Pro or 16gb? - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys. I have an Amazon fire tv box at the moment. Fully rooted and running some good media stuff. I am selling and upgrading to a sheild tv. My question is this. Which model should I go for? From a rooting point of view, is the 500gb model just the same to do. I have read posts talking of difficulties. If I buy the 16gb model and use an external hdd, is this the same as a pro model? I understand you can use external as internal now? Could someone enlighten me?

16gb of course... Best speed... And yes with the adoptative storage... I got a 500gb external hdd usb 3.0 as internal, no problems.. A cheapest option for more internal storage.

Largewoodenspoon said:
Hi guys. I have an Amazon fire tv box at the moment. Fully rooted and running some good media stuff. I am selling and upgrading to a sheild tv. My question is this. Which model should I go for? From a rooting point of view, is the 500gb model just the same to do. I have read posts talking of difficulties. If I buy the 16gb model and use an external hdd, is this the same as a pro model? I understand you can use external as internal now? Could someone enlighten me?
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Personally I recommend the 16GB
however, if you plan to use a lot of internal storage and dont want to mess with figuring out adoptive storage then the 500GB pro would benefit you.
(adoptive storage really inst that difficult in my opinion and works really well making the 16GB far more appealing but since so many people have been having issues with it I thought it should be noted)
Shield Pro:
Pros:
the 500gb is always seen as internal storage
No need to use adoptive storage unless you are putting massive amounts of offline media on it
No real need to use external storage except for transferring files to it.
Cons:
The 500GB hard drive is a normal hard disk which does make a little noise, this bothers some people.
Early models had some issues with defective hard drives
Some people report slight performance issues compared to the 16GB model which they attribute to the hard disk
Bottom line: the Pro is going to be easier to use all around if you plan to install a lot of games or offline media but it is noisier and may have some performance stutters, also note that there were some earlier models with hard drive failure. nvidia has been great about replacing them but it should be noted.
Shield 16GB
Pros:
Smoother performance (Per some reports)
Cheaper
No defective hard drive issues since it doesn't have a hard drive.
Quieter
Adoptive storage in 6.0 gives the option to bridge the storage gap with the pro. (There are some cons to this though, see below)
When using fast external storage media as adoptive storage in my experience there have been no performance issues whatsoever.
Cons:
only 16GB of internal space
When installing multiple large games you will need to use adoptive storage
To use adoptive storage you will need to either purchase an additional SD card, OTG drive or hard disk unless you have one with good write speeds laying around.
if using slower memory as adoptive storage there are some very definite performance issues.
Bottom line: if you wont be installing many large games at the same time and use external storage for music, videos and Game Roms then this model is a no brainer being the cheaper option with generally better performance and no risk of a defective hard drive.
however, if you want to install a lot of large games to it and otherwise heavily use adoptive storage then you have to be very careful to make sure you understand how it works and what you need or it can be a headache. (you can tell this pretty easily reading through the forums with so many people complaining about it) in my own experience it works pretty well though as long as you understand what you are getting into.

I have both and never had a single issue with either... until the 3.0 update... but thats another story... in my experience, they perform the same in regards to the x1 chip... ive never heard the HDD in the pro model and i was a day one adopter... the list above is comprehensive and pretty much hits the nail on the head, but i just wanted to chime in and say that ive never heard the HDD spinning on my pro model.

If the pro model also has emmc for OS and only uses the HD as storage, I'd consider the Pro model. Unfortunately SATV Pro uses the HD for OS and it's impossible for users to clone the HD. HDs are likely to fail sooner than emmcs and make the SATV pro a waste.
SATV should have a standard SATA interface for storage and emmc for OS like the Jetson TX1.

I see little benefit in getting a pro now. If you want the absolute fastest in terms of storage you may as well get an external usb3 ssd and use that as adoptable storage
I'll be honest I didn't consider the pro as it was $100 more expensive for the 500gb hd which is an absolute rip off. If it was $50 I would have probably got one. Depends how OCD you are about clutter, personally I don't mind using an external HD.

Ok thanks guys. I just ordered the 16gb model. Do you think I need the extra stick remote?
First thing I'm gonna do is root it.
Should I upgrade to latest 3 software? And flash a Custom rom?
I've read that something weird happens with the controller not working?
Anyway I'm very excited and consider it an upgrade from my Amazon fire tv box. I hope!?

