Hello, my S5 is currently stock unrooted on KK 4.4.4 ANK7 and lately I've been thinking on rooting. However I have a concern if it matter whether you root from Kitkat or Lollipop? Meaning are there any differences that affect rooting depending on what version of Android you're coming from? If I take the LP ota update and then root, would I be able to flash KK roms or just LP roms?
Never, under any circumstances, take an OTA update. Once you take an upgrade to Lollipop, you're stuck with it forever. If you instead root KK and flash a safe Lollipop ROM that doesn't update the bootloader past BOD5, you can still downgrade to KK easily.
It's easier to stick with what you have, root it, and then flash a rooted Lollipop ROM. Lollipop is now rootable, but the root process is a little hit-or-miss. Rooting KK is painless.
I had success using this KK root method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
CAUTION: The BOD5 bootloader is the last one that will allow you to downgrade back to KK. If you ever flash anything that has a BOE1, BOG5, or BOK3 bootloader, you can never go back.
You won't use these for the KK root process, but you'll need them later so save them: you want to ONLY flash these latest safe kernels and/or firmwares by jrkruse: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64744448&postcount=2
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Hello, I've been out of the rooting scene for over a year now since I bought my Galaxy S4. When I first bought it, i had it rooted but could not install a custom rom because it was on MF3. So, once again I am trying to get back into rooting with the latest OTA update and a NC1 baseband. I've been looking around on how to root and install a custom rom but I've been gone so long that I'm just lost.
From threads I have read I can downgrade my phone to NB1 then to MK2 to root. However, I haven't really been able to find an answer to if I can install a custom rom to it, only upgrading back to the OTA and keeping root. I have been having massive overheating problems with the stock firmware and have a large burn mark on the back of my phone and would like to switch back to CWM which i had on an old phone.
Laemon said:
Hello, I've been out of the rooting scene for over a year now since I bought my Galaxy S4. When I first bought it, i had it rooted but could not install a custom rom because it was on MF3. So, once again I am trying to get back into rooting with the latest OTA update and a NC1 baseband. I've been looking around on how to root and install a custom rom but I've been gone so long that I'm just lost.
From threads I have read I can downgrade my phone to NB1 then to MK2 to root. However, I haven't really been able to find an answer to if I can install a custom rom to it, only upgrading back to the OTA and keeping root. I have been having massive overheating problems with the stock firmware and have a large burn mark on the back of my phone and would like to switch back to CWM which i had on an old phone.
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No CWM. You can only use Safestrap, a variant of TWRP for locked bootloaders that doesn't flash kernels. Due to that restriction (if we tried to flash a custom kernel we'd get bootloader check fails) we can only run ROMs which the stock kernel supports, meaning other Touchwiz ROMs and the one GPE that's been posted in the General section. Part of the downgrade and root process is using Safestrap to update to 4.4.2 with a modified OTA, and so you just replace that step with flashing a ROM, the kernel modules, and then the ODIN files.
Hello all,
I recently installed 5.0.1 rooted on galaxy s4 I337 using muniz's method and had some questions?
The main reason I rooted was to try to get xposed so I can edit the ui, I understand that it is not working on samsung devices right now, but when it does work, I understand the only way to install it is using a custom recovery.
Since I have a locked bootloader and am on 5.0.1 I don't think there is a way to get a custom recovery on here, correct me if I'm wrong.
How would I install the xposed framework? Will flashfire be able to load it?
Also, if I were to revert back to the stock NB1 build, can I re-root and install clockworkmod (would LOKI work then?) on it and then go to a custom rom like cynogenmod or are there problems with this because I already have updated all the way to 5.0.1? (I've done this rollback through ODIN before and it's not too bad.)
I'm new to android modding so this has been a learning experience.
Thanks
Once upgraded to the locked bootloaders, there is no going back to loki. You can downgrade from 5.0.1 to 4.4.2, but you can only use safestrap recovery, and only touchwiz based firmware. Also, safestrap doesn't work on 5.0.1 yet. From what I have read, with 5.0.1 you'll have to wait and see what the developers come up with. If you care to learn more about the history of bootloaders, there is lots of info in these forums.
Engitheneer said:
Hello all,
I recently installed 5.0.1 rooted on galaxy s4 I337 using muniz's method and had some questions?
The main reason I rooted was to try to get xposed so I can edit the ui, I understand that it is not working on samsung devices right now, but when it does work, I understand the only way to install it is using a custom recovery.
Since I have a locked bootloader and am on 5.0.1 I don't think there is a way to get a custom recovery on here, correct me if I'm wrong.
