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I'm buying a nexus 7 today? Is there a root process for it, and if so, could someone post a link? Also this forum seems to be a bit different so which section would it be posted in? I'm used to the phone forums and its normally posted in original development. Sorry did being a noob to this device. Any help is appreciated.
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I see so many types of root available. Very confusing. I'm buying one from office depot.
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treIII said:
I see so many types of root available. Very confusing. I'm buying one from office depot.
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This thread will get you what you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816048
fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash either the su binaries or a custom rom using your new recovery, reboot and profit. the method is the same for all nexus devices.
I don't mean to seem ridiculous but isn't there a much simpler method. I'd prefer the easy way out this time of possible. I've done enough with an HTC phone.
I thought they're was a toolkit that made it simple? But I can't find it now.
Oh, and thanks for the responses
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The method outlined is safe, simple and will work on any Nexus device as mentioned. Why not try?
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comminus said:
The method outlined is safe, simple and will work on any Nexus device as mentioned. Why not try?
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I got my son a new laptop. He doesn't want me messing with it. So if I had some small files and deleted them rather than Sdk he'd be happier. Just got to respect his wishes. At least for now..... Will the tool kit work on the new n7 I just purchased and will someone post a url? I can't find it for window 7 64 bit .
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The toolkit will work if you're still on 4.1.2. Once it updated to 4.2.1 I had to download sdk etc etc
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This one claims the latest version works with 4.2.1 but I haven't tried it. I came out after I rooted my n7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
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treIII said:
I don't mean to seem ridiculous but isn't there a much simpler method. I'd prefer the easy way out this time of possible. I've done enough with an HTC phone.
I thought they're was a toolkit that made it simple? But I can't find it now.
Oh, and thanks for the responses
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simms22 said:
fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash either the su binaries or a custom rom using your new recovery, reboot and profit. the method is the same for all nexus devices.
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this ^^^^^^ it really cant get much simpler to root a phone, really
if youre worried about the size of the sdk find adb.exe and fastboot.exe and the drivers you need, a quick search will get you all of the above
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this ^^^^^^ it really cant get much simpler to root a phone, really
if youre worried about the size of the sdk find adb.exe and fastboot.exe and the drivers you need, a quick search will get you all of the above
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This ^^. So much, this. I don't even...
treIII said:
So if I had some small files and deleted them rather than Sdk he'd be happier.
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I've added links for drivers and platform tools (contains adb and fastboot) in my signature. That should make things even easier!
Hello everyone!
I am planning to buy a nexus 4 as soon as it is back in stock. I currently have a gs2 and I realized that it has some amazing Dev support. Most of my phones have been Samsung, so I am most familiar with their development. What I mean is the Odin is an easy one click solution to most problems, and there is even mobile Odin so I can flash on the go!
It is quite amazing, I just flashed a stock ROM to get a GPS lock then back to cm10.1 with no issue, without a computer. These things have saved me on multiple occasions.
My question is, is the development here as advanced or more advanced? Are there tools that easily allow you to root, back up, restore, and flash your phone?
I have a nexus 7 and there is a tool that does that for PC, is it compatible with the 4? And is there anyway to do that on the phone?
My biggest concern is getting in over my head. I recently tried the galaxy s 3 and thought I knew what I was doing, but there was a surprising lack of development there, and returning to stock took me hours and many Google searches. Want to make sure the process is simpler here before I start messing with my new nexus 4. I am never worried about breaking my gs2. But on my nexus 7 I have left it as stock rooted because I didn't want to venture too far into unknown territory.
Thank you all for any answers.
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I think I answered my own question. I guess my question is: to those of you that have had Samsung phones and used Odin. Do you feel as supported and prepared as you did with those great tools?
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I think I answered my own question. I guess my question is: to those of you that have had Samsung phones and used Odin. Do you feel as supported and prepared as you did with those great tools?
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I hate Odin. Give me fastboot and stock .img files and I'm "supported and prepared."
Also, before tackling a device, ALWAYS know how to fix a bootloop/soft brick. The fact that you're asking tells me you haven't read enough. No offense.
Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909
Edit. Fixed link.
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estallings15 said:
I hate Odin. Give me fastboot and stock .img files and I'm "supported and prepared."
Also, before tackling a device, ALWAYS know how to fix a bootloop/soft brick. The fact that you're asking tells me you haven't read enough. No offense.
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None taken. You are right. I have repaired all types of Samsung devices both hardware and software but this is my first nexus phone. Thank you for the answer though.
