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Amazon has published the source code for the Fire TV at http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201452680
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elmerohueso said:
Amazon has published the source code for the Fire TV at ...
Please code responsibly.
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PSA: I've tracked the kernel part of the code drop back to the closest msm-3.4 tag, so we have a partial git history. Please use that as a starting point rather than importing the kernel src into a new git tree without history:
git://github.com/freedreno/kernel-msm firetv

robclark said:
PSA: I've tracked the kernel part of the code drop back to the closest msm-3.4 tag, so we have a partial git history. Please use that as a starting point rather than importing the kernel src into a new git tree without history:
git://github.com/freedreno/kernel-msm firetv
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This does not appear to match the binary... wth Amazon
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Your source was for the first release they did, the initial OTA came with a new kernel, and numerous fixes, including fixing the get_user/put_user vuln (CVE-2013-6282) which was what caused the confusion. Binary not vuln, but your source was.
My bad for not pulling their latest source.

jcase said:
This does not appear to match the binary... wth Amazon
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hmm, well no guarantees amazon actually posted the correct kernel dump.. that could be an extra headache. I'm a bit new to the android side of things so don't really know what Amazon's track record is like.
fwiw, the src drop I grabbed kernel from was firetv_src_51.1.0.1_user_510055620.tar.bz2 (md5sum: 0cba752bd8e6154667120718efe619b2)
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jcase said:
This does not appear to match the binary... wth Amazon
*EDIT*
Your source was for the first release they did, the initial OTA came with a new kernel, and numerous fixes, including fixing the get_user/put_user vuln (CVE-2013-6282) which was what caused the confusion. Binary not vuln, but your source was.
My bad for not pulling their latest source.
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oh, whoops, should have read your later reply first
when I get my fire-tv tomorrow, should I take steps to avoid OTA update?

robclark said:
hmm, well no guarantees amazon actually posted the correct kernel dump.. that could be an extra headache. I'm a bit new to the android side of things so don't really know what Amazon's track record is like.
fwiw, the src drop I grabbed kernel from was firetv_src_51.1.0.1_user_510055620.tar.bz2 (md5sum: 0cba752bd8e6154667120718efe619b2)
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oh, whoops, should have read your later reply first
when I get my fire-tv tomorrow, should I take steps to avoid OTA update?
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hmm you sure? firetv_src_51.1.0.1_user_510055620.tar.bz2 is not vulnerable, but the source you linked to is
Possible to mitm the update process. I do believe it is http. This is why i was asking for a pcap of it, but by the time I got mine I had already confirmed I could do what I needed and didn't bother actually get a pcap.
Blocking the server providing the OTA alone won't allow it to boot, intercepting it and telling the unit that no ota is available probably would.

so is the OTA gonna patch the vuln that allows root ?

jcase said:
hmm you sure? firetv_src_51.1.0.1_user_510055620.tar.bz2 is not vulnerable, but the source you linked to is
Possible to mitm the update process. I do believe it is http. This is why i was asking for a pcap of it, but by the time I got mine I had already confirmed I could do what I needed and didn't bother actually get a pcap.
Blocking the server providing the OTA alone won't allow it to boot, intercepting it and telling the unit that no ota is available probably would.
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hmm, can you check md5sum on the file you got and see if it matches what I have. There were two files available to download when I grabbed the src drop..
fwiw, it is no problem to update the kernel to a newer src drop.. the only thing that will take any time is actually downloading the src drop

robclark said:
hmm, can you check md5sum on the file you got and see if it matches what I have. There were two files available to download when I grabbed the src drop..
fwiw, it is no problem to update the kernel to a newer src drop.. the only thing that will take any time is actually downloading the src drop
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Sorry can't, i deleted it after extraction. Running out of space on the disk I keep android data on, so I'm bit tight about it

jcase said:
Sorry can't, i deleted it after extraction. Running out of space on the disk I keep android data on, so I'm bit tight about it
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damn.. well, I'll go ahead and download the other tarball (will take a while, on slow network connection at the moment) and import it on another branch and see what the difference is..
btw, if anyone else has downloaded firetv_src_51.1.0.1_user_510055620.tar.bz2 more recently, could you check md5sum to see if file has changed since the day of the announcement?