Largewoodenspoon said:
Ok thanks guys. I just ordered the 16gb model. Do you think I need the extra stick remote?
First thing I'm gonna do is root it.
Should I upgrade to latest 3 software? And flash a Custom rom?
I've read that something weird happens with the controller not working?
Anyway I'm very excited and consider it an upgrade from my Amazon fire tv box. I hope!?
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I would recommend the remote, though it is a bit pricey for what it does.
The biggest place its come in handy for me is when I pair a Bluetooth device (Mouse, other controller etc.) the controller always seems to disconnect for some reason and wont let me hit the "Pair" button.
The remote never has connectivity issues for me and so I can always just grab it and hit the "Pair" button and worry about getting the controller reconnected later.
I also tend to use it when I'm watching movies using headphones because I can plug the headphones into the remote.
this can be done with the controller as well but it has three small benefits that I've found over using the controller:
1. its smaller and lighter than the controller so you can slip it in your pocket and still hear what's going on if you need to run to the kitchen in the middle of a movie or something.
2. it doesn't have any lights where the controller has lights that stay on all the time (Nvidia shield logo, home, start, back etc.) which can be a bit of an annoyance watching movies in the dark.
3. the buttons are much harder to accidentally press
It can also be used as a controller in some games which is a plus for some (I prefer the controller myself but my wife far prefers the remote for simple games like badlands and dragon fly)
I love it and would recommend it for the reasons above but for some people its probably redundant since the controller can perform all of the same functions.
so if the price isn't an issue I would go for it hands down, but if you were planning on using the money for something more pressing (a second controller or more storage etc.) your money may be better off used elsewhere.

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[Q] Which version (16 or 32 GB) is the better fit?

Hi everyone,
I would be interested in some opinions as up until now I never had a tablet.
The question is how much storage you need as now both versions are available at the PlayStore (US) and I am totally unsure which version is the better choice. As I never had a tablet before, I do not know how much data you normally save on such a device. As it has no cellular, it has to be most of the time in the surrounding of Wifi, so space for video streaming and music would not be such a problem (what about a flight trip and some movies?). On the other hand, I hear that a lot of people think that even 32 GB are too small as there are nowadays games for Android that consume up to 2-3 GB. If I am really a gaming person is additionally questionable, most of the times I just have no time for that. But if several users might use that device (in my case probably just one, but maybe in the future up to 3 people), then storage can be again a bottleneck.
What I have in mind for usage would be mainly using that device for reading pdf files for research and browsing and streaming of videos. What functions and by that space I might use when I experience the possibilities of that device is difficult to say.
(Additionally, I will buy a Nexus 4 16GB and probably signing up for GoogleDrive and GoogleMusic as especially on my mobile phone I see a need for sufficient space).
I appreciate your help.
I travel a lot. Flying and hotels are not so bad, I usually have access to some sort of WiFi connection at the terminals and hotels, so I'm only "dead" when in the air, and worst case I can "load" my tablet in-flight from my laptop (which I've done on those long flights to Europe and Asia).
But I also like to take long camping tours on my motorcycle, where many times cellular isn't available, let alone WiFi, and bringing along my laptop would take too much space.
And that's where I feel the storage pinch of a 16Gb device. My Tab 8.9 is 16Gb, and while it's a great tablet (for its time), the lack of storage means it requires more forethought before travelling, and a lot more "shuffling" of files on and off to "freshen" my music, video and ebook libraries, or packing around the external SD card reader, which is clunky and a bit slow.
Same problem with my old N7 16Gb, which I just replaced with a 32Gb. And the other problem is that the Nexus 7's USB port is so fragile that I fear breaking it with a USB2Go dongle stressing it, along with it being clunky.
And that's why I ordered the 32Gb N10, and why I didn't even think about buying a N4. Sure, $100 is a steep price to pay for the extra storage, but for me it's worth it for the lack of hassles.
And for those that say USB2Go will solve the problem for them, you should factor in the cost of a decent USB stick/card reader/SDcard and USB2Go adapter if you don't already have them...then that $100 difference will shrink quite a bit.
By the sounds of it you'll only want the extra space when going away/out of wifi access e.g.trains, aeroplanes etc.
I am in a similar situation and settled on a 16GB. I have now confirmed that I can access films from a USB drive and will be purchasing a 64GB USB stick for those times when i'm away from home. This will give me a much higher total storage space than 32GB and will only cost ~£50.
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By the sounds of it you'll only want the extra space when going away/out of wifi access e.g.trains, aeroplanes etc.
I am in a similar situation and settled on a 16GB. I have now confirmed that I can access films from a USB drive and will be purchasing a 64GB USB stick for those times when i'm away from home. This will give me a much higher total storage space than 32GB and will only cost ~£50.
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For me it's always better to have extra storage space. I had the 64GB ASUS prime and on top of it I had bought 16GB microSD card to put music and ebooks. This time I ordered a 16GB since that's what was available on Google store and received it yesterday but by then 32GB was available, so I ordered one. I really wish there was a microSD slot for expansion !
I admit having an sd slot would be nice, but not that much of an inconvenience to plug a usb in when you need that extra storage
I only ever have multiple movies on my tablet when I'm on vacation and while I do have some HD games installed, I hardly ever play them. That being said I never had a problem with my 16 GB tablets. At home I can easily stream movies with Emit and I can always delete music I don't want to listen to at the time if I ever come close to the size limit but you can fix that by using Google Music, which you said is your plan anyways. I'd say save the $100 and spend it on something else. You can always get a USB drive and an OTG cable for longer trips. It's really not that inconvenient to transfer a few files and then pack the USB drive away again.
even considered the seagate satellite portable drive. 500GB battery powered drive with wifi capabilities so no cables. But dont think i could stream 1080p from it smoothly

