Hi all...
I have mate 8
L29
I make root after unlock bootloader by mistake make formate for system data everything
I am not make backup
I buy from Dubai
I search about stock firmware and how relock bootloader
All not work
I need to restore the original stock
Anyone can help
Thanks
lionheart1910 said:
Hi all...
I have mate 8
L29
I make root after unlock bootloader by mistake make formate for system data everything
I am not make backup
I buy from Dubai
I search about stock firmware and how relock bootloader
All not work
I need to restore the original stock
Anyone can help
Thanks
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Bro check private message
rowihel2012 said:
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Thanks
rowihel2012 said:
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Why don't you answer in public instead of private Maybe it can help other people too.
Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-L29 using Tapatalk
somboons said:
Why don't you answer in public instead of private Maybe it can help other people too.
Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-L29 using Tapatalk
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sorry bro
will post the backup here after upload
rowihel2012 said:
sorry bro
will post the backup here after upload
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Send me the answer plz plz i need it ASAP!
Thanks
Faisal Alro8y said:
Send me the answer plz plz i need it ASAP!
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https://mega.nz/#!wBEgyCiC
!NzU5PsK1ndpxcj-m0AIiMSmF1VyTeMd7WcCxvVHmxKE
I download now...
I flash by Twrp directly or what
lionheart1910 said:
I download now...
I flash by Twrp directly or what
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Use last twrp recovery to restore this backup
rowihel2012 said:
Use last twrp recovery to restore this backup
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Hi i flashed everything is ok
But themes not applying
lionheart1910 said:
Hi i flashed everything is ok
But themes not applying
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Mmmm
Really don't know why is that
Did you try relock bootloader?
I dont know how i relock bootliader
lionheart1910 said:
I dont know how i relock bootliader
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fastboot oem relock (code)
question.
rowihel2012 said:
fastboot oem relock (code)
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will locking the bootloader resolve the them apk problem?
Thanks!
Hi, I am facing the same problem. I came from a rare stock L29C20B120 Rom and flash to B180 Rooted without backing up anything. Now everything is running haywire and I need to return to stock. Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Flash C900Bxxx rom and then try to search for your firmware from Huawei servers
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bluheart said:
Flash C900Bxxx rom and then try to search for your firmware from Huawei servers
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Do you mean flash stock C900Bxxx rom? In order to do that I must relock the bootloader right? And what about the emui Recovery?
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Pls anyone, help a poor fella out here. I know it's a mistake to blindly flash and I have learned my lesson the hard way.... :crying:
No need to repack the boot
Just flash the ROM via TWRP (neglect the error) or dload method and then reboot into recovery via volume-up and power, wipe and then reboot
bluheart said:
No need to repack the boot
Just flash the ROM via TWRP (neglect the error) or dload method and then reboot into recovery via volume-up and power, wipe and then reboot
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Thank you very much bluheart. Will flashing this way remove SuperSU rooting and TWRP? And install Stock EMUI recovery at the same time?
Yes, it's same
Related
Hello guys i'm on LineageOS but i don't know how to downgrade to stock Marshmallow, i tried to search on forum but didnt find something useful to me. Can Someone help me?
Hello
Do.you have access to TWRP and unlocked bootloader? Also, you gonna need to save your bootloader unlock code
MatoXD said:
Hello
Do.you have access to TWRP and unlocked bootloader? Also, you gonna need to save your bootloader unlock code
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I have twrp and unlocked bootloader Also unlock code
arberinho said:
I have twrp and unlocked bootloader Also unlock code
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Whts your OEM version C432 or C636?
arberinho said:
I have twrp and unlocked bootloader Also unlock code
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You can try flashing oeminfo and then stock UPDATE.app via force EMUI update, but data might get deleted
MatoXD said:
You can try flashing oeminfo and then stock UPDATE.app via force EMUI update, but data might get deleted
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i tried to d in this method, but with emui 5.0 beta doesn't work
97filippo said:
i tried to d in this method, but with emui 5.0 beta doesn't work
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I can probably see right now, you've done it wrong... Download stock rom from huawei.consumer... For some reason i thought it's gonna be android MM, but it was android N, so no problem here, just download stock rom and you will have newest android.
You probably downloader rom from xda, rom it's in .zip right? And you tried to flash it with TWRP?
MatoXD said:
I can probably see right now, you've done it wrong... Download stock rom from huawei.consumer... For some reason i thought it's gonna be android MM, but it was android N, so no problem here, just download stock rom and you will have newest android.
