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Anyone else going crazy waiting for Note 4?

Don't know if this is an appopriate place for this discussion. Also, there are only roumors that we can't know if they are true or not. But by what I am reading I think I might like the new specs so much I will simply need to get it. I am not totally happy with Note 3 so the wait is a bit hard . Anyone else?

xperiaforme said:
Don't know if this is an appopriate place for this discussion. Also, there are only roumors that we can't know if they are true or not. But by what I am reading I think I might like the new specs so much I will simply need to get it. I am not totally happy with Note 3 so the wait is a bit hard . Anyone else?
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I dont think i buy Samsung again.

I'm sticking with my N3.
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Me! I'm not a Note3 user, and I'm currently not so happy with my phone. When I looked at the leaked specs, I thought "this is paradise" and, well... [emoji16]
I need you guys' opinions on switching from a phone to a phablet. Can you kindly give me any?
:superhyped:

N9005 might be my last Samsung. We are nearly 10 months after launch and AOSP roms like CM have only just reached a more or less stable phase. I can only imagine Samsung will do anything it can to make AOSP development more difficult in the future.

For the moment I am fine just as my N3 is
Note 4 will see the struggle with Android 5 AND eventually (on some models, not all) with 64-bit Android 5 so I am in no big hurry to pay premium money for being basically a beta-tester.
But you can understand my position better if I say that my N9005 is still on rooted knox-0 stock 4.3 heavily optimized with xposed and similar stuff.
If I do upgrade it MIGHT be on Note 5, and only if there is no truly-open premium alternative.

Not sure yet...
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AO7 said:
N9005 might be my last Samsung. We are nearly 10 months after launch and AOSP roms like CM have only just reached a more or less stable phase. I can only imagine Samsung will do anything it can to make AOSP development more difficult in the future.
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Lucky you guys have aosp aokp or cm11
Exynos variant doesn't have these.
Luckily we have miui other than tw

Im absolutly satisfied with n3. Yea I must triped knox after flash kernel which M I undervoltaged and now 10 hours scren on time is gr8. After year I buyed simply removed battery and will be happy next year.

Samsung can go to hell... And right now I hate my Note 3...
/CK

Café King said:
Samsung can go to hell... And right now I hate my Note 3...
/CK
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Why? What's wrong with it?
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ShadowLea said:
Why? What's wrong with it?
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This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/help/modem-trouble-t2814946
/CK

I love my note 3 but I think I'll avoid a note 4 or any future dedicated Samsung phones unless its a google edition. I hate the lack of a daily driver AOSP or close to it.

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This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/help/modem-trouble-t2814946
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I don't see how that's Samsung's problem. When we decide to root and flash different recoveries, kernels, ROMS and modems we know we are taking a risk of potentially messing up our phones. The fact that you are having that issue after doing all of those things is not Samsung's fault.
As for the Note 4, i'm probably going to go with the next version of the Galaxy Mega 6.3 if Samsung bumps up the specs a bit. I know they want to keep it as a mid-range device, but it has to be more useable than the current Galaxy Mega.

It's a shame reading that so many people ate unsatisfied with their phones.
Personally I absolutely love the Note 3. I have had it since it was released and it is absolutely perfect for me. There art many positive surprises. The screen in direct sunlight, battery life and how tough and water resistant it is. With my previous phones I was always discovering small problems. With the note I am constantly experiencing small advantages. It was the same story with the note 2.
If a new one will come out though I am not sure if I can resist buying it

Café King said:
Samsung can go to hell... And right now I hate my Note 3...
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Care to elaborate....

I would maybe wait for the Note 4 instead of buying it on release day.
If there was a bigger flagship phone from any other company I might decide to go for it.
Even though I haven't tripped KNOX and on the latest C-RoM, I might want to try something new later. Samsung is just doing the same thing over and over again. Samesung.

Not only Samsung every company is doing same thing. But note series is having more spices. And I am satisfied customer of note series. I am not a big fan of cm or mui because I love pen and camera feature. And my note 3 is fast and better than any other phone..

dhruva7 said:
Not only Samsung every company is doing same thing. But note series is having more spices. And I am satisfied customer of note series. I am not a big fan of cm or mui because I love pen and camera feature. And my note 3 is fast and better than any other phone..
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No, LG G3 looks promising.

LG g3 is good but note 3 is older than LG g3 also g3 doesn't have pen

What is the Future of this phone as of now ?

I've had this phone about 3 months now and thought it was going to be good in the dev community but as im seeing now it seems all dev for this phone is dead or dying, so what hope is there that we will have any roms or new mods for this phone?Yes i understand about the locked bootloader but i was looking at the note 7 forum and they have roms for there phone and the note 7 came out after the 7 edge? i would just like to know in everyone's opinion should we be waiting and hoping for someone to break the codes and unlock our phones true potential or just shut my mouth and sit back and take what i've got and be happy with it. Don't get me wrong i commend the Echoe rom team and all the hard work they did for us and that should not be overlooked. All im saying is what do we need to get this phone poppin like all the other phones ?
Thanks
A New S7 Edge Owner

I guess all we could do is hang on to this one and trade it in or sell it when the S8 comes out and maybe we won't get screwed on the next model.

