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I feel like I've gotten into a trap I cannot get out of.

Well damn. After getting the Note, it seems like that desire for the SGS3, HTC One X, or whatever new swanky phone with quad cores dies down when I see the lack of a S-pen on these devices. If the Note didn't exist, and if I still owned that awesome SGS2, I would have sold it to get the next powerful device like the HTC One X.
But noooo, now the only thing I look for is the availability of a S-Pen or similar device, and a screen as big as the Note. If it doesn't come with either, I can't seem to get myself to care about it. Anyone else stuck in this strange trap?

I agree with you 100%
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I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.

i hate my note
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note

JazonX said:
I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.
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HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
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for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?

arungk2 said:
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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Note 2 of course

Very true!
arungk2 said:
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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I love being trapped, saves me a lot of timing keeping up with all the news about newer and faster devices and having to decide which one to buy next and when. Now i just have to wait for the note2. No hurry btw, love the note a it is.
Now let's just hope no other manufacturer come out with this screen size and making my life complicated again
Sige

The Galaxy Note needs better screen drivers. The rendering of near-black pixels is awful and the S-pen is not as responsive as other devices. But I would not trade it for any other device right now.
The mobile devices are following the steps of the PCs with the MHz race, which lead to CPUs disipating 120W and needing huge and noise fans. I no longer consider the CPU / GPU / 4G radio when examining a new device.
Like in the PC world, it's OK if you're into gaming and want to load the newest games on your device, but for 90% of the people, they won't see the difference between a dual-core and quad-core. (Recently the boys from Gizmodo gave a few Ipad 2 to reviewers saying that they were Ipad 3, and they provided feedback as such).
But a quad-core CPU, multi-core GPU, has it's impact on battery, weight and running temperature. The same that happened on PCs. It stopped making sense once the CPU was dissipating 120 W.
The same for 4G / LTE / Whatever are now talking about that's 1 Gbps. What sense does make a 50 Mps connection when you're limited to 1 or 2 GB a MONTH?
At 50 Mps you can only use the connection 3 MINUTES before reaching your data cap. This is not serious people, this is just marketing buzz for people that's technically illiterate and cannot make the most simple calculations.

Vulpix said:
The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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Only one I know of, some low end company.
I think everyone else was waiting to see how well the note did before jumping to bigger screens. It makes sense given the number of bad reviews the note gets.
I think now that they hit the 5 million mark, we're going to see a lot more larger phones. I'm not convinced there is a large market for the stylus though.

The only phone that meets my requirements is the Note. I liked the S2, but the Note is a much more versatile device. I'm a photographer, and the Note is a truly photographer-friendly device. My next phone will be a Note 2, and I'm in no hurry for that.
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Tegra 3 it's not a quad-core CPU, it has 5 cores. The fifth core is active when the phone is "sleeping" or with low demanding tasks, in order to save energy. Early reports indicate that One X's battery behaviour is quite good, but none official review is out yet, so it's premature to judge it (unless, of course, you're a samsung fanboy).
I'm going to get a HTC One X in the next 2 weeks, but that doesn't diminuish my urge to get a Galaxy Note. IMO, Note can't be compared to any other phone, it's on a league of it's own. If the biiiig size isn't a problem for you or the issues with the screen, get a Note. It'll do everything One X or SGIII do, only in a BIGGER way!
I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use

htc one out in the wild ...hmmm..not that impressed
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2012/03/htc-one-s-for-t-mobile-caught-on-camera/

Just the other day when i was driving in the mud in the forest with my atv, A stick pierced my plastic shield that covers the braking cylinder. I took up my note, Took a picture and sketched on the image how the plastic was attached and what size it was. Sent the picture in like 2 minutes. Got an email back from the workshop that they have cut out that part in metal and was ready to be picked up.
So on my way home from the ATV run i picked up the piece just a couple of hours later and it fits perfectly.
That is the first time i really feelt how awesome the S pen function really was.
Now i might not have needed that part so fast, but it sure was sweet having it done so fast while driving in the woods and with such ease!
Before i even bought this phone i was like wtf do i need a stylus for, Its so Xperia X1 and that phone sucked. But i find it useful atleast a couple days a week!

Feel the same - although for me it's the screen size that keeps me from other devices. Never smaller than 5,3".

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I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use
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I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.

Yep, i need the Spen cause i'm an illustrator. All other phones are just phones.

Vulpix said:
HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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What!?!
I beg your pardon?
For all I know (I. e. Experience) HTC is well known for their tiny batteries on every device currently! And if specs don't change, even new devices too!
For me battery size and performance is a must and after the Note (screen size and SPen aside) I don't see any device capable of getting me through an entire day on a single charge with heavy use.
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after galaxy S III realized I will post my phone on ebay right away.
Like I always do.

Moandal said:
I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.
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I know, isn't it ironic that the "it's too big for daily use" argument is put forth mostly by people who have never used it daily?

Z3 will be sorely missed

I've had a lot of phones. There aren't that many that really leave an impression on me these days though. In this regard, I have to say that the Z3 (and the Z2 before it) stands out. Although I plan on moving to a Galaxy S6, I will very much miss the Z3, and will no doubt be back to the Xperia line if the Z4 is any good. Earlier today this happened, and although it won't make it too much farther, I'll say that from my experience, the Z3 has been one of, if not the most stable, reliable phones I've ever had.

se1000 said:
Earlier today this happened
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What happened? I'm a little confused.

MustafaSarhan said:
What happened? I'm a little confused.
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2,000 hours of uptime but what does that have to do with replacing it?

Memnoch30 said:
2,000 hours of uptime but what does that have to do with replacing it?
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Doesn't that counter reset on each reboot? April fools post maybe. Why wasn't there a single thread where people can post their little jokes into?

Memnoch30 said:
2,000 hours of uptime but what does that have to do with replacing it?
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Doesn't have anything to do with replacing it, except make me reconsider. Z3 has been incredibly stable.
After seeing the reports of the S6 battery life, I might just sell it instead.

se1000 said:
Doesn't have anything to do with replacing it, except make me reconsider. Z3 has been incredibly stable.
After seeing the reports of the S6 battery life, I might just sell it instead.
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What do they say about its battery life?

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What do they say about its battery life?
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4-5hrs SOT max and it seems idle drain is pretty high. Not sure I can go back to that.

