - yeah, then maybe it's time to start considering donation drives.
But a device that has only had kernel source available for 2-3 weeks? Hell no.
It often takes MONTHS to properly learn a device's ins and outs. You can't just throw devices at developers and immediately have good stuff overnight. More often than not, developers who take donations in advance will just take donations for another device in a month or two - I've seen it all the time.
Don't donate to encourage work to be done - only donate for work that has already been done.
And I'll be blunt - drewx2 should never have created a CM thread here. Blind development almost never works and fails spectactularly instead, especially for a CM bringup. Blind development only works for devices that are 99% identical to one the developer owns (I777 vs. I9100, N8010 vs. N8013, I777 vs. S959G, etc.) His thread is just a donation ploy. Any maintainer with the discipline to do a bringup knows when it is NOT the time to publically release anything because it's nowhere near ready, and also knows that you do NOT do blind development for a CM bringup.
Mod please delete thread, devs should get paid after they show progress in thier work
Mod please delete this thread everything you said made since. Give donation to the people when the work is in progress and completed, and not before I always give donations for devs efforts but you have taught me a lesson.
You know what you are doing Entropy512, you been around awhile, and I wish so bad you had this device even if you would work on it. I really like the phone its badass and its not all that buggy it just needs some kinks ironed out and in my opinion some kernels because this kernel is not running like it should. We need a kernel so we can play with and overclock or underclock with good governors to ramp it up or down.Come on down faux and show-p plus many more.
Can't we all just get along? Work together already.
Okay, enough is enough. This thread has just turned into a playground, as well as being pointless and jumping the gun in the first place. At everyone involved in the arguing, you really do need to stop doing it publicly. At the OP, be patient and see what the developers bring.
Thread closed at OP request.
As there is no development on ubuntu touch for the 9505 then I want to know how many people are intrested in having ubuntu on their phones.
If this is not a reason for devlopers not to work on it, then could someone explain it to me ?
P.S I am not developer and dont tell me to try to builded myslef because if I was able to do it I would.
Lots. However...
Until/unless you find a dev with the time who is personally interested in it, don't expect it to happen anytime soon. Devs don't develop stuff purely because a bunch of users want it, if they're not interested in it/or don't have the time (or it's just really really difficult/having to deal with proprietary/unreleased sources, etc), it won't happen (USB audio on the S2 as an example).
Hello everyone,
most of you probably don't know me since I did not develop for Samsung devices for quite some time now.
I would be interested in aiding the Exynos 5420 development scene (in particular on the Galaxy Note 10.1) and prepare a custom Android distribution for it (Team EOS 5.0 - Lollipop).
I can get all the required drivers and binaries I need for development, since most of it is open source luckily.
And the Nexus 10 (manta) can still be used as reference for many things.
All I need is a development device to debug on.
It is particularly important that this is the Galaxy Note 10.1 EXYNOS (WiFi-only variant), and not the LTE (Qualcomm) variant.
I created this thread to ask whether someone has a spare device lying around, maybe because of the little development on Exynos 5 devices, or if people would be willing to donate a device (I'm a university student and unfortunately can not afford the full price for a new device. I'm willing to dive into the Exynos development scene and spend time on this device though, including extensive debugging).
You can leave a reply in this thread or contact me on gmail: [email protected]
I have a better idea. Sending device is a problem. But we can donate to you, and then u can purchase P600 or P601 on SWAPA or EBAY. not new but fully working
I would be glad to see working AOSP/MAHDI or other ROMs runnig on my P601
Yeah, that was the initial idea.
I would pay any shipping costs or parts of a device (a used one is perfectly fine).
The issue I see is that probably not enough people willing to donate enough small amounts of money, hence I asked if someone had a spare device I could buy or pay the shipping costs.
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Yeah, that was the initial idea.
I would pay any shipping costs or parts of a device (a used one is perfectly fine).
The issue I see is that probably not enough people willing to donate enough small amounts of money, hence I asked if someone had a spare device I could buy or pay the shipping costs.
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I think it would be better to ask for donations because there is not a lot of people here although it would be hard. There have been previous instances where at least 2 different devs raised donations for this device before stopping development shortly after so people do have some trust issues. It would take a while but i'm sure people would donate considering you are offering an AOSP experience. If you renamed this thread to something like: Donations needed for new device- AOSP rom development. Then it would catch a lot of eyes because that's what a lot of people want The question remains whether people would actually donate. The average cost for you would be around 250-300 euros I think. That means you would need around 28 people (10 each). Whatever way you decide to go down, I wish you luck and I look forward to any rom developments if you do manage to get the device :good:
You seem to have quite a respectable history (in both Rom & kernel developement), so I think getting enough donations should be doable (and I'd be willing to donate a few bucks myself)
But I do have a few questions:
1) What about warranty? Some devs who had collected donations for a (used) device, have bricked their devices -> no more developement
Therefore P600 owners might be scared / hard to convince
2) what exactly is "Team EOS 5.0" and what makes it different from other Roms? Would you perhaps consider developing other Roms / kernels as well? (like porting over PA for example?)