bkdg100 said:
so is the OTA gonna patch the vuln that allows root ?
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OTA patched at least two that would have allowed root. Doesn't patch the one I am working with right now.
robclark said:
damn.. well, I'll go ahead and download the other tarball (will take a while, on slow network connection at the moment) and import it on another branch and see what the difference is..
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I can redownload it if it is a bother, no big deal.

jcase said:
I can redownload it if it is a bother, no big deal.
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well, if you have a good network connection, you can probably get it faster than I can..
I'm keeping all the files I download (not out of disk space yet).. tomorrow when I have a good connection I'll grab firetv_src_51.1.0.1_user_510055620.tar.bz2 again to check (if no one has confirmed before then)

just got mine tonight , figured i would hold off on the updates until a secure root exploit id posted,. anyone script a network mitm to spoof the update for now?

bkdg100 said:
just got mine tonight , figured i would hold off on the updates until a secure root exploit id posted,. anyone script a network mitm to spoof the update for now?
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I believe it force updates OTAs, so no holding off

jcase said:
Possible to mitm the update process. I do believe it is http. This is why i was asking for a pcap of it, but by the time I got mine I had already confirmed I could do what I needed and didn't bother actually get a pcap.
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btw if anyone else did get a packet trace of it contacting the ota server, I'd be interested to see it. (Well, if no one replies before tomorrow when my box, then don't bother, I can get the trace myself. I'm just impatiently waiting now )

is your root exploit secure enough to outlive the updates ? any chance a virgin box can be spoofed later to limit the OTA from patching everything ?

robclark said:
btw if anyone else did get a packet trace of it contacting the ota server, I'd be interested to see it. (Well, if no one replies before tomorrow when my box, then don't bother, I can get the trace myself. I'm just impatiently waiting now )
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Not to my knowledge, possibly if you can feed it a low version number then you can boot without taking the OTA, and then use public roots

bkdg100 said:
is your root exploit secure enough to outlive the updates ? any chance a virgin box can be spoofed later to limit the OTA from patching everything ?
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Amazon updates reflash everything, they don't do delta updates. No ota survival

jcase said:
OTA patched at least two that would have allowed root. Doesn't patch the one I am working with right now.
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just ran the bluebox app for the heck of it - it claims my firetv is safely patched for 8219321, 9695860, and 10148349 (those are the only 3 it tests for) - yes, I do have the ota update.
are there other recent ones android-using peoples of the world should be aware about? 9950697?

tarvoke said:
just ran the bluebox app for the heck of it - it claims my firetv is safely patched for 8219321, 9695860, and 10148349 (those are the only 3 it tests for) - yes, I do have the ota update.
are there other recent ones android-using peoples of the world should be aware about? 9950697?
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I checked all of the zip parser bugs first, obvious choice considering it runs 4.2.2.
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jcase said:
Sorry can't, i deleted it after extraction. Running out of space on the disk I keep android data on, so I'm bit tight about it
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I've pushed firetv-0 branch which is from firetv_src_51.1.0_user_510047320.tar.bz2 ... definitely looks like some additional error checking, etc, between the two. Maybe what I thought was the original src drop was the update and visa versa. Not what I'd expect given the file names, but it would explain...

Software Update version 51.1.3.0_user_513011520

Amazon has updated their Fire TV Source Code page with a new software package: version 51.1.3.0_user_513011520
I haven't heard of anyone receiving this version in an OTA update yet, but I figured I'd let everyone know to keep an eye out and get the discussion going for the inevitable rollout.

Anyone already stuck without root would probably get that update since they are stuck.
They have no choice anyway unless they still use one of blocking methods.
We might need at least one person to stay on the first unrootable version in case rbox or anyone else could find a new exploit or something.
I wonder,what has changed in this new update anyway?
Edit:Amazon,listen to the users of Fire TV and add support for USB Media Storage.
It probably had a negative effect on sales,especially since the blocked root access which was the only way they could access USB media storage using stickmount.

retroben said:
Anyone already stuck without root would probably get that update since they are stuck.
They have no choice anyway unless they still use one of blocking methods.
We might need at least one person to stay on the first unrootable version in case rbox or anyone else could find a new exploit or something.
I wonder,what has changed in this new update anyway?
Edit:Amazon,listen to the users of Fire TV and add support for USB Media Storage.
It probably had a negative effect on sales,especially since the blocked root access which was the only way they could access USB media storage using stickmount.
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so native enabled usb storage with the update? we need to get that aspect without updating for us rooted users. im kinda tired of the stick mount method. it would be nice to not need it