I'm still confused about the original post. Doesn't make sense. However, the Z3 has been the best phone I have ever own due to its incredible battery life. The Android from Sony is very close to stock Google, which is a plus! However, the camera software (or hardware) is the biggest weak spot of the phone.

So you love the Z3, you're going to sorely miss it - but you're buying another phone anyway?
Does not compute.

Um, ok. Bye I guess? As long as Sony is the only game in town for a truly wayerproof flagship phone, I will stay with the Z line.

se1000 said:
4-5hrs SOT max and it seems idle drain is pretty high. Not sure I can go back to that.
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Me neither. As much as I want an awesome camera the battery life has to be there.

I would trade waterproof for root any day...

This thread makes no sense to me either, I would never trade my Z3 to any phone. You have an all around protected phone and why change it?

se1000 said:
Doesn't have anything to do with replacing it, except make me reconsider. Z3 has been incredibly stable.
After seeing the reports of the S6 battery life, I might just sell it instead.
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I heard Samsung had a real storm of angry customers after their Lollipop launch on their galaxy devices, Unstable, bugs, bad battery life etc.. Have they sorted it out? Personally i´m no fan of Samsung phones. Their hardware is decent now and they push limits, but i dislike TouchWiz as it is.

Sindroid said:
I heard Samsung had a real storm of angry customers after their Lollipop launch on their galaxy devices, Unstable, bugs, bad battery life etc.. Have they sorted it out? Personally i´m no fan of Samsung phones. Their hardware is decent now and they push limits, but i dislike TouchWiz as it is.
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S6 launch is turning out to be somewhat bumpy, I'm seriously reconsidering. It's a perpetual fight with my desire for toys though.

The best is already available
So the Samsung Galaxy S6 is knocking on the door now waiting for people to rush and own it; and actually I was one of those at the time of its launch. I'm an owner of a Sony Xperia Z3 and owned the previous Z phones, when I deeply thought about this switch I found out that the Z3 already has everything the S6 have except the IR blaster and heart rate and finger print sensor with its payment. The glass-aluminum combination and sleek design were available already. The good battery performance was already available. The wireless charging capability using the dock was available. The software stability and speedy performance were available. There is a micro SD adding option. And what makes the Z3 unique is the waterproofing option, besides it's not owned by most of the population as Samsung and iPhone. Why switch to S6? Be proud with your Z3!

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So the Samsung Galaxy S6 is knocking on the door now waiting for people to rush and own it; and actually I was one of those at the time of its launch. I'm an owner of a Sony Xperia Z3 and owned the previous Z phones, when I deeply thought about this switch I found out that the Z3 already has everything the S6 have except the IR blaster and heart rate and finger print sensor with its payment. The glass-aluminum combination and sleek design were available already. The good battery performance was already available. The wireless charging capability using the dock was available. The software stability and speedy performance were available. There is a micro SD adding option. And what makes the Z3 unique is the waterproofing option, besides it's not owned by most of the population as Samsung and iPhone. Why switch to S6? Be proud with your Z3!
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I agree, im on Lollipop with my Z3 and for some reason after two or three days the battery life is back to its insane level. I just don't get it, although google play services seems to be using the most, even over display, but still its 7pm day 2 and I have 49% remaining in my battery. I love my Z3 (previous plastic Samsung owner). Now even the S6 is copying the Z3 design with glass on the back, I guess for reception. Granted I should probably get a cover for this phone but I just love the look and feel of it in my hands, and don't really want a 4k display and an octa core processor that sucks the life out of the battery, maybe in the future when battery technology improves I may consider it, but full HD is enough thank you

Moze666 said:
This thread makes no sense to me either, I would never trade my Z3 to any phone. You have an all around protected phone and why change it?
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You would, if a much newer phone with better specs from any of the manufacturers came out. Well unless its going to be a family heirloom.

abhinav.tella said:
You would, if a much newer phone with better specs from any of the manufacturers came out. Well unless its going to be a family heirloom.
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No, you know, I'm into Sony, so it would be another Z series phone but I wouldn't change the manufacturer

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So the Samsung Galaxy S6 is knocking on the door now waiting for people to rush and own it; and actually I was one of those at the time of its launch. I'm an owner of a Sony Xperia Z3 and owned the previous Z phones, when I deeply thought about this switch I found out that the Z3 already has everything the S6 have except the IR blaster and heart rate and finger print sensor with its payment. The glass-aluminum combination and sleek design were available already. The good battery performance was already available. The wireless charging capability using the dock was available. The software stability and speedy performance were available. There is a micro SD adding option. And what makes the Z3 unique is the waterproofing option, besides it's not owned by most of the population as Samsung and iPhone. Why switch to S6? Be proud with your Z3!
This +1

I will be buying the s7, if the rumors about micro SD return prove true.

I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.

The rumor of the MicroSD slot returning is definitely one that caught my interest. Plus the fact that they are supposed to be working with Google to improve TouchWiz makes things sound even better. I am interested in the S7 with al the rumors going around, but I still want to see what the other companies have to offer before I make my choice.

Given my choices, the decision will be easy, assuming the micro sd card returns. I personally would also love to see the return of remove-able battery, but I can live without that. Whatever phone I wind up with, is going to go right into a protective case, so the solidness and elegance of the build is of little importance. Nice, but for me, form is trumped by function. The S6 was too much of an iPhone wannabe. I'd rather get an iPhone. The ability to expand storage on a phone that is also highly customizable, that is what I love about my S5. It is like having a phone that is also a highly powerful computer. I can sync with my home pc remotely, pull files over to myself, etc. These are features you lose with iPhone without jailbreak, but there are things IPhone does better than Samsung. It would be a real toss up. The return of the sd feature alone, would make my decision for me.

Well, the choices you have right now make the S7 an easy choice, but remember this is a new year and therefor new phones from other companies later on. With the Snapdragon 820 in effect now I rather wait a few months to see what happens even though I do like the way the S7 is looking.

Yeah, despite how much I hate the idea of a phone without replaceable battery, if the S7 comes with SD, that will probably be enough to upgrade from my S4, which is actually still plugging along nicely. I was all set to get an S6 until it was released, but losing both battery & storage cost them a sale.

I'm really leaning towards the S7 if they have the return of the sdcard slot. I'm currently using the Note 4. But I also want to see what the Note 6 has in store as well. If they do indeed decide to put back in the sdcard and have better battery life then I"m all in. But thats almost 7 months away, not sure if I can hold off that long...lol.

Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.

I will wait to see what note 6 brings. I still keep my note 4. I can't justify "upgrade" to phone without sd card, non removable battery, lack of infrared port and hdmi out. All those features I regularly use

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Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.
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So true. Who cares how the phone looks. It is nice to have a slim, aesthetically appealing phone, but I would take an extra mm or 2 thickness for an extra 300-500ma on the battery any day, and having a remove-able battery is important when your phone crashes and you need to completely shut the thing off. Function trumps form, though form can be cool, just know that a case is going to minimize the cool day 1.
On my S5, when it occasionally crashes, holding down the power button for 7 seconds does nothing for me. I have to remove the battery to shut the dang thing completely off. I am curious if this is also true on the S6, and if so, what they heck users do when their phone crashes? Wait out the battery drain?
Return of SD Card is crucial. My company pays for the minimum phone, and don't allow us to chip in for upgrades, which means if I want to use a company phone (free phone), I am stuck using the lowest storage option. 32gb ain't going to cut it. Removable battery would be nice, but not a deal breaker. Return of Waterproof would be killer as well, again, not a deal breaker. When I search leaked features on the web, it seems as though return of sd card is a done deal, though I cannot find an original source. Anyone know if this is true? Fingers crossed...

I've seen many rumors about SD, but there's a good chance we won't know until the official announcement. I can grudgingly accept the battery situation, but unless they offer a 256GB variant, lacking SD will be a deal killer for me.

if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)

More excited about waterproofing coming back, micro sd is icing on the cake. Reason I didn't give up my S5, one its rooted and running custom rom and runs smooth and slick, but loved the water resistance, even taken vids and pics underwater and they actually come out real nice lol.

guilherme2707 said:
if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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There is not even a remote chance of that happening.
It's almost certain according to leaks that Edge will have 3600mAh, regular S7 will have 3000mAh.

Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.

I think SD card expansion option really needs to be considered. Modular design is way to go.

Redflea said:
Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.
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Batterylife on Edge will be better in standby, simply because of larger batteries. But in benchmark tests which only checks on-screen time, they will be neck-in-neck.
Batterylife (if everything else remains equal) is dependent surface area of display.
Area ratio = (5.5/5.1)^2 = 1.16
Battery ratio = 3600/3000 = 1.20
Edge version will give you better standby, in actual usage, on-screen batterylife will be almost same.

All variants of the device are said to come housed in a black frame, with a choice of black, white, silver or gold finishings, and the disagreeable camera bump is apparently now gone from the rear of the device.
On the subject of the camera, the sources both confirmed that Samsung has dropped the megapixel count from 16 to 12, and the f-stop is now a very appealing 1.7. Samsung plans to market the camera as being extremely adept at taking night shots, thanks to the lower aperture number, increased sensor size and dual-photodiode technology, which you can read more about in the camera section at the bottom of the page.
The pair of sources also confirmed that the S7 will be dust and waterproof, will house a hybrid dual SIM slot, returning support for microSD cards, up to 200 GB, and will have an increased battery capacity – all things that had previously been rumored.
The size, resolution and a number of other S7 specs were confirmed through another leak coming via. The leak comes in the form of a photo of a presentation slide, showing the S7 as part of the evolution of the S series.
On the slide, the device is given a 5.1-inch screen with 1,440p resolution, a 12 MP BRITECELL camera, 4 GB RAM and the Snapdragon 820 or Exynos 8890 processor. None of this is new or surprising, but it does begin to set long-running rumors in stone.

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I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.
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It's not a rumor. It's 100% true. I got to play with one for a few minutes this week. It's a slick little device, a noted evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, improvement over the S6.

guilherme2707 said:
if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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What rumor of a 4500mAh battery? I have never once heard that, and there's no way in hell they'd almost double the battery size.

Its 3500 on S7 Edge version, 3000 on S7

If I'm going to have to replace it, again.. What with????

Well I just went to AT&T to try the LG v20. It's as big as an iPhone 7 Plus, but I have to say I thought it was fantastic. It's screen is slightly bigger, it's brighter (!) which surprised me and when I ran gagnam style on both (always my test video) I have to say that I thought the screen was better on the v20. The whites are whiter and the Note looked yellowish by comparison. Very interesting. It's also far quicker at switching apps, as fast as the iPhone. Camera is very quick too.
Anyway just food for thought. There is life after the Note7
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Gagnam style lol nice... Thats what im considering going too. I have yet to see it so i want to actually hold it and play with it before i make a decision
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Yeah if I have to replace my note I'm thinking the v20. Don't want the s7 edge (had it as a loaner and it was okay but not great). Only disappointment is that I won't be able to use my new gear vr. Also, at&t's version won't come with those earphones
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Gagnam style lol nice... Thats what im considering going too. I have yet to see it so i want to actually hold it and play with it before i make a decision
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Gagnam is great as its bright, colorful and many scene changes, and you can test the sound too.
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I will take the v20, 64gb storage, 4gb ram, usb-c, 5.7 screen, android 7.0, not water resistant, but its not like you can use the note 7 for snorkeling so, I think the note 7 is done. So lets go LG
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How about the new "newer" note 7....maybe available in a few weeks
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How about the new "newer" note 7....maybe available in a few weeks
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I am hoping the exynos version for all.

Yeah I think I may wait to see what Samsung does to try to keep my business. My guess is that they realize this is a big pain to customers and will hopefully offer a special deal to keep them loyal. If not I will probably switch to a different brand. Not sure what yet though since there isn't much that compares.

ShrekOpher said:
Yeah I think I may wait to see what Samsung does to try to keep my business. My guess is that they realize this is a big pain to customers and will hopefully offer a special deal to keep them loyal. If not I will probably switch to a different brand. Not sure what yet though since there isn't much that compares.
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Unless they have a Note 7.5, Note 8, or an S8 ready to go, I'm done. They have treated me like crap throughout this entire recall.
Probably going back to Apple this year.

sireniankyle said:
Unless they have a Note 7.5, Note 8, or an S8 ready to go, I'm done. They have treated me like crap throughout this entire recall.
Probably going back to Apple this year.
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I feel ya, but I could never go back to Apple. Like being handcuffed... Just can't stand iOS, the device itself is awesome but can't stand iOS.
I still have an S7e so I will probably go back to that for the short term. I love the Note line even if it is re-branded I will look at the Note 8 next year.

i did the same, returned Note 7 for pre order of LG V20 this morning. The camera was extremely fast, it was snapping pics as fast as I hit the button. The screen was slightly bigger, or appeared to be anyway (good thing). I like the little display on the top as well, and display looked much better than I expected. Cant wait for my order to arrive!

