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TomTom SDK and TomTom3

Hi.
I use the TomTom SDK to set the target for TomTom Navigator (see following code).
Line 4 sets the target and TomTom starts the route calculation - if there is a valid GPS position. The problem I noticed is that TomTom 3 never has a valid position after execution of the SDK function. I always get a dialog box "Invalid GPS Position - select starting point: last valid gps/middle of map/..." This happens no matter whether TomTom starts up, is already running, is in map view, ...
Previous versions of TomTom would just wait for a valid GPS position without asking the user for any help. That's my desired behaviour.
One solution I found is line 3: give TomTom some time to (re)aquire the GPS position.
My questions are:
Has anyone else observed this problem?
Is there another (faster :wink: ) solution?
Line 1: CTomTomNavigatorCom::TryCloseCurrentOpenedDialogs();
Line 2: CTomTomNavigatorCom::SendDirectCommand(CTomTomNavigatorCom::KCommandAutoRecalcOff);
CTomTomNavigatorCom::SwitchToNavigatorView();
Line 3: Sleep(3000);
Line 4: c = CTomTomNavigatorCom::NavigateToCoordinate((long)(x*1E6),(long)(y*1E6),name);
Line 5: CTomTomNavigatorCom::TryCloseCurrentOpenedDialogs();

Polaris Benchmark Thread

So, i thought it would really good if we could compare our devices and help each other get more performance out of them. The aim of this thread is to see from ground up what tweaks and changes actually help improve the performance of our devices. Below i will list some methods of benchmarking i've looked up, and we all can contribute by testing our devices with the benchmark methods and help others reach the same results in the process by listing the ROM / tweaks you have used.
I'll post the first benchmark myself to help us compare to it. Ill also explain a bit more in my second post so you might have to wait for me to finish things. For accurate results close all background applications and alarms before performing these tests.
Benchmarking Methods:
1)D3D Demo:
This is from the 3D Driver Tools provided by the 3D Driver development team, all i've done is separated them into seperate CAB's. You can find them in the attachments. Wait for the first example to see the format for displaying your benchmarks.
2)Lights 3D:
Same as above, but since this one doesnt display the FPS like D3D Demo we rate the smoothness of it from 1-10 or one of the developer can supply us with a modified one to display the FPS. *hinthint*
3)Text 3D:
Same as above.
4)Triangle GL:
Same as above.
5)Video Decompression Benchmarking:
Alright so i found this on one of the forums i go to but can't remember where so i don't take credit for it. What we will do here is test the CPU for its decompression speed using the same video in different encoding. The Video is part of the Movie Iron Man. To test this we will use Core Player and its probably a good idea to use the same version so lets use the latest v1.32. All you have to do is play the 4 files (1 by 1) provided in attachments on your device in CorePlayer and goto Menu > Tools > Benchmark and let it play. Then note down the 'Average Speed' and move on to the next video.
6)SPB Benchmark v1.6:
Now i know not everyone can use every benchmark method here because these tools are not free. So just test whatever you can. SPB Benchmark basically tests everything from Read / Write Speed to applications usage to Battery and Network and CPU stress. Let just try to test whatever you think can benefit the community. I will although start by testing The 'Main' Group and the 'Storage Card' Group. The result are recorded and can be sync to your PC so you can easily copy paste it here. I will explain a bit more in the next post.
7)PocketPC Mark v1.03:
This one is also somewhat similar to the above as it tests basically most of the hardware on stress levels, i will tell you how in the next post.
8)GLBenchmark v1.0:
This is the only one i found if you have the other versions you can PM me and i'll add them here (1.1 or 2.0).
Thats all the methods i could find if you have any more let me know, and any suggestions or comments don't hesitate to comment here. Wait for my second post to start comparing.
Regards,
Lord Meshadieme
I can't seem to attach the video benchmark files, so i'll upload them. Below are the links:
Video 1
Video 2
Video 3
Video 4