So this tarball is smaller than the previous, but I can see no difference in it. Quite strange...

retroben said:
Edit:Amazon,listen to the users of Fire TV and add support for USB Media Storage.
It probably had a negative effect on sales,especially since the blocked root access which was the only way they could access USB media storage using stickmount.
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I don't think there was any doubt they would eventually add it. Ouya did the same thing. Originally yhey said it was over security concerns they needed to work out.

lost my root...Help Geohot!!!
Damn it!!! I just lost my root. I totally forgot to disable auto update on my Fire TV cuz was enjoying it all customized to my liking. Totally forgot to hack auto update feature. This sucks!!! :crying: It just happend about 10 min ago. Came back to tv and saw that amazon home screen was on screensaver. Knew that I had left Fire TV on xbmc. Went right to settings to see if box had been updated, and sure enough it was 51.1.3.0_user_513011520. So bummned out ritht now. I have another box that is disabled for auto updates, but this one is back to stock features. XBMC still works, just all root access apps are no longer working. Have to wait for root access to arrive again...Help Geohot!!! We need you!!! Yeah...this sucks.

oscargo29 said:
Damn it!!! I just lost my root. I totally forgot to disable auto update on my Fire TV cuz was enjoying it all customized to my liking. Totally forgot to hack auto update feature. This sucks!!! :crying: It just happend about 10 min ago. Came back to tv and saw that amazon home screen was on screensaver. Knew that I had left Fire TV on xbmc. Went right to settings to see if box had been updated, and sure enough it was 51.1.3.0_user_513011520. So bummned out ritht now. I have another box that is disabled for auto updates, but this one is back to stock features. XBMC still works, just all root access apps are no longer working. Have to wait for root access to arrive again...Help Geohot!!! We need you!!! Yeah...this sucks.
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And I'm assuming you actually tried all the root methods and didn't just assume it wasn't going to work? I know the reports were that 51.1.2.0 didn't allow root, but unless they are lying about their source dump, I see no evidence that they patched the kernel vulnerability.

rbox said:
And I'm assuming you actually tried all the root methods and didn't just assume it wasn't going to work? I know the reports were that 51.1.2.0 didn't allow root, but unless they are lying about their source dump, I see no evidence that they patched the kernel vulnerability.
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What other root method might you be talking about. All I know of is towelroot by geohot. Am i wrong about this being the only root method. I sure hope I'm wrong.

oscargo29 said:
What other root method might you be talking about. All I know of is towelroot by geohot. Am i wrong about this being the only root method. I sure hope I'm wrong.
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I remember people talking about different versions of it.

rbox said:
I remember people talking about different versions of it.
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I've read that v2 of towelroot does not work on the Fire TV. I personally have not tried v2. I've used both v1 and v3 of towelroot successfully root on 51.1.1.0_user_511070220 and older.

One of my Fire TV's just got the update notification. Unfortunately it's my primary device, so I blocked the update. I'll be trying to get the update on a Fire TV that I don't mind losing root on. WIll report back shortly.
The download URL for the version 51.1.3.0_user_513011520 update is: http://amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuit...ueller-ota-51.1.3.0_user_513011520-signed.bin

Just a bit of clarification as the first mention of USB wasn't clear to me the later posts assumed USB is enabled in this version. Can anyone actually confirm that they have a USB drive working on this latest firmware version?
I just checked for updates and my FireTV is still on 51.1.1.0_user_511070220 with no new updates found. It never updated to the 51.1.2.0 version, was never rooted, updates are not blocked, at least not intentionally.

