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I have a nextbook tablet running windows 8.1 that I got from black Friday. I hate windows 8 and bluestacks won't run on the tablet, so therefore I can't even run my android apps.
Is there a way to install android on this tablet and get rid of windows? I've searched online and came up dry.
Any help would be appreciated.
I also bought one form wally world and would love to run android on it
nolan714 said:
I also bought one form wally world and would love to run android on it
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This is where I got mine too.
Please anyone who can shed some light on this I would really appreciate it. This is a great tablet but windows 8 sucks.
For Bay Trail:
https://01.org/android-ia/ - Intel's build of Android for x86 devices. They have builds available for Bay Trail devices, which according to the specs I found for that device, should work.
It does support running as a live image, which will get it off the ground and running for testing to see if all of the hardware is supported, and an installer to drop the Android setup on disk as necessary.
Installing Google Play and such might be a bit more involved of a task, but it's doable.
Interesting... but how would I get the tablet to boot into the image? since I can't plug a flash drive into it or access a boot menu of sorts how do I do this?
I had a similar question. I got an HP Stream 7 for $80 on Black Friday, and it comes with Windows 8.1. The reviews on amazon were glowing, considering the low price and still running a 32-bit version of Windows 8.
However, I'm not a big fan of Windows 8. Perhaps some day it'll grow on me, but at this moment, I don't find it intuitive.
Since the HP Stream has Intel Atom, I found this page (which apparently I'm not allowed to share). Just do a google search for Atom and kit kat. That gave me an Intel page with some instructions, but it looks like virtualization, as opposed to replacing or dual booting the OS.
zonykel said:
I had a similar question. I got an HP Stream 7 for $80 on Black Friday, and it comes with Windows 8.1. The reviews on amazon were glowing, considering the low price and still running a 32-bit version of Windows 8.
However, I'm not a big fan of Windows 8. Perhaps some day it'll grow on me, but at this moment, I don't find it intuitive.
Since the HP Stream has Intel Atom, I found this page (which apparently I'm not allowed to share). Just do a google search for Atom and kit kat. That gave me an Intel page with some instructions, but it looks like virtualization, as opposed to replacing or dual booting the OS.
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This won't work because the tablet doesn't not have enough ram to run an emulator. If that was the case I would just use bluestacks :/
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Interesting... but how would I get the tablet to boot into the image? since I cant plug a flash drive into it or access a boot menu of sorts how do I do this?
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Sounds like it's got a micro-USB port on it - given that the tablet is meant for running Windows, probably an OTG port.
Find a USB OTG cable and you should be able to plug a proper keyboard into it (to get into the firmware) or plug a USB thumb drive into it.
I think the same is true for the Stream 7 (a quick search tells me it's got the same sort of micro-B port on it).
As far as accessing the firmware for either (to do things like disable Secure Boot or change the boot device), I'm not sure - but the documentation for each device should have instructions on how to access the firmware.
For installation - the images I linked above are for direct installation, not running inside of a VM. (I don't think any of the images that Intel provides will run under virtualization because they expect certain hardware to be present that isn't typically provided by any of the VMs out there - graphics being the big one.)
android,ubuntu,windows?
irony_delerium said:
Sounds like it's got a micro-USB port on it - given that the tablet is meant for running Windows, probably an OTG port.
Find a USB OTG cable and you should be able to plug a proper keyboard into it (to get into the firmware) or plug a USB thumb drive into it.
I think the same is true for the Stream 7 (a quick search tells me it's got the same sort of micro-B port on it).
As far as accessing the firmware for either (to do things like disable Secure Boot or change the boot device), I'm not sure - but the documentation for each device should have instructions on how to access the firmware.
For installation - the images I linked above are for direct installation, not running inside of a VM. (I don't think any of the images that Intel provides will run under virtualization because they expect certain hardware to be present that isn't typically provided by any of the VMs out there - graphics being the big one.)
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i managed to get to the bios of it by trying android installer (wubi) but android wouldn't boot but it let me get into boot options it says it doesn't have usb connected when in fact i did via usb otg but still trying if it's possible to boot ubuntu i will report first thing lets hope the dev's figure this one out please note it has uefi bios ubuntu desktop maybe a possibility but that's just a wild guess
joeylikesubuntu said:
i managed to get to the bios of it by trying android installer (wubi) but android wouldn't boot but it let me get into boot options it says it doesn't have usb connected when in fact i did via usb otg but still trying if it's possible to boot ubuntu i will report first thing lets hope the dev's figure this one out please note it has uefi bios ubuntu desktop maybe a possibility but that's just a wild guess
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emergency i need a recovery image could someone that owns this create one and upload it to here i forgot to make a backup of os i'm not gonna lose any faith in xda not now anyways probally not ever i got this for a early christmas present and already screwed it up my own fault but i'm hoping we can all communicate and come up with a solution to solve these problems and figure out a way to get android or ubuntu on this device which can only be accomplished through unity
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ItsJon said:
I have a nextbook tablet running windows 8.1 that I got from black Friday. I hate windows 8 and bluestacks won't run on the tablet, so therefore I can't even run my android apps.