Ok, sorry for the delay its hard for me during the weekdays to do anything because of university and job. So below is the format and guidelines for posting your benchmarks.
Benchmark 1:
Device: HTC Polaris (Touch Cruise)
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7200 @ 400Mhz
Memory: 256MB ROM, 128MB RAM, 4GB Sanyo MSD
ROM:RUU_Polaris_HTC_Asia_WWE_3.18.457.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15
Notes:So i decided to post the first benchmark using the default HTC ROM without any tweaks to compare the actual improvements from it.
Tweaks:None
Benchmarks:
1)D3D Demo:
Average FPS: 3.0 FPS @ 5 Mins
This tools displays the FPS on the top left part of the screen so to to benchmark just run the tools for a period of time i used 5 minutes, and note down as many speeds as you can and try to average it out. I did this mostly in my head since the value didn't fluctuate to high or low.
2)Lights 3D:
FPS Smoothness Rating: 1/10
Unfortunately this tool doesn't display the FPS, so we rate the smoothness of the FPS from a scale of 1 to 10. It gave alot of errors due to the missing driver but it did work but barely got even 1 FPS if i am assuming correctly.
3)Text 3D:
Clearness Rating: 0/10 (N/A)
Same as above but this time without drivers it doesn't display 3D at all so i can't rate it all though my second bench will include the drivers we can compare from there.
4)Triangle GL:
FPS: (N/A)
Same as above but this time without drivers it doesn't play at all so i can't rate it all though my second bench will include the drivers we can compare from there.
5)Video Decompression Benchmarking:
Video 1 Average Speed: 222.09%
Video 2 Average Speed: 114.72%
Video 3 Average Speed: 166.7%
Video 4 Average Speed: 60.54%
So basically just run the four video's in CorePlayer 1.23 one by one and goto Menu > Tools > Benchmarking.. and Note down the 'Average Speed:' from each video's results.
6)SPB Benchmark v1.6:
SPB Benchmark Index: 551.77
CPU Index: 1231.79
File System Index: 258.38
Graphic Index: 4918.45
Active Sync Index: 6410.58
We start by testing the 'Main', 'Storage Card', 'Active Sync' Benchmark modes You may compare battery if you like but the test requires you to complete a battery cycle and has minimum affect from tweaks and optimizations to my knowledge. Pocket Word is not compatible with this version or something so its better to not test for it. This test uses Pocket Internet Explorer so we have to disable Opera as the default browser, to do that just open Opera and deselect it as the default browser in settings. The test results can viewed on your computer so you can open it on your PC and use the SPB Benchmark Manager tool, goto Visualize results, copy paste the details from the first table showing the index scores like displayed above.
7)Pocket PCMark v1.03:
CPU Dhrystone: 1.20.94 MIPS
CPU Whetstone: 5.34 MWIPS
Memory: 374.76 Points
Memory Latency: 86.03 Points
File System: 492.95 Points
Storage Cards: 135.08 Points
Graphics: 87.19 Points
So for PCmarks select each test one by one and note down the results of 'Current Device:' as above. There is a problem with clicking the icons for the test it doesn't work normally but on some clicks it works, i can't seem to point out why if you do let me know but it takes awhile to get all of them clicked. When they are click the screen hangs without any notification that the test is running sometimes, so just wait until its done (Pressing Next in the result screen helps you start the next test easier). The Graphic Test gave some kind of crash is any ppc guru aware of the application gwes.exe? it crashed twice.
8)GLBenchmark v1.0:
We'll this test cannot be run under this case because of the 3D Driver problem. So wait for the Second Benchmark for the rest. Basically what you do is test the benchmark upload to a username, and check the website for the results.
Updated 19/5
Benchmark 2:
Device: HTC Polaris (Touch Cruise)
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7200 @ 400Mhz
Memory: 256MB ROM, 128MB RAM, 4GB Sanyo MSD
ROM:RUU_Polaris_HTC_Asia_WWE_3.18.457.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15
Notes:So now the second benchmark will be with the 3D Drivers installed thanks to our developers. Please Note some of the benchmark tools from the 3D Driver don't exit properly so make sure close them before trying another benchmark. I actually suggest soft resetting after using them they seem to slow down my Device.
Tweaks:3D Driver Added.
Benchmarks:
1)D3D Demo:
Average FPS: ?? FPS
FPS Smoothness Rating: 7/10 (Somewhat slower when touch screen is pressed)
The FPS didn't display on the top left part of the screen anymore so i rated it on a scale of 1 to 10, i suspect one of the developers can help fix this eventually same for the other tools.
2)Lights 3D:
FPS Smoothness Rating: 5/10
3)Text 3D:
Clearness Rating: 1/10
Although it works but the 3D text is not at all clear.
4)Triangle GL:
FPS: 311 FPS @ 2 mins (N/A)
The Second Screen (tap the triangle after a some minutes to get to the next screen) it will tell you the FPS to note down for this.
5)Video Decompression Benchmarking:
Video 1 Average Speed: 221.35%
Video 2 Average Speed: 117.86%
Video 3 Average Speed: 167.3%
Video 4 Average Speed: 60.04%
Whats interesting here, the 3D drivers seem to have little to no effect on the frame rate but did seem to have visual effect on the decoding progress, i noticed a lot of lag in the videos although the frame rate was okay it seemed to be skipping frames (mainly in the 2nd, and audio is out of sync in the 1st, 4th and 3rd). Maybe some the of developers can look into this and improve upon the drivers. This is exactly why i made this topic to help find ways to test the device and tweaks to find out what causes it to tick.
6)SPB Benchmark v1.6:
SPB Benchmark Index: 553.42
CPU Index: 1249.32
File System Index: 258.38
Graphic Index: 4796.72
Active Sync Index: 6410.58
Somewhat also awkward the Graphic index dropped, and the CPU index rose, could help if the developers research the Graphic tests performed in this software and use it. Note that i only tested the Graphics and Image related tests.
7)Pocket PCMark v1.03:
CPU Dhrystone: 1.20.94 MIPS
CPU Whetstone: 5.34 MWIPS
Memory: 374.76 Points
Memory Latency: 86.03 Points
File System: 492.95 Points
Storage Cards: 135.08 Points
Graphics: 87.34 Points
Not much of a Significant difference which would probably fluctuate anyway. Note that i only tested the Graphics Test.
8)GLBenchmark v1.0:
3D Rendering Quality: Bilinear Filter : 95% (Success)
3D Rendering Quality: Perspective Correction : 100% (Success)
3D Rendering Quality: Sub Pixel Precision : 95% (Success)
3D Rendering Quality: Trilinear Filter : 89% (Fail)
3D Rendering Quality: Z-buffer Precision : 99.1% (Success)
CPU Performance: Float : 546
CPU Performance: Integer : 5792
Fill Rate: Multi-Textured, 2x2 : 16097 kTexels/s
Fill Rate: Multi-textured, 4x2 : 18248 kTexels/s
Fill Rate: Single-textured, 4x1 : 26757 kTexels/s
GLBenchmark HD ES 1.0 : 1372 Frames
GLBenchmark HD ES 1.1 : Failed / Not supported
GLBenchmark Pro ES 1.0 : 77 Frames
GLBenchmark Pro ES 1.1 : Failed / Not supported
Lights: Ambient x 1 : 102160 Triangles/s
Lights: Omni x 1 : 41885 Triangles/s
Lights: Parallel x 1 : 103181 Triangles/s
Lights: Parallel x 2 : 2385436 Triangles/s
Lights: Parallel x 4 : 2363982 Triangles/s
Lights: Parallel x 8 : 2262844 Triangles/s
Lights: Spot x 1 : 42907 Triangles/s
Swapbuffer speed : 2027
Texture Filter: LINEAR : 2391565 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR : 2309837 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST : 2395652 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: NEAREST : 2251606 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR : 2391565 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: NEAREST_MIPMAP_NEAREST : 2396673 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 1024x1024 : 2398716 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 128x128 : 2390544 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 256x256 : 2397695 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 512x512 : 2400760 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 64x64 : 2376241 Triangles/s
Triangles: Flat Shaded + Color : 2415062 Triangles/s
Triangles: Smooth Shaded + Color : 2414040 Triangles/s
Triangles: Textured : 2389522 Triangles/s
Triangles: Textured + Color : 2384414 Triangles/s
So just goto 'Your Results' after logging in and copy paste the main results. I feel their can be alot more improvements in the drivers, lets hope our developers can do it for us.
Thats it for now.
Regards,
Lord Meshadieme

how to get the scores to compare the benchmarks?

Updated, sry for the delay.

Updated with the 2nd Benchmark, I believe we can start comparing different ROMs and what they are better for so its time for the community to pitch in! Is this worthy of a sticky? Moderator.

The idea is interresting.
Also comparing Energy use of different ROMs might be interresting.

Battery usage would also be a good comparison, i know of only 2 apps that give something like that, Pocket Battery Analyzer and one of the above mentioned SPB Benchmark has a battery selection but it will work once the battery has completely discharged once, plus the fact that a single comparison can become invalid because battery wear levels vary based on the usage of it.