You probably downloader rom from xda, rom it's in .zip right? And you tried to flash it with TWRP?
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already tried with dload mode... nothing works and i can't flash any custom recovery... in cmd i see FAILED when i do fastboot flash recovery path/recovery.img (path=c:\user\etc...)
MatoXD said:
I can probably see right now, you've done it wrong... Download stock rom from huawei.consumer... For some reason i thought it's gonna be android MM, but it was android N, so no problem here, just download stock rom and you will have newest android.
You probably downloader rom from xda, rom it's in .zip right? And you tried to flash it with TWRP?
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Where Can i download the stock rom?
arberinho said:
Where Can i download the stock rom?
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You can find stock ROMs there https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/nougat-official-firmware-t3512932
So Guys i can install stock nougat Just by installing b360 with TWRP?
arberinho said:
So Guys i can install stock nougat Just by installing b360 with TWRP?
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it seems like that
97filippo said:
it seems like that
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I need a safe mode bro, i don't want to brick
arberinho said:
I need a safe mode bro, i don't want to brick
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man read the guide, it's wrote that u do that at your own risck. it could brick or it couldn't
97filippo said:
man read the guide, it's wrote that u do that at your own risck. it could brick or it couldn't
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I know but usually It bricks if i don't follow the right steps, i was Just asking if Someone had my same problem
is more secure doing with twrp because u can do a backup. i made with BETA app and nonw i have a lot of problems
97filippo said:
i tried to d in this method, but with emui 5.0 beta doesn't work
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Yesterday I had this issue, it's more easy than it seems. In Revolution Recovery for Nougat, flash the update.app ZIP with 6.0 , it will show you a lot of errors, but don't worry, it's ok. After this flash than DUALSIMOEM.zip and after that shutdown your phone and use the 3 buttons method to automatically ,,update" to B161.
robi10101298 said:
Yesterday I had this issue, it's more easy than it seems. In Revolution Recovery for Nougat, flash the update.app ZIP with 6.0 , it will show you a lot of errors, but don't worry, it's ok. After this flash than DUALSIMOEM.zip and after that shutdown your phone and use the 3 buttons method to automatically ,,update" to B161.
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I tried to install that recovery but i can't.. When i flash it in cmd i see FAILED... I'll send a screen asap from my pc
97filippo said:
I tried to install that recovery but i can't.. When i flash it in cmd i see FAILED... I'll send a screen asap from my pc
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That's because u don t have the bootloader unlocked Also, verify in Developer Options to have Enable OEM on, that's why you have an error in CMD
robi10101298 said:
That's because u don t have the bootloader unlocked Also, verify in Developer Options to have Enable OEM on, that's why you have an error in CMD
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i have unlocked my bootloader, but i need to check OEM.. ty
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i ust unlocked OEM, this evening i'll try to fix my phone! thank you man.. i failed that lel
Hi, i really need Erecovery img, you can pull it by commands in terminal:
Su
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p22 of=/storage/emulated/0/
Thanks
That does not work on the P8 lite 2017. What firmware do you have. I then upload the recovery.
Need Stock Rom for GR3 2017 (PRA-LX2C636B160)
ChinHon said:
That does not work on the P8 lite 2017. What firmware do you have. I then upload the recovery.
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Please share Stock Rom for my Huawei GR3 2017 (PRA-LX2C636B160). I have already Bricked my phone and unable to restore my self because I was unable to find stock ROM for LX2C636B160 at Google. That's, why I had to send my phone to customer care & now my phone, is ok. But now I am afraid to root and twrp my phone if it brick again, so please share it with me...
linksolver said:
Please share Stock Rom for my Huawei GR3 2017 (PRA-LX2C636B160). I have already Bricked my phone and unable to restore my self because I was unable to find stock ROM for LX2C636B160 at Google. That's, why I had to send my phone to customer care & now my phone, is ok. But now I am afraid to root and twrp my phone if it brick again, so please share it with me...
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Look here:
https://www.google.de/amp/s/forum.x...wei-p8-lite-2017-pra-lx2-camera-t3649794/amp/
ChinHon said:
Look here:
https://www.google.de/amp/s/forum.x...wei-p8-lite-2017-pra-lx2-camera-t3649794/amp/
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But I still Need stock recovery, can you tell me where I can found it or how can I exert it from my mobile?
linksolver said:
But I still Need stock recovery, can you tell me where I can found it or how can I exert it from my mobile?