[Q] External Storage

Hello,
I'm thinking about getting the Nexus 10, currently have an iPad 2 but the screen of googles tablet is just too tempting.
One of the things I want to use it for is viewing media, I'll be getting the 16gb version and I'm a little bit worried the storage will get filled up pretty quickly. I have about 75gb worth of dropbox storage but was wondering if there's anything I could use if there's no wifi?
I'm thinking of just a small flash drive to plug into the microUSB port with loads of films on it, basically like a usb drive but compatible with the nexus 10, is there anything out there that'll do that?
Cheers.
There are ways to make that happen but you will need to root your device. This can be done with the use of apps, or with a custom rom but definitely possible. gaming...I don't think you can yet. mainly because its early and 4.2 is still pretty new.
I have no problem rooting the device, was probably going to anyway. I just wanted to know what the best/smallest external storage options were?
Maybe this thread would be better in the Accessories thread.
so many threads on this already, have possibilities of micro sd, sd, usb thumbdrive, some portable hdd enclosures and wireless hdds.
Dont need to be rooted, just use nexus media importer
64GB class 10 microSDXC should do the trick, they come with super small USB converters. Too bad for the lack of microUSB microSD reader, how much money one could make off it!
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64GB class 10 microSDXC should do the trick, they come with super small USB converters. Too bad for the lack of microUSB microSD reader, how much money one could make off it!
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Making one :laugh:
Shame the reader only support sdhc so max 32gb cards for me, but can get a few!

[Q] [Answered] 16 GB Model + Cloud Storage / External HDD Enough?