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El Daddy said:
Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619716
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Thanks but that thread was about a dock.
I know how to use the nexus tool but I would like to know how I fix it by myself with the IMG for. Anyone that can point me to a thread about this?
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Thanks but that thread was about a dock.
I know how to use the nexus tool but I would like to know how I fix it by myself with the IMG for. Anyone that can point me to a thread about this?
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My bad. I copied the wrong link. It has been fixed.
I am strongly against toolkits and the link I have corrected in my previous post explains why.
I'd suggest you read efrant's nexus 4 101 guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
Also check out jubakuba's guide sticked in the Q&A section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
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Used Odin on my T999,i9100/i9300, as well as i747.. It is nowhere near as simple as fastboot. Odin is great, sure but fastboot is much cleaner and much less can go wrong.
You started off on the right foot by asking and making this thread instead of just blindly flashing, so props. The two others that have responded are by far my favorites in the N4 forums simply because they know what they are talking about and respond much more than I do
Make sure you learn your fastboot commands and you will be able to recovery from bad flashes, etc easily and in a matter of minutes.
Also, the toolkit should only be used AFTER you are familiar with commands - and lastly it no longer links to stock images but a few members here have them on their personal dropbox accounts. I recommend downloading those so you have them handy.
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+1 on fastboot commands.
Know those commands and invest some of your time learning at least the basics. It will get you out of sticky situations. Not just for N4 but for future Android devices you'll own. Avoid root kits or at least until you know the concept behind how it does its thing.
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joshnichols189 said:
Used Odin on my T999,i9100/i9300, as well as i747.. It is nowhere near as simple as fastboot. Odin is great, sure but fastboot is much cleaner and much less can go wrong.
You started off on the right foot by asking and making this thread instead of just blindly flashing, so props. The two others that have responded are by far my favorites in the N4 forums simply because they know what they are talking about and respond much more than I do
Make sure you learn your fastboot commands and you will be able to recovery from bad flashes, etc easily and in a matter of minutes.
Also, the toolkit should only be used AFTER you are familiar with commands - and lastly it no longer links to stock images but a few members here have them on their personal dropbox accounts. I recommend downloading those so you have them handy.
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Well said!
I keep the stock .img files, as well as the drivers and adb folder (including fastboot) in my drop box so that I can access them from any computer in a pinch.
Thanks to undercover for that!
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Thanks but that thread was about a dock.
I know how to use the nexus tool but I would like to know how I fix it by myself with the IMG for. Anyone that can point me to a thread about this?
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Yay someone who doesn't want to use a toolkit. :sly:
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Toolkits are great for quick fixes or more advanced things (like flashing without increasing the flash counter) but I always worry that maybe the version I have is out of date. I've used fast boot commands in the post. But they have always fine with detailed instructions in a preset folder. The more I know about android the better.
Thanks for all of the help and the reading materials
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So I read the post about toolkits and I agree. But I have unbricked my phone using ADB before. And I think a toolkit like the nexus toolkit is useful because it has so many processes in one place. Easy and quick repairs for the flashaholic on the run. Though I will be rooting and installing cwm manually. I will probably use the nexus toolkit for its many easy to access features that have saved my nexus 7.
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Toolkits are great for quick fixes or more advanced things (like flashing without increasing the flash counter) but I always worry that maybe the version I have is out of date. I've used fast boot commands in the post. But they have always fine with detailed instructions in a preset folder. The more I know about android the better.
Thanks for all of the help and the reading materials
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Just so you know, there is no flash counter to worry about here.
Also, this business about lots of things in one place is interesting, as there isn't much to have. Throw everything you need on drop box and you'll always have it. Your recovery img, bootloader.img, system.img, boot.img, adb/fastboot driver, etc. Then you're golden.
I think you're used to things being more complicated. Welcome to the world of Nexus.
This phone does have a dedicated "download mode," just like Samsung phones. A LG tool is probably out there somewhere. Is it public though?
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Just so you know, there is no flash counter to worry about here.
Also, this business about lots of things in one place is interesting, as there isn't much to have. Throw everything you need on drop box and you'll always have it. Your recovery img, bootloader.img, system.img, boot.img, adb/fastboot driver, etc. Then you're golden.
I think you're used to things being more complicated. Welcome to the world of Nexus.
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I meant on other devices.
Also the toolkit has cwm injection, temp cwm, and about 20 other options. That is what I meant by fast and east
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I meant on other devices.