I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.

If you're looking for a mod friendly device, you should look elsewhere. With a locked bootloader, you're not going to get much dev support. Having said that, I would say that the future of this phone is bright. I can honestly say that I see no reason for me to mess with the system. It's excellent as it is.

slayerh4x said:
I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
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The Google pixel will be a joke. You'll see iphone 7 Will be years ahead of it. And I'm a android guy
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Yea, hate to say it, but Google should stick to making software. Either that, or actually develop the production capacity to do your own manufacturing or at least quality control, instead of farming it out to random Chinese manufacturers. My only experience with Nexus is the Nexus 5, but that device was awful. In fact, I can't think of a single redeeming quality of that device.

I'm selling mine and going back to the Note 4

slayerh4x said:
I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
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The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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minhajmsd said:
The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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yeah. I'm thinking about the OnePlus 3, the support for that phone seems very good. Plus it is not too expensive. I wonder what my options are for switching phones, I don't think T Mobile will take back my phone and stop charging me my monthly device installment.

Yeah, I think you have to wait a bit more to be eligible for jump
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Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.

Andromendous said:
Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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I've been a nexus user since the Nexus 5 launched. and a CM user for years before then. the S7 edge is my first Samsung device (and only because I got it for free), because I have always felt the same way about Samsung as I do about apple. all hype, all trend, ignorant (non-power-user) fanbase. Samsung is literally the apple of Android, if you know what I mean. I'll never own another Samsung device after this one.

minhajmsd said:
The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? I'm still kinda new to Android and the first recent one I got was this S7 Edge. The V20 does look really nice though, hope it is released soon.
I also like the HTC 10 because there is a ton of stuff for it. The Viper rom looks awesome, pretty crazy they have OTA updates for the rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development

slayerh4x said:
Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? I'm still kinda new to Android and the first recent one I got was this S7 Edge. The V20 does look really nice though, hope it is released soon.
I also like the HTC 10 because there is a ton of stuff for it. The Viper rom looks awesome, pretty crazy they have OTA updates for the rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development
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Typically LG doesn't lock their bootloaders, and since its going to be the same phone internationally its dev community may be loads better.
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A few developments in the last month:
Unified 935U based roms - This will be great as the unification of US rom development (and the ability to have VOLTE) will make life better for US S7 users as they will have the newest rom of the 5 options running.
Note 7 release: The Note 7's UI seems better (samsung has already started promised to unify the UI in android 7) and the rom has been ported (same chipset).
Enhanced T-mobile Support on international models: Wifi calling/Volte has now been ported to the International (935F) model, at least if rooted. I switched as the Exynos version is faster and has better battery life (and the gap is greater in rooted versions than stock) and a stronger development community including Note 7 ports.

rp3 said:
A few developments in the last month:
Unified 935U based roms - This will be great as the unification of US rom development (and the ability to have VOLTE) will make life better for US S7 users as they will have the newest rom of the 5 options running.
Note 7 release: The Note 7's UI seems better (samsung has already started promised to unify the UI in android 7) and the rom has been ported (same chipset).
Enhanced T-mobile Support on international models: Wifi calling/Volte has now been ported to the International (935F) model, at least if rooted. I switched as the Exynos version is faster and has better battery life (and the gap is greater in rooted versions than stock) and a stronger development community including Note 7 ports.
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so we should all get the Exynos version and call it a day is what you saying then ?

Icebluemale30 said:
so we should all get the Exynos version and call it a day is what you saying then ?
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Goodness no. If you root and just care about speed, battery and custom rom options on android 6/touchwiz (and don't care about US warranty support), I would say yes.
If you care about warranty support, want an unrooted phone (or the ability to root without tripping Knox), want to use Samsung Pay or like T-mobile's financing options, The US model is definitely the one. It also has more upside
Long Term, Samsung's Android 7 may see a boot-loader unlock option, which would jump start CM/kernel development (cutting the performance gap between the phones and giving people who like Samsung's industrial design but not their software design a good solution). Next month, there will be Nexus phones running SD820, which will continue the advantage Qualcomm based roms have in custom development.