ShrekOpher said:
I feel ya, but I could never go back to Apple. Like being handcuffed... Just can't stand iOS, the device itself is awesome but can't stand iOS.
I still have an S7e so I will probably go back to that for the short term. I love the Note line even if it is re-branded I will look at the Note 8 next year.
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I settled for the S7 Edge once already, because Samsung screwed up the Note 5. That's 2x in a row in my book. I don't want to go back to it, because 1.) I'm spoiled by the Note 7's 64GB plus expandable storage, and 2.) The edges are more obvious, and i do not like them at all. There's also the lack of S- pen and hdr. The Note 7 also boosts the audio for video playback, which I loved.
**I consider the Note 5 a flop, because there was no expandable storage and 64GB max onboard. The same reason that I haven't bought a 1+3. NB4 you don't need more than 64GB. If company says "Never Settle", don't tell me to settle.**
If I go back to Apple, I get the water resistance, imessage, stereo speakers, unrivaled speed, great battery life, and a home button that is not on-screen (lookin at you, Google and LG). I also lose micro sd (got 256 on-board so), fast charging, wireless charging, qhd, and certain freedoms on the software.
If Samsung would let me buy a Note 7, or if the 1+3 could take a micro sd card, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But the Pixel XL is crap (my opinion), the htc 10 is too small, the S7 Edge is too curvy, and the 1+3 lacks enough storage. I know, I'm picky.

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I settled for the S7 Edge once already, because Samsung screwed up the Note 5. That's 2x in a row in my book. I don't want to go back to it, because 1.) I'm spoiled by the Note 7's 64GB plus expandable storage, and 2.) The edges are more obvious, and i do not like them at all. There's also the lack of S- pen and hdr. The Note 7 also boosts the audio for video playback, which I loved.
**I consider the Note 5 a flop, because there was no expandable storage and 64GB max onboard. The same reason that I haven't bought a 1+3. NB4 you don't need more than 64GB. If company says "Never Settle", don't tell me to settle.**
If I go back to Apple, I get the water resistance, imessage, stereo speakers, unrivaled speed, great battery life, and a home button that is not on-screen (lookin at you, Google and LG). I also lose micro sd (got 256 on-board so), fast charging, wireless charging, qhd, and certain freedoms on the software.
If Samsung would let me buy a Note 7, or if the 1+3 could take a micro sd card, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But the Pixel XL is crap (my opinion), the htc 10 is too small, the S7 Edge is too curvy, and the 1+3 lacks enough storage. I know, I'm picky.
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I have been anti apple for as long as I can remember. I do not like apple for many reasons from being so constrained on a phone I own to apples business model to apples proprietary hardware etc etc. BUT this time I decided to give the 7+ a try for 1 year after i returned my Note 7. So far after 2 weeks I have absolutely nothing bad to say about my 7 Plus. It is incredibly fast, incredibly powerful and just down right does everything perfectly EXCEPT they are having some bluetooth issues with certain devices. One of those happens to be my 8.4" UConnect headunit that it is not streaming nicely with. Random skips and choppy audio when streaming music. But my headunit has ipod controls so I simply plug my 7 Plus into a usb port and stream my music that way and it charges the phone as well. If you do go 7 plus I dont think you will be unhappy with it. Also the standby time and overall battery life is outstanding. I first got a silver one then decided I want black instead so my 128GB Silver one is on ebay right this second with 2 days left in the auction. Brand new condition.

So I talked to someone I know that works for Samsung. Samsung is a business partner of the company I work for. It is not looking good. Right now there are two options being discussed internally at Samsung.
1.) Stop the production of the Note 7 ALL together and refund everyone who bought one. This is an issue because phones sold on a secondary market may be difficult to get refunds for. It also will cause many users to leave Samsung all together and go the LG V20 / Pixel / iPhone 7 rout.
2.) Do ANOTHER recall replacement. I was told a new run of the phones would be available by the end of the month to be swapped out if Samsung chooses to go down this path AGAIN. I would hope the 3rd time is the charm and this 3rd build of the phone is perfect. However this has issues as well. There is a chance some if not all of the USA carriers won't pick up the 3rd version of the phone AT ALL and not offer it as a replacement to consumers. Also if it is offered as a replacement there is still not guarantee that USA carriers will EVERY being to sell it as new again.
Both of these options leave me with a few concerns.
1.) This phone will probably NEVER have the correct software support it deserves. Meaning IF it gets the android 7.1 update in the 4th quarter of this year like it is supposed to it will probably be the only update it ever gets. Also it may not get the monthly security patches ever, which makes this not usable for my work.
2.) I do not know what Samsung can do to restore confidence with me that this 3rd version of the Note 7 will not one day blow up. I have also lost all faith in the CPSC. I mean what are they doing this time that will GUARANTEE that this version of the phone won't blow up as well. Just seems like its going to be a hard sell to me.
3.) Samsung still seems a bit short sited to me on fixing this issue. If they really want to "stop the bleeding" of loyal customers they need to focus on future product sales. Again this means leaving the Note 7 dumpster fire behind, but it also means trying to convert note 7 users into future sales. I would hope they would consider offering a discount voucher for a Samsung phone bought in the future as a part of this 2nd recall, but judging by everything I have seen coming from their company it looks like they are more worried about the now, and they are going to lose even more customers because of it.
Anyone have any other thoughts? What would it take for Samsung to get you to stay with the Note 7, or in the future consider buying a S8 or a Note 8?

What stores have the lg v20 demo?

I returned both of ours for a full refund.. Ordered an axon 7 and a oneplus 3 as replacements.

