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I currently have a lower end Windows CE 6 Chinese head unit. Im pretty sure it runs on a 400 or 600 mb cpu, several years old, slow and laggy at times and very UNmoddifiable.
I have been tweaking my andoid phones for YEARS and i think an android head unit may just be the perfect fit.
Here's the unit im looking at:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0SH028Y7K2WX3TYN9R17
YINUO QUAD CORE 16GB 1024*600 Android 4.4.4 7" Car DVD Player GPS Stereo with Capacitive Digital Screen In Dash Navigation Receiver support GPS/iPhone/DVD/AM FM Radio/Steering Wheel Control/Bluetooth/Built-in Wifi Hotspots/3G/OBD2/DVR/AV-IN with Free External Mic &8GB Map Card as gift
by YINUO
Sold by AUTOTOP and Fulfilled by Amazon. Gift-wrap available.
Want it Monday, Aug. 24? Order within 12 hrs 11 mins and choose Two-Day Shipping at checkout. Details
3. EASY-GO DEVICE: with these devices, your car life will be cozy and handy, i.e. you will find it easier to get to a new or complex place by 2D/3D GPS navigator and voice guidance(GPS map pre-loaded at a free 8GB map card); hands-free calling or browsing contacts will come in handy by built-in bluetooth; further more, it must be amazing to hold useful operations like phone call, music, wifi, bluetooth, EQ all in hand by steering wheel control.
1. SYSTEM & SCREEN: Unlike other stereo, our unit's CPU is upgrated from dual core to Quad Core, along with Samsung DDR3 1GB RAM, you can enjoy a much more smoother running of 3D/3D map, game or video. 8GB flash memory is also upgraded to 16GB for a much more enjoyable experience of gaming, video-watching & app-downloading. The Double din car stereo is loaded with latest Android Kitkat, which is as easy to pick up as Android phone.; And you'll be fully immersed by high fidelity image&video with digital screen. Digital screen delivers accurate color & rich crisp content which can be seen from 175 degree. It is sunlight readable TFT-LCD screen.
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Ive poked around on here and havent found anything about this particular HU.
Any experience with similar units and any advice is much appreciated!
Is the price ($500) a good deal for the quality ond hardware of this unit?
Will i be able to use ROM's on here to update the sofware?
What can be done to this unit to get a better experience?
Thanks for any advice!
IMO Chinese HUs are like most Chinese products directly sold from China. Full of compromises and "gotchas".
But this is fine for MANY people, so don't let me dissuade you (too much).
There are 2 most popular "families" of Chinese HUs, sold by different vendors and with sometimes small changes.
Newsmy is the most recent and what I'd likely get if I was to buy one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...4-4-2-kitkat-head-unit-newsmy-carpad-t2865525
HuiFei is the older one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660662
Note that they both run Android 4.4 Kitkat at best. I think it's very unlikely either will be updated to Lollipop.
You can get some of these for as little as $300.
Thanks Mike.
I had read through some of that second thread you posted and that's kind of what got me wondering if the one I'm looking at is the same thing, repackaged into oem plastic.
All the specs are identical, both radios on allied express, (along with tons of the same spec radios in different oem models).
It got me wondering if mine (that I'm considering) would work with the roms available to the hui fei.
For all I know it's the exact same, just maybe different mcu for the buttons? (Is that how it works?)
bigd2442 said:
Thanks Mike.
I had read through some of that second thread you posted and that's kind of what got me wondering if the one I'm looking at is the same thing, repackaged into oem plastic.
All the specs are identical, both radios on allied express, (along with tons of the same spec radios in different oem models).
It got me wondering if mine (that I'm considering) would work with the roms available to the hui fei.
For all I know it's the exact same, just maybe different mcu for the buttons? (Is that how it works?)
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It should works with the roms here in XDA, my'n is Eonon and I'm using HuiFei roms and everything is great.
you just need to know what chip you have and as far as I know there is only two ( RK3188 & RK3066 ) and also know your screen size.
if you want to update the MCU ( communication control like Radio, AVIN, Sound etc) you need to know the MCU type like ( KLD .. etc)
which I don't recommended unless you have communication problems.
by the way your HU specification is very good ( Quad Core + Ram 1).
Thanks again for the help! Got it installed yesterday.
It's a KLD for whatever that matters. Very happy with it so far... Can't wait to play with it some more and start tweaking it to my needs.
How do you guys find wiring harnesses for these to plug into the OEM harness?
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How do you guys find wiring harnesses for these to plug into the OEM harness?
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Mine was made only for my vehicle, so the harness came with the unit.
But what you can do with a radio that is universal, is get a harness from ebay/amazon etc. for your specific type car. Metra and Scosche are 2 of the larger brand names, but there are tons.