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No problem !
https://mega.nz/#F!0pEwlDoQ!o6eOH-6f_z9DHmQsHrjzPA
ChinHon said:
Look here:
https://www.google.de/amp/s/forum.x...wei-p8-lite-2017-pra-lx2-camera-t3649794/amp/
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No problem !
https://mega.nz/#F!0pEwlDoQ!o6eOH-6f_z9DHmQsHrjzPA
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:laugh:Thanks, I will Try this and post again if it works
I have recently bricked my p10 lite and I am not sure which firmware I need to bring my phone back. It is from the UK and the model WAS-LX1A. Any help is very appreciated
a09hopper said:
I have recently bricked my p10 lite and I am not sure which firmware I need to bring my phone back. It is from the UK and the model WAS-LX1A. Any help is very appreciated
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What you do?
rambik33 said:
What you do?
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I tried unrooting from the superSU app
a09hopper said:
I tried unrooting from the superSU app
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Try flash boot.img from you firmware.
rambik33 said:
Try flash boot.img from you firmware.
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where can i get this from and how do i know which firmware to use?
a09hopper said:
where can i get this from and how do i know which firmware to use?
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It is very easy, via fastboot .
I unbricked my WAS-LX1A with C432B182 stock rom.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p10-lite/help/original-service-rom-huawei-p10-lite-t3688097
rambik33 said:
It is very easy, via fastboot .
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Sorry for the noob question but how can I flash the ROM with fastboot or TWRP?
a09hopper said:
Sorry for the noob question but how can I flash the ROM with fastboot or TWRP?
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But you are having unlock bootloader?) How you do this is?
I can help you via teamviewer)))
rambik33 said:
But you are having unlock bootloader?) How you do this is?
I can help you via teamviewer)))
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Please can you help
okay so I'm not a developer or modder just a usual xda member
I'm here today to give a guide for those that have issues regarding getting back to stock especially the Malaysian variant
What u need :
A rooted honor 5x with stock firmware
Flashfire from playstore
Official update from honor
Downloads Link
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24438995911971573 Thanks @gopinaidu77
http://download-c.huawei.com/download/downloadCenter?downloadId=83346&version=327474&siteCode=in-h
The update file
First:
Perform a TWRP restore using gopinaidu77 link.
After Restoring bakup Root your phone with the Twrp recovery
Second :
Download the Dload package from HiHonor Official site and download Flashfire which can be found in the Playstore
Place the Dload folder in your sdcard after you extract it using 7zip
Third (how to use flashfire) :
1. click on the plus button on the button right
2. select flash firmware package
3. browse dload location and select Update.app ( wait for the scan to finish )
4. you will be presented with partition ( select Boot,System,Vendor,Cache) if u want to get back to stock recovery then select recovery
5. (optional) if u want to maintain root click on EverRoot select inject SUPERSU and enable ADB
6. scroll down and click flash
your done . Tested on my Honor 5x Malaysian Variant.
It's my first time writing a guide and trying posting something and I'm not a native english speaker hope you guys understand my guide.
feel free to ask question ill try my best to repond to them on my free time
The easiest way to return to stock is to use e-recovery
nekocrewz said:
okay so I'm not a developer or modder just a usual xda member
I'm here today to give a guide for those that have issues regarding getting back to stock especially the Malaysian variant
What u need :
A rooted honor 5x with stock firmware
Flashfire from playstore
Official update from honor
Downloads Link
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24438995911971573 Thanks @gopinaidu77
http://download-c.huawei.com/download/downloadCenter?downloadId=83346&version=327474&siteCode=in-h
The update file
First:
Perform a TWRP restore using gopinaidu77 link.
After Restoring bakup Root your phone with the Twrp recovery
Second :
Download the Dload package from HiHonor Official site and download Flashfire which can be found in the Playstore
Place the Dload folder in your sdcard after you extract it using 7zip
Third (how to use flashfire) :
1. click on the plus button on the button right
2. select flash firmware package
3. browse dload location and select Update.app ( wait for the scan to finish )
4. you will be presented with partition ( select Boot,System,Vendor,Cache) if u want to get back to stock recovery then select recovery
5. (optional) if u want to maintain root click on EverRoot select inject SUPERSU and enable ADB
6. scroll down and click flash
your done . Tested on my Honor 5x Malaysian Variant.