Also the toolkit has cwm injection, temp cwm, and about 20 other options. That is what I meant by fast and east
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Yes it has all of those options but you don't even need 90% of them after you initially unlock the bootloader and root the phone
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Idk. They were pretty useful when my wife bricked her nexus
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Censura_Umbra said:
Idk. They were pretty useful when my wife bricked her nexus
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And are also a big part of the reason 50 bazillion threads asking "How do I unbrick my Nexus?" exist. Using a toolkit helps you postpone getting comfortable with fastboot and keeping the necessary files handy.
We can go back and forth on this for the rest of our lives. Do it whatever way works for you. I'm done.
Another good thing about the toolkit is that you don't have to download 20 different things. CWM, SuperSU, drivers...it is a one stop shop.
I saw i made a mistake and put my phone into fownload mode could we use odin to flash on this phone also? I had a sgs2 before this and download mode would let u use odin
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NO. Odin is ONLY for Samsung phones.
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dont use it. please. learn how to do stuff manually with fastboot for nexus devices. if you havent yet, INSTALL THE ANDROID SDK. then look up tutorials its pretty easy
casonswag said:
I saw i made a mistake and put my phone into fownload mode could we use odin to flash on this phone also? I had a sgs2 before this and download mode would let u use odin
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No odin is for Samsung devices. You could flash using fast boot or just do it using cwm/twrp.
Worst comes to Worst, use a Toolkit, but thats not recommended.
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Worst comes to Worst, use a Toolkit, but thats not recommended.
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why is it not recommended to use mskip tool kit to unlock bootloader and root device?
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why is it not recommended to use mskip tool kit to unlock bootloader and root device?
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It's nothing against the toolkit, it's an excellent tool.
However, it's better for newbies to learn how to use ADB and fastboot on a nexus because that knowledge can save you should something happen.
Plus, it's good to know what the toolkit actually does prior to using it. It's not infallible, so having knowledge of what it's doing can help you troubleshoot should something happen with the toolkit.
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It's nothing against the toolkit, it's an excellent tool.
However, it's better for newbies to learn how to use ADB and fastboot on a nexus because that knowledge can save you should something happen.
Plus, it's good to know what the toolkit actually does prior to using it. It's not infallible, so having knowledge of what it's doing can help you troubleshoot should something happen with the toolkit.
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Werd...I tried using a toolkit to root my N4 and, when all hell broke loose, I ended up having to ADB it. Thank God I'm not a n00b...lol
Like they said, Odin is for Samsung devices only. I too highly recommend setting up ADB, busting out the command line and getting your hands wet.
Does anybody know? I got my n4 yesterday only unlocked bootloader yet cause i can't root 4.2.2, any advices?
You can root it already. It's a nexus, no need to wait
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Use fasboot to fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img
Then
Flash a SuperSU zip=ROOT FTW
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strapped365 said:
Use fasboot to fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img
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Flash a SuperSU zip=ROOT FTW
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To hard they want a one click!
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CheesyNutz said:
To hard they want a one click!
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exactly cuz i'm a noob...
paulo111 said:
exactly cuz i'm a noob...
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I would suggest that you search it's been talked about lots
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I sincerely hope that this does not come off as condescending, but even as a complete noob, it isn't that difficult to read up on how to use adb and/or fastboot, and learn how the process works. I'm absolutely a noob. I've never taken a computing class in my life, and my knowledge of programming languages comes from xkcd. But after reading a few of the FAQ/101 threads, and maybe watching a youtube video or two, I've learned so much from the community. And if knowledge for knowledge's own gain isn't good enough, you'll also be much better at troubleshooting and less reliant on others to develop things for you.
So I apologize if this sounds like flaming, but I mean it more as encouragement.
Easier to give him the (this) answer...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469
So I have my Nexus 4 I love it and everything is running well but I miss some of the advantages of having root. What are the biggest advantages of rooting the Nexus 4 what are the disadvantages? Can I gain root without unlocking the bootloader? I rooted only the Optimus V from virgin mobile is it all basically the same? Is there any known way to root without using a computer? Thanks for any input or suggestions you may have. it is really appreciated.
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nixie2121 said:
So I have my Nexus 4 I love it and everything is running well but I miss some of the advantages of having root. What are the biggest advantages of rooting the Nexus 4 what are the disadvantages? Can I gain root without unlocking the bootloader? I rooted only the Optimus V from virgin mobile is it all basically the same? Is there any known way to root without using a computer? Thanks for any input or suggestions you may have. it is really appreciated.
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You can:
1. Install custom kernels and custom roms. (So you're telling me you only rooted the Optimus V and never installed kernels and roms?)