Or would you maybe consider becoming the official P600 CyanogenMod maintainer (since we don't have one, yet)? [<- I think this one would be reason enough to donate]
Last but not least:
You could ask one of the XDA members who managed the previous donation-collections for help (they have successfully done it before, so they might be able to do it again :fingers-crossed: )
PS: The Note 10.1 2014 is great for college, trust me - I'm a student, too . All you need is the Papyrus-App from the Play Store.
Thank you two for your reasonable thoughts.
I think the main reason why the previous developers stopped developing for this device rather quickly is the Exynos chip.
The main difference between me and anyone else is (or so I believe) the fact that I am especially interested in developing for the Exynos 5420 chip and the drivers for it (mainly from the Insignal forum source).
As far as bricked devices, I can say I had a Samsung device before, and as long as the bootloader is unlockable and access to ODIN (The firmware flashing tool) is granted, a hard brick is rather hard to achieve. I see little risk here, and I assume my previous development experience will prevent me from making major mistakes in that regard.
A new device would cost me approximately 350€, so if we could collect about 300$ with donations (which would equal something like 270€), I'd pay the remaining costs.
People are of course free to check my development history and/or references first and see if they think I would benefit the aosp development scene for this device.
The ROM I mentioned (Team EOS 5.0 lollipop) is essentially AOSP 5.0 with selected features that we code ourselves, like EOS Weather, or the NX gesture interface.
If people however see the need for an official CM maintainer, I'd be happy to become this as well, all I need is a device to debug and develop on, I'd be willing to spend the time to officially maintain this device.
Other developers and/or contributors should also expect support from me in areas of kernel development or AOSP custom ROM development. I believe in 'sharing is caring', so all my knowledge and achievements on this device shall benefit the community.
If some of you could maybe contact the people who raised donations before, I'd be thankful and gratious for the support. All donations will be listed here and the whole process shall be as transparent as possible.
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Thank you two for your reasonable thoughts.
I think the main reason why the previous developers stopped developing for this device rather quickly is the Exynos chip.
The main difference between me and anyone else is (or so I believe) the fact that I am especially interested in developing for the Exynos 5420 chip and the drivers for it (mainly from the Insignal forum source).
As far as bricked devices, I can say I had a Samsung device before, and as long as the bootloader is unlockable and access to ODIN (The firmware flashing tool) is granted, a hard brick is rather hard to achieve. I see little risk here, and I assume my previous development experience will prevent me from making major mistakes in that regard.
A new device would cost me approximately 350€, so if we could collect about 300$ with donations (which would equal something like 270€), I'd pay the remaining costs.
People are of course free to check my development history and/or references first and see if they think I would benefit the aosp development scene for this device.
The ROM I mentioned (Team EOS 5.0 lollipop) is essentially AOSP 5.0 with selected features that we code ourselves, like EOS Weather, or the NX gesture interface.
If people however see the need for an official CM maintainer, I'd be happy to become this as well, all I need is a device to debug and develop on, I'd be willing to spend the time to officially maintain this device.
Other developers and/or contributors should also expect support from me in areas of kernel development or AOSP custom ROM development. I believe in 'sharing is caring', so all my knowledge and achievements on this device shall benefit the community.
If some of you could maybe contact the people who raised donations before, I'd be thankful and gratious for the support. All donations will be listed here and the whole process shall be as transparent as possible.
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Hi. Here's the most recent donation thread which was successful :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742793
I don't see why another thread is needed though. I don't mind opening one up for you but you might as well use this one if you just rename it and state your intentions in the op.
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Hi. Here's the most recent donation thread which was successful :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742793
I don't see why another thread is needed though. I don't mind opening one up for you but you might as well use this one if you just rename it and state your intentions in the op.
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Okay, so if maybe one of you guys, with good contact to the community, could open a new donatiion thread to collect the ~300$, I'd be grateful.
Or maybe @drrasii could chime in here and edit his first donation thread and link here as a reference to let people know what I want to do.
As I said above, I'd be willing to become the official CM maintainer, or if CM refuses to accept this for some reason, I'd host the needed sources for the device on my personal GitHub and keep it updated so people can build whatever ROM they want.
Of course, the first goal would be to get Lollipop running on this tablet, which I'd start with as soon as the device is ordered/has arrived.