Is there a way to install android on this tablet and get rid of windows? I've searched online and came up dry.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Ditch Windows +1, I bought it with the intention of running XBMCLive on it (I have already tried the windows version of XBMC, Updated the HUGE library I have and it still runs at only 35% CPU usage and 76% RAM usage, so one can only assume that with the "Resource Pig" removed from the device XBMC should be in Idle 99% of the time) I found an article that said that if you press the Vol+ button and the Power Button at the same time it boots into what can only be described as a"Boot Menu" of sorts, which includes booting from Flash disk, DVD rom, etc. Now I just have to find my Micro USB cable to USB to test it out and see if I can destroy it, or alternatively the better option, install the live version of XBMC on to it. IMO this is the smallest form factor Quad core I have seen with HDMI out....... A bit of "Velcro" on the back, stick it to the back of the flat panel tv and hey presto.... XBMC I can't see, but works better than Winblows. If anyone has any info on this, it would be Greatly appreciated.... Before I go and brick the device or something, LoL.
MeM-TecH said:
Ditch Windows +1, I bought it with the intention of running XBMCLive on it (I have already tried the windows version of XBMC, Updated the HUGE library I have and it still runs at only 35% CPU usage and 76% RAM usage, so one can only assume that with the "Resource Pig" removed from the device XBMC should be in Idle 99% of the time) I found an article that said that if you press the Vol+ button and the Power Button at the same time it boots into what can only be described as a"Boot Menu" of sorts, which includes booting from Flash disk, DVD rom, etc. Now I just have to find my Micro USB cable to USB to test it out and see if I can destroy it, or alternatively the better option, install the live version of XBMC on to it. IMO this is the smallest form factor Quad core I have seen with HDMI out....... A bit of "Velcro" on the back, stick it to the back of the flat panel tv and hey presto.... XBMC I can't see, but works better than Winblows. If anyone has any info on this, it would be Greatly appreciated.... Before I go and brick the device or something, LoL.
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could you please make recovery file from inside windows and copy it an attach it to this thread
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joeylikesubuntu said:
could you please make recovery file from inside windows and copy it an attach it to this thread
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it has 3 options to boot from efiusb efidvd efi network i've pushed all of these and get the message system doesn't have usb boot option please select other boot option in boot manager menu my only option is to boot from a recovery partition on an sdcard it's a matter of making the partition in update & recovery and copying the root folder of the sdcard to a zip or img file shouldn't be that hardim stuck in a boot loop by the way
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could you please make recovery file from inside windows and copy it an attach it to this thread
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it has 3 options to boot from efiusb efidvd efi network i've pushed all of these and get the message system doesn't have usb boot option please select other boot option in boot manager menu my only option is to boot from a recovery partition on an sdcard it's a matter of making the partition in update & recovery and copying the root folder of the sdcard to a zip or img file shouldn't be that hardim stuck in a boot loop by the way
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Are you referring to a windows recovery? I have this same tablet, I can make one for you tomorrow and post it if you'd like.
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Are you referring to a windows recovery? I have this same tablet, I can make one for you tomorrow and post it if you'd like.
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Any way you could do a "How To" on that? It would be great if I also had a backup of the unit before I decided to wipe it and maybe render it useless if something went wrong! Also then I could supply an alternative image for "joeylikesubuntu" or anyone else that is thinking of messing with it and isn't sure if it will work or not. Thanks.
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This won't work because the tablet doesn't not have enough ram to run an emulator. If that was the case I would just use bluestacks :/
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Try installing this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/how-to-install-bluestacks-1gb-ram-t2885950
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emergency i need a recovery image could someone that owns this create one and upload it to here i forgot to make a backup of os i'm not gonna lose any faith in xda not now anyways probally not ever i got this for a early christmas present and already screwed it up my own fault but i'm hoping we can all communicate and come up with a solution to solve these problems and figure out a way to get android or ubuntu on this device which can only be accomplished through unity
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I also uploaded the recovery files:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mc9cbhntkpxqcgp/nextbook+recovery.rar
Having problems
I'm not able to get the device into any type of mode where it will read an external storage device. I've tried all sorts of combinations of power and volume and home keys with no results.
It just keeps saying "attempting automatic repair" and "diagnosing your PC"
any suggestions? None of the images posted in this thread seem to help me
Here my lead.
I recently saw this video in youtube (can't post the link since this is my first post) but video ID is /PG1_2MDYMtk
The specs of the device used in the video are by far surpassing the ones of the NCW8QC16G but I wasn't able to locate any minimum requirements so I think and hope it's doable.
I would only need a Micro USB OTG adapter to be able to plug in a wireless mouse and keyboard (which is currently in the mail).
I could load the installation image into a micro SD and then go to PC Settings\Update and Recovery\Recovery\Advanced Startup(restart now)\Troubleshoot\Advanced Options\ and try to make it boot into bios from there. or try pressing the usual combination of keys in my keyboard upon boot to access bios on a regular computer might work although I fear the chances are slim. Once we get into the boot menu and confirm that we can boot from SD I think the rest would be easy as shown in the video.