I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.

axne1 said:
I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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i hope you are right i hate to get a new phone i really like my S7 Edge

axne1 said:
I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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The only fact here is that nobody really knows what may or may not happen. Wishful thinking is one thing, but it is far from fact.
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Andromendous said:
Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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The Nexus 5 was an awful device, with awful battery life, awful display, awful speaker, and awful camera. It was quick with stock Android, but it literally had no other redeeming qualities. Mine has been used as a paperweight, to keep papers from flying off my desk when my windows is open. I am not joking. I will take an Apple device over the Nexus 5 any day, and I can't stand Apple. And yes, I have an Apple device too. I have not had any other Nexus devices, and probably never will. Samsung devices have treated me very well over the years so I am sticking with them. And honestly, the GS7 is an excellent device all around, I couldn't care less about a locked bootloader. The days of spending hours/days flashing ROMs are behind me. I have more important things to do with my free time. So before you go off and make blanket statements such as "we don't know what we are doing," consider the fact that some of us don't share the same interests as you. The majority of the world wants a device that works out of the box and doesn't know what a bootloader is, much less that it can be locked or unlocked. You, and this community, are a tiny minority of smartphone users. And guess what, there are companies that cater to you as well. Don't be pissed at Samsung for delivering what their customers wanted.

Is anyone concerned about optimization?

So as I'm sure everyone here is aware given XDA's articles on it, Samsung phones with the Snapdragon 820 (well, really ALL Samsung phones, but the 820 ones in particular) had some serious performance issues compared to both the Exynos version, as well as other phones with similar Snapdragon processors.
Does anyone have any info or inkling or just general thoughts on whether the S8 series will have similar problems?
Personally, I'm kind of turn, as I was more or less pleased with the performance of my Note 5, but downright can't stand the S7's performance, so I'm kind of torn on what direction I'm going to go with buying the S8 or not.

I always worry Samsung and Qualcomm will screw it up. I wouldn't be surprised if my OnePlus 3T outperforms the Snapdragon S8's.

Yeah, that's pretty much the exact comparison I've been thinking about.
Of course, I don't think it's even possible for a phone to be faster than the 3T is in day-to-day use.

CConn882 said:
Yeah, that's pretty much the exact comparison I've been thinking about.
Of course, I don't think it's even possible for a phone to be faster than the 3T is in day-to-day use.
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Yea it blows away my old note 5 and nexus 6p by a huge margin

CConn882 said:
Yeah, that's pretty much the exact comparison I've been thinking about.
Of course, I don't think it's even possible for a phone to be faster than the 3T is in day-to-day use.
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Oh please. I had zero complaints with my Mate 9 when I had it, and my Pixel XL is perfectly smooth as well. My 7 Plus is a hair smoother sometimes, and that is faster than the 3T.
HOPEFULLY Samsung has their **** together this time, especially with the 835.

Nitemare3219 said:
Oh please. I had zero complaints with my Mate 9 when I had it, and my Pixel XL is perfectly smooth as well. My 7 Plus is a hair smoother sometimes, and that is faster than the 3T.
HOPEFULLY Samsung has their **** together this time, especially with the 835.
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From my EXTREMELY limited time using the device in store, it seems that Samsung has tightened things up a bit. It's a good bit smoother than last year's 7 and 7 Edge. Everything is noticeably more fluid and I didn't experience any hangs when opening apps.

Anyone else notice the speaker volume extremely low?

Nitemare3219 said:
Oh please. I had zero complaints with my Mate 9 when I had it, and my Pixel XL is perfectly smooth as well. My 7 Plus is a hair smoother sometimes, and that is faster than the 3T.
HOPEFULLY Samsung has their **** together this time, especially with the 835.
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Haha, calm down there. I'm not trying to throw any other phones under the bus, I'm just saying the 3T's performance is impressive.
And, obviously, Apple is usually faster than Android in general.

954wrecker said:
I always worry Samsung and Qualcomm will screw it up. I wouldn't be surprised if my OnePlus 3T outperforms the Snapdragon S8's.
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Hopefully we can get some custom kernel and roms with good performance, I hope Samsung can put more effort on 835 S8.

54wenzhao said:
Hopefully we can get some custom kernel and roms with good performance, I hope Samsung can put more effort on 835 S8.
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Who wants to spoil this for him?

peachpuff said:
Who wants to spoil this for him?
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Should I cancel the order and get a international version? Hard to decide when you can get free gear VR.

54wenzhao said:
Should I cancel the order and get a international version? Hard to decide when you can get free gear VR.
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Did you just miss the last few years of Samsung development? You won't be getting custom roms or kernels unless you get a OnePlus.

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Did you just miss the last few years of Samsung development? You won't be getting custom roms or kernels unless you get a OnePlus.
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Partially true, the S7 has plenty for the Exynos. It's the Snapdragon variant that won't see any support, if it's locked down again of course.

954wrecker said:
Did you just miss the last few years of Samsung development? You won't be getting custom roms or kernels unless you get a OnePlus.
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My last android phone was LG G3 and last time I use a samsung is Nexus S. I think I missed a lot. Thanks for the head up, I need to reconsider the purchase.