Benchmark 3:
Device: HTC Polaris (Touch Cruise)
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7200 @ 400Mhz
Memory: 256MB ROM
ROM: M-Anime 2.0, Radio 1.59.42.23
Notes: Installed HTC-CA drivers after flashing ROM, required to take full advantage of drivers, plus Gfboost installed and working.
Benchmarks:
1)D3D Demo:
Average FPS: NA
FPS Smoothness Rating: 10/10 (1/3 slower when touch screen is pressed, still smooth, read touch.dll thread)
It doesn't display FPS, if you have problems closing the program, use attached tooglestart.exe before running D3Ddemo to hide taskbar and show X.
2)Lights 3D:
FPS Smoothness Rating: 10/10
3)Text 3D:
Clearness Rating: 0/10
It runs but the 3D text is not readable at all.
4)Triangle GL:
244 FPS @ 2 mins
smoothness 10/10
5)Video Decompression Benchmarking:
Video 1 Average Speed: 242.95%
Video 2 Average Speed: 103.29%
Video 3 Average Speed: 152.65%
Video 4 Average Speed: not tested/broken link.
I didn't test it with Qtv mode as it already uses accelerated mode more, it may break Gfxboost; I tested it using directdraw.
As this is a 2D test, 3D drivers won't help much by itself, here Gfboost show it's muscles, read my post on Polaris 3D Driver Development Project thread, all three test do render without skipping frames, video/audio slighty desynced in 2nd and 3rd test.
I don't get the idea of testing video or bitrates that are not adapted for PocketPC devices, they won't usually work fine as demostrated in 2nd and 3rd test, people should convert it before use, I use 320x240 H264 at 250kbps and stereo LE-AAC at 48kbps in mp4 container (Coreplayer still doesn't support HE-ACC), that's enough quality for the device.
6)SPB Benchmark v1.6:
SPB Benchmark Index: Insufficient tests done
CPU Index: 1552.28
File System Index: Not done
Graphic Index: 4159.65
Active Sync Index: Not done
7)Pocket PCMark v1.03:
CPU Dhrystone: 118.43 MIPS
CPU Whetstone: not tested
Memory: not tested
Memory Latency: not tested
File System: not tested
Storage Cards: not tested
Graphics: System hangs, test won't complete.
Sad, because it seems to be a pure 2D test and I should get higher scores.
8)GLBenchmark v1.0:
3D Rendering Quality: Bilinear Filter : 95% (Success)
3D Rendering Quality: Perspective Correction : 100% (Success)
3D Rendering Quality: Sub Pixel Precision : 95% (Success)
3D Rendering Quality: Trilinear Filter : 89% (Fail)
3D Rendering Quality: Z-buffer Precision : 99.1% (Success)
CPU Performance: Float : 546
CPU Performance: Integer : 5792
Fill Rate: Multi-Textured, 2x2 : 16097 kTexels/s
Fill Rate: Multi-textured, 4x2 : 18248 kTexels/s
Fill Rate: Single-textured, 4x1 : 26757 kTexels/s
GLBenchmark HD ES 1.0 : 1372 Frames
GLBenchmark HD ES 1.1 : Failed / Not supported
GLBenchmark Pro ES 1.0 : 77 Frames
GLBenchmark Pro ES 1.1 : Failed / Not supported
Lights: Ambient x 1 : 102160 Triangles/s
Lights: Omni x 1 : 41885 Triangles/s
Lights: Parallel x 1 : 103181 Triangles/s
Lights: Parallel x 2 : 2385436 Triangles/s
Lights: Parallel x 4 : 2363982 Triangles/s
Lights: Parallel x 8 : 2262844 Triangles/s
Lights: Spot x 1 : 42907 Triangles/s
Swapbuffer speed : 2027
Texture Filter: LINEAR : 2391565 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR : 2309837 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST : 2395652 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: NEAREST : 2251606 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR : 2391565 Triangles/s
Texture Filter: NEAREST_MIPMAP_NEAREST : 2396673 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 1024x1024 : 2398716 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 128x128 : 2390544 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 256x256 : 2397695 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 512x512 : 2400760 Triangles/s
Texture Size: 64x64 : 2376241 Triangles/s
Triangles: Flat Shaded + Color : 2415062 Triangles/s
Triangles: Smooth Shaded + Color : 2414040 Triangles/s
Triangles: Textured : 2389522 Triangles/s
Triangles: Textured + Color : 2384414 Triangles/s
As this is a pure 3D test no surprise I get similar results as Lord Meshadieme.
Battery usage testing is highly subjective, there are no two people that use the phone the same way and even if they do, there are other external factors that affect battery life like signal strength, etc, I don't think is a good idea to go ahead with it.

Video 4 Link Updated

(Q) Windows phone 7 secrets by Paul Thurrott

I managed to get hold of a book on Amazon called Windows phone 7 secrets by Paul Thurrott. I was just interested to see if anyone else has read it? I found it to be a good read and it has taught me quite a few things about WP7 that i didn't know. Best of all it tells you why Windows phones are MILES better than the Iphone 4!! You should all have a read if your into WP7. Its a good book (and i usually don't read books)

adamlayzell69 said:
I managed to get hold of a book on Amazon called Windows phone 7 secrets by Paul Thurrott. I was just interested to see if anyone else has read it? I found it to be a good read and it has taught me quite a few things about WP7 that i didn't know. Best of all it tells you why Windows phones are MILES better than the Iphone 4!! You should all have a read if your into WP7. Its a good book (and i usually don't read books)
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Could you please make a summary of that book?
Most of us know why it's going to be equal or better from android and iOS, it's because of the tools the sdk the programming language and the ease of converting or modifying existing windows applications to run on wp7 with little effort, plus the fact that there are tons of developers that they already know the programming language.

Contents.
telas said:
Could you please make a summary of that book?
Most of us know why it's going to be equal or better from android and iOS, it's because of the tools the sdk the programming language and the ease of converting or modifying existing windows applications to run on wp7 with little effort, plus the fact that there are tons of developers that they already know the programming language.
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Here are a summary of the contents if it helps??!
Contents
Introduction xvii
Chapter 1 3 Pre-Flight Checklist: What to Do Before You Get Your
Windows Phone.
Windows Live ID: One Online ID to Rule Them All 2
Using Windows Live ID to Access Your Social
Networks and Other Services 11
Picking a Phone 25
Summary 32
Chapter 2 3 Unboxing and Getting Started 33
Unboxing Your Windows Phone 34
Windows Phone Usage 52
Summary 64
Chapter 3 3 Understanding the Windows Phone User Interface 65
The Way We Were: How Microsoft Screwed Up
Mobile So Bad It Had to Start Over from Scratch 66
A New Beginning: Metro 69
Real-World Metro: A Whirlwind Tour of the UI 82
Hubs and Applications 86
Summary 100
Chapter 4 3 You and Your Friends: How to Connect with Others,
Connect to the World103
Managing Your Digital Persona 104
Being a People Person: Managing Your Family,
Friends, and Other Contacts 108
Configuring the People Hub 120
xiv Contents
Chapter 5 3 Digital Memories: Using the Pictures Hub and Camera123
Using the Pictures Hub 124
Taking Pictures and Videos with the Camera 127
Moving Photos Between the Phone and Your PC 136
Sharing Photos and Customizing Your Phone 143
Configuring Pictures Hub Options 148
Summary 149
Chapter 6 3 Zune to Go: Music + Videos 151
Using the Zune PC Software with Windows Phone 152
Enjoying Music and Video Content on Windows Phone 165
Why Zune Is Different 182
More Music: Pandora and Other Services 186
Summary 187
Chapter 7 3 Having Fun: Windows Phone and Games 189
Windows Phone: Great Mobile Gaming Platform 190
Understanding Xbox Live 194
Xbox Live on Windows Phone: Not the Full Meal Deal 200
Using the Games Hub 202
Playing a Game 206
Finding More Games in the Marketplace 207
Summary 209
Chapter 8 3 Browsing the Web 211
A (Short) History of the Mobile Web 212
Using Internet Explorer on Windows Phone 214
Configuring Internet Explorer 232
Summary 235
Chapter 9 3 Searching on the Go with Bing 237
Bing: A Different Way to Search 238
Using Bing 244
Configuring Bing 265
Summary 265
Contents xv
Chapter 10 3 Managing E‑mail on the Go 267
Push It: A Look at Mobile E‑mail 268
Understanding Accounts and E‑mail 269
Using Mail 273
Configuring Mail and E‑mail Accounts 292
Summary 294
Chapter 11 3 Tracking Your Schedule with Calendar 295
Connected Calendars 296
Glancing at Your Schedule on the Go 303
Using Calendar 305
Working with Appointments and Reminders 309
Configuring Calendar 315
Summary 316
Chapter 12 3 Getting Work Done on the Go with Office Mobile 317
Introducing the Tiniest Member of the Office Family 318
What You Can—and Can’t Do—with Office Mobile 320
Using the Office Hub 322
Accessing Online Documents 341
Configuring Office Mobile 351
Summary 352
Chapter 13 3 Making Calls and Using Voicemail 353
Configuring Contacts Accounts 354
Making and Receiving Phone Calls 355
Using Voicemail 367
Working with Bluetooth 368
Configuring Phone and Voicemail 370
Summary 375
Chapter 14 3 Text and Multimedia Messaging 377
Understanding Mobile Messaging 378
Messaging on Windows Phone 380
xvi Contents
Configuring Messaging 389
Beyond Messaging 390
Summary 391
Chapter 15 3 Digging Deeper into Phone Configuration 393
Configuring What Happens When the Phone Is Locked 394
Configuring Sounds 397
Using Windows Phone on an Airplane 399
Configuring Accounts 400
Making Region and Language Configuration Changes 404
Wi-Fi Sync 405
Nuke It from Space and Start Over 407
Summary 409
Chapter 16 3 PC and Web Integration 411
You Can’t Get There from Here 412
Browsing and Buying in the Marketplace 412
Windows Phone on the Web 420
Updating Windows Phone 430
Summary 431
Index 433