Here is an example of one for 2008+ Honda
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_120701...50745&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=47718301945&awdv=c
Then you just sit down with the 2 harnesses (one adapter for your car and one that came with and plugs into the new radio) and match up the wires
Acc to Acc
Power to Power
LF speaker + to Lf speaker +
LF speaker - to Lf speaker -
and on and on........
After you finish doing that you should be able to plug into your factory harness and straight into the radio.
I'm tempted... but $300 is a hefty price for Chinese hardware. How long could these things likely last in So California heat?
I HAVE looked at years prices of brand name HU...
Telemachus said:
I'm tempted... but $300 is a hefty price for Chinese hardware. How long could these things likely last in So California heat?
I HAVE looked at years prices of brand name HU...
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I hope it can hold up to heat because Im in S. FL!
I spent quite a bit more than 300 too. (500) but so far the hardware is pretty sleek. Its definitly running better than my 300 dollar unit (memory and processor were 400/600 vs this 1G/1.6G) .
If it makes you feel any better, everything freaking comes from China. This just doesnt have a US company paying them to make it and slapping a faceplate on it that says "Clarion", etc.
(There are definitely ones that are subpar... so yes, its a roll of the dice. So far so good. Time will tell)
Is it an RK3066 or RK3188
So does it run the Malaysk and similar roms? I am looking at this one for my colleague: http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Nav...TF8&qid=1442536912&sr=8-2&keywords=yinuo+quad
Mine is RK3188. Other than that, the one you posted loos like its pretty much the same specs.
So far I am very happy with it. The previous Windows CE one i had (which was much much less ram and memory) was laggy and slow. This unit is fast and has had no crashes. Seems to be a nice hardware/software combo
mikereidis said:
IMO Chinese HUs are like most Chinese products directly sold from China. Full of compromises and "gotchas".
But this is fine for MANY people, so don't let me dissuade you (too much).
There are 2 most popular "families" of Chinese HUs, sold by different vendors and with sometimes small changes.
Newsmy is the most recent and what I'd likely get if I was to buy one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...4-4-2-kitkat-head-unit-newsmy-carpad-t2865525
HuiFei is the older one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660662
Note that they both run Android 4.4 Kitkat at best. I think it's very unlikely either will be updated to Lollipop.
You can get some of these for as little as $300.
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You forget Ownice which also produce for Navall.
I like the hardware in the Ownice devices, 1.6 GHz quad core, 2 gb mem, 16 gb eMMC storage , NXP radio tuner and... bluetooth 3 which sounds really great if you make a call.
HuiFei (KGL) that also produces for joying, pumpkin and so on, they have 1bg mem and uses bluetooth 2.
the only thing we don't have is root, but work is in progress to get it (i hope)
My advice and personal experience, DO NOT buy any Chinese radio. A few things to take into consideration:
1. Is it rootable? Why? (read on)
2. What's the memory on it? 4GB? 1GB is not enough, system uses about 400 of those 1024...you do the math.
3. Another way to "work" with this 1GB issue is to move apps to sd, guess what? Not *ALL* apps move, so you need to root the device and with TitaniumBackup or another app2sd solution move the apps you install to sd, and some won't update until you move back to internal memory, update, then move back to sd.
4. If you are using an app like Radio, Pandora, Spotify, whatever, iGO which is what most of these have, on every click it lowers the volume of your music.
5. If you are listening ot Pandora or Spotify (via wifi or 3g) and turn the radio on, you can barely hear the Pandora/Spotify music very low, not sure why, but I am having that issue. Having to stop all apps before switching to normal radio.
The unit I bought was the YINUO, they are telling me I can't root it, it's 1GB and I am stuck with 15 apps MOST. I want 30, 40, 50... What good is 16GB and an SD card with 32GB when you can only install 15 apps? I use NAVIGON, so I use an app called DirectoryBind (great app, btw) and it needs root, so I can put the NAVIGON maps on the GPS sdcard it comes with.
I am going to return my radio if the seller can't talk to the firmware or the person who sells them the radios to partition better that memory and make it where apps get installed in those 16GB because it's making me BOIL, and I spet $329.
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Flemischguy said:
You forget Ownice which also produce for Navall.
I like the hardware in the Ownice devices, 1.6 GHz quad core, 2 gb mem, 16 gb eMMC storage , NXP radio tuner and... bluetooth 3 which sounds really great if you make a call.
HuiFei (KGL) that also produces for joying, pumpkin and so on, they have 1bg mem and uses bluetooth 2.
the only thing we don't have is root, but work is in progress to get it (i hope)
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There you go, 2GB, that's better. At least better than the crappy 1GB almost all of these have. I will take a look at this radio, even if you can't root, because I don't need to root if I have more than 1GB... I don't know why, my Android TV (a CS918 II) I can install all my apps on the "sdcard" which is 16gb. That's the eMMC they use as internal, that's what they should've done with all these crapy radios..
