While I'm waiting for my verizon s7 edge, I saw a lot of people post screen shot of s7 and s7 edge showing android system use battery over 20%. I just wondering if this is common problem or just happen to several users? This makes me really worry of my upcoming s7 edge.
I have that too. Don't see any issues with it but then again what do I know. Battery is really good still
I feel like it should be excellent.... we always pursue for better right? My nexus 6 is usually less than 5% for android system. Imagine if it's 5% how good the battery life would be.
Yes mine is the same which seems odd to me too. It should be the screen. Like angionicholai said though. Im still getting great battery life. But I would assume knocking down Android system would help a sizeable amount
Yes I certainly am and it's a little concerning but I'm not very worried. Batery life has been quite good and I'm assuming will only get better with OTA updates and our lovely dev's
I feel like every phone has a "catch all" that the basic phone operations fall under, as far as reporting battery drain. I don't think that the battery drain is higher than it should be for my phone, and my android system has shown as high as 36%. Even with that, the phone was still at 62% after moderate use at work all day (10 hours). That's better than any other android phone I've had. My V10 would have been around 20-30% after a day like that.
One thing I have noticed about this phone is that it doesn't sit at 100% for very long at all. Previous phones I've had would sometimes still be at 100% when I got to work in the morning. This phone is at 98% before I get to the car. I think it's all in the way that they report the percentage. This phone appears to be more linear, and other phones try to fake you into thinking the battery is going to last forever by making it stay at 100% for an hour or two.
Try to judge the battery life in a general, overall sense, instead of watching the draw of each application. See if that changes your opinion of the battery life.
Android system is taking up about 30% of my battery use. That's quite high. Strangely, I'm still very happy with my battery life. Probably because I haven't had a phone with a 3600 mAh battery before, and I'm getting 5 hours of SOT out of the box, without any attempt to save power. Plus my last phone was the S6.
Having said that, I might start experimenting with things to see if Android system can be tacked down. The list of processes running for Android system is quite long.
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I should also mention that this drain doesn't seem to affect Marshmallow's doze feature. The battery graph flat-lines nicely when I'm not using the phone.
Android System is at 31% for me right now. Definitely the highest on any Android phone i've had. I'm just going to chalk it up to the phone settling in. If it is actually an issue, hopefully they'll address it with an update.
Run Ampre, what is the draw on the battery while it's idle?
Android system is 37% while Android OS is 19% and then Screen is 14% with 1 hour on. Phone has been off charger for 3:30 and is down to 83%. However if you factor the use out that would give me 20 hours and 37 min with 5 hours and 50 min of screen time. I just got the phone Tuesday afternoon so I am hopping after a couple more battery cycles this calms down.
Is it possible that everything was more efficient to drop the battery usage except android sysyem. This would result in a higher percentage showing but in turn its using the same amount as other phones. It would helpful to test of someone could post a picture of their android system usage when battery gets low.
Someone should create a Bugs and Issues thread. And maybe down the road add fixes.
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Is it possible that everything was more efficient to drop the battery usage except android sysyem. This would result in a higher percentage showing but in turn its using the same amount as other phones. It would helpful to test of someone could post a picture of their android system usage when battery gets low.
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That's what i've heard is the case.
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That's what i've heard is the case.
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It might also be helpful if we could compare end of day Android System battery consumption between the Exynos version and Snapdragon.
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I'm on the S5 until my S7 edge comes in. I sometimes get high android system usage when there's background updates going on or after an OTA update for a few days. Usually it seems to resolve by itself. Maybe give it a few days and see if there's still high drain? Also could be a bug that will be worked out in an OTA update.
Mine has the same thing. I disabled everything possible and the idle drain is really bad. My 6P has system drain at 2% so there's clearly an issue here when my S7E has 30-40% system drain
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Mine has the same thing. I disabled everything possible and the idle drain is really bad. My 6P has system drain at 2% so there's clearly an issue here when my S7E has 30-40% system drain
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For discussion, here's my latest use summary. Note, I have location off, wifi scanning off, Bluetooth off.
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For discussion, here's my latest use summary. Note, I have location off, wifi scanning off, Bluetooth off.
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I'm not using my S7E until my screen protector arrives outside of being at home because I managed to get a small scratch on the screen already on day 1. I'll post some screenshots of the usage regardless because it's still high,but for now this is my 6P for reference.