400+ pages on the WP7
im impressed, think i might take a gander i sure as hell couldnt write 400+ pages on it so there must be something i dont know about it in there!
Cheers

...Damn...
There's a lot of reading there!

If you go to Google Books http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...s by Paul Thurrott&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false you can view it there. There are a couple of pages missing though.

http://windowsphonesecrets.com/

neilarmes said:
If you go to Google Books http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...s by Paul Thurrott&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false you can view it there. There are a couple of pages missing though.
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I did have a look but there is over half the book missing.

[Updated title] Judge rules Galaxy/SGS2 violate patent. Easy fix coming from Sammy

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/24/netherlands-judge-rules-that-samsung-galaxy-s-s-ii-violate-appl/
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/8211353-breaking-news-apple-wins-samsung-lost-
I wonder what this means for SGS2's future in the U.S.?
What are the reasons:
EP 2.058.868 (Scrolling gallery)
EP 2.098.948 (Picking UP the phone.)
EP 1.964.022 (Lock screen)
Patent system needs a complete redo.
All in all, turned out to be a win for Samsung.

mattykinsx said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/24/netherlands-judge-rules-that-samsung-galaxy-s-s-ii-violate-appl/
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/8211353-breaking-news-apple-wins-samsung-lost-
I wonder what this means for SGS2's future in the U.S.?
What are the reasons:
EP 2.058.868 (Scrolling gallery)
EP 2.098.948 (Picking UP the phone.)
EP 1.964.022 (Lock screen)
All minor software concerns too. Sad.
Patent system needs a complete redo.
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Lmao nice so much for Sept 9th
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Glad I don't live in the Netherlands.

Actually the engadget article may have it wrong, scrolling through the comments there are a number of dutch speaking posters who claim the only patent infringed is the one for scrolling.
This actually appears like a big win for sammy as they have tossed the other two patents.
Further it is apparent the "look and feel" issue was thrown out.
http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/
Big hit for android tho, as that gallery app is shipped on most android devices with the exception of sense and the SE gallery iirc.

I was quoting the samfirmware website for the three patents.

The Galaxy Tab wasn't banned, so Apple loses...

This is a non-victory for Apple. The patent only affects the gallery. Samsung has already stated that they'll simply replace the Gallery app with another one. Sales won't be interrupted one bit. The two other patents as well as the design stuff was thrown out.
The patent is of course ridiculous, but that's nothing new in the world of software patents.
Too bad I don't understand Dutch to read the court order: http://ieforum.nl/backoffice/upload...1-730, KG ZA 11-731 (Apple tegen Samsung).pdf (yes, that's a valid link)