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brik.m3 said:
I recently saw this video in youtube (can't post the link since this is my first post) but video ID is /PG1_2MDYMtk
The specs of the device used in the video are by far surpassing the ones of the NCW8QC16G but I wasn't able to locate any minimum requirements so I think and hope it's doable.
I would only need a Micro USB OTG adapter to be able to plug in a wireless mouse and keyboard (which is currently in the mail).
I could load the installation image into a micro SD and then go to PC Settings\Update and Recovery\Recovery\Advanced Startup(restart now)\Troubleshoot\Advanced Options\ and try to make it boot into bios from there. or try pressing the usual combination of keys in my keyboard upon boot to access bios on a regular computer might work although I fear the chances are slim. Once we get into the boot menu and confirm that we can boot from SD I think the rest would be easy as shown in the video.
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that would be great if we can get some form of linux on it if we can figure out how to do so then this tablet would be great perhaps maybe using an old ubuntu recovery might work but that's just a guess and the recovery might have to be in the same format as the windows recovery or file type but that's good that others are working on this
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why cant we just use part of sdcard as ram to run vbox
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Sloogle_Flugelmann said:
I also uploaded the recovery files:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mc9cbhntkpxqcgp/nextbook+recovery.rar
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thank you
@Sloogle_Flugelmann
Thx for the recovery image link.
I've tried all the options and I'm unable to get the recovery image to load after extracting them to a usb.
I actually managed to get Win10 build 9926 loaded on my nextbook via the OTG and usb drive. Got the internal wifi working after using a wifi dongle via OTG first then doing and update. Win10 doesn't seem to update drivers like Win8 does.
Also, anyone know what are the drivers for the different hardware on the NXW8QC16?
Sucks that touchscreen, etc don't work in Win10 preview, but it's probably to be expected.
I'm going to try my Win8.1 Pro image and to see if it picks up the drivers then.
Btw, I'm also trying the 64 bit version of Win8.1 since the processor in my tablet says it's 64bit capable and had a 32bit operating system loaded. Yes, I know that I don't need a 64bit OS since the tablet's only got 1GB ram, but while I'm playing around (struggling withit) so why not
Nextbook Flexx 11
A 200-250$ 2-in-1 laptop.
CPU: 1.83 GHz Intel Atom Z3735F Quad-Core
RAM: 2 GBs
SSD: 64GBs
Screen: 11.6" Touchscreen
Ports: 1 x MicroHDMI, 1 x MicroUSB 2.0, 2 x USB 2.0
Micro SD Card slot
Installing every linux based OS(Android, RemixOS, Linux Distros)
Prerequisites:
A bootia32.efi file (Found in attachments)
A copy of your favorite linux distro
Rufus, UNetbootin, or a USB disk image write of your choice.
A flash you can wipe, and boot from
A little bit of time
Step 1: Setting up
First thing you'll need to do is use your image writer to write the iso to your USB.
MAKE SURE YOU SELECTED THE RIGHT USB DRIVE!
I cannot stress this enough, if you don't want to lose everything on another flash drive, or your hard drive, check and make sure you are using the right drive letter.
Do not restart now. We need to add some files to it.
Extract bootia32.efi and copy it to /boot/efi on your flash drive.
So this was some instructions I made for booting it, but this is much more complicated than it should be. You can totally disregard this spoiler.
Step 2: Booting
Plug your USB into your nextbook (if you haven't already) and turn it on/reboot it.
As its powering on, hold ESC to get into the boot options.
Click "Boot Manager" and select your USB drive.
IF IT DOESN'T SHOW UP, FORMAT YOUR USB DRIVE TO FAT32 AND GO BACK TO STEP 1.
Now, 2 things may happen, it may boot up perfectly, and from there, just follow the steps to install.
If it doesn't boot properly, we'll need to type a few commands.
Step 2.1: Grub Command Line.
So if it doesn't boot up properly, which chances are it wont, you'll be dropped into a command line.
This is grub, if you didn't know, and to boot we need to locate the drive its on.
First press FN+Ins to turn off NumLk, then type,
Code:
linux (hd
now if you press tab, it should list everything you have attached, for example:
Code:
hd0, hd1, hd2, hd3
The usb will most likely be hd0. So now you should have
Code:
linux (hd0,
If you press tab again, it will list off all of your partitions, or autofill one in.
Now you should have either:
Code:
1. linux (hd0,msdos1)
2. linux (hd0,gpt1)
Now, if you have this, type this(replace hd0,gpt1 with what you got):
Code:
set root=(hd0,gpt1)
then type
(new)Step 2: Creating a boot file.
So, now that you have the files copied over, you need to name the drive.
Right click your drive, and click Rename... (Remember the drive name, its important)
After you renamed your drive, create a folder at DriveLetter:/boot/grub
In that directory, create a file named grub.cfg
Now depending on your linux version, you'll have either syslinux, or grub already.
If grub: The file should already be there, so you can move on to step 3.