Seriously I went into my local Att store and no V20 demo unit there.
Heres my 2 cents. I came from the Note 4, and the Note 2 before that, so you can understand the waiting I had to do in order to get something amazing. The Note 7 checks so many boxes off of a long list of features that I have always found useful. The pen, the screen size and resolution as well as top specs in the cpu and ram department every time they are released. But, this one thing that kept buggin me on the newer Notes was the non-removable batteries. It was the reason I held out on upgrading the Note 4 for so long. And here we are witnessing something that is hugely affected by the decision of not including that capability.
In terms of what Samsung should have done, its obvious - they should have included a slightly smaller battery in terms of thickness and capacity in order to reduce the risk of defects. Something like a smaller/thinner 3000 mah battery would have been totally fine. Even a slightly thicker version of the 3600 mah battery and thicker chassis would have been fine as well. But my honest opinion is that devices that are catching fire are actually suffering from some slight bending in the chassis at some point after they are purchased. This most likely would be something like dropping it hard or even having it bend slightly when in a pocket. Im thinking the latter is the cause for the batteries to have warped a tiny fraction causing the layers/connectors in the batteries to warp. But this is an inherent risk with all batteries in phones I think. Its just exponentially worse the thinner you go. And if the production tolerances on both those aspects are so dang tight, expect more issues than say an Iphone which can bend all day and still not catch fire.
It would be great to see Samsung give people full refunds for international variants and exchanges through carriers like they are doing. Should they give a discount for future devices? It would be awesome obviously from a consumer standpoint. Will they actually give some discount of meaningful value? Most likely not. They are a massive multi-billion dollar corporation. I would think the Note customer base is the smaller of their top 2 devices. So even if they lose some of this crowd, there is still the massively successful S7/S7 edge crowd to bank on. Especially since we will be seeing the S8 in like 4-6 months. Its actually smart of them to stagger device releases in this case. I'm not particularly excited about anything else being released this year. Google has the specs now, but looks so boring. And that top headphone jack...just ugh. The iphone as everyone saw is just a placeholder until next year. The V20 is, well, just another LG phone. Tough decisions all around at this point.

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This store has a demo, I messed with it for a bit while my Note 7's were being returned.
7025 FM 1960 RD E STE. 100, HUMBLE, TX 77346

Anyone played with an Honor 8 or the ZTE AXON?
I am not a fan of LG devices.
I'm probably go back to the S7e but it's really not a great replacement.
How many people would get another replacement Note 7 if one is offered?

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Anyone played with an Honor 8 or the ZTE AXON?
I am not a fan of LG devices.
I'm probably go back to the S7e but it's really not a great replacement.
How many people would get another replacement Note 7 if one is offered?
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I will , but I will wait to trade mine in . When they have them in the store , then I will go. I still want this phone , its why I bought it in the first place.

Why I Cancelled my note 8 order

Having my two phones on pre-order and back ordered has given me time to reflect on dropping 2k on two phones.
But the more I thought about the more it makes sense. Anyone else in the same boat as me?
Still rocking my s7 edge on u firmware. Tbh my phone is still plenty fast with 0 bloat. Even with u firmware battery has taken a hit. Below are my reason for skipping:
1. Battery life - I understand trying to rebrand image not having a flaming brick. But to have $1000 flagship phone have less capacity than the s8+(3500) and s7 edge (3600) is inexcusable. Although they say battery is more efficient, I am sure a year from now or sooner, people will start complaining once the device has been burned in.
2.. Finger print reader location. If not in display, then I rather theyimplement into screen or power button in side.
3. Audio. For a 1k music should pristine with a quality dac and dual speakers.
4. Not compatible with 600mhz spectrum. Again for this price it should be future proof with new spectrum. Big miss imo.
5. Price.1k for a phone? Really ? I can buy a one plus or v30 with a decent tablet for that price
These are my gripes what about everyone else.

icugotit2 said:
Having my two phones on pre-order and back ordered has given me time to reflect on dropping 2k on two phones.
But the more I thought about the more it makes sense. Anyone else in the same boat as me?
Still rocking my s7 edge on u firmware. Tbh my phone is still plenty fast with 0 bloat. Even with u firmware battery has taken a hit. Below are my reason for skipping:
1. Battery life - I understand trying to rebrand image not having a flaming brick. But to have $1000 flagship phone have less capacity than the s8+(3500) and s7 edge (3600) is inexcusable. Although they say battery is more efficient, I am sure a year from now or sooner, people will start complaining once the device has been burned in.
2.. Finger print reader location. If not in display, then I rather theyimplement into screen or power button in side.
3. Audio. For a 1k music should pristine with a quality dac and dual speakers.
4. Not compatible with 600mhz spectrum. Again for this price it should be future proof with new spectrum. Big miss imo.
5. Price.1k for a phone? Really ? I can buy a one plus or v30 with a decent tablet for that price
These are my gripes what about everyone else.
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Lol what do you want a rocketship? Jesus! Future proof? Do you want the economy to drop?? Its because of ppl that hold on to old things that make economy go down... imagine if this was future proof, ppl don't upgrade already with crappy phones (looking at the note 3 and note 4 users that held on for that long)...JUST IMAGINE IF IT WAS FUTURE PROOF! Holy ishhhhh!! Samsung sales would go down... that's why i don't blame when companies makes phones go bad when new ones come out because ppl wanna hold on and stall sales.
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What I said was very conservative and resonable.
I did not mention sketchy irsis scanning,non removable battery, no IR.
Asking for bigger batteries when phones from a year ago had them is not a rocketship demands . It's the equivalent to Tropicana changing from 64oz to 59oz serving while charging the same or higher price.
Not rocketship when s7edge was one of first phones that supported 700mhz radio which prolongs the life of device.
I guess I like a good value and have received that in times past from samsung devices.