COURT IN THE HAGUE
Civil Law
Judgement interim order of August 24, 2011 (in advance)
in the case with case number / docket number: 396957 / KG ZA 11-730 of
the legal entity under foreign law
APPLE INC..,
based in Cupertino, California, USA,
Plaintiff,
Lawyer: Mr. P.J.M. von Schmidt auf Altenstadt in The Hague,
against
1. the company under foreign law
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. LIMITED,
located in Suwon City, Kyungki-Do, South Korea,
2. The private company with limited liability
Samsung Electronics Benelux BV,
established in Delft,
3. The private company with limited liability
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS LOGISTICS EUROPE BV,
located in Rijswijk,
4. The private company with limited liability
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS OVERSEAS BV,
established in Amsterdam,
Defendants,
Lawyer: Mr. B.J. Berghuis Woortman of Amsterdam,
and in the case with case number / docket number 396959 / KG ZA 11-731 of
the foreign law
APPLE INC..,
based in Cupertino, California, USA,
Plaintiff,
Lawyer: Mr. P.J.M. von Schmidt auf Altenstadt in The Hague,
against
1. the company under foreign law
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. LIMITED,
located in Suwon City, Kyungki-Do, South Korea,
2. The private company with limited liability
Samsung Electronics Benelux BV,
established in Delft,
396957 / KG ZA 11-730 and 396959 / KG ZA 11-731
August 24, 2011
2
3. The private company with limited liability
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS LOGISTICS EUROPE BV,
located in Rijswijk,
4. The private company with limited liability
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS OVERSEAS BV,
established in Amsterdam,
Defendants,
Lawyer: Mr. B.J. Berghuis Woortman of Amsterdam.
The treated cases were joined. The parties will hereinafter Apple (plaintiff) and Samsung
(Collectively defendants) are named. For Apple, the cases handled by
mr R.M. Kleemans, mr ir T.M. Blomme and mr A.A.A.C.M. van Oorschot, all lawyers
Amsterdam. Samsung Cases handled by Mr. Berghuis of Woortman,
said, and Mr. A. F. Kupecz, Mr. Ch. Gielen and Mr. R.C. of Oerle, also all
lawyer in Amsterdam.
1. The procedure
1.1. The course of the proceedings appears in:
- The summons of 27 June 2011;
- Productions 1 to 24 (KG ZA 11-730) and exhibits 1 to 30 (KG ZA 11-730)
Apple;
- In both cases: statements of defense and including counter-claim, on July 20
Samsung 2011, with exhibits 1 to 21 (KG ZA 11-730) and exhibits 1 through
34 (KG ZA 11-731);
- The letter of July 21, 2011 Apple, which Apple objects to the requirements
counterclaim, and the response by letter dated July 22, 2011 by Samsung;
- The email of July 22, 2011, which the judge makes his decision
requirements that the counterclaims in both cases will not be treated as - briefly
said - they were contrary to a due process;
- The notes to productions of Samsung mailed by July 25, 2011;
- The letter of August 3, 2011 by Samsung, with additional production 22 to 47
(KG ZA 11-730) and additional production 35 to 59 (KG ZA 11-731);
- On July 28, 2011 letter received from Apple, with additional production 31 to 44
(In both cases), in which Apple's claims on Community Design
1260624-15 withdraws;
- The bookmark (with respect to the soft IP) Samsung sent by email 2
August 2011;
- The bookmark (in respect of the prior art for patents) sent by Samsung
email from August 4, 2011;
- The letter of August 5, 2011 Apple, with additional production 45;
- The letter of August 8, 2011 by Samsung, with additional production 60 to 66;
- The letter of August 8, 2011 Apple, with additional production 46 to 50;
- The letter of August 9, 2011 by Samsung, with additional production 67;
- The email of August 9th, 2011 Apple, with additional production 51;
- The hearing held on 10 and 11 August 2011, on the occasion
whose lawyers have submitted pleadings.
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1.2. By email from the August 10 hearing and documents are as out of time
denied. Furthermore, both in court and again on a provisional claim
submitted. After consideration, the parties have indicated this further consultation to this issue.
This consultation has resulted in the provisional claims need not be
decision, as communicated by email from Mr. Kleemans of August 12, 2011.
1.3. Sentence is determined by September 15, 2011 but will now advance to
be pronounced.
2. Facts
2.1. Apple is a global developer and manufacturer of computers,
consumer electronics, operating systems and software. Its products include
more the iPhone, a smartphone called, and the iPad, a tablet computer. Both
Apple products are in different versions on the market.
2.2. Apple is the proprietor of European patent EP 2059868 (hereafter EP 868) for a
"Portable Electronic Device for photo management", issued on September 29, 2010
application of 31 August 2007, claiming priority under seven U.S.
patent applications: U.S. 824769 P (September 6, 2006), U.S. 883785 P (January 6, 2007), U.S.
879 253 P (7 January 2007), U.S. 879469 P (January 8, 2007), U.S. 937 993 U.S. 947 118 P and P
(Both June 29, 2007) and U.S. 848210 (30 August 2007). Netherlands is one of the
gedesigneerde countries. Against the grant of EP 868 is the time to sue
no opposition.
2.3. The claims of EP 868 are in the original English language:
1. A computer-implemented method, comp rising:
at a device (100) with a touch screen (112):
detecting (2402) a first movement (2310) or a physical object on or near the touch screen
Display (112);
while detecting the first movement (2310), Translate (2404) a first digital object (2300-1)
indication, on the touch screen (112) in a first direction, wherein the first digital object
(2300-1) was associated with a set of digital objects, characterized in that:
In response to display of a Previously Hidden Edge (2312) of the first digital object (2300 -
1) and continued detection of the first movement (2310),
displaying (2406) an area (2314) Beyond the Edge (2312) of the first digital object (2300 -
1);
After the first movement (2310) is no longer detected, translate (2408) the first digital
object (2300-1) in a second direction (2316) Until The area (2314) Beyond the Edge (2312)
of the first digital object (2300-1) is an indication, no longer;
detecting (2410) a second movement (2318) or the physical object on or near the touch
screen display (112), and
In response to detecting the second movement (2318) Previously hidden while the edge
(2312) of the first digital object (2300-1) is an indication,, translate (2412) the first digital
object (2300-1) in the first direction and displaying a second digital object (2300-2) in the
set of digital objects.
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2. The computer-implemented method of claim 1, wherein, prior to the Translating while
detecting the first movement, at least one edge of the first digital object extends beyond the
touch screen in the first direction.
3. The computer-implemented method of claim 1 or 2, wherein the first movement is a
horizontal swipe gesture.
4. The computer-implemented method of any one of claims 1 to 3, wherein the set of digital
Objects is a set of digital images, a set of web pages, or a set of electronic documents.
5. The computer-implemented method of any one of claims 1 to 4, wherein the device is a
portable electronic device.
6. The computer-implemented method of any one of claims 1 to 5, wherein the physical object
a finger or a stylus.
7. A computer program with software code adapted to perform the method of any one of claims
1 to 6.
8. An electronic device (100), comp rising:
a touch screen (112);
One or more processors (120);
Memory (102), and
a program, wherein the program is stored in the memory and configured to be executed by the
One or more processors, the program Including:
instructions for detecting (2402) a first movement (2310) or on a physical object or
near the touch screen (112);
instructions for, while detecting the first movement (2310), Translate (2404) a first
digital object (2300-1) indication, on the touch screen (112) in a first direction,
wherein the first digital object (2300-1) was associated with a set of digital objects;
characterized in that:
instructions for, in response to display of a Previously Hidden Edge (2312) of the first
digital object (2300-1) and continued detection of the first movement (2310), displaying
(2406) an area (2314) Beyond the Edge (2312) of the first digital object;
instructions for, after the first movement (2310) is no longer detected,
Translate (2408) the first digital object (2300-1) in a second direction (2316) Until The
Area (2314) beyond the edge of the first digital object (2300-1) is an indication, no longer;
instructions for detecting (2410) a second movement (2318) or the physical object on or
near the touch screen (112), and instructions for, in response to detecting the
second movement (2318) Previously hidden while the Edge (2312) of the first digital
object (2300-1) is an indication,, translate (2412) the first digital object (2300-1) in the first
direction and displaying a second digital object (2300-2) in the set of digital objects.
9. The electronic device of claim 8, wherein, prior to the Translating while detecting the first
movement, at least one edge of the first digital object extends beyond the touch screen display
in the first direction.
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10. The electronic device of claim 8 or 9, wherein the first movement is a horizontal swipe
gesture.
11. The electronic device of any one of claims 8 to 10, wherein the set of digital objects is a set of
digital images, a set of web pages, or a set of electronic documents.
12. The electronic device of any one of claims 8 to 11, wherein the device is a portable electronic
device.
13. The electronic device of any one of claims 8 to 12, wherein the physical object is a finger or a
stylus.
2.4. The undisputed Dutch translation of EP 868's conclusions:
1. By a computer implemented method, comprising:
it in a device (100) with a display (112) Touch screen:
detecting (2402) of a first movement (2310) of a physical object on or near the
Display (112) touch screen;
during the detection of the first movement (2310) Moving (2404) of the
Display (112) touch screen with the first digital object (2300-1) in 1 / 1
direction, the first digital object (2300-1) involves a set of digital objects;
characterized in that
In response to displaying a previously hidden hoek1 (2312) of the first digital
object (2300-1) and continued detection of the first movement (2310), an area (2314)
appears beyond the edge (2312) of the first digital object (2300-1);
after the first movement (2310) no longer detected, the move (2408) of
The first digital object (2300-1) in a second direction (2316) until the area (2314)
beyond the edge (2312) of the first digital object (2300-1) will no longer appear;
detecting (2410) for half movement (2318) of the physical object on or near the
Display (112) touch screen, and
In response to detecting the second movement (2318) while the corresponding hidden
edge (2312) of the first digital object (2300-1) is displayed, the move (2412)
the first digital object (2300-1) in the first direction and displaying half
digital object (2300-2) in the set of digital objects.
2. By a computer implemented method according to claim 1, wherein, prior to
move during detection of the first movement, one edge of the digital
object is in the first direction extends past the display with touch screen.
3. By a computer implemented method according to claim 1 or 2, wherein the first
a horizontal movement sweeping gesture.
4. By a computer implemented method according to any one of claims 1-3,
where the couple a set of digital objects, digital images, a set of web pages or a couple
electronic documents.
1 This is a translation error. "A Previously hidden edge" is erroneously translated as "a pre-hidden corner" in
Instead of "edge".
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5. By a computer implemented method according to which any of claims 1-4,
whereby the device a portable electronic device is.
6. By a computer implemented method according to which any of claims 1-5,
where the physical object is a finger or a stylus.
7. Computer software code, designed for carrying out the method
according to which any of claims 1-6.
8. Electronic device (100) comprising:
a display (112) touch screen;
one or more processors (120);
a memory (102), and
a program where the program is stored in memory and configured
order to be executed by one or more processors, where the program includes:
instructions for detecting (2402) of a first movement (2310) of a physical object
on or near the display (112) touch screen;
how to move (2404), while detecting the first movement (2310),
1 / 1 of the display (112) with touch screen digital object (2300-1)
in a first direction, the first digital object (2300-1) involves a set of
digital objects, characterized by
instructions for displaying (2406), in response to display a previously hidden
edge (2312) of the first digital object (2300-1) and continued detection of the first
movement (2310), an area beyond the edge (2312) of the first digital object;
how to move (2408), after the first movement (2310) no longer
detected, the first digital object (2300-1) in a second direction (2316)
until the area (2314) beyond the edge (2312) of the first digital object (2300-1) are not
longer displayed;
instructions for detecting (2410) for half movement (2318) of the physical object
on or near the display (112) touch screen, and
how to move (2412), in response to detecting the second movement
(2318) while the corresponding hidden edge (2312) of the first digital object (2300-1) is
shown, the first digital object (2300-1) in the first direction and displaying
half of the digital object (2300-2) set in the digital objects.
9. Electronic device according to claim 8, wherein, prior to moving in
detecting the first motion, one edge of the first digital object
in the first direction extends beyond the display (112) touch screen.
10. Electronic device according to claim 8 or 9, wherein the first movement is a horizontal
sweeping gesture.
11. Any electronic device according to any of claims 8-10, where the couple
digital objects, a set of digital images, a set of web pages or a set of electronic
documents.
12. Any electronic device according to any of claims 8-11, whereby the
device comprises a portable electronic device is.
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13. Any electronic device according to any of claims 8-12, where the
physical object is a finger or a stylus.
2.5. In EP 868 includes images below.
