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I replaced the loud speaker on my evo with an oem i ordered online. It was a very easy fix and everything is good now. As I was putting in the new speaker I started to think of how good my TP2 sounded when I used the loud speaker. It just had a nice crisp sound that I havent been able to get out of my Evo. I searched and found a TP2 replacement and from what I can see, it looks just like it! I am about to order one to try it just wanted to get some feedback on this before i waste money. Why is the sound on tp2 better? Thanks.
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Loud-Speaker-p/htc737530.htm
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Wouldn't the case itself make a difference in this? The TP2 had a pretty open back panel to allow sound to pass through. Or at least I remember that being the case. All the holes could have been fake. I gave mine to a family member when I got my Evo so can't check.
Might be a better speaker, but I doubt it will ever sound as good.
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Wouldn't the case itself make a difference in this? The TP2 had a pretty open back panel to allow sound to pass through. Or at least I remember that being the case. All the holes could have been fake. I gave mine to a family member when I got my Evo so can't check.
Might be a better speaker, but I doubt it will ever sound as good.
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You are probably right. I gave mine away also and havent looked at one in a while. Thanks.
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Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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...http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Loud-Speaker-p/htc737530.htm
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It looks like that site has a minimum quantity required for ordering items. Is there a way around that or are you going to order the minimum and resell them?
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It looks like that site has a minimum quantity required for ordering items. Is there a way around that or are you going to order the minimum and resell them?
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I must have missed that. I was only using the site to show the photo. I will find it somewhere else.
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cor4twenty said:
Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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If thats the case i guess that kills the idea then.
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They both use the same parts...same thing with the headset speaker
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They both use the same parts...same thing with the headset speaker
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So I guess mobius999 was right then. It is the back cover that makes all the difference.
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Yuppers...different cases produce different soubds
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The sound doesn't look like it travels directly out of the speaker from what I saw when I took my 0003 apart, that plastic gasket makes me thing an attempt to "BOSE" it up...
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I'm not sure if the TP2 has 2 speakers or just 2 speaker ports, but sound is definitely emitted from both holes to the left & right of the camera. (see attached photos) I can confirm it sounds much, much better than my Evo, it is louder and reproduces a wider range of frequencies.
It looks like sound quality on the Evo may have been sacrificed for the dual flash. (TP2 always took horrible photos for me.) If the TP2 and Evo share the same single speaker, the improvements are likely attributable to the case. Perhaps some modifications to the speaker / camera housing and the battery cover could yield an improvement.
If the current speaker porting on the Evo restricts airflow excessively it would lower the volume and could cause additional stress on the speaker itself causing them to fail prematurely and / or sound like crap. I am no expert in this specific speaker technology but at a basic level there is a physical mechanism moving which in turn moves the air (aka sound). If the air flow is constricted it will provide increased resistance against the speaker.
From what I remember the TP2 had two speakers. Not for stereo but for different ranges...one was lows and the other was highs. You could cover up each speaker while music was playing and hear the difference as you moved your finger from speaker to speaker.
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I'm not sure if the TP2 has 2 speakers or just 2 speaker ports, but sound is definitely emitted from both holes to the left & right of the camera. (see attached photos) I can confirm it sounds much, much better than my Evo, it is louder and reproduces a wider range of frequencies.
It looks like sound quality on the Evo may have been sacrificed for the dual flash. (TP2 always took horrible photos for me.) If the TP2 and Evo share the same single speaker, the improvements are likely attributable to the case. Perhaps some modifications to the speaker / camera housing and the battery cover could yield an improvement.
If the current speaker porting on the Evo restricts airflow excessively it would lower the volume and could cause additional stress on the speaker itself causing them to fail prematurely and / or sound like crap. I am no expert in this specific speaker technology but at a basic level there is a physical mechanism moving which in turn moves the air (aka sound). If the air flow is constricted it will provide increased resistance against the speaker.
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This is exactly what I gathered after reading some of peoples input including yours. Even if the speakers are the same, I don't think it will make a difference. The back cover and housing are the key I think. Im going to play around with it this weekend see what I can come up with.
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Hey all, the audio quality from the speakers are supposed to be a selling point of the phone.. not many reviewers speak about it in the video review or even give an example of what it sounds like... so not intuitive and extra frustrating lol. Does anyone have it and can compare it to the HTC one boom sound quality or the Iphone 4s good speaker quality? Now that i have an HTC One, the only way i would go to the LG G2 is if the audio quality from the speakers hold up to the hype LG displayed at their event. replies are appreciated.
Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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yeah i watched that yesterday... again left in the dark... i was hoping that it sounded close to the HTC One as it's the best audio i've heard on a phone next to the Iphone 4 and 4s. thanks for the reply!
Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet
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yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet
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I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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right.. but the reason i'm intrigued is because they're supposed to be really good.. LG had a presentation on the speakers. The Htc one sounds very very good.. it could come out of the box louder but there's a way you can make them louder and still sound crisp. It's second to none i've tried so far. going to something lesser than hurts the mind and deprives the ears when you know there's a better option.
Darkestred said:
I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?
The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.
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The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.
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ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol
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ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol
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hehe, yup. Definitely a cool feature if you like quality sounding music though.
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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?
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99.9% sure, based on a post I read from someone who already has the phone, as well as the phone's manual, which only draws a line to one grill with the "Speaker" label. No manual is perfect, but I'm fairly confident that a split line would have been drawn to each grill if it had stereo external speakers.
Right side is the only speaker. It sounds better than the GS4, but not as good as the HTC One.
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Look at the Verizon version... It has speakers only on right side.
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No version has 2 speakers, the other grill is the mic.
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The speaker(s) on the lg g2 do sound better than the s3. Can't comment on the s4. The lg g2 is more warm sounding and higher pitched timbre's sound more realistic vs the s3. They are of equal sound volume, however.
It's about as loud as my n4 but actually has more bass, not saying its much, but its more than a n4 or gs3.
i hate the fact that there's a built in compressor/limiter on the speakers, and there's some kind of weird stereo thing going on where it might only be giving ONE channel, rather than both left/right out of the speaker.
i rememebr reading on the international version that there was EQ settings and whatnot somewhere...wonder if we can unlock them somehow? then maybe we can turn that stupid limiter off.
Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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Right side is the ONLY speaker, though it 'looks like' 2 in the bottom.
Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
Poor you... I wish I had your problems. Nevermind that a cellphone speaker sounds like complete garbage no matter where it's positioned. Maybe you should return the Note 4 and get a boombox instead.
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Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
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You can edit the mixer_paths.xml and boost you speaker if you are rooted. I know it isnt really fix for the speaker but since you cant physically move the speaker to a new position , its all you really got . For me personally it doesnt make a difference but Im not coming from the Note 3 , Im coming from the GS5 which has the same speaker position.
HTC is the only company that got it right.
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Poor you... I wish I had your problems. Nevermind that a cellphone speaker sounds like complete garbage no matter where it's positioned. Maybe you should return the Note 4 and get a boombox instead.
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Sorry im not a audiophile I guess like yourself, sounds doesn't sound that bad to me the speaker placement was a horrible choice should've just left it on the bottom like the note3 would of been way better than where its at now. Im wondering if they did that because of the finger print scanner.
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HTC is the only company that got it right.
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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
probably so we wont scratch that 20 inch camera on the back! I mean, why is it even poking out like that?!?!!??! its begging to be scratched, get broken if its continuously place on the back /rant
We will see those things on the note 5 lol
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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
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Not having stereo on the X was disappointing but then again not really a big deal on a device that's so small. We'll see how the 6 fairs
the note 4 isnt geared towards sound hence, why samsung doesnt waste R&D on speakers that most people rarely use. I rarely use my speakers on my notes. If im not bluetoothed or streaming, its on silent. lol
The speaker on the Note 4 is clearer and louder than that on the Note 3. Fact.
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Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
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You won't scratch the screen from putting it screen down on a table. Gorilla glass is amazing man! I do agree that speakers on the rear suck though.
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the note 4 isnt geared towards sound hence, why samsung doesnt waste R&D on speakers that most people rarely use. I rarely use my speakers on my notes. If im not bluetoothed or streaming, its on silent. lol
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I have to agree there, I feel if i need to blast music they would be attach to some form of speaker lol. other wise, the sound is being stream through my bluetooth...or being stream to my tv lol
I hear there is a patent that stops them from putting it on the front.... Not 100% sure but I guess it's possible. I agree it's stupid being on the back but this Note 4 is a beast. I came from a Galaxy S5.