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I thought mine was contributed to the fact I use Adguard's VPN connection, so I didn't think much of it especially since I achieved more SOT than my Note 5 did by 1.5 hours. I typically get 5 to 5.5 hours of SOT.
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I thought mine was contributed to the fact I use Adguard's VPN connection, so I didn't think much of it especially since I achieved more SOT than my Note 5 did by 1.5 hours. I typically get 5 to 5.5 hours of SOT.
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No doubt that battery life on the S7E seems to be very impressive. I'm just wondering if we can squeeze more out of it if we can figure out what's causing Android System to take up so many resources.
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I'm noticing that battery life is worse in 4.2.2 - I was on cm10.1 nightlies w. Cm10.1 kernel and was getting about 10 hours screen-on time before I needed to charge, but I'm getting 7 hours at best on 4.2.2 stock (rooted, bootlader locked).
I have the usual culprits turned off - Google now, location services, currents background updates etc. So I hoped I would at least get the same.
Anyone else?
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I'm noticing that battery life is worse in 4.2.2 - I was on cm10.1 nightlies w. Cm10.1 kernel and was getting about 10 hours screen-on time before I needed to charge, but I'm getting 7 hours at best on 4.2.2 stock (rooted, bootlader locked).
I have the usual culprits turned off - Google now, location services, currents background updates etc. So I hoped I would at least get the same.
Anyone else?
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Put the latest cm10.1 build on. They merged in 4.2.2.
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I'm noticing that battery life is worse in 4.2.2 - I was on cm10.1 nightlies w. Cm10.1 kernel and was getting about 10 hours screen-on time before I needed to charge, but I'm getting 7 hours at best on 4.2.2 stock (rooted, bootlader locked).
I have the usual culprits turned off - Google now, location services, currents background updates etc. So I hoped I would at least get the same.
Anyone else?
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I have never gotten more than 8 hours of battery life with 4.2.1, but so far on 4.2.2 I'm down to 73 with 3:30 screen time, so I guess it got better for me
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Put the latest cm10.1 build on. They merged in 4.2.2.
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Yes! I just read that. I am just about to do it now.
I can't comment on battery life, but did notice something a little alarming with regard to battery drain. Was on the couch for an hour talking to someone using viber, just plain text. No video or audio. Tablet was plugged into the wall, and after about an hour i noticed that the battery had gone from 100% to 98%. Should not be possible for a simple messaging app to cause the battery to drain faster than it can charge. screen was on auto brightness as well.
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I can't comment on battery life, but did notice something a little alarming with regard to battery drain. Was on the couch for an hour talking to someone using viber, just plain text. No video or audio. Tablet was plugged into the wall, and after about an hour i noticed that the battery had gone from 100% to 98%. Should not be possible for a simple messaging app to cause the battery to drain faster than it can charge. screen was on auto brightness as well.
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Did you look at your battery information to see what was using the most energy? Display is always far and away the highest for me, and if it was on Auto Brightness, depending on the lighting around you, it could have been running at full brightness...which would be a pretty massive drain on battery.
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Tablet was plugged into the wall, and after about an hour i noticed that the battery had gone from 100% to 98%. Should not be possible for a simple messaging app to cause the battery to drain faster than it can charge
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Once the device reaches a full charge it cuts off the power draw to avoid damaging the battery. It's normal for it to hover between 97% and 100% while still plugged in.
I barely get 6 hours of use now.
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Did you look at your battery information to see what was using the most energy? Display is always far and away the highest for me, and if it was on Auto Brightness, depending on the lighting around you, it could have been running at full brightness...which would be a pretty massive drain on battery.
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I did not look at battery usage, but the screen was generally dimmed, where as normally i have it manually set to full brightness, and nothing was running in the background that would not normally be running, that is to say nothing other than android stuff, it's basically a tablet for internet, email and skype/viber while i watch films etc on my computer
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Once the device reaches a full charge it cuts off the power draw to avoid damaging the battery. It's normal for it to hover between 97% and 100% while still plugged in.
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Indeed, but this has never happened before and i typically run the device with screen on maximum brightness. on 4.2.1 it would always show 100% when plugged in, i never once saw it drop to 99% or below.