If syslinux: Find the isolinux.cfg or syslinux.cfg (probably in /syslinux or in /isolinux)
It will look something like:
Code:
label LinuxVersion
kernel /kernelFile
append initrd=/initrdFile (more options)
We're going to use these options to create our grub.cfg file.
Use this as a template.
Code:
menuentry 'LinuxVersion' {
search --set=root --label THIS_IS_WHERE_THE_LABEL_YOU_SET_EARLIER_GOES
linux /kernelFile (more options)
initrd /initrdFile
}
Step 3: Boot into your new OS.
Reboot your PC. When it turns back on, hold ESC.
You should be brought back to the BIOS area.
Press "Boot Manager" (you will need a mouse for this), and select your USB drive.
If you did everything correctly, it should boot.
Step 4: Go wild!
You should be booted, GO CRAZY!
There are a few problems with most distros, including:
No Wifi
No Bluetooth
No Gyroscope
No Audio
There are drivers online for these, but you need to be able to patch a kernel, and build/install a driver.
Wifi
Is the guide not working?
Go ahead and ask some questions, don't be afraid of help.
Useful resources:
Ubuntu with Wifi (Source)
Thats all the links for now. I will add more as I find them (hopefully to fix audio, power button, and rotation)
Huge thanks to Ian Morrison for the Ubuntu iso.
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Any chance you're going to do the linux?
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I'm guessing that is where the linux how to, is going.
Dude.. You gonna finish this?
set code=(hd0,msdos1)
Then type
Type what? Need a complete tutorial here...
I'm so sorry
Chaosmstr said:
Dude.. You gonna finish this?
set code=(hd0,msdos1)
Then type
Type what? Need a complete tutorial here...
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I apologize for the delay, busy with school and all.
You can't leave us hanging like this!
I'm not sure about OP here, but I have the smaller model of this device being the Flexx 10. Now I haven't tried to boot Android on it, but I have successfully booted Linux Mint with it.
First I would recommend using a USB OTG capable flash drive (they are available at office stores, walmart, and so on and so forth,) or an OTG adaptor instead of using a full sized usb. The reason for this is stability of the booted system as the connection of the keyboard dock does not appear to be extremely reliable. This may vary by model or device but I would still recommend it as you may need the full sized USB ports later.
Now instead of using Unetbootin, I used Rufus. I used the settings of GTP for efi and bios to write the image to the drive. I didn't mess with any other settings there. After that I had to get a file called bootia32.efi and then add it to the /efi/BOOT/ before the system would even try to recognize it. From there it was just waiting patiently while it booted. (use the instructions in the earlier post to get to the boot options of the UEFI) It took it a while to boot as I suspect the USB speed was rather slow.
As I didn't really have time to really mess with it and get to the point of install, I will list the issues I came across.
1: Automatic rotation of the screen did not work.
2: wifi (RTL8723BS SDIO)
3: bluetooth
4: sound
everything else seemed to work just fine though, even the volume rocker, windows button and power button on the tablet section reacted and did things. not entirely useful, but they did work.
Edit: forgot to mention that if you go through with the install, you will have to finish the install by doing some grub modifications to make it boot without a live disk. just a heads up.
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I'm not sure about OP here, but I have the smaller model of this device being the Flexx 10. Now I haven't tried to boot Android on it, but I have successfully booted Linux Mint with it.
First I would recommend using a USB OTG capable flash drive (they are available at office stores, walmart, and so on and so forth,) or an OTG adaptor instead of using a full sized usb. The reason for this is stability of the booted system as the connection of the keyboard dock does not appear to be extremely reliable. This may vary by model or device but I would still recommend it as you may need the full sized USB ports later.
Now instead of using Unetbootin, I used Rufus. I used the settings of GTP for efi and bios to write the image to the drive. I didn't mess with any other settings there. After that I had to get a file called bootia32.efi and then add it to the /efi/BOOT/ before the system would even try to recognize it. From there it was just waiting patiently while it booted. (use the instructions in the earlier post to get to the boot options of the UEFI) It took it a while to boot as I suspect the USB speed was rather slow.
As I didn't really have time to really mess with it and get to the point of install, I will list the issues I came across.
1: Automatic rotation of the screen did not work.
2: wifi (RTL8723BS SDIO)
3: bluetooth
4: sound
everything else seemed to work just fine though, even the volume rocker, windows button and power button on the tablet section reacted and did things. not entirely useful, but they did work.
Edit: forgot to mention that if you go through with the install, you will have to finish the install by doing some grub modifications to make it boot without a live disk. just a heads up.
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Sorry I'm coming back so late, I've been busy with life.
The Wifi issue can be fixed by building the driver (https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs)
The bluetooth wont work on most OS' because it relies on some windows drivers to work.
I might be able to find a driver for screen rotation/audio.
Another issue is the power doesn't get registered, and the touch screen is VERY flaky.
Kitsumi said:
Sorry I'm coming back so late, I've been busy with life.
The Wifi issue can be fixed by building the driver (URL removed per post restrictions.)
The bluetooth wont work on most OS' because it relies on some windows drivers to work.