Same.. I didn't order yet but was thinking do I really need it right now... Yes a miss having a note. But this phone really is close to what I paid for my laptop. I really hate this s7 but still paying it off.. Maybe I'll wait also for the note 9 to come out.
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icugotit2 said:
Having my two phones on pre-order and back ordered has given me time to reflect on dropping 2k on two phones.
But the more I thought about the more it makes sense. Anyone else in the same boat as me?
Still rocking my s7 edge on u firmware. Tbh my phone is still plenty fast with 0 bloat. Even with u firmware battery has taken a hit. Below are my reason for skipping:
1. Battery life - I understand trying to rebrand image not having a flaming brick. But to have $1000 flagship phone have less capacity than the s8+(3500) and s7 edge (3600) is inexcusable. Although they say battery is more efficient, I am sure a year from now or sooner, people will start complaining once the device has been burned in.
2.. Finger print reader location. If not in display, then I rather theyimplement into screen or power button in side.
3. Audio. For a 1k music should pristine with a quality dac and dual speakers.
4. Not compatible with 600mhz spectrum. Again for this price it should be future proof with new spectrum. Big miss imo.
5. Price.1k for a phone? Really ? I can buy a one plus or v30 with a decent tablet for that price
These are my gripes what about everyone else.
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I wouldn't have bought this device if the reports on battery life had not been so good. A bigger battery would have been nice, but as it is it keeps up with the S8. I don't think TMO will have that 600 mhz deployed in Portland (boy we could use it), so I'm not worried about that. I kept my Note 7 so I was just going to get a full refund then pay the hundred dollars extra to get this. Then the offer came along and I'm making out like a bandit! Half price, hell yeah!
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Well to each their own! I'm absolutely loving the phone so far but I can see how these reasons can deter people from purchasing. Also I'm coming from a note 4 so this is a pretty major upgrade for me!
Battery is a huge improvement. Even though only about 200mah bigger, it last almost twice the amount of time. The 600mhz also isn't a big deal for me since I get great service and it's not estimated to roll out withinthe next 1-2 years anyways. I don't really understand people's issue with the fingerprint scanner. I don't see how you could smudge the camera unless you're dragging your finger across the back since it's not even directly next to the lens.
Also for 30 bucks a month it made it much more attainable for me.

If I didn't get the help with T-Mobile while in between Note 7 and Note 8 then I would of purchased the LG V30 this year. This year is a good year for good high end devices. You don't need to go for Samsung devices or $900 + devices.
I am happy with the Note 8. Though next year I will be looking at what all Android device manufactures are making before making the next purchase.

Good for you man I was considering it but are we for real its a a fricking phone and its $1000 ? Can it fly or make you teleport in the end its a phone and I dont like that phones ate getting so expensive . Thank you for opening my eyes.

icugotit2 said:
Having my two phones on pre-order and back ordered has given me time to reflect on dropping 2k on two phones.
But the more I thought about the more it makes sense. Anyone else in the same boat as me?
Still rocking my s7 edge on u firmware. Tbh my phone is still plenty fast with 0 bloat. Even with u firmware battery has taken a hit. Below are my reason for skipping:
1. Battery life - I understand trying to rebrand image not having a flaming brick. But to have $1000 flagship phone have less capacity than the s8+(3500) and s7 edge (3600) is inexcusable. Although they say battery is more efficient, I am sure a year from now or sooner, people will start complaining once the device has been burned in.
2.. Finger print reader location. If not in display, then I rather theyimplement into screen or power button in side.
3. Audio. For a 1k music should pristine with a quality dac and dual speakers.
4. Not compatible with 600mhz spectrum. Again for this price it should be future proof with new spectrum. Big miss imo.
5. Price.1k for a phone? Really ? I can buy a one plus or v30 with a decent tablet for that price
These are my gripes what about everyone else.
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All understandable concerns. But in practice I haven't found any of them to be that bad.
The battery is considerably better than any phone I've had previously. And I've had quite a few. iPhones , notes, nexi, the pixel, and both the V10 and v20. The lgs had by far the worst battery life, the iPhones, would get me through most of a day even the 6s plus would be under 10% if not dead when I would plug in at the end of the day. My Pixel and S7 don't make it. They all have to be plugged in as I wind down the day. The note 8 is incredible. I brought it down below 10% once on the first charge just to let it do one full cycle. But even with 6-7hrs SOT I'm still in the 20 or 30% range at the end of my day.
I bought a 5500mah battery case just for shiggles, I won't have to charge my phone for 3 days with the case on. But really I wouldn't let the battery hold you back.
I do agree with the fingerprint reader, both the LGs and the Pixel had the finger print reader in the middle of the back, which is a lot more convenient for the way I hold my phone but I've adjusted to the off center higher up placement. But it's still awkward.
The dual speaker miss is I guess a personal concern. I almost never use the speakers on my phone, I'm either connected to a Bluetooth headset or Bluetooth speaker and those have their own DAC. Which is also I guess why the phone DAC doesn't bother me either. If you listen a lot to headphones and want premium sound you'd probably use an amp anyway.
Also this phone isn't really all that much more expensive than previous notes. The note 4 and 7 were about $850. The note 8 is not cheap but I feel it is in line with current pricing. There are definitely nice phones for less, but they all lack the Wacom digitizer and stylus. Which definitely adds to the cost of development and materials and more importantly takes up space, leaving less room inside the phone, hence the smaller battery. And let's not forget, a very very large majority of people who had the note 7, are getting their phone for 525ish. So it's not really even a $600 phone. T-Mobile did BOGO so for about 1200 after all is said and done you end up with 2 phones. That's after taxes and adding a line. So again about $600.
600mhz would have been nice, but around me, it won't be available till late 2019. I'll have a different phone by then and band 12 is still being rolled out, which is supported. So while it's a nice to have, it's not a killer for me.
I was in a similar boat, my unlocked was backordered out into October and during that time I started convincing myself I didn't need the phone, but on release day I walked into tmobile and walked out with 2 note 8s and boy am I glad I did. I'll sell the second and I've already sold the S7 I was going to trade in. I still have the pixel and an iPhone 6s to play around with for when I want to run Oreo or whatever comes next since my one gripe with Samsung is how long it takes to get updates. But this easily became my daily driver. And I haven't looked back yet.