54wenzhao said:
My last android phone was LG G3 and last time I use a samsung is Nexus S. I think I missed a lot. Thanks for the head up, I need to reconsider the purchase.
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if you only care about custom roms then don't get a samsung, but if you care about camera, screen, build.......get the S8

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Should I cancel the order and get a international version? Hard to decide when you can get free gear VR.
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i think even the exynos get a lot of more support than the snapdragon one
assuming how the snap 820 was, the Xiaomi Mi5, One Plus 3, got really a lot lot of custom roms, meanwhile LG G5 and HTC 10 not much, meanwhile the S7 Edge, as i can see in the forum, has nothing for the 820
I assume now the Xiaomi Mi6 will have a lot of custom roms, with the Snapdragon 835, i don't know about other future phones with this besides the S8, but i'm sure the Exynos S8 will get more community support than the Snapdragon One

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i think even the exynos get a lot of more support than the snapdragon one
assuming how the snap 820 was, the Xiaomi Mi5, One Plus 3, got really a lot lot of custom roms, meanwhile LG G5 and HTC 10 not much, meanwhile the S7 Edge, as i can see in the forum, has nothing for the 820
I assume now the Xiaomi Mi6 will have a lot of custom roms, with the Snapdragon 835, i don't know about other future phones with this besides the S8, but i'm sure the Exynos S8 will get more community support than the Snapdragon One
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I'll never buy another Xiaomi. They violate Googles policy and take forever to release the kernel source. They won't even bother until the next model is out. Also, they have below par camera's and are slow with important updates. Their idea of a firmware update is to add something to the calculator, or improve their forum app. Lol. Downloading an entire ROM for that is a joke. Can't wait to sell my Mi 5s Plus.
Oneplus is the best way to go for custom ROM's. I wouldn't choose a phone just for that though, each to their own I guess.

Highspeed123 said:
I'll never buy another Xiaomi. They violate Googles policy and take forever to release the kernel source. They won't even bother until the next model is out. Also, they have below par camera's and are slow with important updates. Their idea of a firmware update is to add something to the calculator, or improve their forum app. Lol. Downloading an entire ROM for that is a joke. Can't wait to sell my Mi 5s Plus.
Oneplus is the best way to go for custom ROM's. I wouldn't choose a phone just for that though, each to their own I guess.
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i have a Xiaomi Mi 5 and i won't say that you are wrong lol, the camera is not the best in any means
anyways i'm guided to buy a phone by it performance and no other things, but that is just my case, so i'm good with the Mi5
the Mi 5s has Snap 821 if i'm not wrong? same as the OnePlus 3T, but it seems the 3T has a lot more roms than the Mi5S (and Mi Mix, this phone has Snap 821 too)

abdelha said:
if you only care about custom roms then don't get a samsung, but if you care about camera, screen, build.......get the S8
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All I want is root..that bout it

mlock420 said:
All I want is root..that bout it
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there is root for every device....

Completely misleading Android one program / Feedback hub app

I'm beginning to feel completely misled about the Android 1 program. December and still no Oreo, I was thinking of a Pure Android with instant first in line updates to the latest software, similar to the Nexus and Pixel phones. My friend with an old One plus 3 received Oreo in Early November.
Also, this is not pure android. It's preloaded with Miu junkware.
Of particular interest is the feedback hub app. Is this a Google or Miu App? I thought the latter and there is no way to remove it from the phone.
I Bought this for the pure android experience and instant updates, but there are better tech/price handsets out there in this price range with decent battery and better screen/chips.
New buyers proceed with a little caution.

What other devices with Pure Android, instant first in line updates and better tech/price handsets at this price range with decent battery and better screen/chips are you reffering to?
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1. Xiaomi promised Oreo by the end of the year. The beta has already rolled out. And will soon be released as promised. I don't see how that's a problem.
2. There's literally no junk in this phone I don't know what you're talking about.. miremote? How else you're gonna use that IR blaster. And micamera app because stock also camera doesn't support xiaomi's dual camera setup. And finally mi feedback.. you should be grateful that they are trying to listen to their customers..
3. OnePlus 3 is also double the price of mi A1. You can't expect flagship phone with on a potato price.
4. Kindly list those phones with better tech screen and 'chips' (lays?) Closest phone with similar spec is Moto g5s plus which costs ₹2000 more than A1. Others don't even have specs remotely close to this one and costs close to ₹20000.

I was was referring to phones that do not have pure Android.
Android One on the Mi A1 is not pure Android either.
My point is you may as well buy another phone because this is not a true pure Android experience. Don't be fooled.

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1. Xiaomi promised Oreo by the end of the year. The beta has already rolled out. And will soon be released as promised. I don't see how that's a problem.
2. There's literally no junk in this phone I don't know what you're talking about.. miremote? How else you're gonna use that IR blaster. And micamera app because stock also camera doesn't support xiaomi's dual camera setup. And finally mi feedback.. you should be grateful that they are trying to listen to their customers..
3. OnePlus 3 is also double the price of mi A1. You can't expect flagship phone with on a potato price.
4. Kindly list those phones with better tech screen and 'chips' (lays?) Closest phone with similar spec is Moto g5s plus which costs ₹2000 more than A1. Others don't even have specs remotely close to this one and costs close to ₹20000.
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You really expose yourself here as a deluded fanboy. My point is the one plus 3 does not have pure android but was updated months ago. Unremovable feedback app points to doctored software and therefore is not pure. THIS IS NOT A PURE ANDROID PHONE. FACT.
There are plenty of better spec Chinese built phones in this range. Do yourself a favour and have a quick browse on gearbest. I know you want to protect your investment by convincing yourself it's great but it really isn't. IR blaster is virtually useless in the modern world and is a cheap replacement for lack of NFC.