I might be able to find a driver for screen rotation/audio.
Another issue is the power doesn't get registered, and the touch screen is VERY flaky.
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I didn't really notice that power one as I did not use it long, but I think that is just an atom thing. My old n270 based aspire one does that too.
Really though, the way I would use it, I wouldn't miss screen rotation or the bluetooth, but the touch screen is the nuisance. What I noticed with it is that when the screen is forced into proper orientation (by use of screen rotation in the settings, you know without using the command line) is that the touch screen doesn't follow the new orientation correctly. It appears to have the portrait resolution set to the top left of the screen in landscape. That said, it works fine in portait. Or at least managably.
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I didn't really notice that power one as I did not use it long, but I think that is just an atom thing. My old n270 based aspire one does that too.
Really though, the way I would use it, I wouldn't miss screen rotation or the bluetooth, but the touch screen is the nuisance. What I noticed with it is that when the screen is forced into proper orientation (by use of screen rotation in the settings, you know without using the command line) is that the touch screen doesn't follow the new orientation correctly. It appears to have the portrait resolution set to the top left of the screen in landscape. That said, it works fine in portait. Or at least managably.
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Well, I decied to try and boot remixOS, and it works VERY well, so does android-x86 5.0
That being said, audio is a glaring issue.
When you tried Remix OS and say it worked very well. What do you mean? What actually worked? Obviously audio is what doesn't since you mentioned it. But am I to assume that screen rotation works as expected then?
I'm not willing to use REMIX OS personally as the whole android bit is a limiting factor to me. Unless it rooted of ccourse. but even then some of my prefered uses for Linux is lost.
Also hows the hardware acceleration?
How do I install the x64 version of Windows? I downloaded the ISO with the Media Creation Tool and it won't boot from the USB drive. I enabled USB booting and made sure secure boot was off, but it's not working. It keeps saying there's no USB device available.
Unfortunately due to the way that Windows works, the 64 bit version is not usable due to the bootloader difference. Even though the hardware of the device is capable of 64 bit code execution, the 32 bit UEFI Bootloader will only allow a 32 bit version of Windows or a 64 bit version of Linux with some EFI fiddling. And as far as I know there is not a way to fiddle with the EFI related workings of a Windows ISO so 64 bit Windows is not possible on these Nexbook devices or others with similar hardware (Asus t100 is a good example of similar device)
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Unfortunately due to the way that Windows works, the 64 bit version is not usable due to the bootloader difference. Even though the hardware of the device is capable of 64 bit code execution, the 32 bit UEFI Bootloader will only allow a 32 bit version of Windows or a 64 bit version of Linux with some EFI fiddling. And as far as I know there is not a way to fiddle with the EFI related workings of a Windows ISO so 64 bit Windows is not possible on these Nexbook devices or others with similar hardware (Asus t100 is a good example of similar device)
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That's really dumb. Most Windows devices are 64-bit nowadays. Why would they put in a 64-bit processor but not allow x64 operating systems?
You're guess is as good as mine on that one. Ask Microsoft on that one. They used the 32 bit version because Microsoft will only give the "Windows XX (originally 8.1) with bing 32bit for free. Which keeps the device cost down. Kinda hard to to sell a cheapskate device when it ends up costing as much as a better speced laptop.
Where can I find recovery images for this? I messed up and now I don't have audio or touchscreen drivers.
You can try this web site from Efun themselves
http://nextbookusa.com/recovery/index.html That is their official recovery download site.
(apparently I can post links...)
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You can try this web site from Efun themselves
http://nextbookusa.com/recovery/index.html That is their official recovery download site.
(apparently I can post links...)
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I tried that. It says there's no recovery option for this model....
Do you have this tablet? Do you think you could do a driver backup and upload it here? Or create a recovery image and share it?
Hello everyone!
I just bought a real oldie - a HTC Shift X9500.
I owned one back in the days, and still remember it fondly. So I jumped at the bargain of getting another one for just 30 euros.
Unfortunately, this one's physical keyboard has some keys which don't work.
I thought I might reset it to factory settings, in the hope of solving the problem.
But!
Fn+ F3 asks me to confirm (Y/N) if I want the system reset - and the Y and N keys are among the ones which don't work! So it's just sitting there doing nothing, because I can't confirm the operation.
Is there any alternative way of resetting it - like running a command line or something , avoiding the use of the keyboard for confirmation?
Thanks!
Hi, congrats on reacquiring the HTC Shift!
I'm guessing you have already tried an external USB keyboard and that it doesn't work prior to the OS booting.
What OS are you trying to boot - which version of Windows are you trying to boot?
If you have an external USB DVD drive, you could boot directly from a Windows DVD and hope that the non-functional keys are not necessary. I would imagine the mouse can be used for most of the installation.
If it's Windows 10 that you are going to use, then you can search for "windows media creator" and download the windows media creation tool from Microsoft which allows you to create a bootable USB stick. Such a stick can be booted from the Shift by pressing DEL at power on and selecting the USB device for boot. You may also have to adjust your BIOS permit booting from USB. Again, I think the whole process would be possible by mouse interactions.