For me the speakers are perfect since I hold my phone with one hand and two i usually have a finger in the bottom holding the phone up and it used to cover the bottom speakers on my note 3, I sounds good and clear what do you expect surround sound.
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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
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Moto g 2014 also.
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Has any phone ever used the front speaker for calls and system/media audio? I would think it would be pretty obvious to move the back speaker to the front and control the volume with software depending on if your in a call or playing music or whatever.
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The speaker is really the only thing left in the Note series that could really use some improvement. Everything gets incremental upgrades except for the speaker.
the speaker on the back is lame imo, but it does sound very good-so not sure how much I can really complain. It is very loud using speakerphone speaker and the ringtone/alarm. Certainly better than the Note 2/3 that I owned.
the HTC M* is still the best for media output for youtube or other video playback. I still wish HTC would have made a M8 5.97" phone.
The biggest problem with a rear speaker, is that when the phone is lying on it's back, the sound gets extremely muffled. This is especially true when using a case. Horrible, horrible design choice by Samsung.
Thanks all for taking the time to read. I have a Verizon Galaxy Note 3, 4.4.2 NC2, Rooted with stock rom. The earpiece sound is playing however, and I know this sounds strange, the sounds is playing mostly opposite to the front side of the phone. It is much louder on the back side. It is as if the normal front firing side of a speaker has been reversed to fire sound in the opposite direction. The sound is neither garbled, nor distorted, it is however to low for me to hear properly from the front which has two effects, the 1st being that calls without headphones plugged in are useless, 2nd and vastly more important, is that I am unable to convince onlookers that I am not entirely retarded as they watch me hold the back side of the phone to my face while the shiny bright screen illuminates, and thereby alerts all in the vicinity to snap photos. Under normal circumstances I would be embarrassed, but 3-5 times a week a few good souls walk by and drop money near me or offer kinds words of encouragement like "Limitations only go so far son, you keep trying" or "You keep playing the hand your dealt, one day you will think the game was worth the while" or my personal favorite " Good job buddy, there are no disabilities, only people with other abilities"
Things have tried so far:
Factory reset - No help
Changed Rom - No help
Changed speaker module - No help
If anyone has any suggestions I would be most appreciative.
What are you using to play your media? Stock player? There is an equalizer and also adaptive sound to change your listening pleasure. There are also various other apps, with better equalizers, you can download and use. I'm not sure what else you can do. My note 5 and Droid RAZR have better sound quality externally than my note3, but my note 3, using the headphone jack, never let's me down.
Careful with the photo stalking. Gl!
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Thanks Dravekx,
I am sure that I wrote was I was trying to say in a very confusing manor. What I was trying to say was that the earpiece itself (the one you listen through when on a call) is low in volume from the front but mostly normal sounding coming inexplicably out of the back of the phone, inexplicable because there is of course no speaker on the opposite backside of the phones front earpiece speaker. It's just the weirdest thing ever. I do appreciate your suggestions though!
Cheers
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What are you using to play your media? Stock player? There is an equalizer and also adaptive sound to change your listening pleasure. There are also various other apps, with better equalizers, you can download and use. I'm not sure what else you can do. My note 5 and Droid RAZR have better sound quality externally than my note3, but my note 3, using the headphone jack, never let's me down.
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Recently I found my Z3c had a dramatic drop in earpiece volume. I could barely hear the caller's voice when in a quiet surrounding (like office or home), and impossible to follow the talk when outside. This was quite annoying, because it's a phone and making calls is one of its essentials regardless of whatever extra functions added to it. So I did a lot of work trying to bring the volume back. I rooted the phone (eventually), tried some sound mod, and even worked on the mixer_paths.xml directly. None of these gave me any luck. As the problem seemed irrelevant to the software flaw at the stage, I was thinking about possible hardware cause.
The first thing I did was to open the top side flap, which covers the micro SD and USB. Then I made a call to my voicemail and compared the voice I heard from both the flap opening and the top speaker. I could tell immediately that the sound was much louder and clearer from the flap opening, while the sound from the top speaker was distant and isolated. Wait a sec...