Thanks!
Thanks man needed to hear that. Very similar experiences. Audio was trash with the s7 and purchased a dragon fly black DAC a while back. I just went ahead with BOGO and am getting an additional 100GF.
(https://slickdeals.net/f/10560148-t...note-8-bogo?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1)
Curious as to how much you got for your s7 ? Putting mine up for sale and will sell the 2nd note 8. Thinking outof pocket cost should be around $200.
Thanks everyone .. made me a believer :good:
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All understandable concerns. But in practice I haven't found any of them to be that bad.
The battery is considerably better than any phone I've had previously. And I've had quite a few. iPhones , notes, nexi, the pixel, and both the V10 and v20. The lgs had by far the worst battery life, the iPhones, would get me through most of a day even the 6s plus would be under 10% if not dead when I would plug in at the end of the day. My Pixel and S7 don't make it. They all have to be plugged in as I wind down the day. The note 8 is incredible. I brought it down below 10% once on the first charge just to let it do one full cycle. But even with 6-7hrs SOT I'm still in the 20 or 30% range at the end of my day.
I bought a 5500mah battery case just for shiggles, I won't have to charge my phone for 3 days with the case on. But really I wouldn't let the battery hold you back.
I do agree with the fingerprint reader, both the LGs and the Pixel had the finger print reader in the middle of the back, which is a lot more convenient for the way I hold my phone but I've adjusted to the off center higher up placement. But it's still awkward.
The dual speaker miss is I guess a personal concern. I almost never use the speakers on my phone, I'm either connected to a Bluetooth headset or Bluetooth speaker and those have their own DAC. Which is also I guess why the phone DAC doesn't bother me either. If you listen a lot to headphones and want premium sound you'd probably use an amp anyway.
Also this phone isn't really all that much more expensive than previous notes. The note 4 and 7 were about $850. The note 8 is not cheap but I feel it is in line with current pricing. There are definitely nice phones for less, but they all lack the Wacom digitizer and stylus. Which definitely adds to the cost of development and materials and more importantly takes up space, leaving less room inside the phone, hence the smaller battery. And let's not forget, a very very large majority of people who had the note 7, are getting their phone for 525ish. So it's not really even a $600 phone. T-Mobile did BOGO so for about 1200 after all is said and done you end up with 2 phones. That's after taxes and adding a line. So again about $600.
600mhz would have been nice, but around me, it won't be available till late 2019. I'll have a different phone by then and band 12 is still being rolled out, which is supported. So while it's a nice to have, it's not a killer for me.
I was in a similar boat, my unlocked was backordered out into October and during that time I started convincing myself I didn't need the phone, but on release day I walked into tmobile and walked out with 2 note 8s and boy am I glad I did. I'll sell the second and I've already sold the S7 I was going to trade in. I still have the pixel and an iPhone 6s to play around with for when I want to run Oreo or whatever comes next since my one gripe with Samsung is how long it takes to get updates. But this easily became my daily driver. And I haven't looked back yet.
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icugotit2 said:
Having my two phones on pre-order and back ordered has given me time to reflect on dropping 2k on two phones.
But the more I thought about the more it makes sense. Anyone else in the same boat as me?
Still rocking my s7 edge on u firmware. Tbh my phone is still plenty fast with 0 bloat. Even with u firmware battery has taken a hit. Below are my reason for skipping:
1. Battery life - I understand trying to rebrand image not having a flaming brick. But to have $1000 flagship phone have less capacity than the s8+(3500) and s7 edge (3600) is inexcusable. Although they say battery is more efficient, I am sure a year from now or sooner, people will start complaining once the device has been burned in.
2.. Finger print reader location. If not in display, then I rather theyimplement into screen or power button in side.
3. Audio. For a 1k music should pristine with a quality dac and dual speakers.
4. Not compatible with 600mhz spectrum. Again for this price it should be future proof with new spectrum. Big miss imo.
5. Price.1k for a phone? Really ? I can buy a one plus or v30 with a decent tablet for that price
These are my gripes what about everyone else.
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icugotit2 said:
Thanks man needed to hear that. Very similar experiences. Audio was trash with the s7 and purchased a dragon fly black DAC a while back. I just went ahead with BOGO and am getting an additional 100GF.
(https://slickdeals.net/f/10560148-t...note-8-bogo?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1)
Curious as to how much you got for your s7 ? Putting mine up for sale and will sell the 2nd note 8. Thinking outof pocket cost should be around $200.
Thanks everyone .. made me a believer :good:
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I sold it for 250. I still had the box, charger and headphones in original wrapping though. Not sure if that made a difference or was just a nice to have for the buyer. I have chargers coming out my ears and never use the in box headphones, so they just sit there. My S7 as also mint because it didn't get much use with all the other phones I was swapping between and always kept it in a case.

icugotit2 said:
Having my two phones on pre-order and back ordered has given me time to reflect on dropping 2k on two phones.
But the more I thought about the more it makes sense. Anyone else in the same boat as me?
Still rocking my s7 edge on u firmware. Tbh my phone is still plenty fast with 0 bloat. Even with u firmware battery has taken a hit. Below are my reason for skipping:
1. Battery life - I understand trying to rebrand image not having a flaming brick. But to have $1000 flagship phone have less capacity than the s8+(3500) and s7 edge (3600) is inexcusable. Although they say battery is more efficient, I am sure a year from now or sooner, people will start complaining once the device has been burned in.
2.. Finger print reader location. If not in display, then I rather theyimplement into screen or power button in side.
3. Audio. For a 1k music should pristine with a quality dac and dual speakers.
4. Not compatible with 600mhz spectrum. Again for this price it should be future proof with new spectrum. Big miss imo.
5. Price.1k for a phone? Really ? I can buy a one plus or v30 with a decent tablet for that price
These are my gripes what about everyone else.
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Having used the Note 8 for about a week now, here are my experiences:
1. According to reports, the Note 8's battery life is as good as or even better that the s8+. And compared to my Note 7 (3500 mAh), the Note 8 (3300 mAh) lasts WAY longer and has a longer Screen on Time. I usually had to charge the Note 7 at around 7-8 pm (20% battery), but with the Note 8 I hit 20% at around 11 pm. And compared to my last daily driver, the Note 3, the Note 8 is 10000000x better. I lose 20% every 30 minutes on the Note 3 while in use, on the Note 8 it's more like 3-4% every 30 mins.
2. I actually prefer the rear placement for some reason. This was one of my biggest worries when the phone was announced, but I'm having no problems with it so far. Ironically, I used the iris scanner as my main unlocking method for the Note 7, but I seem to be using the fingerprint scanner more on the Note 8. Maybe it's because the 8's scanner is vertical while the 7 was horizontal and you get more finger real estate with the 8. I remember having to tap the Note 7's scanner 2 or 3 times before it would register, while on the Note 8 it's been once (very rarely twice) to unlock.
3. Yeah, Samsung speakers suck. It's been that way for all the Notes and all the Galaxy S phones. Even my Nexus S had crappy speakers. So yes, I agree that the Note 8 has crappy speakers as usual.
4. Not really a concern for me. According to the T-Mobile rollout map, my area won't have the 600 spectrum until 2020, so I'll probably have the Note 10 or 11 by then. Plus, what a lot of people who complain about the 600 mHz miss is that TMo also has the 700 mHz spectrum and the Note 8 has the antenna for it. Both share the same advantages of lower-frequency radio waves. Compared to my Note 3, which barely gets 2 bars, the Note 8 is constantly 4-5 bars.
5. Yeah, agree with you on this one as well, $1K is a bit much. The only reason I got the Note 8 is because Samsung only wanted $580 for it. ($425 discount and $70 iphone 5s trade in) That's cheaper than any flagship phone coming in the next year even with Black Friday discounts.