Hey guys. That donation thread I started a while ago was on a whim cause I wanted Hyperdrive by sbreen on my Note. Was lucky enough to have him commit and get enough people chipping in for the tablet which was met with success. I'm by no means a great organizer or somebody with tight connections here on XDA . Probably would be best if someone who wanted to head it up would start a new thread stating the case.
Best of luck!
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Okay, so if maybe one of you guys, with good contact to the community, could open a new donatiion thread to collect the ~300$, I'd be grateful.
Or maybe @drrasii could chime in here and edit his first donation thread and link here as a reference to let people know what I want to do.
As I said above, I'd be willing to become the official CM maintainer, or if CM refuses to accept this for some reason, I'd host the needed sources for the device on my personal GitHub and keep it updated so people can build whatever ROM they want.
Of course, the first goal would be to get Lollipop running on this tablet, which I'd start with as soon as the device is ordered/has arrived.
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Thanks for the quick answer.
Could one of you guys (@22sl22 or @r4yN) then open a new donation thread and explain a bit about this thread and my plans?
If we manage to handle this process rather quickly, people should be able to enjoy L on this tablet soon hopefully.
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Thanks for the quick answer.
Could one of you guys (@22sl22 or @r4yN) then open a new donation thread and explain a bit about this thread and my plans?
If we manage to handle this process rather quickly, people should be able to enjoy L on this tablet soon hopefully.
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Sure, i'll open one now :good:
I'll also post a message in here after the new thread has been created so that people know http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/rumours-plans-to-android-5-0-t2861225
EDIT: before I open the thread, how much do you actually need? $300 is about 240 Euros, not 270 so we will need a bit more, say $350, would that be OK?
Thank you very much.
Actually, 300$ (240$) is enough, I'd be willing to pay the other 100€ myself if it needs to be.
I want to get started rather quickly and have L running on this device, so I'd order the device as soon as the 300$ are collected.
Why a P600 model and not the P601 model?
The p601 to develop is exactly the same from p600 plus the phone side.
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Why the delay? Here are the first 10 €!
RaymanFX said:
Thank you very much.
Actually, 300$ (240$) is enough, I'd be willing to pay the other 100€ myself if it needs to be.
I want to get started rather quickly and have L running on this device, so I'd order the device as soon as the 300$ are collected.
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Hi RaymanFX!
Glad to see that a real dev wants to take our device and port CM11 for us.
I do not make many words, but simply push the first $ 12.12 to you.
That's the current rates for 10, -€.
Hope it works as good as for sbreen (dev from HyperdriveRom) and many people jumps like lemmings behind me. :good: Haha!
Hope also we get the money quickly together and will try to continue to encourage people to make a small donation.
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Hey RaymanFX, excited for asop 5.0 but curious about some of the stock features that make this tablet. Is there any way to preserve multi window support or s-pen features ?
First thanks to all developers,who makes mi a1 more flexible with Thier custom roms,I here to make some request to you developers,people's here getting bored of trying android 7.1,8,8.1 versions with the same source,all developers making the same rom with different names,we all are looking for something interesting like UI,themes and launcher based roms,pls make some moded roms with UI of miui,flyme os,samsung,Baidu will make mi a1 more interesting,ppls who like to support this theard write your suggestions to know those developers with all respect,thank you,have a nice day
I don't want to be rude. But why would you post it here of all places?
1. No developer is going to even read this post unless it creates a "boom" on the internet.
2. These ROMs are, and will be developed the way Google and other corporations want, and the way they'll get the most money off of it.
3. If you are that desperate, make the ROM yourself.
Have a great day.
I will try not to be rude, and i am sorry for if it feels that way.
First of all, if you are requesting, why make a Q&A thread?
Secondly, the ROMs which you currently have are highly customizable; yes they are all based on the same vanilla android, but that cannot be helped unless somehow Google is to release new android versions every month; moreover, each of these ROMs them have their own unique features to an extent. You can theme your phone to your liking and you can change to any launcher you want, so i don't really understand what is your request?
As of the MIUI, it might come as a ROM for the device in near future and for the others I don't really think anyone would want TouchWiz running in their phone instead of vanilla android.
You can literally do loads to customize your device and would suggest you look into it deeper.
Ok I will try to be rude.. just stop requesting roms. Devs work on their own free time. And you have no right to ask for roms.. if one day someone does decide to port miui or others. It will not be because you requested.
"people's here getting bored of trying android 7.1,8,8.1 versions with the same source", speak to yourself.
Also, if you are tired of stock feeling, why the heck did you buy an Android One phone??
Let's follow the forum rules, shall we?
I'm sure he has gotten his answer already.
OP didn't even asked a question in the first place. Oh, wait, shall all answers begin with a fake "I don't want to be rude but..."?
It's not fake. It's true. I just said that you should mind your language.