It's my first time writing a guide and trying posting something and I'm not a native english speaker hope you guys understand my guide.
feel free to ask question ill try my best to repond to them on my free time
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Thanks for share..
Hey guys, I want to know if I will get Otas after flashing the 6.0.1 firmware through dload method. How long before updates pop up?
swukjay said:
The easiest way to return to stock is to use e-recovery
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what's that
Mohamed Elhadad said:
what's that
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Hold down the Volume + button and Power button and connect to power source phone will boot into erecovery
swukjay said:
The easiest way to return to stock is to use e-recovery
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Well the malaysian variant is not as easy as that always get stuck on bootloop
hassanjavaid8181 said:
Thanks for share..
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your welcome
kemdroid said:
Hey guys, I want to know if I will get Otas after flashing the 6.0.1 firmware through dload method. How long before updates pop up?
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Im not sure of it . I use firmware finder to find OTAs much2 easier and faster and u can find how to flash OTAs somewhere in the honor 5x thread
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Im not sure of it . I use firmware finder to find OTAs much2 easier and faster and u can find how to flash OTAs somewhere in the honor 5x thread
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Thanks for the update. I know how to find firmwarew. But when I flash them, it fails.
kemdroid said:
Thanks for the update. I know how to find firmwarew. But when I flash them, it fails.
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For that if it fails u need to relock the oem with adb if u still have your 16 digit codes and refer how to update using the link below
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x/how-to/manual-ota-update-guide-update-app-t3445976
kemdroid said:
Thanks for the update. I know how to find firmwarew. But when I flash them, it fails.
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Which firmware you were on last time on stock??
You can only flash same firmware or higher number firmware..
hassanjavaid8181 said:
Which firmware you were on last time on stock??
You can only flash same firmware or higher number firmware..
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I was on b331 and wanted b350
kemdroid said:
I was on b331 and wanted b350
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B350 is giving error??
kemdroid said:
I was on b331 and wanted b350
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Try checking with ur imei theres an option that allows u if the update is eligible for ur device
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B350 is giving error??
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Yea.
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nekocrewz said:
Try checking with ur imei theres an option that allows u if the update is eligible for ur device
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Did all that and nothing works. I'm good though. On dotOs. Not going back to stock.
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Yea.
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Did all that and nothing works. I'm good though. On dotOs. Not going back to stock.
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yea stock is kinda not that good better stay on custom haha
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yea stock is kinda not that good better stay on custom haha
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Lol yea. Ago suggestion on setting my cores etc so it don't slow down? I always experience so slow moments like this is an old phone. Sigh. Esp with GPS or data
kemdroid said:
Lol yea. Ago suggestion on setting my cores etc so it don't slow down? I always experience so slow moments like this is an old phone. Sigh. Esp with GPS or data
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If ur on custom flash astral kernel and use greenify . I did try overclocking this device but not worth it so better use the first thing i suggested
nekocrewz said:
If ur on custom flash astral kernel and use greenify . I did try overclocking this device but not worth it so better use the first thing i suggested
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What metbod you use for overclocking?
Hi everyone, today I will be telling you all how to get back to stock as long as your bootloader states "PHONE Unlocked" and "FRP Unlock"
You will need to install this, this is super duper important! https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/development/tool-flash-official-firmware-recovery-t3769279
When installing, you will see the error: "E: Unknown command []]"
DO NOT BE AFRAID!
That is supposed to happen lol.
Installation procedure -
1. Flash this TWRP: https://drive.google.com/file/d/18uHjW73Th8iYKIs5m_QgwleMIOjsZd7S/view?usp=sharing
2. Wipe everything except SD card, then choose "Format data" to decrypt device
3. Reboot once again into TWRP (NOTE: If you are using USB OTG cable, make sure to plug it in AFTER TWRP is fully booted and ready to go, if you do it early, you get an error, which is weird lol. EDIT: Not sure if this error is still present in the new twrp, but it's never bad to play it safe.)
4. Flash HuRUpdater, make sure the file names are correct!
5. Reboot into stock recovery
6. Factory reset and wipe cache partition
7. Reboot
This method also enables themes to work again, so no need to worry about that!
Lots of thanks to @zxz0O0 to providing this awesome tool
And more thanks to the OpenKirin community for helping me out when flashing this! :good::good::good:
hello crayonicle, hehe im on the dot os for now, im interested going back to stock. will i get official updates backs from honor if i go back to stock using this method?
do i need to install the HuRUpdater only as the instruction shows? or follow as the link to the other thread shows?