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Hi, congrats on reacquiring the HTC Shift!
I'm guessing you have already tried an external USB keyboard and that it doesn't work prior to the OS booting.
What OS are you trying to boot - which version of Windows are you trying to boot?
If you have an external USB DVD drive, you could boot directly from a Windows DVD and hope that the non-functional keys are not necessary. I would imagine the mouse can be used for most of the installation.
If it's Windows 10 that you are going to use, then you can search for "windows media creator" and download the windows media creation tool from Microsoft which allows you to create a bootable USB stick. Such a stick can be booted from the Shift by pressing DEL at power on and selecting the USB device for boot. You may also have to adjust your BIOS permit booting from USB. Again, I think the whole process would be possible by mouse interactions.
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Thanks a lot - I didn't think about using an external USB keyboard! I'll also try the Windows 10 USB stick install, and keep you posted on how it goes!
So, my phone's bricked - it won't boot, just brings up fastboot. As the solution to this problem appears to be to use the MSM tool to do an "actual" factory reset, I downloaded the MSM tool, and the decrypted ROM from this link: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=8889791610682918291.
First I tried this on a Windows 7 VirtualBox VM (I use Ubuntu on my actual computer). The drivers didn't even install right it seems, and the device (in EDL mode) wasn't even recognized. Then I tried it on my mom's Windows 10 laptop. MSM never showed the device as connected. I think possibly the lack of a USB 2 port could be the cause.
Finally I set up a basic VM with Windows 10 and a USB 2 controller, and it worked-ish. MSM recognized the device, showed it as connected and started doing its thing, but stopped at "Sahara Communication failed". What is preventing it from getting past this? I'm using the cable provided in the box. Everything is recognized correctly. I've retried multiple times but still the same result.
SUCCESS!
I had a spare laptop lying around, and it has USB 2 ports. I loaded WIndows 10 onto it and tried the MSM from there -- AND IT WORKED!
As much as I hate Qualcomm for their monopolistic business practices, I thank them for EDL mode. I also thank OnePlus for somehow failing to prevent the MSM tool from entering the hands of the public every time, and @Some_Random_Username for trafficking this good. Yeet!
Glad you got it sorted and left some feedback! cheers
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So, my phone's bricked - it won't boot, just brings up fastboot. As the solution to this problem appears to be to use the MSM tool to do an "actual" factory reset, I downloaded the MSM tool, and the decrypted ROM from this link: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=8889791610682918291.
First I tried this on a Windows 7 VirtualBox VM (I use Ubuntu on my actual computer). The drivers didn't even install right it seems, and the device (in EDL mode) wasn't even recognized. Then I tried it on my mom's Windows 10 laptop. MSM never showed the device as connected. I think possibly the lack of a USB 2 port could be the cause.
Finally I set up a basic VM with Windows 10 and a USB 2 controller, and it worked-ish. MSM recognized the device, showed it as connected and started doing its thing, but stopped at "Sahara Communication failed". What is preventing it from getting past this? I'm using the cable provided in the box. Everything is recognized correctly. I've retried multiple times but still the same result.
SUCCESS!
I had a spare laptop lying around, and it has USB 2 ports. I loaded WIndows 10 onto it and tried the MSM from there -- AND IT WORKED!
As much as I hate Qualcomm for their monopolistic business practices, I thank them for EDL mode. I also thank OnePlus for somehow failing to prevent the MSM tool from entering the hands of the public every time, and @Some_Random_Username for trafficking this good. Yeet!
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Hi crispy-cat,
Looks I have the same problem as you did. Using Kubuntu and Windows10 in VirtualBox.
My device is not recognized when I boot into edl-mode so I can't use MSM to unbrick my device. It does not pop up in devicemanager when I connect it with the original usb cable.
Can you explain the set up of a USB 2 controller? What is it hardware or software? I am not familiar to this and don't understand what you did. I think this can help me figuring out how to get the MSM tool working for me and flash the original OS back to the device.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a windows computer.
The USB controller is part of VirtualBox. I think you need to download and install the extensions pack for the USB 2.0 version. The problem is that the controller is not capable of the absolute direct communication that the software needs to work, or it just doesn't connect fast enough. This would be a great example of why Windows on a USB would be great, since you could just boot it. But then MS wouldn't be able to make its billions. So we lose.
I'd try VMWare and KVM to see if they do any better. I'm not sure if WINE supports USB passthrough or not. Otherwise try to find a Windows box you can use.
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The USB controller is part of VirtualBox. I think you need to download and install the extensions pack for the USB 2.0 version. The problem is that the controller is not capable of the absolute direct communication that the software needs to work, or it just doesn't connect fast enough. This would be a great example of why Windows on a USB would be great, since you could just boot it. But then MS wouldn't be able to make its billions. So we lose.
I'd try VMWare and KVM to see if they do any better. I'm not sure if WINE supports USB passthrough or not. Otherwise try to find a Windows box you can use.