How would I install the xposed framework? Will flashfire be able to load it?
Also, if I were to revert back to the stock NB1 build, can I re-root and install clockworkmod (would LOKI work then?) on it and then go to a custom rom like cynogenmod or are there problems with this because I already have updated all the way to 5.0.1? (I've done this rollback through ODIN before and it's not too bad.)
I'm new to android modding so this has been a learning experience.
Thanks
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If xposed ever is updated to support Lollipop Touchwiz, you'll be able to flash it using Flashfire or using the Safestrap workaround (flash 4.4 kernel so you can get into safestrap, flash files, then flash 5.0 kernel). There's no way to go back to CWM or TWRP past the old MF3 4.2.2 update, which has long come and gone now.
Hello,
I have a rooted i337 with MDL baseband, running stock 4.2.2 firmware. I am currently out of the US and therefore cannot receive any OTA. I want to upgrade to Lollipop or Marshmallow based custom ROMs, esp those that can still use the IR feature of the S4.
Can anyone guide me on how I do this upgrade, without bricking my phone? Would truly appreciate your help. Thanks.
Have you tried running ota updates via wifi without a SIM card in the phone.
To run a custom rom, you would need to install a custom recovery to flash the rom. Some mm and LP ROMs may not work with a 4.2.2 modem and bootloader.
If you want to use a custom ROM, DO NOT take any OTA updates. If you take an OTA and it is successful, then you will no longer be able to install a custom ROM.
Here is the Cyanogenmod thread to install CM to your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3008609
If you would like to update to official ATT/Samsung lollipop(there is also a way to have root)[remember, once you take an official update from MDL, then you will no longer be able to install a custom ROM and you may never be able to get Marshmallow]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2926642
Will the exploit "Working Root Method For 5.0 Lollipop Roms [OE1] [OG5] [OK3] [PB1] [3-3-16]" work on Marshmallow after getting the MM ota (flashed stock G900VBPB1 prior to downloading)
No. Attempting it will most likely softbrick your device, and possibly hardbrick.
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Will the exploit "Working Root Method For 5.0 Lollipop Roms [OE1] [OG5] [OK3] [PB1] [3-3-16]" work on Marshmallow after getting the MM ota (flashed stock G900VBPB1 prior to downloading)
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Nandr0idC0nsumer is correct, but you still can get root on MM even after having taken the OTA. However you will need to flash back to PB1, root PB1, then unlock the PB1 bootloader; after which you will need to do the MM bootloader Unlock and root method, http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
Install Custom Recovery Samsung Galaxy AT&T S4 SGH-I337 Ver 5.0.1 Non-Rooted. OK2
Hello, I Want to do some modifications to my Samsung Galaxy S4 and Have so many questions that I am not sure were to start? Yes I'm a noob but learning. I have a SGH-I337 phone that is unlocked so I use it for T-mobile. The phone came with KitKat 4.4.2 NB1 firmware but I managed to update it manually to the latest firmware OK2.
What I would like to do is install a custom recovery and install a clean non bloated Rom. Maybe a custom such as CyanogenMod? Questions: Is there any recovery software that will work on my present upgraded phone such as Safestrap, TWARP,PhilZ or CWM and in doing so I am guessing I need to root my phone first? When you root a phone does that unlock the boot loader? I have read articles saying you can only install custom recovery on the older firmware such as kitkat 4.4.2. or unless a update comes out. I also have read articles that I cannot downgrade and am not sure what that means as I have read articles that I can use Odin and reinstall my stock firmware NB1 is that true? Is there a way to downgrade your upgrades?
I see a lot of articles how to install recovery software but they do not always say what firmware version they are installing it to so I wont even try it. I am guessing-it is the older firmware 4.4.2.
I have read I can flash my kernel to an older Kernel such as NB1 then root it install a custom recovery then upgrade the kernel again? Not sure it I can upgrade or downgrade kernels that are for my phone?
I did manage to root my phone awhile back when it had kitkat 4.4.2 NB1 but had problems later on with my touch screen going crazy as if someone was in my phone so I brought it back to stock by using Odin and reinstalling NB1 firmware hoping to fix the problem. After installing stock firmware I decided to upgrade to lollipop 5.0.1 OB2 and that is were I am now. About my touch screen going crazy I have been reading it may be due to cheap USB chargers which I am using but that is another story.
Well any-help or leads would be appreciated.
Maybe if I wait long enough someone will come up with a custom ROM for my latest firmware as well as rooting it?
Steve