This IS pure Android. Having 1 or 2 pre-installed apps doesn't mean it's not pure Android. Name one phone with pure Android except nexus and pixel.
You mean I should rather buy a phone with half hd screen, an older SoC with a single camera which costs more than a1? Even if we consider for a second that it's not pure Android in A1 ( which it is).. its still a great phone and no other phone comes close to this phone in terms of price/spec ratio.

surajsun22 said:
This IS pure Android. Having 1 or 2 pre-installed apps doesn't mean it's not pure Android. Name one phone with pure Android except nexus and pixel.
You mean I should rather buy a phone with half hd screen, an older SoC with a single camera which costs more than a1? Even if we consider for a second that it's not pure Android in A1 ( which it is).. its still a great phone and no other phone comes close to this phone in terms of price/spec ratio.
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Your really not getting this are you.
PURE.
The camera is rubbish. There are much better single cameras out there. The 'optical zoom' is a joke.
Yes it is still a good phone but the chip is very old now and there are plenty of other options.

pow01 said:
You really expose yourself here as a deluded fanboy. My point is the one plus 3 does not have pure android but was updated months ago. Unremovable feedback app points to doctored software and therefore is not pure. THIS IS NOT A PURE ANDROID PHONE. FACT.
There are plenty of better spec Chinese built phones in this range. Do yourself a favour and have a quick browse on gearbest. I know you want to protect your investment by convincing yourself it's great but it really isn't. IR blaster is virtually useless in the modern world and is a cheap replacement for lack of NFC.
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My argument still stands.. they promised Oreo BY THE END OF THE YEAR. Is it January yet? It's not like you got cheated or something.
The is just installed as system app it doesn't mean the OS itself is doctored.. please go and learn about Android before spreading your ignorance.
So you would rather buy a Chinese trash phone with cr*p mediatek processors with no guarantee on its quality than this phone which comes from a decent company.
Lastly NFC is just novelty in the region where A1 is supposed to be sold. Unlike IR blaster which many people make use of.
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pow01 said:
Your really not getting this are you.
PURE.
The camera is rubbish. There are much better single cameras out there. The 'optical zoom' is a joke.
Yes it is still a good phone but the chip is very old now and there are plenty of other options.
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Camera is rubbish? Are you high on something?
You are constantly saying there are plenty other options .. kindly name those options or we're done here..
Have a good day.

surajsun22 said:
My argument still stands.. they promised Oreo BY THE END OF THE YEAR. Is it January yet? It's not like you got cheated or something.
The is just installed as system app it doesn't mean the OS itself is doctored.. please go and learn about Android
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If it's installed on the system and you cannot remove it, then it is considered bloatware and the operating system has been doctored.
It is not a pure Android phone. I'm sure there is a thread already that exposes this project as a joint Xiaomi/Google project but run by Xiaomi. Your right about one thing...I should have done a little research into the so called Android One project.
Plenty of >Snapdragon chip phones out there in this price bracket I know it and so do you so stop pretending. And don't talk about power efficiency, that's why you pack a 4000+ battery!

pow01 said:
I'm beginning to feel completely misled about the Android 1 program. December and still no Oreo, I was thinking of a Pure Android with instant first in line updates to the latest software, similar to the Nexus and Pixel phones. My friend with an old One plus 3 received Oreo in Early November.
Also, this is not pure android. It's preloaded with Miu junkware.
Of particular interest is the feedback hub app. Is this a Google or Miu App? I thought the latter and there is no way to remove it from the phone.
I Bought this for the pure android experience and instant updates, but there are better tech/price handsets out there in this price range with decent battery and better screen/chips.
New buyers proceed with a little caution.
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You obviously aren't satisfied with the choice you made, so..sell the phone, buy "better phone in this price range", be happy. It's really as simple as that.
If you really believe that you have been lied to by Xiaomi, there are legal options which you can take. Search Google for legal services in your area, they'll be happy to discuss this point with you.

surajsun22 said:
Camera is rubbish? Are you high on something?
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Yes, it's really bad. The front facing camera is terrible and the pixelation on the rear is really bad. Forget about night time. And I was coming from a Nexus 5.
Which phone did you own previously?