Is there anyone who has a 16GB version of the Nexus or has had a 16GB tablet who can comment on the space availability?
Things I will be using the tablet for are mostly education related -- jotting notes on PDFs, web browsing, email, and likely occasional netflix/movie streaming. Was thinking maybe a few games simply because I don't want to waste the resolution abilities of the tablet, might be nice to game once in a while.
I was concerned about the size of apps overall taking up space, but I was also wondering if there are ways to attach external HDDs to the nexus? I was thinking that with cloud storage, 16GB would be enough but would like to ask the community what their experience was...
Thanks
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Is there anyone who has a 16GB version of the Nexus or has had a 16GB tablet who can comment on the space availability?
Things I will be using the tablet for are mostly education related -- jotting notes on PDFs, web browsing, email, and likely occasional netflix/movie streaming. Was thinking maybe a few games simply because I don't want to waste the resolution abilities of the tablet, might be nice to game once in a while.
I was concerned about the size of apps overall taking up space, but I was also wondering if there are ways to attach external HDDs to the nexus? I was thinking that with cloud storage, 16GB would be enough but would like to ask the community what their experience was...
Thanks
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I just did a clean wipe and checked my space. It was at 13GB (before any app installs)
For your needs you should do just fine with a 16gb. And yes, you can use usb storage options such as lash drives.
I have the 16gb and while it's mostly for surfing the web, i have about 15 games installed, about 20 apps, 2 whole tv series (not in HD as they are cartoon/animation so no need) and a failm that is about 2.5gb, and some music. I've still 2gb+ left and almost 9gb of the used space is media which can always be replaced or removed. Even for media use, my tablet is a home tablet that will ocassionally be taken out and about, with foresight, but if it's one that you want to take out and about and keep out and about, then you might want either the 32gb or more economically a simple OTG cable and flash drive/sd card and reader.
Thanks for the input. I went ahead and ordered the 16 GB model. I just figured between cloud storage and managing my media files I should be fine. My HTC One X has 16 GB of storage and I haven't had any problems with space. Really looking forward to my first tablet!
I also have a 16gb and I think its fine. Also have otg cable and elago 32gb microsd for movies, etc....
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Once I get my device I'm going to work on getting an OTG cable and experiment with that. Never used one before but seems like a great solution for less space on the device
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TheEmpyre said:
Once I get my device I'm going to work on getting an OTG cable and experiment with that. Never used one before but seems like a great solution for less space on the device
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You should be aware that external storage via an OTG cable will only work using an app like this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer&hl=en
If you want to use the extra storage in the same way you would use the internal storage, you will need to root the device. See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001868

Ordered mine.... what now?