2. It's a different root method than the Optimus V.
3. You MUST unlock the bootloader to gain root access. Might as well unlock it. You won't needing it much unless you brick it somehow.
4. You need to root using a computer. It's not like the Optimus V, there is no special application to use to gain root.
5. The only disadvantage is you not taking advantage of it.
Here are two useful toolkits you can use to root the N4. It's very easy but if you know how to use fastboot then go right ahead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
one very big advantage of rooting is being able to install Adaway. Adaway is an app that removes ads from any other app and browser i think? that you download. If you play games like words with friends, adaway removes the ads and makes it more enjoyable to play.
The deal breaker for me is titanium backup. I used it to migrate /restore my data from my old phone. Now I know there are other apps that can do it without rooting but titanium backup is a one stop centre.
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what about getting android updates?
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what about getting android updates?
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You'll have to revert back to stock to receive them. Or you can wait till a deodexed/odexed stock rom comes out.
For me rooting it is the only way to go. I wouldn't own a server without root and I see android in the same way.
Titanium Backup
Overclock and undervolt with a good kernel like Franco to save battery
AdAway
I would have to recommend going beyond just root and installing a custom ROM.
Being able to have 5 buttons instead of 3 is pretty nice. Xylon G+
Calibrating the screen requires root. Nexus 4 Display Control
I double tap my screen to turn it on. Touch Control
You can adjust the DPI essentially turning up the resolution.
I can't really see any reason not to root / ROM other than fear, as if you go with stable reliable ROMs, you're not gonna break anything, just don't run Antutu, I hear it red light bricks the N4.
One word
PIE
(assuming you'd flash a rom after rooting)
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ok.. think I want to do it... just worries me as no rom i used on the Optimus V worked 100 percent
will read about rooting more.
so i can get root then backup apps then do the bootloader?
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nixie2121 said:
ok.. think I want to do it... just worries me as no rom i used on the Optimus V worked 100 percent
will read about rooting more.
so i can get root then backup apps then do the bootloader?
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No. You need to unlock bootloader then root. That's the order to root the device. Unlocking the bootloader will erase everything on your phone.
This is a nexus device, most roms work very well and are on par if not better than stock.
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I have a apk that is not in play store anymore. how can i back this up before starting the process?
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neer2005 said:
This is a nexus device, most roms work very well and are on par if not better than stock.
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I agree.
I had the Optimus V like two years ago. I really liked that phone because it had awesome battery life. But the development was total crap. There was either little or no work done on it. The software was just mediocre.
The roms and kernels in this forum are quite mature and perfect for daily use.
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I have a apk that is not in play store anymore. how can i back this up before starting the process?
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You can use this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DMsImNvbS5yZXJ3YXJlLmFuZHJvaWQuTXlCYWNrdXAiXQ..
A second method;
http://lifehacker.com/5976036/simpl...droid-phone-from-the-desktop-no-root-required
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36499906
Or titanium backup
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Or titanium backup
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He doesn't have root access yet.
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well I am going to do this in a few hours... wish me luck... i never flashed a kernel before.. which do you all use and what rom do you all use?
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nixie2121 said:
well I am going to do this in a few hours... wish me luck... i never flashed a kernel before.. which do you all use and what rom do you all use?
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So I am about to do the following from here: http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
Then I guess I need to flash a recovery, and then a rom...I will read to make sure but thought I would ask in advance.
very paranoid!!!
thanks again all.
nixie2121 said:
So I am about to do the following from here: http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
Then I guess I need to flash a recovery, and then a rom...I will read to make sure but thought I would ask in advance.
very paranoid!!!
thanks again all.
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Download the program now and do the following.
Here's a video tutorial.
Please watch it first and get a feel of it first!
If you follow the tutorial, you should be fine. Do not miss a step. Most folks miss a step and they panic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg_QU9w5xCU
I know it's a Nexus 7 video but it's essentially the same for the N4.
And this is the Nexus 4 tutorial if you don't want to use the one above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_aM_MQbPrI
Again, please watch the videos first.
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Download the program now and do the following.
Here's a video tutorial.
Please watch it first and get a feel of it first!
If you follow the tutorial, you should be fine. Do not miss a step. Most folks miss a step and they panic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg_QU9w5xCU
I know it's a Nexus 7 video but it's essentially the same for the N4.
And this is the Nexus 4 tutorial if you don't want to use the one above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_aM_MQbPrI
Again, please watch the videos first.
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THANKS - all rooted.....now what kernel and rom!!!!