_mysiak_ said:
You obviously aren't satisfied with the choice you made, so..sell the phone, buy "better phone in this price range", be happy. It's really as simple as that.
If you really believe that you have been lied to by Xiaomi, there are legal options which you can take. Search Google for legal services in your area, they'll be happy to discuss this point with you.
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Another bitter poster who is protecting his investment furiously rather than admitting it's shortcomings.
I did not say I had been lied to and I am fully aware of how to use Google search. But if you really think this matter requires me to seek legal assistance you really are a bit special.
What I am freely admitting is that I should have done more research on the Android One project as it is not what I thought it was. My bad and I learn from my mistakes.

Use a nexus device & u can instantly understand the difference.. Android one programs supposed to have faster updates & be more stable.. A1 is just a half hearted effort from Mi.. Bugs, bugs and more bugs.. Awesome hardware, but crap software.. And android one program is supposed to have os updates pushed by Google..
If u have used a nexus phone, u 'll know how soon they address bugs.. I used Nexus 5 & the first version of kitkat had a vdo recording problem.. It was addressed in just a matter of days.. The contact linking issue has not been addressed even after four or five updates..

That being said if it was just marketed as a Mi phone with Stock os it wud have been alright.. Its value for money.. But it doesnt do justice to the android one tag..

neojith said:
That being said if it was just marketed as a Mi phone with Stock os it wud have been alright.. Its value for money.. But it doesnt do justice to the android one tag..
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This is what I thought I had bought into. A Mi phone with stock OS.
I was mistaken and should haved looked a little deeper into it. As you said before, this is not even close to a Nexus/stock android experience.

@pow01 : ha ha.. i thought i was the only one coming from nexus 5.. oreo feedback seems to be good.. lets wait & see..
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santr33 said:
This forum is full of ****ing retards. They promised Ored by END OF THE YEAR and its still ****ing december and u STILL ****ING COMPLAIN. And just because it has 2 Xiaomi apps doesn't mean its not stock Android. Bloody fools. You complain about fcking everything.
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Bro.. Use a nexus device & u'll know the difference.. its not just about oreo.. the stutters, microlags, freezes, contact linking issue.. its frustrating.. if u have experienced android at its purest, u'd b swearing at Mi right now.. Nexus in marshmallow is still loads better than A1 with nougat..
For nexus fans, when Mi announced the Android one program it was a dream come true.. Mi is known for its vfm hardware.. Stock google os should be flying on this device.. not micro stuttering like on A1..
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santr33 said:
This forum is full of ****ing retards. They promised Ored by END OF THE YEAR and its still ****ing december and u STILL ****ING COMPLAIN. And just because it has 2 Xiaomi apps doesn't mean its not stock Android. Bloody fools. You complain about fcking everything.
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Bro.. Use a nexus device & u'll know the difference.. its not just about oreo.. the stutters, microlags, freezes, contact linking issue.. its frustrating.. if u have experienced android at its purest, u'd b swearing at Mi right now.. Nexus in marshmallow is still loads better than A1 with nougat..
For nexus fans, when Mi announced the Android one program it was a dream come true.. Mi is known for its vfm hardware.. Stock google os should be flying on this device.. not micro stuttering like on A1..

I came from Nexus 5X and yes, I feel the difference. I have snappier phone which keeps more apps in memory without closing them immediately during multitasking, I'm not experiencing unfinished HDR photos now, etc... I still receive monthly security updates and actually am happy that my device is not the very first one receiving major OS upgrade, as it often breaks many things (TWRP, root, not updated apps). So I'll rather wait couple of weeks or months until all developers catch up and I can continue using my device without hiccups.
I bought phones which I wasn't happy with in the past and guess what, I sold them and purchased something else. But if you feel that posting on forums that you made a mistake is the right way how to solve your problem..well.. be my guest, though not sure how is it supposed to help others.

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I came from Nexus 5X and yes, I feel the difference. I have snappier phone which keeps more apps in memory without closing them immediately during multitasking, I'm not experiencing unfinished HDR photos now, etc... I still receive monthly security updates and actually am happy that my device is not the very first one receiving major OS upgrade, as it often breaks many things (TWRP, root, not updated apps). So I'll rather wait couple of weeks or months until all developers catch up and I can continue using my device without hiccups.
I bought phones which I wasn't happy with in the past and guess what, I sold them and purchased something else. But if you feel that posting on forums that you made a mistake is the right way how to solve your problem..well.. be my guest, though not sure how is it supposed to help others.
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The camera on my Nexus 5 was better than the Mi A1 producing far superior images. I'm not looking to solve my problem I'm just happy to make others aware this is not a stock android experience. What I'm posting is valuable feedback for those thinking about buying one of these devices.
The bottom line is everything has to run through Beijing first before being released rather than coming straight from San Francisco.
I am happy with the phone and VFM (but it's no Nexus)
I am not happy with the way Xiaomi is executing Android One.