Hello fellow Humans,
I ordered my shield TV this weekend directly from nvidia and should get it this week! :victory:
I was wondering if there is something I should do like avoiding updates that block rooting or something like that. I know that on Amazon's Fire TV and sticks rooting is not possible due to updates.... is there maybe anything else like Hardware related that I should keep an eye on? When it comes to the Shield TV I'm a total noob. I would simply like to know what I definitely should and shouldn't do.
chieco said:
Hello fellow Humans,
I ordered my shield TV this weekend directly from nvidia and should get it this week! :victory:
I was wondering if there is something I should do like avoiding updates that block rooting or something like that. I know that on Amazon's Fire TV and sticks rooting is not possible due to updates.... is there maybe anything else like Hardware related that I should keep an eye on? When it comes to the Shield TV I'm a total noob. I would simply like to know what I definitely should and shouldn't do.
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Standard or Pro model?
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Standard or Pro model?
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I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?
chieco said:
I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?
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I think the free remote is being offered everywhere. Yes the 16 gig is probably fine if you're not a heavy gamer. I don't have access to the 500GB hard drive which makes it somewhat useless and it also might be one of the recall unites. The headset seems to work fine I would love to try it with a microphone if they had any multiplayer android games.
chieco said:
I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?
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I have the 16 GB also and have have a NAS like you, with 11 TB in it The shield does have a MicroSD and and two USB ports so you can add TONS of external storage, also Marshmallow (whenever Nvidia finally releases it) will suppport external storage as native storage, you can already store stuff on the MicroSD but not on the HDD. I currently have a 64 GB MicroSD and a 500 GB HDD connected to mine, I have a bunch of ROMs on the external HDD for RetroArch. Even though the Shield is touted as a gaming machine, I rarely play games on it, not because it sucks at gaming, mostly because I don't find a lot of the indie games that interesting and I find the Steam and GeForce experience apps useless for me since my PC is literally right next to my TV, so an HDMI connection to my TV from my PC is far better than going throught the Shield. Nvidia GameStream is pretty cool though and as cheap as Netflix, but once again there aren't a lot of interesting titles to me. I mostly just use it for Netflix and Kodi.
IMO root doesn't really add much to it, I took the plunge and rooted my first one (The v1.4 update bricked it) and then was like "now what?" there aren't really any custom kernels for it (that I know of, haven't really been active in this section in a while) and it lacks a lot of the normal root apps that one would find in the play store. If you want to use "normal" Android then that's a different story, I put normal Android on mine....and hated it. I'm perfectly happy with it using the stock Android TV build, which is extremely odd because I usually immediately root and flash a custom ROM to any Android device I get. Also getting into the bootloader/recovery menu is a MAJOR pain in the a$$ since there aren't any physical buttons on it, just the single capacitive button on top and you have to do a morse code-like tapping of that button to get into the recovery from a cold boot. Most annoying thing ever.
The only gripe I have with the Shield is that there isn't an on/off switch on the controller so I have to charge mine like every other day or so because it constantly stays on when I'm not using it. It seems to have a mind of it's own because sometimes it will stay on for an hour when untouched, other times it will turn off after 10 minutes of not being used.
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brando56894 said:
Marshmallow (whenever Nvidia finally releases it) will suppport external storage as native storage, you can already store stuff on the MicroSD but not on the HDD
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yeah saw that advertised in the official nvidia announcement video on youtube.
I currently have a 64 GB MicroSD
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was also planing to put my good old 64gb microsd card from my note 3 days in there which currently isn't used.
Even though the Shield is touted as a gaming machine, I rarely play games on it
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I also don't plan on gaming on it very much. I heard someone in a unboxing video mentioning that there is a Free 3 Months trail for their game streaming service maybe I use that trail but after looking up the titles online doesn't seem that much interesting.
Maybe some psx, psp, gamecube/wii emulation.
I mostly just use it for Netflix and Kodi.
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Yes Kodi was the reason why I got the Shield. I wanted the best possible experience for it.
IMO root doesn't really add much to it
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My main question regarding was that I was wondering if there is a certain FW or Build or something that would block all rooting. Right now I can't think of a reason for rooting the Shield but who knows maybe some App in the future needs root access.
Would I be out of luck if I would update my Shield to the most up to date FW? I would like to know. Or does it not matter on which FW I am and still root my Shield even with future updates?
I doubt anything would block root on it, Nvidia and Google seem to be pretty open about hacking it, they seem to treat it like a Nexus device (they provide system images for it and the bootloader is easily unlockable via the standard method) so I wouldn't really be worried about losing root in the future. We'll probably be seeing some new awesome games for it in the near future since Vulkan was officially released a few days ago (it's a low-overhead, bare metal, cross-platform GPU API) and Nvidia has already implemented it, along with Google and Valve (Steam).
I just ordered one as well. I'm currently using a Nexus Player, and it's not too bad, I just can't help knowing I'll have better results with everything with 3 gb vs 1 gb of ram. Having said that, I've used all of them at this point, and unlocking/rooting this will be closer to unlocking a Google device than the amazon fire. Unlocking that was one ridiculous task. The upside to rooting would be the ability to side load some apps and others like ad away, which could help out with folder apps (for example, EXFile explorer) and Youtube.

Worth adding USB 3 SSD? (Shield 16GB Darcy)