So without further analysis of the issue, it could either be that something is sucking more power, which would seem odd, or that the update has brought about changes to the way the device charges, or changes to the way the device displays the battery level.
Damn guys, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I'm jumping around in happiness when I manage to get over 6 hours of screen time lol.
I've been on battery for the past 12+ hours with about 6 hours 15 minutes screen time and still have 36% battery left. Battery seems at least as good as on 4.2.1.
... beamed from my Nexus 10 to your planet
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Damn guys, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I'm jumping around in happiness when I manage to get over 6 hours of screen time lol.
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if you are rooted change your processor speed to 1.5gHz, it really helped me get better battery life
so far at 6 hours of youtube with 50% left to go
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if you are rooted change your processor speed to 1.5gHz, it really helped me get better battery life
so far at 6 hours of youtube with 50% left to go
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Thanks, I've done this now, and get about 5~6 hours of screen time now with around 50% left.
My battery life has gotten considerably better after updating to 4.2.2. The biggest improvement is how little the battery life drains on standby...it's nearly nonexistent.
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Standby has always been great for me. With stock rooted 4.2.2 I'm getting great battery life. Loses maybe 2% after 8-10 hours idle. In constant use I'm averaging 11 hours on screen. I have everything on and synced but as I'm indoors I stick to 30% brightness. Also, I'm mostly just browsing. With games the life would be less for sure. Totally satisfied with the battery life of this tablet. If yours is getting truly bad battery life I suggest you try searching for rogue apps. After that, try a complete reflash of the stock image which deletes everything. Another thing I've found that helps performance is setting the WiFi band manually. As I have a pretty good router that utilizes both the 5 and 2.4ghz bands I set mine to 5ghz only. I live in a town house and 2.4ghz can be pretty congested even after turning my antenna power up to 150mv or greater. The 5ghz band is pretty open. I'm getting load times on webpages comparable to my i5 2500k sandy at 4.5ghz and ssd with its 5ghz WiFi n wireless card. This is the quickest rendering tablet I've ever used.
As an aside, the complete re image to stock 4.2.2 from Google might fix reboot problems as well. It seems to do wonders for people with battery and other issues on early n4s. My screen on mine is new but the hardware is from launch day.
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Well...
Well, I haven't tried that, but I have heard that many people said the update can help save battery.
i just got the update i was barley able to hit 3 hours screen time lets see how this one lasts.
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i just got the update i was barley able to hit 3 hours screen time lets see how this one lasts.
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Three hours T h a T Is horrible
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My battery life is significantly worse after the update. I flashed back to stock 4.2.2. It seems that the problem with mine is my tablet isn't sleeping. Android os is the highest battery user. Maps is taking a lot too. I have Google now and location services turned on so I'll try disabling those again... No rebooting though
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filthygoat223996 said:
if you are rooted change your processor speed to 1.5gHz, it really helped me get better battery life
so far at 6 hours of youtube with 50% left to go
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do you mean reducing the maximum cpu clock to 1.5 ghz?
My battery life has been pretty good. However, the number one thing consistently using battery is "Android System". Is this normal? Thanks!
Same here. On all my other Android phones Screen is the top user.
U are using ips technology on the screen unlike amold that saamy used which kills the battery in hours in full brightness . As you could see that the iPhone has good batttery life because the 720p ips screen.
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I've found that rebooting the phone after taking it off of charge, the battery life is awesome. There seem to be some wakelocks that kill the battery and for some reason, charging has something to do with it.
I don't know if this is why, but I heard the G2 has special screen technology that greatly reduces battery drain.
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Those claiming that Android System > Screen for battery use on the G2...I'm coming from a Nexus 4 which is also IPS.
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I don't know if this is why, but I heard the G2 has special screen technology that greatly reduces battery drain.
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Yeah, somthing about 30% lower battery use or something like that. It's 6 hours since I took mine off the charger, must admit very moderate use, some toying, some photos, some mails and 1 phone call. but still, my phone is at 96% battery. My old S2 would be at 60% at this point.
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Yeah, somthing about 30% lower battery use or something like that. It's 6 hours since I took mine off the charger, must admit very moderate use, some toying, some photos, some mails and 1 phone call. but still, my phone is at 96% battery. My old S2 would be at 60% at this point.
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What's your highest battery user?