pow01 said:
Your really not getting this are you.
PURE.
The camera is rubbish. There are much better single cameras out there. The 'optical zoom' is a joke.
Yes it is still a good phone but the chip is very old now and there are plenty of other options.
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The "very old" chip is based on 14 nm technology, how are you calling it old? Sure, its not the most cutting edge, but it fares well when it comes to daily usage.
And yeah, having other camera apps surely would help. I think Mi camera app sharpens up the image a bit more.
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Bro.. Use a nexus device & u'll know the difference.. its not just about oreo.. the stutters, microlags, freezes, contact linking issue.. its frustrating.. if u have experienced android at its purest, u'd b swearing at Mi right now.. Nexus in marshmallow is still loads better than A1 with nougat..
For nexus fans, when Mi announced the Android one program it was a dream come true.. Mi is known for its vfm hardware.. Stock google os should be flying on this device.. not micro stuttering like on A1..
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You are right. I tried using Google Live Wallpaper on my A1, and it made the whole phone slow! Opening app drawer/jumping to home page, etc felt slower and laggy.
Funny thing is, I was using the same wallpaper on my Redmi 2s. It ran on that phone PERFECTLY FINE!!! No lags, no stutters, and no loss in battery life!! Sure, Redmi 2s has a 720p screen, and I could tell that the animations set to a lower resolution, but I'm disappointed that Mi A1 stutters with such beautiful wallpapers.
Get yo **** together, Xiaomi. Give Mi A1 the Android it deserves.
And to people who are *****ing that it isn't the stockest stockesty android, calm yo tits. It comes very close to Nexus levels stock, save a few apps. But still wish they had included Night Light tho.

Ah, now I see. This explains pretty much everything: "I'm not looking to solve my problem"
"this is not a stock android experience", which is only your opinion. As far I see this is stock android with very similar experience to Nexus devices with the same or better user experience. Obviously we don't have to agree with each other, but as you certainly won't accept another opinion than yours and are not able to discuss politely..so.. Have fun bashing Xiaomi and Google with your utterly useful posts (oh sorry, "valuable feedback" as you call it ).

Samsung rom on 6p

Hello everybody,
I'm wondering if any samsung rom has ever been created for the Nexus 6p.
Tried to find it on xda and Google, but didnt find any.
Thanks

neeko92 said:
Hello everybody,
I'm wondering if any samsung rom has ever been created for the Nexus 6p.
Tried to find it on xda and Google, but didnt find any.
Thanks
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Will never happen just buy a Samsung ?

Exodusche said:
Will never happen just buy a Samsung ?
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Come on ! :crying: Just want to try the rom and then go back to pure android rom

neeko92 said:
Hello everybody,
I'm wondering if any samsung rom has ever been created for the Nexus 6p.
Tried to find it on xda and Google, but didnt find any.
Thanks
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You didn't find any because there are none and there never will be. There's a reason Samsung has nicknames like "Samdung" and "Samsuck", or why their horribly mutilated version of Android is known as "Touchjizz": it's absolute trash.
If you really want to try it, then do as the person above me suggested and pick up a cheap Samsung device off eBay or Swappa or something and use that. Or go to your local Verizon/AT&T/TMobile/Sprint store, Best Buy, etc and play with one they have on the showroom floor.

Face_Plant said:
You didn't find any because there are none and there never will be. There's a reason Samsung has nicknames like "Samdung" and "Samsuck", or why their horribly mutilated version of Android is known as "Touchjizz": it's absolute trash.
If you really want to try it, then do as the person above me suggested and pick up a cheap Samsung device off eBay or Swappa or something and use that. Or go to your local Verizon/AT&T/TMobile/Sprint store, Best Buy, etc and play with one they have on the showroom floor.
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Lol.
Touchcrap was king of lag for a long time but Android O seems to have done away with that. I've had hands on with a friend's s8+ before and after update. No more lag.
S9+ speakers are a step above our 6p sad to say. Although not front facing, they're loud, full and clear.
If I was going to upgrade, the S9+ pushes all the right buttons.

tropical cactus said:
Lol.
Touchcrap was king of lag for a long time but Android O seems to have done away with that. I've had hands on with a friend's s8+ before and after update. No more lag.
S9+ speakers are a step above our 6p sad to say. Although not front facing, they're loud, full and clear.
If I was going to upgrade, the S9+ pushes all the right buttons.
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To be fair, I haven't used Samsung phone since my old Note 4 back in 2014, so things may have improved since then, but I don't plan to go back. A locked bootloader, no root, and being stuck 2 Android versions behind everyone else turned me away from Samsung for life.
They do make very nice hardware, but I don't care. I almost never physically touch the actual phone since I always put my device in a plastic/rubber case. The phone could be made of plastic, glass, metal, or whatever, my phones always feel the same due to the case. I also use headphones 99% of the time, so the speakers don't matter much to me either.