I just recently picked up a Darcy (love it). I got it for $169 w/ controller and remote, so it was a good deal which is why I didn't buy the Pro at $299. It's now time for me to add adoptable storage and I'm trying to figure out which route to go. I'm looking at a 500GB Samsung T5 USB 3.1 SSD for $169 which is also a great deal. Read/Write speeds at 540MB but how much of that speed am I going to see on Android? If I get half of that I'd be happy. A 256GB USB 3 Patriot Flash Drive is $115 with speed of 400MB/200MB - read/write. (Which I doubt I'll see even close to that). So technically the price per GB is better with the SSD. But will the Shield utilize any of these options at their potential? Perhaps I'd be better off going with a USB 3 hdd if it weren't for the fact that I don't want to hear it spin when things are quiet. Can someone tell me based on their setup with a USB 3 SSD what it's actually read/write is on a Shield? I could really use some advice based on personal experience here. Thanks.
I'm using a SanDisk 128gb USB 3.1 drive as internal storage and a 1tb Toshiba external HD USB 3.1.
I didn't test the read write speeds but I had both installed since February and no issues for me.
On the USB adapted as internal obviously the mainb programs are installed there.
On the external HD I have all my Roms from Spectrum to all the SEGA console, PSP, PS, Nintendo etc and this never affects performance of Emulation from what I can tell.
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Anybody out there with a USB 3 SSD?
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I'm using a SanDisk 128gb USB 3.1 drive as internal storage and a 1tb Toshiba external HD USB 3.1.
I didn't test the read write speeds but I had both installed since February and no issues for me.
On the USB adapted as internal obviously the mainb programs are installed there.
On the external HD I have all my Roms from Spectrum to all the SEGA console, PSP, PS, Nintendo etc and this never affects performance of Emulation from what I can tell.
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did you eventually benchmark the speed of your disk?
A1 SD Bench is a great tool as it works with remote
DJarkIV said:
I just recently picked up a Darcy (love it). I got it for $169 w/ controller and remote, so it was a good deal which is why I didn't buy the Pro at $299. It's now time for me to add adoptable storage and I'm trying to figure out which route to go. I'm looking at a 500GB Samsung T5 USB 3.1 SSD for $169 which is also a great deal. .
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You have indeed made a wise purchase and even more so with not purchasing the pro.
Your setup is perfect and with the T5 used as adoptive storage mixed ...Your machine vs the pro version now become`s a Beast compared to the pro .
You have far greater performance and also the added bonus of pure flexibility. The best of both worlds.
You can use the Samsung T5 as both adoptive and also a separate storage hard drive. Take a look at the threads below and set up the USB SSD as a mixed drive via SM command. You can do any combination you need . So effectively you will have 2: partitions on the SSD-T5 ..... 1 : for adoptive storage and 1: for everything else, via the mixed option and in any capacity you prefer.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...speedy-ideas-and-adoptable-drive-decryption-/
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...reasing-your-storage-in-android-7-0-nougat/7/
Best Regards,
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You have indeed made a wise purchase and even more so with not purchasing the pro.
Your setup is perfect and with the T5 used as adoptive storage mixed ...Your machine vs the pro version now become`s a Beast compared to the pro .
You have far greater performance and also the added bonus of pure flexibility. The best of both worlds.
You can use the Samsung T5 as both adoptive and also a separate storage hard drive. Take a look at the threads below and set up the USB SSD as a mixed drive via SM command. You can do any combination you need . So effectively you will have 2: partitions on the SSD-T5 ..... 1 : for adoptive storage and 1: for everything else, via the mixed option and in any capacity you prefer.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...speedy-ideas-and-adoptable-drive-decryption-/
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...reasing-your-storage-in-android-7-0-nougat/7/
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Hey thanks, for the info. That will come in handy because I can use the other partition to duel boot into a sock nougat ROM. Zulu wrote a guide online how to use Flashify to boot sock Android from an external SSD while keeping Nvidia experience on the main 16GB internal storage. Also not sure if you know but if you're rooted you can take the 6.3 OTA and it will, to my surprise, validate and install. You will loose root but only need to flash SuperSU or Magisk again and you're back to normal.
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Hey thanks, for the info. That will come in handy because I can use the other partition to duel boot into a sock nougat ROM. Zulu wrote a guide online how to use Flashify to boot sock Android from an external SSD while keeping Nvidia experience on the main 16GB internal storage. .
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Hi mate, Any further info on this Zulu ROM and installation and where to find such info (reliable links) would be greatly appreciated.
I like the sound of this duel boot setup.
Best Regards,
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Hi mate, Any further info on this Zulu ROM and installation and where to find such info (reliable links) would be greatly appreciated.
I like the sound of this duel boot setup.
Best Regards,
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Here ya go, https://www.google.com/amp/s/androidtv.news/2016/08/dual-boot-android-android-tv/amp/