I'm at 93% after 5 hours with only a dozen SMSes, an IMAP push account with a few emails, and 2 other pop accounts, very light use...Android System is 34%, Screen 21%.
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What's your highest battery user?
I'm at 93% after 5 hours with only a dozen SMSes, an IMAP push account with a few emails, and 2 other pop accounts, very light use...Android System is 34%, Screen 21%.
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System was 30, Screen was 28
FredWorrell said:
I've found that rebooting the phone after taking it off of charge, the battery life is awesome. There seem to be some wakelocks that kill the battery and for some reason, charging has something to do with it.
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I tried this and it worked. However, one instance is not proof I guess haha. I will experiment more tomorrow (namely, not rebooting after charging) and let you know what I find. I wonder what specifically about charging may cause wakelocks?
Over 48 hours of use, more than 50% battery left. 3,5 hours screen time. Android system worst offender with 35%, screen 2nd with 25%.
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If you look at the programs listed under Android System, try uninstalling the ones that you would never use. This has seemed to help me. But to be honest it was kind of unnessary because the battery life is just crazy badass. In a few weeks or so when the devs have there way this phone is going to be epic.
It is two things, which by the way are great news.
A) LG's screen tech which doesn't refresh pixels when the images are static
and B) IPS
What we can't control is screen power consumption, but guess what? We can control android system consumption through kernels and roms. This means that we can *hopefully* expect EVEN BETTER! battery life since the screen is, for 80% of users, the main culprit for energy drain.
Just a quick note that flashing CleanROM on my ATT LG G2 basically took my battery life from <20% at the end of the workday to just under 80% at the end of the work day with increased use on the CleanROM install. Highly recommended.
Been off the charger since 6:50 this morning. Sitting here at work doing some texting, Words With Friends, and a test call for a co-worker...96% at 12:15pm. My Nexus would have been at 40% by now.
So is Android System different from Android OS?
I normally can squeeze out 15-22 hours since installing Snapdragon Battery Guru. Which has been working great until today.
Here's my situation today:
-100% charge at around 1230am. Light to moderate usage leaves me with
-77% between night before and waking up (only dropped like 2% overnight) at
-830, then i worked from 9 to 1230 so i didnt use my phone too much. But since ive been off work ive been using it more so im not too surprised about my low battery level currently.
But what concerns me is Android OS using half my battery! It says its been active for more than 4 hours and i dont understand where it comes from. Its way more than my screen usage even with a screen time of little over 3 hours.
Anyone know whats up with Android OS? It doesnt tell me what is running when i select it so im lost.
Also ive done many of the suggestions in this thread with positive results. Ive been monitoring my wakelocks and since doing some of the suggestions on here nlpcollector has actually gone down.
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amazing battery life
osiris010 said:
So is Android System different from Android OS?
I normally can squeeze out 15-22 hours since installing Snapdragon Battery Guru. Which has been working great until today.
Here's my situation today:
-100% charge at around 1230am. Light to moderate usage leaves me with
-77% between night before and waking up (only dropped like 2% overnight) at
-830, then i worked from 9 to 1230 so i didnt use my phone too much. But since ive been off work ive been using it more so im not too surprised about my low battery level currently.
But what concerns me is Android OS using half my battery! It says its been active for more than 4 hours and i dont understand where it comes from. Its way more than my screen usage even with a screen time of little over 3 hours.
Anyone know whats up with Android OS? It doesnt tell me what is running when i select it so im lost.
Also ive done many of the suggestions in this thread with positive results. Ive been monitoring my wakelocks and since doing some of the suggestions on here nlpcollector has actually gone down.
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Just to benchmark .... I used the phone moderatley ..
I did.. a little over 50 hours of total on time
4.75 hours of on screen time,
2 hours of spotify with bluetooth for the entire time,
2 hours of MapMyRun with GPS running ..
then various text messaging and a couple phone calls
The only modifications i've made to the stop experiance is taking of google's location service for programs, but leaving GPS active .. and changing the screen to auto-brightness, baseline of 50%.
I came from the SGS2 ..... with 1 hour of on screen time and the other spotify and bluetooth .. i'd be around 10-20% after 8-10 hours !!!!!
Mines pretty awesome.
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I'm not sure if my battery is defective or not. Right out of the box was around 75% and I drained it until it turned off then charged it to full.