AFTVnews.com said:
I've read that v2 of towelroot does not work on the Fire TV. I personally have not tried v2. I've used both v1 and v3 of towelroot successfully root on 51.1.1.0_user_511070220 and older.
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When you say older, do you mean older as in update 51.1.2.0_user_512073320. Cuz update 51.1.3.0_user_513011520 is not able to root with towelroot v3. Wishful thinking on my part thinking it will work.
I have rooted 3 Fire TV's. All 3 came with software 51.1.0_user_510047320 and I updated all to 51.1.2.0_user_512073320. I rooted all with towelroot v3. Towelroot v3 no longer worked after update 51.1.3.0_user_513011520. That's the first thing I tested after auto update happened. Towelroot v3 state's "This phone isn't currently supported". So no "rain" for me I'll try to find v1 or v2 of towelroot and see what happens.
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Well that was quick...and painful. Towelroot v1, v2, and v3 are now confirmed by me, to not be able to root Amazon Fire TV.
O'well, I tried.
v1 just halts but was able to press back button and get out. v2 and v3 both say "This phone isn't currently supported". Good thing I have a spare Fire TV
In all honesty, as long as XBMC still runs on Amazon Fire TV, this shouldn't be such a total loss.
But when you get your settings and your customization just right, and then its all gone, it really hurts...a lot. :laugh:
Just got to wait now till further updates on root for this last Fire TV update.
Just a FYI. My first 2 Fire Tv's came from Amazon. 3rd one was from Best Buy. All came with Amazon's 1st firmware put out for this box 51.1.0_user_510047320.
I was expecting latest update when ordered from Amazon for sure. That was weird.
Heads up Everyone. Don't forget to disable OTA update for Amazon Fire TV so you can keep Root Access.
Silly me forgot to follow this big rule.:silly:

I was able to manually install v51.1.3.0_user_513011520 onto a rooted Fire TV that had not received this update.
I can confirm that towelroot v1, v2, and v3 all CAN NOT root the Fire TV running v51.1.3.0_user_513011520. Towelroot v3 reports that the 'phone' is not compatible, while v1 and v2 just sit there frozen when you press "make it rain".
I'm currently going through to determine what has changed with this new update. Please list anything you'd like me to check.

Thanks for checking into this update.

AFTV news:
Please check if the USB port is active and allows access to external storage from XBMC. I don't care if I can root as long as it supports external USB storage... 4TB hopefully

alexb101 said:
Please check if the USB port is active and allows access to external storage from XBMC. I don't care if I can root as long as it supports external USB storage... 4TB hopefully
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I don't know why everyone thinks out of no where Amazon would add USB support...
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Preliminary examination shows that the main bootloader hasn't changed, but the sbl1/2/3 and the rpm images have changed. The image was built on September 5th. It looks like they added german to the recovery. Not sure how it decides german vs english, probably means there is a difference between the english and german versions.

alexb101 said:
AFTV news:
Please check if the USB port is active and allows access to external storage from XBMC. I don't care if I can root as long as it supports external USB storage... 4TB hopefully
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That's a big NO. XBMC does not detect any external storage. I don't think Amazon will give end users this feature.
Only root access will allow this. Hoped might just work, but only way this would work is with root access.
Wishful thinking Amazon will add this feature.
A "no go" for external storage on latest update 51.1.3.0_user_513011520.
Hate being the one know this first hand.

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I don't know why everyone thinks out of no where Amazon would add USB support...
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Preliminary examination shows that the main bootloader hasn't changed, but the sbl1/2/3 and the rpm images have changed. The image was built on September 5th. It looks like they added german to the recovery. Not sure how it decides german vs english, probably means there is a difference between the english and german versions.
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Damn, it looks like the german Fire TV will be shipped with the unrootable firmware
Hope we can find a way to get it rooted soon.
Is sideloading still working with this firmware? Without XBMC, this box would be useless for most people.

Xedos9er said:
Damn, it looks like the german Fire TV will be shipped with the unrootable firmware
Hope we can find a way to get it rooted soon.
Is sideloading still working with this firmware? Without XBMC, this box would be useless for most people.
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you dont need root to install xbmc. just sideload the app

[Rollback][Downgrade][Thor][Apollo] 3.2.8 rollback-OTA captured

This is only for 3rd gen devices (2013) - Kindle Fire HDX 7 (Thor) and Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 (Apollo) !
After Installing this update your device will be restored to factory defaults, please backup your data.
After Installing this update your need to disable OTA immediately!!!​You can downgrade from 4.5.5.1 and earlier versions to 3.2.8.
From 3.2.8 you can manually upgrade to 4.5.2.
Put roolback file into the Internal storage folder of your Kindle.
Swipe down from the top of the screen to open Quick Settings, and then tap Settings. Tap Device, and then tap System Updates. Tap Update.
If Kindle do not find update try to do this with wifi off.
Download for HDX 7 (Thor)​Yandex Disk - https://yadi.sk/d/SuxQf-u2f3MGo
Baidu mirror (Provided by FotixChiang, pass - joi6) http://pan.baidu.com/s/1jGux15s
Google Drive - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2twXJIOgv-UdzBBSUNkTGtZMmc/view?usp=sharing
Download for HDX 8.9 3rd gen (Apollo)​Yandex Disk - https://yadi.sk/d/qHZ3TL7NfPfMT
Google Drive - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2twXJIOgv-UalRFZEl3dG1jYUk/view?usp=sharing
Stock 4.5.2 and other firmwares - http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/update-1314-4-1-1-probably-sangria-t2901813
Root for 4.5.2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59156161&postcount=56
Disable OTA on 4.5.2 + Install GApps - http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/tut-disable-ota-4-5-2-install-gapps-t3043550