2.6. Apple is also the proprietor of European patent EP 2098948 (hereafter EP 948)
for a "touch event model", issued on 9 February 2011 on an application by March 4
2009, by claiming priority of U.S. patent application with U.S. 42381
Date March 4, 2008. Netherlands is one of the gedesigneerde countries. The granting of
EP 948 until the moment of summon no opposition.
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2.7. The claims of EP 948 are in the original English text:
1. A method for handling touch events at a multi-touch device (200, 210), comp rising:
displaying one or more views (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311,
312);
executing one or more software elements, software elements being associated Each with a
Particular view (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309,310,311,312);
associate a multi-touch or flag an exclusive touch flag With Each view (301, 302, 303,
304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312), said multi-touch flag Indicating whether a
Particular view is allowed to receive multiple simultaneous touches and said exclusive
Indicating whether a flag touch Particular view Allows other views to receive touch events
while the view is Particular receive a touch event;
Receiving one or more touches at the one or more views (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306,
307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312), and
selectively sending one or more touch events, Each touch event-describing a received
touch to one or more of the software elements associated with the one or more views
(301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312) at All which was a touch
received based on the values ​​of the multi-touch and touch exclusive flags.
2. The method of claim 1, Further comp rising:
if a multi-touch flag is associated with a Particular View, allo wing touch other events
contemporaneous with a touch event received at the Particular View to be sent to software
elements associated with the other views.
3. The method of claim 1, wherein if a multi-touch flag is associated with a Particular View, the
Multi-touch flag indicates whether the software element associated with Particular That view is
allowed to process multiple contemporaneous touches located in That view.
4. The method of claim 1, wherein the exclusive touch touch events from being Prevents flag
presented to software elements associated with views other than a view with an asserted exclusive
touch touch a flag while being received at the view with the touch asserted exclusive flag.
5. The method of claim 1, wherein the multi-touch device (200, 210) is a mobile telephone.
6. The method of claim 1, wherein the multi-touch device (200, 210) is a digital media player.
7. The method of claim 1, comp rising:
associate a multi-touch flag with a first view;
receive a first touch at the first view, the view being one of the first one or more views;
sending a touch event-describing the first touch to a first software element,
the first software component being one or the one or more software elements and associated
with the first view; Determining whether the multi-touch flag associated with the first
That view indicates the first view is a multi-touch view, and
if the first view is not a multi-touch view, blocking all touch-describing any other events
touches located in the first view Until The first touch is no longer received.
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8. The method of claim 7, Further comp rising:
associate an exclusive Touch With Each flag or the one or more views;
Determining whether the exclusive touch flag associated with the first view indicates That
The First View is an exclusive TouchView, and
if the first view is an exclusive TouchView, blocking all touch-describing any other events
touches located in any view other than the first view Until The first touch is no longer
received.
9. The method of claim 8, wherein the first view is not an exclusive TouchView, the method
Further comp rising:
receive a second touch at the multi-touch panel, touch the second located at a second
view and associated with a second software component;
Determining whether the exclusive touch flag associated with the second view indicates
thats the second view is an exclusive TouchView, and
if the second view is an exclusive TouchView, Prevent a touch event associated with
the second touch from being sent to the second software element Until The first no-touch
longer received.
10. The method of claim 9, Further comp rising:
if the second view is not an exclusive TouchView, sending a touch event-describing the
second touch to the second software element.
11. A computer readable medium comp rising a plurality of instructions configured for execution
at a multi-touch device (200, 210), the instructions being configured to cause the multi-touch
device (200, 210) to:
Display one or more views (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312);
execute one or more software elements, software elements being associated Each with a
Particular view (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312);
associate a multi-touch or flag an exclusive touch flag With Each view (301, 302, 303,
304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312), said multi-touch flag Indicating whether a
Particular view is allowed to receive multiple simultaneous touches and said exclusive
Indicating whether a flag touch Particular view Allows other views to receive touch events
while the view is Particular receive a touch event;
receive one or more touches at the one or more views (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307,
308, 309, 310, 311, 312), and
selectively send one or more touch events, Each touch event received a touch-describing,
to one or more of the software elements associated with the one or more views (301, 302,
303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312) at A Touch All which was received based on
the values ​​of the multi-touch and touch exclusive flags.
12. The computer readable medium of claim 11, wherein the instructions are configured to Further
cause the multi-touch device (200, 210) to:
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if a multi-touch flag is associated with a Particular View, allo wing touch other events
contemporaneous with a touch event received at the Particular View to be sent to software
elements associated with the other views.
13. The computer readable medium of claim 11, wherein if a multi-touch flag is associated with a
Particular view, the multi-touch flag indicates whether the software element associated with
Particular That view is allowed to process multiple contemporaneous touches located in That
view.
14. The computer readable medium of claim 11, wherein the exclusive flag Prevents touch touch
events from being sent to software elements associated with views other than a view with an
asserted exclusive touch flag while a touch is being received at the view with the asserted
exclusive touch flag.
15. The computer readable medium of claim 11, wherein the multi-touch device (200, 210) is a
mobile telephone.
16. The computer readable medium of claim 11, wherein the multi-touch device (200, 210) is a
digital media player.
17. The computer readable medium of claim 11, wherein the instructions are configured to Further
cause the multi-touch device (200, 210) to:
associate a multi-touch flag with a first view;
receive a first touch at the first view, the view being one of the first one or more views;
send a touch event-describing the first touch to a first software element, the first software
element being one of the one or more software elements and
associated with the first view;
determining whether the multi-touch flag associated with the first view indicates thats the
First View is a multi-touch view, and
if the first view is not a multi-touch view, block all touch-describing any other events
touches located in the first view Until The first touch is no longer received.
18. The computer readable medium of claim 17, wherein the instructions are configured to Further
cause the multi-touch device (200, 210) to:
associate an exclusive Touch With Each flag or the one or more views;
determining whether the exclusive touch flag associated with the first view indicates thats the
First View is an exclusive TouchView, and
if the first view is an exclusive TouchView, blocking all touch-describing any other events
touches located in any view other than the first view Until The first touch is no longer
received.
19. The computer readable medium of claim 18, wherein the first view is not an exclusive touch
view and the instructions are configured to cause the Further multi-touch device (200, 210) to:
receive a second touch at the multi-touch panel, touch the second located at a second view
and associated with a second software component;
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determining whether the exclusive touch flag associated with the second view indicates That
the second view is an exclusive TouchView, and
if the second view is an exclusive TouchView, Prevent a touch event associated with the
second touch from being sent to the second software element Until The first no-touch
longer received.
20. The computer readable medium of claim 19, wherein the instructions are configured to Further
cause the multi-touch device (200, 210) to:
if the second view is not an exclusive TouchView, send a touch event-describing the
second touch to the second software element.
21. A multi-touch enabled device (200, 210) including a computer readable medium comp rising a
plurality of instructions configured for execution at the device (200, 210), the instructions
being configured to cause the device (200, 210) to:
Display one or more views (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 11, 312);
execute one or more software elements, software elements being associated Each with a
Particular view (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312);
associate a multi-touch or flag an exclusive touch flag With Each view (301, 302, 303,
304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312), said multi-touch flag Indicating whether a
Particular view is allowed to receive multiple simultaneous touches and said exclusive
Indicating whether a flag touch Particular view Allows other views to receive touch events
while the view is Particular receive a touch event;
receive one or more touches at the one or more views (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307,
308, 309, 310, 311, 312), and
selectively send one or more touch events, Each touch event-describing a
received touch to one or more of the software elements associated with the one or more
views (301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312) at All which was a touch
received based on the values ​​of the multi-touch and touch exclusive flags.
22. The multi-touch enabled device (200, 210) or claim 21, wherein the multi-touch enabled
device (200, 210) is a mobile telephone.
23. The multi-touch enabled device (200, 210) or claim 21, wherein the multi-touch enabled
device (200, 210) is a digital media player.
2.8. The undisputed Dutch translation of EP 948's conclusions:
1. Method for handling touch events on a multi-touch device (200,
210) comprising:
displaying one or more images (301, 302, 303, 304, 305,306, 307, 308, 309, 310,
311, 312);
performing one or more software elements, each software element
associated with a specific image (301, 302, 303, 304, 305,306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311,
312);
associating a multi-touch tag or mark each with an exclusive touch
image (301, 302, 303, 304, 305,306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312), said
Multi-touch flag indicates whether a particular image multiple simultaneous touches can
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received this exclusive touch screen or a specific marker indicating the
for other images allows to receive touch events while
Specific events will receive a touch screen;
receiving one or more touches to one or more images (301, 302, 303, 304,
305,306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312), and
selectively send one or more touch events, each touch event
received a touch describing to one or more of the software elements associated
with one or more images (301, 302, 303, 304, 305,306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312)
a touch which was received based on the values ​​of the multi-touch and
exclusive touch marks.
2. Process according to claim 1, further comprising:
as a multi-touch marker is associated with a specific image, allowing the simultaneous
other manifestations of touch with a touch event received on a specific
image to be sent to the software elements associated with other
images.
3. Process according to claim 1, wherein a multi-touch marker is associated with
en2 specific image, the multi-touch flag indicates whether the software element associated
the particular image multiple simultaneous touches can process in that picture
are located.
4. Process according to claim 1, wherein the exclusive touch that prevents marker
Touch events are sent to the software elements associated with other
images than an image with a confirmed exclusive touch, while marking a touch
is received at the image me3 mark the confirmed exclusive touch.
5. Process according to claim 1, wherein the multi-touch device (200, 210) a mobile
phone.
6. Process according to claim 1, wherein the multi-touch device (200, 210) a digital
media player.
7. Process according to claim 1, comprising:
associating a multi-touch mark with a first image;
receiving a first touch in the first picture, with the first image of a
The one or more images is;
sending a touch event which describes the first contact to 1 / 1
software element, the first software element of a one or more software elements
and is associated with the first image;
determining whether the multi-touch marker associated with the first image indicates that the
first image is a multi-touch screen, and
as the first image has no multi-touch screen, blocking all touch events to
Other touches describe localized in the first frame to the first touch is not
longer present.
Meant 2 will be "one"
3 will be designed "with"
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8. Process according to claim 7, further comprising
associating a mark with exclusive touch each of the one or more images;
determining whether the touchscreen exclusive marker associated with the first image indicates
The first image is an exclusive touch-screen, and
as the first picture an exclusive touch screen is blocking all touch events
Translated.