Over the next few days at work it's on wifi and then on 3G/4G before /after work. I pull it from the charger at 7:30am and by 7pm its at 40%. Then on Friday night I unplugged it at 12am with 100% and woke up the next day with 80%. It's dropping like 1% about 10-15minutes. Would a factory reset fix the battery drain? or call for a replacement?
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Just to benchmark .... I used the phone moderatley ..
I did.. a little over 50 hours of total on time
4.75 hours of on screen time,
2 hours of spotify with bluetooth for the entire time,
2 hours of MapMyRun with GPS running ..
then various text messaging and a couple phone calls
The only modifications i've made to the stop experiance is taking of google's location service for programs, but leaving GPS active .. and changing the screen to auto-brightness, baseline of 50%.
I came from the SGS2 ..... with 1 hour of on screen time and the other spotify and bluetooth .. i'd be around 10-20% after 8-10 hours !!!!!
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wow that's really amazing. ill try that out and disable google location services and see what happens. will that interfere with google now? i mean i would totally sacrifice google now for 50 hours though.
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Day 1 lolol just wanted to be the first to make this!!
Gemme a few days and I'll post some pics. Also include your usage, signal, and any disabled apps/services! Let's get it!!
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Day 1 lolol just wanted to be the first to make this!!
Gemme a few days and I'll post some pics. Also include your usage, signal, and any disabled apps/services! Let's get it!!
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Mines been quite poor, but it's been downloading and installing apps over LTE for hours. Not exactly a fair benchmark.
7 hours of screen on time with 10 percent battery lef. I'm satisfied
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Mines been quite poor, but it's been downloading and installing apps over LTE for hours. Not exactly a fair benchmark.
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Same here. But when i finished installing it, I fully charged it around 9pm last night and it just went to 10% today at 1pm
I'm at 4h 40m screen on time, with 36% left in the tank. I put the mid batt saver on at 65%. At this point I'm pretty impressed.
The battery is downright impressive!
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7 hours of screen on time with 10 percent battery lef. I'm satisfied
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Wow that is impressive! I have the Snapdragon US model and have only gotten about 4.5 average so far.
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Wow that is impressive! I have the Snapdragon US model and have only gotten about 4.5 average so far.
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Yea I don't know what happen but my last 2 charges after that has been around 5 hrs max. I didn't do anything different. But I'm still satisfied with 5 hrs SOT
One thing that isn't mentioned enough is battery maintenance and care. A carefully maintained battery will last longer, and store more energy, therefore providing more time between charges. I have a lot of knowledge about lithium based batteries in the hobby grade Radio control models. I have been maintaining lithium polymer and lithium ion cells for about a decade. So I would like to compile some tips for everyone.
1) Heat. Heat causes the most damage to lithium based batteries. Leaving your phone in direct sunlight, as most of us know can cause your device to catch fire, or even explode. Water is useless in extinguishing a lithium fire. Lithium cells will burn under water. This isn't new info to most of us, but I mention heat mainly for these reasons;
A) rapid charging causes increased heat in the cell. This increased heat degrades the cell, causing reduced cycle life. This is significantly more concerning on modern phones without removable or replaceable cells. Therefore you should avoid rapid charging unless it's absolutely necessary. Especially overnight. If your sleeping then there's no reason to rapid charge.
2) Voltages. Voltages are also very important, but since these are managed automatically you don't need to be overly concerned about them.
A) 3.0v this is the minimum voltage at which your charger will still recharge the cell. Most phones will shut off at 3.3v or 3.2v. This is your 0% charge level. The reason this is significant is that once your phone shuts down from a dead battery it is important to recharge it within a reasonable timeframe. It may take a week or 2 for the cell to drop those last few tenths of a volt, but once it does it's over.
That said, it is good to completely drain your battery occasionally because this helps the OS calibrate a more accurate battery charge percentage.
B) 4.2v is fully charged. This is your 100% charge level.
C) 3.7v is the best voltage for cell storage. This is approximately 50% charge. That is why your phone is usually about half charged when it is unboxed. (But who stores their phone lol)
So the important takeaway from all of this is, avoid rapid charging when you can, and once your phone dies, recharge it soon after. -Chris
Not bad. Got me through the day. ~4 hrs sot
Too early to tell. I had like 3.30 SOT. After a couple of charge cycles it's getting interesting.