On that page is the basic concept, a link to a video of it being done and a link to the instructions. It's not the easiest thing to do but you will ultimately be using Flashify to switch the kernel at will which upon reboot will select the partition that boots up. I personally have not done this yet but I know it's been confirmed working and plan on trying it myself down the line. I just updated to 6.3 so i will have to wait for the factory images to be released before attempting it. Best of luck.
Thank you for the info.. .I have had my shield since Jan 2nd and it is still residing in the box unopened .
I am still unsure which way to go , So this is a process I will keep in mind and bookmark for future reference when a eventually find the time to setup.
Thanks again for your time and help.
Best Regards,
polosolo said:
Thank you for the info.. .I have had my shield since Jan 2nd and it is still residing in the box unopened .
I am still unsure which way to go , So this is a process I will keep in mind and bookmark for future reference when a eventually find the time to setup.
Thanks again for your time and help.
Best Regards,
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I can tell you right now that Android TV ROM is the way to go as the daily driver. The stock ROM is great for all your entertainment needs, stable and easily controlled with the remote. Full Android ROM is fun to toy with or secondary boot to if you don't mind using a keyboard/mouse to control it. It's obviously not meant for TV's. My only gripe about Android TV is the lack of apps supported or made compatible for it so the play store is limited. But if you root you can run Titanium backup, install BusyBox if needed (etc). Chrome browser also works (you'll have to get outside of play store but once installed it will update via play store), various file explorers and Aptoid for all the apps you can't find on play store. Basically, where there is a will there is a way. Have fun.
DJarkIV said:
I can tell you right now that Android TV ROM is the way to go as the daily driver. The stock ROM is great for all your entertainment needs, stable and easily controlled with the remote. Full Android ROM is fun to toy with or secondary boot to if you don't mind using a keyboard/mouse to control it. It's obviously not meant for TV's. My only gripe about Android TV is the lack of apps supported or made compatible for it so the play store is limited. But if you root you can run Titanium backup, install BusyBox if needed (etc). Chrome browser also works (you'll have to get outside of play store but once installed it will update via play store), various file explorers and Aptoid for all the apps you can't find on play store. Basically, where there is a will there is a way. Have fun.
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Yes I agree, there is no need to try custom roms, despite that I like to play with such things.
I am in the Nvidia Beta programme so that is good reason to stay on official release too.
I have a problem that Chrome does not update from the Play store for me. it gets stuck on continuously downloading so I had to disable auto-update as it blocks all my apps from updating.
Aptoide should update your apps without a hitch. I use it most of the time with my 16gig Shield TV, and another really good one is ACMARKET! They have a modded app section, unlocked apps, no ads, or unlim gold, money, fuel in games etc.
I came here while researching if the Shield TV supports UASP? Can anyone confirm Y/N? I don't think it would make a difference with the Shield TV anyway. The external USB 3.0 case supports it and the SSD is fast enough. Thanks in advance =)
Check out TeaTV and FreeFlix HQ, they are great! ACMARKET has ad free versions too. I use a lightly used ($300 pawnshop bought) Epson EX-9200 Pro wireless in the bedroom with the Shield TV. 120" image on the wall with three coats of a HomeDepot gray, matallic PPG paint. Older $15 GoodWill Yamaha RX-V665 receiver under the bed with a Walmart $5 (clearance section) blue tooth adapter lol. $5 GoodWill Insignia NS-HT51 10" powered sub and cheap common Sony 10" powerswered Sub also from GW for $10 under the bed. 5 RCA surround speakers (not my favorite brand, but does the trick) from GW for $9. Cheap mismatched audio BUT kicks and is loud when nessary =) IF I had a hefty income, I would probably have BOSE everywhere or similar high end. For what I paid for everything though, it sure beats a 55 or 65" TV in the bdrm... I will be striping the paint form the area the projector hits and redoing it with an electric handheld spreyer and even better metallic paint in the future to remove the roller hotspots, picture frame it and add inexpensive wireless remote LED moodlighting strips behind the framing trim. Sorry I got carried away, I enjoy sharing good ideas...
Has anyone done read and write speed tests in MB/s?
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I'm using a SanDisk 128gb USB 3.1 drive as internal storage and a 1tb Toshiba external HD USB 3.1.
I didn't test the read write speeds but I had both installed since February and no issues for me.
On the USB adapted as internal obviously the mainb programs are installed there.
On the external HD I have all my Roms from Spectrum to all the SEGA console, PSP, PS, Nintendo etc and this never affects performance of Emulation from what I can tell.
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I am a new Shield user and discovered adding an external drive as internal means the internal storage is no longer used. Do you know that an external SSD over USB 3.0 is as fast as the internal memory? I have the 16 GB Shield and I have a spare SSD that is not a super fast one, but of course most any SSD is faster than a spin drive.
Yeah, I don't have a spare ssd though and it's a bit overkill for me.
My emulators work just fine from the normal HD.
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