Alvin Owen said:
hello crayonicle, hehe im on the dot os for now, im interested going back to stock. will i get official updates backs from honor if i go back to stock using this method?
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(Used to say you can't update ota... but now you can lol)
EDIT: what the...
I flashed it using the method in the original post, of course, and I got an update notification to update system! So yes, updating works!!!! lol
crayonicle said:
Most likely not, the moment you unlock bootloader, you get no updates from that point forward. Just check using this for latest version: http://pro-teammt.ru/huawei-firmware-finder/
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oh so i do need to follow the instructions in the other thread and download the official firmware for the 7x?
Hi !
Does it work to restore on the BND-L21C432B121 ? Because it's marked for 7X but does it works on all firmware versions of this device ?
Thanks !
hi op,
does this work on L24 the usa version?
What update.zip file did you use? can you point to the link?
Also, does this update take the recovery to stock with no TWRP?
vikra007 said:
hi op,
does this work on L24 the usa version?
What update.zip file did you use? can you point to the link?
Also, does this update take the recovery to stock with no TWRP?
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Yes, after flashing this via twrp, if you reboot once again to recovery, it is stock recovery, not twrp.
http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G2649/g1699/v133897/f2/full/update.zip
http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G2649/g1699/v133897/f2/full/BND-L24_hw_usa/update_full_BND-L24_hw_usa.zip
http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G2649/g1699/v133897/f2/full/public/update_data_full_public.zip
You need to download all 3 files and rename them.
DaRkLinK_35 said:
Hi !
Does it work to restore on the BND-L21C432B121 ? Because it's marked for 7X but does it works on all firmware versions of this device ?
Thanks !
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Yes, this works for all Honor 7x variants.
crayonicle said:
Yes, after flashing this via twrp, if you reboot once again to recovery, it is stock recovery, not twrp.
http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G2649/g1699/v133897/f2/full/update.zip
http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...BND-L24_hw_usa/update_full_BND-L24_hw_usa.zip
http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...97/f2/full/public/update_data_full_public.zip
You need to download all 3 files and rename them.
Yes, this works for all Honor 7x variants.
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What do you need to rename them to? Are the instructions for that in the thread you posted for the tool?
kingd421 said:
What do you need to rename them to? Are the instructions for that in the thread you posted for the tool?
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Yes, they are in the link for HuRUpdater, read them carefully! :good:
crayonicle said:
Yes, they are in the link for HuRUpdater, read them carefully! :good:
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I updated using the script. Thank you.
I see the OTA update but it failed to install. Do I need to relock the bootloader?
vikra007 said:
I updated using the script. Thank you.
I see the OTA update but it failed to install. Do I need to relock the bootloader?
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I would assume so. I sent a support ticket to honor regarding the issue (I had the same problem as you) but I went back to custom ROMs so I can't help you here sorry.
vikra007 said:
I updated using the script. Thank you.
I see the OTA update but it failed to install. Do I need to relock the bootloader?
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Did you try running the update again? I had a similar problem after I unrooted and reinstalled the stock recovery. It failed the first time but when I rebooted and did it again it worked.
crayonicle said:
I would assume so. I sent a support ticket to honor regarding the issue (I had the same problem as you) but I went back to custom ROMs so I can't help you here sorry.
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looks like modem update didnt update properly. I am not able to place a call. other apps seem to be fine with data. BTW, what custom rom are you using?
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vikra007 said:
looks like modem update didnt update properly. I am not able to place a call. other apps seem to be fine with data. BTW, what custom rom are you using?
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Also, which twrp to use again? Getting Failed: remote: partition length get error) when I try to flash recovery through fast boot
hey
i want to rolll back but im not able to get into twrp after succesfully flashing it.
can u help me pls
BigDiqSeitz said:
hey
i want to rolll back but im not able to get into twrp after succesfully flashing it.
can u help me pls
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So, use this twrp:
https://transfer.sh/FRHlD/Twrp_p10_lite_0.5_Pretoriano8.img
crayonicle said:
So, use this twrp:
https://transfer.sh/FRHlD/Twrp_p10_lite_0.5_Pretoriano8.img
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worked fine for me thx ))))
Does this work for bnd-l34 mate se?
madgoogler said:
Does this work for bnd-l34 mate se?
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It should.
Sent from my BND-L24 using Tapatalk