quick question
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Uploaded just for information and examination.
Do not try to flash until somehow it is proved that it is safe (or is it work at all?).
You can brick your device!
i was wondering i had amazon rollback my kindle to 13.3.2.8 i have it rooted but i want to roll back a bit futher so i can install roms so if amazon rolled me back can i still rollback once more?
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Rebel4206 said:
ONYXis said:
Uploaded just for information and examination.
Do not try to flash until somehow it is proved that it is safe (or is it work at all?).
You can brick your device!
i was wondering i had amazon rollback my kindle to 13.3.2.8 i have it rooted but i want to roll back a bit futher so i can install roms so if amazon rolled me back can i still rollback once more?
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You cannot downgrade deeper than 13.3.2.8 if I understood your question.
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ONYXis said:
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Big thanks. I checked it found nothing special and copied it to the internal storage of my 4.5.3 device. Disabled Wifi and run the update from the settings menu. Now my device is on 13.3.2.8.
How did you grab it?

Phate123 said:
How did you grab it?
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through local proxy
Now my device is on 13.3.2.8.
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Thanks.

Hello,
Can I ask how you managed to run the update from the settings menu?
I Don't see an option to run updates from there! I too am already on 4.5.3 and would rather like to rollback to an earlier version if it is indeed possible using this rollback file.
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Varlock said:
Can I ask how you managed to run the update from the settings menu?
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Put roolback file into the Internal storage folder of your Kindle.
Swipe down from the top of the screen to open Quick Settings, and then tap Settings. Tap Device, and then tap System Updates. Tap Update.
If Kindle do not find update try to do this with wifi off and reboots after each steps.

Just want to confirm it worked on my 4.5.3 too... switched wifi off first and all seems good !

Rollback from 4.53 to 3.2.8 also confirmed for me!

Many thanks ONYXis, that worked perfectly! I too can confirm that it worked and I have rolled back from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8.
Can hardly believe it was that easy. Now too look around some more to find out what I can do now I am finally rooted.
Thanks for your help.
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Just had a thought, as we effectively rolled back our devices, does that mean we will NOT get ota updates from Amazon now? It would be pretty handy if they didn't work oat now. Save is from worrying about losing root access

has anyone tried this on 4.5.2?

ONYXis said:
Uploaded just for information and examination.
Do not try to flash until somehow it is proved that it is safe (or is it work at all?).
You can brick your device!
Succesfull expirience - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59258028&postcount=4
Link (Thor) - https://yadi.sk/d/SuxQf-u2f3MGo
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Kudos !!!!!
Wish same can be done with Apollo but there seems no point as there's no TWRP / unlocked bootloader.
I'm not trying to point finger at your work just saying if bootloader unlock can be achieved for Thor or Apollo over 13.3.4.8 ~ ish versions....
edit : please add "Thor" to your title [emoji1]

ONYXis said:
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You cannot downgrade deeper than 13.3.2.8 if I understood your question.
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My question is it safe to downgrade once more jumping firmware to firmware might cause issues I would like to downgrade once more but i was told by amazon I could not update my kindle after being rolled back is that just auto update being turned off and I could roll back again.
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thank you very much
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Thank you for ONYXis, I could roll back from 13.4.5.3 to 13.3.2.8 with this uploaded file.

nice
exellent it works, but now its wiped lol never mind here comes root!