From my research on posts, I was told that there is a film lying on the speakers to make the Z3c dust proof. You can see them through the speaker cuts. To allow the sound goes through it, the film has to be perforated. Could those tiny holes be blocked after spending time with dust, water and soap (yes I did wash my Z3c frequently, thanks Sony for the water proof!). A user did mention the volume on both speakers were much gained after removing those films. I don't want to go extreme, but that did give me a hint.
So I used a pair of tweezers, with pointed tips. I slightly scratched them on those films. Immediately the color changed from dark black to lighter gray. I kept scratching them and made the grey evenly, and made another call to the voicemail. Guess what...the earpiece volume was noticeably increased! Then I airbrushed those films and tried again, this time I could not tell the improvement, but the sound was loud enough that I could hear the voice even from a distance. Now the sound coming from the flap opening would also match with that from the top speaker. I would call it a success.
To summarize: what I did was simply cleaning those meshed films on the speakers, by scratching dust off them. These films can be penetrated if you pushed too hard, so please be gentle. And I'm not sure if this trick would work for others, I'm just sharing my experience, with a good wish that this could work for others who are also bothered by the low in-call volume as I was. Still, try those software fix as well, as the cause to the same phenomenon may be different.
Thanks for reading. Let me know your comments/thoughts/tricks and treats (Happy Halloween!)
Thanks for sharing, I have same issue --- did you test its waterproofing if it still works after cleaning the speaker's mesh?
Has anyone issue with the lower speaker? I actually tried to touch it, its very hollow --- are all units like this? Thank you.
Shizuwi said:
Thanks for sharing, I have same issue --- did you test its waterproofing if it still works after cleaning the speaker's mesh?
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Had it showered once, nothing wrong so far.
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Had it showered once, nothing wrong so far.
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done, so far great improvement with sound, i can hear the other person on the phone better --- but not sure about my bottom speaker, its very hollow.
This was one of the reasons why I'd sent in my phone. I thought the speaker was broken. Seems they've just cleaned or replaced that mesh because the volume works well on the returned phone.
Thanks for sharing :good::good:
I push chewing gum in to the grills and mic to clean them out.
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wow.. it realy works... thanks a lot bro ... !!!
Thx for sharing I'll try it
How does such a thin layer of perforated material manage to block so much sound?
You're my hero!!!!!
I was about to send it back cause of the awfully low earpiece volume. Now that I have cleaned it it's even too loud!
Thanks mate I really appreciated it
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Great tip bro. Immediate improvement to volume level. However I guess I pushed it further that the sound is now cracking at high volume when the phone rings.
But am still happy that I can hear the other party.
Good job man.
Those of you who are claiming this works, could you please go into your service menu (*#*#service#*#*) from your dialer and run the stereo speaker test? Do both speakers have the same volume output or is one significantly louder than the other?
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So, I'm almost embarrassed to report that I had no issues with my earpiece, but thought I'd give this method of "cleaning" it out a try. I used a piece of chewing gum to remove any dirt from the screen and almost immediately noticed a drastic DECREASE in output from that speaker. Now, calls sound hollow and tinny, and the stereo speaker affect is nearly gone because the top speaker is so much quieter.
I'm afraid that I somehow caused my top speaker to produce less sound by trying this method. I've tried to wipe away any sticky residue caused by the gum, but nothing seems to help. I can't send my phone back to Sony because it's been rooted and they wont honor the warranty. I can't believe that thin piece of speaker grill would actually be able to block sound. What now?
I managed to get higher volume by cleaning the upper speaker with a chewing-gum but my operation removed the thin grey layer. Do you think I've lost waterproof?
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I managed to get higher volume by cleaning the upper speaker with a chewing-gum but my operation removed the thin grey layer. Do you think I've lost waterproof?
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No you haven't. Speaker attached to the lcd panel by a plastic staff so water can't goes inside.. I removed the speaker cover too but i admit without that cover phone looks ugly
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No you haven't. Speaker attached to the lcd panel by a plastic staff so water can't goes inside.. I removed the speaker cover too but i admit without that cover phone looks ugly
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OK, thanks.
Has anyone tried replacing both speakers with Z3/Z3 dual/Z3+ ones? I was looking at the pictures of spare parts and it might be possible to put some of those in our Z3c, since the sound on Z3c is really low by default, and the ones on Z3 do sound quite louder.
I had same problem, could barely hear a phone call. I scrapped off the black material protecting the speaker now I can hear through the earpiece. I'm guessing now the phone is not water proof..