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Thanx crispy-cat,
I now understand what you mean. My V-Box is broken and won't start up anymore so it's time to try out the alternatives or install V-Box again ;-)
If those options won't work I think the best solution is to buy Windows10 and install this on the computer. What are your ideas about the last option crispy-cat?
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Thanx crispy-cat,
I now understand what you mean. My V-Box is broken and won't start up anymore so it's time to try out the alternatives or install V-Box again ;-)
If those options won't work I think the best solution is to buy Windows10 and install this on the computer. What are your ideas about the last option crispy-cat?
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Don't waste your money. Just download the ISO from here:
Download Windows 10 Disc Image (ISO File)
If your computer supports multiple SSDs, find one that works in it, and install it in the second slot. Otherwise, find the cheapest SSD you can that works and install it on there.
The reason I say to install on a separate disk is because resizing partitions can corrupt your data and make your computer unbootable, and Windows doesn't provide an option to install alongside your existing OS. By all means do not get rid of your existing OS.
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Don't waste your money. Just download the ISO from here:
Download Windows 10 Disc Image (ISO File)
If your computer supports multiple SSDs, find one that works in it, and install it in the second slot. Otherwise, find the cheapest SSD you can that works and install it on there.
The reason I say to install on a separate disk is because resizing partitions can corrupt your data and make your computer unbootable, and Windows doesn't provide an option to install alongside your existing OS. By all means do not get rid of your existing OS.
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Hi crispy-cat,
Thanx for your advise and the link. I have a laptop with one SSD in it and there is no room for a second SSD.
I have external harddisks I use for storage (no SSD) and was thinking what is the best option for me:
1) Buy an external SSD for Windows. I am wondering if and how this will work. The OS on the laptop is Kubuntu. I can change the boot option in the Bios and select the SSD. Because the OS is on the SSD and not on the laptop do I have access to the USB ports on the laptop via Windows which runs on the SSD? The purpose is to connect the bricked phone to one of the USB ports and use the MSM tool to unbrick my device.
2) Buy a USB flash drive and write the ISO from your link to the flashdrive. Install Windows on the laptop via the flashdrive. This will overwrite the current OS. When I can unlock my phone in Windows with the MSM tool I can install Kubuntu back again on the laptop.
It is no problem for me to change the OS because I don't lose any files. Everything I need is on the external harddisks.
What are your ideas about this and is there another option available that could work for me?
Dualboot with Windows/Kubuntu is a alternatieve but can also be tricky.
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Hi crispy-cat,
Thanx for your advise and the link. I have a laptop with one SSD in it and there is no room for a second SSD.
I have external harddisks I use for storage (no SSD) and was thinking what is the best option for me:
1) Buy an external SSD for Windows. I am wondering if and how this will work. The OS on the laptop is Kubuntu. I can change the boot option in the Bios and select the SSD. Because the OS is on the SSD and not on the laptop do I have access to the USB ports on the laptop via Windows which runs on the SSD? The purpose is to connect the bricked phone to one of the USB ports and use the MSM tool to unbrick my device.
2) Buy a USB flash drive and write the ISO from your link to the flashdrive. Install Windows on the laptop via the flashdrive. This will overwrite the current OS. When I can unlock my phone in Windows with the MSM tool I can install Kubuntu back again on the laptop.
It is no problem for me to change the OS because I don't lose any files. Everything I need is on the external harddisks.
What are your ideas about this and is there another option available that could work for me?
Dualboot with Windows/Kubuntu is a alternatieve but can also be tricky.
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External SSDs are generally rejected by Windows and you'd have to do some very complicated setup. If it's no big deal to reinstall Kubuntu, go with option 2. Just disconnect the drives your files are on before you install Windows.
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External SSDs are generally rejected by Windows and you'd have to do some very complicated setup. If it's no big deal to reinstall Kubuntu, go with option 2. Just disconnect the drives your files are on before you install Windows.
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Thanks for your help friend.
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So, my phone's bricked - it won't boot, just brings up fastboot. As the solution to this problem appears to be to use the MSM tool to do an "actual" factory reset, I downloaded the MSM tool, and the decrypted ROM from this link: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=8889791610682918291.
First I tried this on a Windows 7 VirtualBox VM (I use Ubuntu on my actual computer). The drivers didn't even install right it seems, and the device (in EDL mode) wasn't even recognized. Then I tried it on my mom's Windows 10 laptop. MSM never showed the device as connected. I think possibly the lack of a USB 2 port could be the cause.
Finally I set up a basic VM with Windows 10 and a USB 2 controller, and it worked-ish. MSM recognized the device, showed it as connected and started doing its thing, but stopped at "Sahara Communication failed". What is preventing it from getting past this? I'm using the cable provided in the box. Everything is recognized correctly. I've retried multiple times but still the same result.
SUCCESS!
I had a spare laptop lying around, and it has USB 2 ports. I loaded WIndows 10 onto it and tried the MSM from there -- AND IT WORKED!
As much as I hate Qualcomm for their monopolistic business practices, I thank them for EDL mode. I also thank OnePlus for somehow failing to prevent the MSM tool from entering the hands of the public every time, and @Some_Random_Username for trafficking this good. Yeet!