One more reason I will never buy an Apple product.
"When you can't compete, Sue!" -Apple

snowboarda42 said:
One more reason I will never buy an Apple product.
"When you can't compete, Sue!" -Apple
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can't compete? meanwhile back in reality apple is seeing growth from it's already dominating position.

detusueno said:
can't compete? meanwhile back in reality apple is seeing growth from it's already dominating position.
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It is not..
http://www.neowin.net/news/millennial-android-usage-on-the-rise-ios-continues-to-fall

Rejinderi said:
It is not..
http://www.neowin.net/news/millennial-android-usage-on-the-rise-ios-continues-to-fall
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you fail at interpreting. iOS and Android both have seen growth, Android has grown more and has taken more total share from new users but both HAVE grown including iOS. the real world difference is that apple kills all other oems and makes a heck of a lot more profit than any of them. htc doesn't give a damn about samsung, they are competitors just as much apple is.

From a practical standpoint I think it simply means that Samsumg would pay royalties to Apple for all the instances of patent infringement as opposed to actually banning a device.
It's actually really smart for Apple to do this simply because it means more revenue for them.
james

Ah, the nowadays typical "Apple makes more profits!!" line. So cliched.
Yeah, they have high profit margins. So? That doesn't change the fact that they're losing market share. And they're damn afraid of it. Ok, that last one is not exactly a fact, but it is a very reasonable assumption. They're also total hypocrites and that one is a fact.
Another fact is that this is actually a loss for Apple. Their community designs have been invalidated. The judge said that one of their patents (the unlock swipe) will be invalidated too.
@atypical1: No, Apple is not out for cross-licensing. They really *do* want a ban. But they're not getting it, because the one patent that was upheld can easily be circumvented and won't affect Samsung sales at all.