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So far averaging 19 hours battery with around 2 1/2 hours screen on
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I went through 16 hrs of my average use and had 39% battery left before calling it a day. That's at least 30% more than what I was squeezing out my Note 4 on 6.0.1. Idling overnight for 7 hrs the battery went down only 4%.
I'm really impressed so far!
People getting 6+ hours SOT, can you let us know what your setup is like? Are you disabling stuff? Running dark theme?
Thanks!
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People getting 6+ hours SOT, can you let us know what your setup is like? Are you disabling stuff? Running dark theme?
Thanks!
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If the question is for me....yeah, Material Dark Theme. Nova Launcher, no stuff disabled (Wi-FI/Loc/BT etc.). No app power saving. Hi resolution. I run "Optimize" once in the Device Maintenance menu.
I'll post a stats screenshot at the end of the day
I don't really trust any battery benchmarks right now..... the phones are all brand new...... lets all wait about 12 months and re-check them; While compared to the Note 3 my Note 7 replaced I am generally happy with the upgrade to the Note 7, the sealed battery is really pissing me off. I was using the Zero Lemon 10,000 mah batteries on the Note 3. I can almost gamble that the battery in the Note 7 will be useless in 12-24 months depending on usage and then we are stuck with $800 bricks unless someone figures out how to safely open the phone so we can replace the battery on our own.
Yesterday I had 7.2 hours of SOT. First few days were a little less, due to initial geek out, setup, testing. Seems on par with the my Note 5 and S7e.
What this shows me, is that I need to spend much less time in front of a phone's display....
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For how I use the phone, I can easily get over 7 hours SOT....with 10% or more left. Yeah... I disable all the Sammy/Tmo bloatware I can....as well as Lookout, Android Pay, Facebook stuff...and a few others. I always use Nova 3.3 (the last before they switched to the horrible white themes of LP & MM) and I've been using a minimal black theme from the Sammy store, that has the color rings around some icons. Love it. I don't use auto brightness...and normally have it about 30-40%. I also don't ever use NFC, so it's disabled. I rarely use bluetooth....and i don't do any gaming really. I imagine if you're doing those things...battery life will suffer a bit.
Though I definitely think it helps to have an all black theme going. Settings, dialer, app drawer....solid black. And don't have the screen too bright of course.
I don't know how good or bad it will be but in my opinnion it's going to be average and its a note so i'll be using the phone a lot. I just bought the wireless charging case from the T-Mobile store i work at My coral blue comes tomorrow !!!
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Yesterday I had 7.2 hours of SOT. First few days were a little less, due to initial geek out, setup, testing. Seems on par with the my Note 5 and S7e.
What this shows me, is that I need to spend much less time in front of a phone's display....
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For how I use the phone, I can easily get over 7 hours SOT....with 10% or more left. Yeah... I disable all the Sammy/Tmo bloatware I can....as well as Lookout, Android Pay, Facebook stuff...and a few others. I always use Nova 3.3 (the last before they switched to the horrible white themes of LP & MM) and I've been using a minimal black theme from the Sammy store, that has the color rings around some icons. Love it. I don't use auto brightness...and normally have it about 30-40%. I also don't ever use NFC, so it's disabled. I rarely use bluetooth....and i don't do any gaming really. I imagine if you're doing those things...battery life will suffer a bit.
Though I definitely think it helps to have an all black theme going. Settings, dialer, app drawer....solid black. And don't have the screen too bright of course.
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Umm so basically you just use it to browse and send emails etc?
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Umm so basically you just use it to browse and send emails etc?
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That and a lot of pics and video...and this may sound crazy, but I actually use it as a phone too During hikes and bike rides, I use it as a fitness/gps tracker....and I stream a bunch to Chromecast/TV. Battery drain is amazingly low while streaming to Chromecast.
Guys I just got this phone through the Nexus 6p RMA I got a pixel xl 32gb and I just wanted to share something positive. Today using the phone for the first full day I got 7 hours of screen on time with 7 percent battery remaining. I'm shocked I've never seen better battery life or even close from any other phone. Nexus 6p in the beginning managed 5 hours sot sometimes but it degraded fast and pretty much got 4 or less for my 2 years with it so 7 hours is such a blessing. I love this phone.