Can I rollback from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8, then upgrade to 4.5.2 to root, 'cause I only need Gapps ?

titanworm said:
Can I rollback from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8, then upgrade to 4.5.2 to root, 'cause I only need Gapps ?
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yes, you can

ok I am also back to 13.3.2.8 thank you.
its been a few years since I did anything like this, in fact since I got a nexus 7 (2012), I am now downloading stock rom 4.5.2 which i need to install (download seems to be very slow (10 hours to go !!)
then I try to root

apollo?
any hope to get the corresponding apollo update?

dimi5 said:
any hope to get the corresponding apollo update?
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I need someone who already roolbacked pming me. we could try to catch.

hdx 8.9 generation 3 4.5.3

Anyone that can be done to this one root and gapps or anything?

ajac said:
Anyone that can be done to this one root and gapps or anything?
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Depends on what you mean. You say 3rd gen, I assume you are talking Apollo, correct? If so, you may be able to roll back to 3.2.8 & from there upgrade to 4.5.2, which can be rooted.

GSLEON3 said:
Depends on what you mean. You say 3rd gen, I assume you are talking Apollo, correct? If so, you may be able to roll back to 3.2.8 & from there upgrade to 4.5.2, which can be rooted.
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Where can I download 3.2.8? All I an find is 3.5.7.6 and then 4+.

ajac said:
Where can I download 3.2.8? All I an find is 3.5.7.6 and then 4+.
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You need to be on 4.5.2 (or lower) to rollback. If your device is at 4.5.3 (or higher) you're stuck with Fire OS and no root. To roll back start here. READ, READ and READ some more. You won't find many tutorials. Don't expect to pull off rollback/upgrade/root/gapps in an evening. HDX is a tough bird; easy to brick with limited recovery options. Do you homework before flashing anything.
Good luck.

Oh never mind. I got them to rollback now rooted with twrp now to try some custom roms

ajac said:
Oh never mind. I got them to rollback now rooted with twrp now to try some custom roms
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Great! If you post again please include current fw level, etc. Those who responded (including me) assumed you had a newer device and based responses accordingly. Trying to get my head around "got them to rollback" and "now rooted with twrp". Rollbacks usually don't conclude with twrp unless you start at 3.2.6 or below.

Well it was the 3rd generation Apollo with 4.5.3 on it. Contacted customer service told them it had all sorts of issues he went ahead pushed back a roll back to 3.2.8. Then I went ahead and rooted it using the KFHDX toolkit. Originally safestrap wouldn't boot into recovery until I updated it to safestrap-Apollo 3.75-0s3.2.4-b02. Now have twrp was able to flash thro-gapps-installer1.zip. also disabled OT updated.
Current version 14.3.2.8_user328003120
build number date monday december 7 2914 1':19pm mst

ajac said:
Well it was the 3rd generation Apollo with 4.5.3 on it. Contacted customer service told them it had all sorts of issues he went ahead pushed back a roll back to 3.2.8. Then I went ahead and rooted it using the KFHDX toolkit. Originally safestrap wouldn't boot into recovery until I updated it to safestrap-Apollo 3.75-0s3.2.4-b02. Now have twrp was able to flash thro-gapps-installer1.zip. also disabled OT updated.
Current version 14.3.2.8_user328003120
build number date monday december 7 2914 1':19pm mst
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Thanks. Some important tid-bits in your post:
- Amazon rolled back an Apollo (!) which they have been reluctant to do of late. No one has been able to capture the 3.2.8 OTA image which would be a tremendous help to users who are marooned at 4.5.x. While it may be too late can you fire off a PM to @ONYXis as he has a method for capturing the image file? Thanks in advance!
- You referenced 3.2.8 and twrp. Do you mean Safestrap which is derived from twrp? If you indeed have twrp installed with 3.2.8 then you have accomplished something that no one else has!

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Thanks. Some important tid-bits in your post:
- Amazon rolled back an Apollo (!) which they have been reluctant to do of late. No one has been able to capture the 3.2.8 OTA image which would be a tremendous help to users who are marooned at 4.5.x. While it may be too late can you fire off a PM to @ONYXis as he has a method for capturing the image file? Thanks in advance!
- You referenced 3.2.8 and twrp. Do you mean Safestrap which is derived from twrp? If you indeed have twrp installed with 3.2.8 then you have accomplished something that no one else has!
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The version of safestrap I used was deprived from twrp it looks like but boots into it and lets me flash and put custom roms on. Just fired off my pm and about to do it for him hopefully I can capture it.