Well, I've finally picked up an s9 and traded in my 6p. It's the only phone which I can really consider an upgrade. Sammy spent a year on the stereo speakers and it sounds as much. Quality loudness. It's a good time to pick up the s9 since sales aren't up to expectation. It's a refined s8 and you didn't sign up as a guinea pig first time round.

tropical cactus said:
Well, I've finally picked up an s9 and traded in my 6p. It's the only phone which I can really consider an upgrade. Sammy spent a year on the stereo speakers and it sounds as much. Quality loudness. It's a good time to pick up the s9 since sales aren't up to expectation. It's a refined s8 and you didn't sign up as a guinea pig first time round.
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well, great.. you picked up one... but do remember, stock is stock. Nothing can beat it. Plus theres very little development for samsung s9. I had an s8, thats why m saying this.... All the custom roms that you'll try will be based on touchwiz not aosp.

salim0786 said:
well, great.. you picked up one... but do remember, stock is stock. Nothing can beat it. Plus theres very little development for samsung s9. I had an s8, thats why m saying this.... All the custom roms that you'll try will be based on touchwiz not aosp.
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Going to take a break from unlocking and rooting. Hardly flashed any custom roms on 6P anyway. On stock most of the time. I only rooted for the sound mods and xposed. Sammy is like the iPhone of Android. Everything is done for you. I'm going to sit back and hopefully enjoy what their well paid engineers have cooked up. Cheers.

tropical cactus said:
Going to take a break from unlocking and rooting. Hardly flashed any custom roms on 6P anyway. On stock most of the time. I only rooted for the sound mods and xposed. Sammy is like the iPhone of Android. Everything is done for you. I'm going to sit back and hopefully enjoy what their well paid engineers have cooked up. Cheers.
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That's where you're wrong...... Samsung will start lagging in like 6 months where as stock vanilla ROM doesn't. And why the hell are you comparing Samsung experience to that of iOS smoothness. IOS runs smooth even after years whereas Samsung will not. I have friends who own an s8 and they complained of lagginess

salim0786 said:
That's where you're wrong...... Samsung will start lagging in like 6 months where as stock vanilla ROM doesn't. And why the hell are you comparing Samsung experience to that of iOS smoothness. IOS runs smooth even after years whereas Samsung will not. I have friends who own an s8 and they complained of lagginess
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If you bothered to read what I wrote, I made the comparison based on the difficulty of unlocking and rooting a Samsung phone. Same as jailbreaking an iPhone i.e. they want you to use the phone as how they made it. I also have a friend who has an 8+ who says the lag has gone with Oreo update, something which I pointed out in my earlier post.
You heard about the deliberate slowing of older iPhones by apple on the pretext of improving their battery life?
I don't know what your disdain for Samsung is based on. It's not healthy.
This is my first Samsung phone. I'm not going to lose it if it doesn't suit me. I can always trade it in for something else.
It's only a phone. Get over it.

tropical cactus said:
If you bothered to read what I wrote, I made the comparison based on the difficulty of unlocking and rooting a Samsung phone. Same as jailbreaking an iPhone i.e. they want you to use the phone as how they made it. I also have a friend who has an 8+ who says the lag has gone with Oreo update, something which I pointed out in my earlier post.
You heard about the deliberate slowing of older iPhones by apple on the pretext of improving their battery life?
I don't know what your disdain for Samsung is based on. It's not healthy.
This is my first Samsung phone. I'm not going to lose it if it doesn't suit me. I can always trade it in for something else.
It's only a phone. Get over it.
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I dont hate samsung at all. Just saying that stock is always preferred. I meanvanilla android. I used s8 with oreo (before I sold it). And coming to unocking, its damn easy....... And coming to lagging, I know samsng has come a long way in that area but see the nexus is almost 3 years old and shows minmal lag (due to old hardware), can you say that about samsung? And ya the most beautiful phone in terms of aesthetics is made by Samsung (No one can deny that).
Coming to deliberate slowing of iphones, I heard that and their explaination is somewhat justified as you can have top notch performance and amazing battery life.
Whats the point of freedom of speech if you can't criticize something for their shortcomings

salim0786 said:
I dont hate samsung at all. Just saying that stock is always preferred. I meanvanilla android. I used s8 with oreo (before I sold it). And coming to unocking, its damn easy....... And coming to lagging, I know samsng has come a long way in that area but see the nexus is almost 3 years old and shows minmal lag (due to old hardware), can you say that about samsung? And ya the most beautiful phone in terms of aesthetics is made by Samsung (No one can deny that).
Coming to deliberate slowing of iphones, I heard that and their explaination is somewhat justified as you can have top notch performance and amazing battery life.
Whats the point of freedom of speech if you can't criticize something for their shortcomings
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Watch what needs to be done to unlock and root. Not as easy as other phones.
https://youtu.be/g3IppGISkP0

tropical cactus said:
Watch what needs to be done to unlock and root. Not as easy as other phones.
https://youtu.be/g3IppGISkP0
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U watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-F4WbU8N80&t=155s
Its fairly easy, not as easy as stock but comparable

I cant even believe what i'm reading. Is this a joke thread or something?