I'll attach some pics I took before but didn't end up taking a picture at 7% but you can extrapolate from the photos.
Yes, but remember as a general rule it's a lot better when on wifi. It isn't as good on cellular only. Just a fact of life. I can get six+ hours SOT on wifi but only about five off it.
Good to hear...I did the same RMA.
Loving this phone. I can't believe it went under the radar.
I was using an iPhone 7 Plus...but can't see myself going back...that one might be for sale soon lol.
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Ditto! RMA nexus6p for Pixel XL and it's battery and smoothness is awesome! ??
My 6P was so awful on battery I had chargers everywhere plus carried a big portable power pack.
With my new XL I have to remember Not to plug it in. Night/Day.
I am also a newer adapter of this phone and I've had it about 2 weeks. This is my battery life from 2 days ago with heavy YouTube usage. Rooted Oreo, no custom kernel, just greenify on a few apps. So much better than my Note 5, which topped out at 2hrs 50 minutes. Not to mention, this phone is way smoother and flies in terms of apps opening, really impressed with this phone.
Awesome.
Just found out that Facebook Messenger destroys battery life on Android..
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Yes. The Pixel XL is by far the best battery life phone I have had in a long time (the previous champ was my the Samsung Fascinate 3G from years ago.)
On 7.1.2...freaking amazing battery life. Then I got the 8.0 update and that had lower battery life. Less screen on time. Many users reported this. Buddy of mine also had noticed the same thing.
The Sept 8.0 update then came out and now its back to the awesome battery life it had before.
As an aside. Where can I get a good tutorial on how to set up Greenify's treatment of the various apps on my phone? By itself, it's not immediately obvious what I should be doing to the various apps.
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As an aside. Where can I get a good tutorial on how to set up Greenify's treatment of the various apps on my phone? By itself, it's not immediately obvious what I should be doing to the various apps.
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Why would u even want to use Greenify and such apps now?...O is far superior to previous versions with its Doze mode and app suspend processes..
Battery life is average at best, Still to beat my Nexus 6 or S7 Edge on MM here im getting a day or less standby with a meh 5hr sot
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Why would u even want to use Greenify and such apps now?...O is far superior to previous versions with its Doze mode and app suspend processes..
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I didn't realize Oreo is so superior. In fact, I get worse battery life than I did on Nougat.
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I didn't realize Oreo is so superior. In fact, I get worse battery life than I did on Nougat.
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It was worse ...the first 8.0 update. The latest updates fixed that for me and buddy of mine. I read there was an issue with Google play services app older version eating battery. that updated with the last ota and its been great. I have very few apps on my phone though. i do know that FB and especially FB messenger...and probably many other apps are not quite optimized for Oreo yet and will eat battery in the background and its not shown in the battery stats. U can go into the system app settings now and disable certain apps to run in the background like FB. u wont get notifications for that app but i don't care, i manually check those apps fine.
Battery pretty good. Several times I tried going 24hrs starting at 100%. Essentially get 10hrs screen time over 24hrs with 10% to 15% remaining.
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Battery life is average at best, Still to beat my Nexus 6 or S7 Edge on MM here im getting a day or less standby with a meh 5hr sot
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You're doing something wrong then my guy. I'm here consistently getting 6 to 6.5hrs sot WhatsApp 3 Gmail accounts lots of YouTube and Reddit And other browsing the web
Lol anything beats my Nexus 6p with a 2.5 hour sot if I was lucky!
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Lol anything beats my Nexus 6p with a 2.5 hour sot if I was lucky!
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Forget the 6p. We had amazing battery life before this update. Then sot dropped like a rock. Screen off.. amazing. After O screen on time was half. Literally half. Same synching, same everything. Half sot! How else can I say it?
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Forget the 6p. We had amazing battery life before this update. Then sot dropped like a rock. Screen off.. amazing. After O screen on time was half. Literally half. Same synching, same everything. Half sot! How else can I say it?
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SOT sucks. I have it back up to 6.25 hours, but it's still not up to Nougat standards. It's either the increased performance sucking CPU or the screen itself is using more. I don't buy the updated apps for Oreo theory.