Gusar321 said:
Ah, the nowadays typical "Apple makes more profits!!" line. So cliched.
Yeah, they have high profit margins. So? That doesn't change the fact that they're losing market share. And they're damn afraid of it. Ok, that last one is not exactly a fact, but it is a very reasonable assumption. They're also total hypocrites and that one is a fact.
Another fact is that this is actually a loss for Apple. Their community designs have been invalidated. The judge said that one of their patents (the unlock swipe) will be invalidated too.
@atypical1: No, Apple is not out for cross-licensing. They really *do* want a ban. But they're not getting it, because the one patent that was upheld can easily be circumvented and won't affect Samsung sales at all.
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Apple has higher profit margins because they have convinced their followers that they are getting 'more' for a laptop that costs $1200 but should be $700.
Also, the confirmation that the iPhone 5 is going to be on Sprint and the idea that there may soon be a "cheaper iPhone"...combined with the literally new lawsuit every hour...seems to show how scared they really are.

Who cares Apple just lost this lawsuit they're really ****ting bricks now.
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DirtyShroomz said:
Who cares Apple just lost this lawsuit they're really ****ting bricks now.
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http://mashable.com/2011/08/24/samsung-galaxy-phones-netherlands-ban/
Samsung does say that this will not affect sales.
The problem with this sort of thing is it sets a precedent.

mattykinsx said:
Apple has higher profit margins because they have convinced their followers that they are getting 'more' for a laptop that costs $1200 but should be $700.
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Name a consumer laptop that is as good as a 15"+ Macbook Pro in design, build quality, support, and performance. Over the last 2 months I returned FOUR (DV6T, XPS 15Z, XPS 17, Envy 17 3D) laptops that are supposed to be some of the best consumer PC laptops at a reasonable price range, and none of them hold a candle to the balance of the Macbook Pro. I paid an average of $1200-$1500 for each of them, they had about equal specs but at the end of the day the $2200-$2400 17" Macbook Pro I'm ordering just offers more.

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Name a consumer laptop that is as good as a 15"+ Macbook Pro in design, build quality, support, and performance. Over the last 2 months I returned FOUR (DV6T, XPS 15Z, XPS 17, Envy 17 3D) laptops that are supposed to be some of the best consumer PC laptops at a reasonable price range, and none of them hold a candle to the balance of the Macbook Pro. I paid an average of $1200-$1500 for each of them, they had about equal specs but at the end of the day the $2200-$2400 17" Macbook Pro I'm ordering just offers more.
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"design" -- personal preference / opinion
"build quality" -- Meh. I know a person who's Macbook screen failed on her[I mentioned that before, I don't know a lot of people with Macbooks]. I've never had a "build quality" issue with any laptop I've ever used. Acer, Dell, Gateway, or Toshiba.
"support" -- ?
"performance" -- Never had any issues with performance with the Acer laptop I use. However, I know multiple people who's iMacs were complete garbage.

mattykinsx said:
"design" -- personal preference / opinion
"build quality" -- Meh. I know a person who's Macbook screen failed on her[I mentioned that before]. I've never had a "build quality" with any laptop I've ever used. Acer, Dell, Gateway, or Toshiba.
"support" -- ?
"performance" -- Never had any issues with performance with the Acer laptop I use. However, I know multiple people who's iMacs were complete garbage.
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I like the part where you didn't name a single laptop. I spent 2-3 months looking for a Macbook Pro equal and there is none. The closest ones were workstations and for that price you might as well pay for the better design with the Macbook Pro.

1GB free space on Dropbox!

If you complete the dropquest2012 you automatically earn 1GB of extra storage for your dropbox account. Above you can find the answers for all chapters. If you don't have a dropbox account, click here and you'll get 2GB plus 500mb extra storage.
Ps: I'm not the one who wrote this tutorial, I just made some improvements and shared it with you guys. If you want to say thanks to someone, say to this guy, all credits for him:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2919411
Answers:
Chapter 1
46637
64529
38645
Chapter 2
Go to https://www.dropbox.com/about
With each hint, move to a new person like how a chess knight would.
ChenLi Wang -> Ramsey H. - > Allison Louie -> Naveen Agrawal -> Emily Zhao
https://www.dropbox.com/dropquest2012/crane
Chapter 3
SMUDGES
Chapter 4
SOMA
Chapter 5
MAD LIB
Chapter 6
Invert the colours, look at the ones that don't match their text descriptions. Use the M/D/Y and use that date for https://www.dropbox.com/events.
Should be one of the following:
https://www.dropbox.com/events?ns=false&n=0&d=1-7-2003
https://www.dropbox.com/events?ns=false&n=0&d=3-21-2005
https://www.dropbox.com/events?ns=fa...0&d=11-28-2001
Chapter 7
The letters are in the soundcloud comments, use the legend to figure out the order by converting it to numbers.
https://www.dropbox.com/dropquest2012/LEADING
https://www.dropbox.com/dropquest2012/DEALING
https://www.dropbox.com/dropquest2012/ALIGNED
Chapter 8
Triumphant
Chapter 9
Rearrange file names: Your next destination is the last page of the tour.
Go to https://www.dropbox.com/tour/6
Send an invite to [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected] via https://www.dropbox.com/referrals
Chapter 10
Mexico, Argentina or Korea
Chapter 11
Southpole
Chapter 12
Restore Chapter12.txt to its previous version via https://www.dropbox.com/revisions/Dropquest 2012/Captain's Logs/Chapter 12.txt. Then go to https://www.dropbox.com/help and click on the shield icon of "Security and Privacy".
Chapter 14
Re-arrange the slider puzzle according to the highlighted part of the sudoku puzzle (once you solve it).
Sudoku solution
Use this to help you: http://analogbit.com/software/puzzletools
Chapter 15
Share a folder with the email listed on the page (should be the same as in the one you invited in Chapter 9). Then go to https://www.dropbox.com/share and click on the larger rainbow icon next to "Sharing".
Chapter 17
Shanghai
Chapter 18
Go to https://www.dropbox.com/home/Dropquest 2012/Spring Cleaning
Put 1, 3, 6, 8, 9 (.jpg) into Category 1 and 2, 4, 5, 7, 10 into Category 2. If you did this via the desktop app, use the Repair Dropquest Folder link on the lower left corner of the clue page.
Chapter 19
For each column, subtract the smaller card value from the larger one
http://db.tt/94J964
http://db.tt/72j933
http://db.tt/Q2J9J4
Chapter 20
Ocean's Eleven
X-Men: First Class
Twenty-One
Super 8
28 days later
Sixth Sense
(just click this link)
https://www.dropbox.com/dropquest2012/apollo13
Chapter 21
Abusively
Chapter 22: FACED or MACAU or BADGE or BASED or ADAGE
chapter 23: machu picchu
Endgame: colosseum (just type the word at the end of the page)
Try this google docs if you're stuck:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...sle=true&pli=1
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Re-arrange the slider puzzle according to the highlighted part of the sudoku puzzle (once you solve it).
seriously man, i know i am being spoon fed but i am not able to figure out this line...cant even understand what it means and it is there is every tut!! what should i do
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for anyone after me: just click on the number adjacent to the box below the sudoko and the blank box moves. i hope you have solved your sudoko. now match the box below by moving the numbers to match the highlighted sudoko box.

i used this for the sudoku part: http://www.sudoku-solutions.com/
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also: http://www.dropboxguide.com/bonusspace/dropquest/detailedsolution