Okay had to do it twice but he should have captured it at least one time hope it works for everyone.

ajac said:
Okay had to do it twice but he should have captured it at least one time hope it works for everyone.
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Holly cxxp! I sure hope it worked for the benefit of Apollo users. Thank you so much!!

Davey126 said:
Holly cxxp! I sure hope it worked for the benefit of Apollo users. Thank you so much!!
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lol your welcome! I am just shocked amazon pushed it without to much trouble I guess i said the right thing lol

Vulcan OTA Preview is here!

If anyone wants to sign up, the Vultan OTA is available. It's a Developer Preview ROM for the Shield Tablet, Shield Tablet K1, and the Shield TV.
It's rolling out now for those of you that are interested.
https://developer.nvidia.com/shield-developer-os-images
Don't just go and run with it though. Be sure to read what it is, and what the point of it is.

Android 6.0.1 as well!
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using Tapatalk

So the vulkan is the 6.0.1?
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I sended too for partecipate to testing

Do you have the OTA link for this update so it can be manually downloaded? Would like to try it ASAP once Talos Principle on android receives the Vulkan support update soon.

Already posted a thread on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/general/vulkan-api-based-update-t3317336
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Do you have the OTA link for this update so it can be manually downloaded? Would like to try it ASAP once Talos Principle on android receives the Vulkan support update soon.
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You have to supply your serial to obtain the update.
This way they can track who is sharing builds.
The Vulcan build is coming for everyone. According to nvidia it is obtaining certification before general release.
I presume this means passing Google CTS.
To access the Vulkan Developer Preview OS, please?*email us.Please include:Your name and companyYour SHIELD's 20 digit serial number and a screenshot of the Settings->About pageYour SHIELD's device model and nameFor technical support and recovery info, please visit the?*NVIDIA support site.

Hi !
Someone has received an answer ? How long does it take ? I sent my demand few days ago.

Received mine today and installed it, hopefully the 6.0.1 should make the device snappier and better

Received mine too
Édit : First impression with this update. No bug so far, everything is smooth. Autonomy is much better.
Antutu score : 93220 [email protected]

En Kee said:
Received mine too
Édit : First impression with this update. No bug so far, everything is smooth. Autonomy is much better.
Antutu score : 93220 [email protected]
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Is there a version of twrp that works with this build, or did Nvidia just get rid of the benchmark blocker? If you did get twrp installed, could you let us know which one? Thanks
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet K1 using Tapatalk

Benchmark blocker is still here, I removed it.
For TWRP you can use this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55446061
It's still a bit buggy but it does the job.

dont suppose anyone can upload a TWRP backup of system and boot of vulcan.

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dont suppose anyone can upload a TWRP backup of system and boot of vulcan.
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Dunno if this works, but just register on their website. They're very kind in case something is missing or went wrong. Also fast response. I admitted two devices which were accepted and got the OTA within a day.

Very cool! I had a feeling shield wasn't going to get marshmallow. I'm curious when the public release will be... Dunno if I wanna get the beta version yet?
is it an OTA once they give access, or a local download? I don't mind waiting a month or so if that's what it's going to take.

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Very cool! I had a feeling shield wasn't going to get marshmallow. I'm curious when the public release will be... Dunno if I wanna get the beta version yet?
is it an OTA once they give access, or a local download? I don't mind waiting a month or so if that's what it's going to take.
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The shield has had marshmallow 6.0 for a while now. This is 6.0.1, still marshmallow, just an update preparing for the Vulcan graphics engine I think.
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet K1 using Tapatalk

razorseal said:
Very cool! I had a feeling shield wasn't going to get marshmallow. I'm curious when the public release will be... Dunno if I wanna get the beta version yet?
is it an OTA once they give access, or a local download? I don't mind waiting a month or so if that's what it's going to take.
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It's an OTA, that's why they need your serial number, and I've waited only few days to have an answer. I'm still happy with it.

I like how the Nav buttons separate in landscape mode for better thumb usage in this version.

I tried to get it on my pyro maybe it will override the killswitch :b

En Kee said:
Benchmark blocker is still here, I removed it.
For TWRP you can use this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55446061
It's still a bit buggy but it does the job.
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Does that TWRP work for the K1 version?

So how come I'm on 5.1.1 and it says I have the latest update? 6.0 isnt only for the shield k right?
I have the regular shield with LTE. I won't get the K because the LTE is a must for me.
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What did you guys put for the application name and application URL? I'm not working on any games lol