I came from a t-mobile note 5, held off getting the note 7, coz for me new gadgets tend to have bugs, true enough it happened, but now my daughter's note 3 is having problems, then t-mobile had a note 8 zero down and $40+ a month jump on demand with just $7.50 up front for shipping, so no brainer for me, sold the note 3 to pay off note 5 and gear s2. Now between note 5 vs 8 worlds apart, 8 battery excellent for the last week I've used it, Wi-Fi on, Bluetooth on, aod on 7pm to 7am, 3 email sync every 30 minutes, facebook sync, weather screen, hd widgets ever 30mins refresh, 3-6 calls ranging from 20 mins to over an hour, I play games, brightness 55%-60, fully charged at 1230am it's 1020 pm already and I still have 32% battery. Yes i know I should have held off a little longer but 2 years no new phone, upgrade bug got me. ?
I don't use the finger print sensor just for camera shots, don't use facial recognition, I use iris scanner but mostly I use pattern with pin code as its faster for me to open it. I don't use phone speakers to listen to music coz I know most mobile phones speakers are crappy especially if you have a good home theater set up, I always use a good set of headphones, I guess just have fun with the new toy. Try to bargain or wait for one with your carriers if they have a good promo.
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I did the BOGO deal and everything eventually worked out.. TMobile tried to screw me though and not pay off Verizon when we switched
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Its one thing to blindly buy a 1k phone, because you are a fan of a company's products, but its another thing to actually assess the product's value in relation to the price. I did not buy the note 8. I received it free through the tmobile deal buy one get one free. Tbh, if it were me gauging the price of this phone to be $700-800 for all its combined features. I sure as hell would have not coughed up 1k for this thing. Hell you could very well buy yourself an s8+ for cheaper with a note stylus and save a ton more money. People like to jump up and down claiming the s-pen is worth the $200-300 mark up compared to the s8+, but when it comes down to it majority do not even use the damn thing (surely not worth that markup price either).
In addition, scrutinizing the company for the price in relation to the actual product is a good thing. Consider what apple is doing for their new iphone, it has taken away essential phone feature (headphone jack) forcing people to buy the accessories to use headphones, finally implementing fast charge that require additional accessory purchases and marking up the phone for 1k. This is because they are aware that their fan-base that blindly buy their new products is so large that they can sell the same with implementing less. The last thing we want are android companies doing the same unsavory business models. All in all, I highly respect OP's opinion and choice.

kja4kc said:
Its one thing to blindly buy a 1k phone, because you are a fan of a company's products, but its another thing to actually assess the product's value in relation to the price. I did not buy the note 8. I received it free through the tmobile deal buy one get one free. Tbh, if it were me gauging the price of this phone to be $700-800 for all its combined features. I sure as hell would have not coughed up 1k for this thing. Hell you could very well buy yourself an s8+ for cheaper with a note stylus and save a ton more money. People like to jump up and down claiming the s-pen is worth the $200-300 mark up compared to the s8+, but when it comes ...
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I agree mostly, I don't think I could really get myself to pay so much for this phone of I had to pay full price. It's getting ridiculous! The Note 7 prior owner discount was a big plus because I was going to use the full refund from my Note 7 and just pay the extra 100 dollars out of pocket. Now I'm keeping the entire refund and paying half with a qualifying device turned in, an option I like better since ideally I'd like this phone to be priced close to 600 dollars. Then there is always the fact that to date the Note series is still in a class of its own. Yes, I do use the pen.

1. The battery life hasn't been of an issue to me. This is coming from a person who (very briefly) owned an S8+ with a larger battery, as well as a Pixel XL (still own it) with a slightly larger battery. I have no clue what magic research sauce Samsung employed behind the scenes in the Note 8 battery design, but it works, and it works well, in spite of the bigger and bright as hell screen. I haven't had any battery complaints at all in terms of average usage (streaming, web surfing, email management, social media updates, etc). I am easily getting 4-5 (and sometimes with conservative use 5.5-6) hours of screen on time. The device doesn't even really warm up, either, except under the utmost heaviest of loads.
2. The fingerprint sensor, while still inopportunely placed, is an improvement over the sensor on the S8+. The sensor is inlaid some and distanced a bit more from the camera/flash modules. I don't use it as my main biometric, but it is there when I do use it and accurate enough.
3. Samsung has always had lousy external speakers...but then again I live a lifestyle that isn't necessarily conducive to carrying around my smartphone on my shoulder like a boombox, either, so yeah. It is a bit w/e.

FYI y'all, if you did a JOD you can return your phone if in good condition to any T-Mo store at anytime to cancel the lease

TheAnarchist1 said:
1. The battery life hasn't been of an issue to me. This is coming from a person who (very briefly) owned an S8+ with a larger battery, as well as a Pixel XL (still own it) with a slightly larger battery. I have no clue what magic research sauce Samsung employed behind the scenes in the Note 8 battery design, but it works, and it works well, in spite of the bigger and bright as hell screen. I haven't had any battery complaints at all in terms of average usage (streaming, web surfing, email management, social media updates, etc). I am easily getting 4-5 (and sometimes with conservative use 5.5-6) hours of screen on time. The device doesn't even really warm up, either, except under the utmost heaviest of loads.
2. The fingerprint sensor, while still inopportunely placed, is an improvement over the sensor on the S8+. The sensor is inlaid some and distanced a bit more from the camera/flash modules. I don't use it as my main biometric, but it is there when I do use it and accurate enough.
3. Samsung has always had lousy external speakers...but then again I live a lifestyle that isn't necessarily conducive to carrying around my smartphone on my shoulder like a boombox, either, so yeah. It is a bit w/e.
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I get good battery life too as long as I use the phone. My standby battery usage is wack though.
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