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In msm tool its showing sahara communication problom..
Please help me
Nafih424 said:
In msm tool its showing sahara communication problom..
Please help me
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Are you using the cable that came with the phone?
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Are you using the cable that came with the phone?
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Yes same cable.
I'm not sure what's wrong then, sorry. Maybe someone who knows more about this can help.
Hello, having same problem here.
I have a Op 6T and after trying to install twrp as a system app, it kept me boot-failing twrp over and over again with screen flashing then immediately shutting down, now my phone is unable to boot with volume and power button, and I can't even see it with fastboot command, even though my desktop sees it..
Same issue. was someone able to resolve this?
I got my OnePlus 7 to be seen on virtualbox but driver shows exclamation mark on guest windows 10 OS.
crispy-cat said:
So, my phone's bricked - it won't boot, just brings up fastboot. As the solution to this problem appears to be to use the MSM tool to do an "actual" factory reset, I downloaded the MSM tool, and the decrypted ROM from this link: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=8889791610682918291.
First I tried this on a Windows 7 VirtualBox VM (I use Ubuntu on my actual computer). The drivers didn't even install right it seems, and the device (in EDL mode) wasn't even recognized. Then I tried it on my mom's Windows 10 laptop. MSM never showed the device as connected. I think possibly the lack of a USB 2 port could be the cause.
Finally I set up a basic VM with Windows 10 and a USB 2 controller, and it worked-ish. MSM recognized the device, showed it as connected and started doing its thing, but stopped at "Sahara Communication failed". What is preventing it from getting past this? I'm using the cable provided in the box. Everything is recognized correctly. I've retried multiple times but still the same result.
SUCCESS!
I had a spare laptop lying around, and it has USB 2 ports. I loaded WIndows 10 onto it and tried the MSM from there -- AND IT WORKED!
As much as I hate Qualcomm for their monopolistic business practices, I thank them for EDL mode. I also thank OnePlus for somehow failing to prevent the MSM tool from entering the hands of the public every time, and @Some_Random_Username for trafficking this good. Yeet!
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Hello
I had the same issue now and don't have alternative laptop.
any solution to fix within the same laptop?
Thanks
Ak24607 said:
Hello
I had the same issue now and don't have alternative laptop.
any solution to fix within the same laptop?
Thanks
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I had this issue before. You need to try a different cable/USB port.
FIX - PRESS (VOLUME+) + (VOLUME -) and connect the phone in EDL mode.
When you get the error, DONT DISCONNECT!!!!!!!!
Just PRess (VOLUME+) + Power Button and hold for few seconds.
IT DOES THE WORK!!!!!
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FIX - PRESS (VOLUME+) + (VOLUME -) and connect the phone in EDL mode.
When you get the error, DONT DISCONNECT!!!!!!!!
Just PRess (VOLUME+) + Power Button and hold for few seconds.
IT DOES THE WORK!!!!!
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I am using my Mac, and having windows using parallers. My device is getting detected in EDL. MSM shows that it's connected. But after 16s it says Sahara connection Failed. I was on siberia OS 12, wanted to revert back, and messed it up. Now the device doesn't boot up, can't access the fastboot as well - FASTBOOT is frozen.
Any help here would be great, else I might have to get a new phone
Hey guys,
I build a new pc, first new build in 20 years.
I’m using an ASUs tug gaming x670e plus WiFi motherboard with and 7800x3d cpu.
I’m stuck with the windows installation from usb.
First attempt I used a SanDisk 8gb stick and windows media creator. That’s right load, but looking back that was probably because of bios settings.
second attempt I used a leef 16gb stick. Art the verify stage at 99% it failed.
Third attempt save stick same method created the usb successfully. Had to pay around a lot with bios settings to get the stick seen as bootable. But during the windows installation it reported a file inaccessible or missing. Soo I put the stick in another machine to check but the file in question was there.
Soo I tried again, but now it cannot start up from the usb stick.
I’m in progress of creating an iso usb using the 8gb SanDisk drive, but I think I’m missing something significant.
I’ve attached my bios settings for booting.
If anyone can give some clarification, that would be greatly appreciated! If I can’t die this tonight I’ll bring it in a shop this weekend (just for a windows installation, sigh)
This... happy hunting.
Make a cloned copy of the disk once loaded and configured but before adding data, antivirus or trashware with Acronis to a spare hdd for easy OS restore.
*Redundantly backup critical data, first*
Separate data drives + OS drive are best plus the backup drives that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Managed to get an install.
Had to change a few bios settings (apparently one of the videos I watched for the right bios settings was the exact opposite of what was needed). Agassi used an iso stick.
That seemed to do the trick.
Thanks for the suggestions. It’s much appreciated.
I managed to get things installed. My issues were a combination of bad luck with my usb drives (and how the bootable stick was generated), as well as some poor advice on YouTube that told me the opposite of what was needed.
I also had problems obtaining an activation key legally, but that got resolved as well, so I finally managed to get my pc up and running.
Thanks again for the suggestions!