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SOT sucks. I have it back up to 6.25 hours, but it's still not up to Nougat standards. It's either the increased performance sucking CPU or the screen itself is using more. I don't buy the updated apps for Oreo theory.
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I also agree Oreo has horrible battery life not close no nougat. I have tried every kernel i could get my hands on.
I wonder if they did this crap on purpose so people would buy the pixel 2
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I also agree Oreo has horrible battery life not close no nougat. I have tried every kernel i could get my hands on.
I wonder if they did this crap on purpose so people would buy the pixel 2
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Some have said it was Play services but others say no. Some have said it's the display driver on O. Either way I hope they come out with a fix if this is not some dastardly scheme. Very disappointing. I never had to charge my phone during the day and now I do. I was going to buy a 2 but now I'm on hold with that until this is fixed.
Hello,
I am an LG fan (mainly due to the always-on display and the reliable tap to wake/sleep functions which I find tremendously useful) and since the G7 was launched (too big of a phone and too small battery for my needs) I decided that the G6 may actually fit my needs better due to being smaller and having a bigger battery (and the perfectly flat screen of the G6 which allows me to use an invisible tempered glass protector).
But I'm worried about battery life, especially stand-by. I need a phone that lasts 2 days with like 2-3h of SOT (I don't use the phone much but I really need it to have low standby drain). From what I read until now, the standby drain is a bit of a hit and miss with the G6...
I was wondering if the new Oreo release brings any improvements in standby drain ? Does anyone have experience with it ?
Thanks !
Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...
call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise
Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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You may have some bad apps. I never loose more than 3-5% over night with wifi on.
i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.
That has been my experience with other phones as well. Even if some new battery saving technique is built into the new OS, it is more than compensated for by the bloat of the new OS and updated apps, which have more services running in the background.
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call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise
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Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...
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On average, people in this forum have been reporting idle battery drain of 2-3% per hour. However there is quite a bit of variation both day to day in the same device and between devices. You have been one of the lucky ones, most likely having nothing to do with what apps or settings you do or don't use. 2 seperate threads have been devoted to dealing with the problem, but nothing consistently helps. Most likely either a hardware issue, like the radio cycling hi or low power, or something in Nougat that LG might or might not fix (according to the post above they did not...)
Regarding "misbehaving" apps-- basically almost every useful app has that potential, since so much functionality of the smartphone revolves around the ability to multitask or run in the background. So if you want to leave the phone with only stock apps, install nothing, and block all syncing, reminders or notifications, I'm sure you can modestly reduce the idle drain, but so what? It negates the whole point of the smartphone... I remember I could get a whole week out of my Nokia 3150 candybar phone
I'd be interested to learn which apps you have and what settings you changed.
I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...
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i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.
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Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?
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Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
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I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...
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Interesting that there are such huge differences between users. I do have a few ad supported apps, maybe that explains part of the difference.
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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I loose around 5% with wifi on and have pretty good signal on wifi and mobile data. I listen to music for 30 minutes before sleeping with external bluetooth speakers. But BT is disabling automatically after that.
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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Hello everyone! how do you reach certain levels of autonomy? I have a few apps on my smartphone and yet I dream of your values, how do you do it? do you have any special settings? have you run any particular command in ADB? I noticed that my phone is particularly slow on startup and once turned on (with 0 apps open) it has a use of RAM. more than 50%, is it normal?
thank you
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jshames said:
1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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screen saver is the issue
setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.
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Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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When I leave mine at 100% charge before going to bed at night, it's still at 100% the morning after. So, a 1% change the whole night is not bad (nor extra-ordinary).
I have my wifi and bluetooth always on. But I don't have the screen at "always on" setting. My email sync settings are on "smart" mode. Other installed apps which may run in the background are News app, GroupMe, My Data Manager, and NetGuard.
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setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.
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That's strange. That setting is supposed to apply only when the phone is plugged in
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Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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10 months old H870DS, HKG firmware, no battery degradation because with nougat I charged it at 1.5 to 2 days. 2 SIM cards standby, 4G networks, active use of the phone and I was getting around 3h SOT with a 20-24h standby. Now after Oreo I'm getting max 2.5, under 3h SOT with the same 24h standby. I did a factory reset after upgrading via LG Bridge, and did a upgrade with LG UP and kdz V20a - no change at all. I suppose that the system is draining more battery than it should under use.View attachment 4526726
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