I have a YINUO that I am VERY happy with, however our radios are vastly different from reading your specs. Unfortunately it sounds like you over paid for an old radio or one that was made to be MUCh cheaper than 300+.
I noticed the same radios at some places for sale at 185 and others 350.. SAME unit.
After a lot of research I paid 500 for mine (Amazon) and it fits perfectly into my weird factory spot( with a regular double din I would have needed an aftermarket adapter kit and not looked stock).. and its a Quad Core, android 4.4.4 Kitkat, 4BG memory and 16 GB Ram. For just a little more than you spent look at how different the specs are. I also dont have the issues you have with audio levels. Mine has a lot of setting that can change that (ie in Igo8 I can set it to beep when I push a button and chage the level of the beep.. if i mute the beep i would get a audio pause, but I can also uncheck the option and get no change with touch)
From the Amazon page:
Double din in dash navigation with WSVGA 1024*600 HD touch screen; Pure Android 4.4.4 Kitkat, RK3188 1.6GHz Cortex A9 Quad Core CPU, Samsung DDR3 1GB RAM, 16GB flash memory, Mali 400MP GPU
Car DVD CD Player with AM FM RDS Radio Tuner; Support iPhone 5 5c 5s 6 Airplay and audio input, Android phone Mirror link; Play music or video via SD card or USB; Support 1080P video and 3D game; Support subwoofer and EQ, 4*50W power output
Built-in GPS navigation with dual zone function, Bluetooth for hands-free phone call and music playback; Support Steeing Wheel Control, ELM327 OBD2; Support AV-IN reverse camera, DVR Digital Video Recorder; Support internet surfing via 3G WiFi Hospots
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Unfortunately, if you bought from overseas you are screwed on returns. I did the same thing with a lesser stereo that was a different Chinese vendor. It shipped from Hong Kong and required return to Hong Kong.. (180 bucks at most shippers, 100 through USPS snail freight) The Yinuo I bought was Chinese but they said returns are to their warehouse in the US, so I took the chance and ended up very happy.
But yes, Chinese radios are a gamble and hardware specs are EXTREMELY important.
If you dont buy the latest youre likely going to regret it.
Sorry you had that bad experience.
m4f1050 said:
My advice and personal experience, DO NOT buy any Chinese radio. A few things to take into consideration:
1. Is it rootable? Why? (read on)
2. What's the memory on it? 4GB? 1GB is not enough, system uses about 400 of those 1024...you do the math.
3. Another way to "work" with this 1GB issue is to move apps to sd, guess what? Not *ALL* apps move, so you need to root the device and with TitaniumBackup or another app2sd solution move the apps you install to sd, and some won't update until you move back to internal memory, update, then move back to sd.
4. If you are using an app like Radio, Pandora, Spotify, whatever, iGO which is what most of these have, on every click it lowers the volume of your music.
5. If you are listening ot Pandora or Spotify (via wifi or 3g) and turn the radio on, you can barely hear the Pandora/Spotify music very low, not sure why, but I am having that issue. Having to stop all apps before switching to normal radio.
The unit I bought was the YINUO, they are telling me I can't root it, it's 1GB and I am stuck with 15 apps MOST. I want 30, 40, 50... What good is 16GB and an SD card with 32GB when you can only install 15 apps? I use NAVIGON, so I use an app called DirectoryBind (great app, btw) and it needs root, so I can put the NAVIGON maps on the GPS sdcard it comes with.
I am going to return my radio if the seller can't talk to the firmware or the person who sells them the radios to partition better that memory and make it where apps get installed in those 16GB because it's making me BOIL, and I spet $329.
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There you go, 2GB, that's better. At least better than the crappy 1GB almost all of these have. I will take a look at this radio, even if you can't root, because I don't need to root if I have more than 1GB... I don't know why, my Android TV (a CS918 II) I can install all my apps on the "sdcard" which is 16gb. That's the eMMC they use as internal, that's what they should've done with all these crapy radios..
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bigd2442 said:
I have a YINUO that I am VERY happy with, however our radios are vastly different from reading your specs. Unfortunately it sounds like you over paid for an old radio or one that was made to be MUCh cheaper than 300+.
I noticed the same radios at some places for sale at 185 and others 350.. SAME unit.
After a lot of research I paid 500 for mine (Amazon) and it fits perfectly into my weird factory spot( with a regular double din I would have needed an aftermarket adapter kit and not looked stock).. and its a Quad Core, android 4.4.4 Kitkat, 4BG memory and 16 GB Ram. For just a little more than you spent look at how different the specs are. I also dont have the issues you have with audio levels. Mine has a lot of setting that can change that (ie in Igo8 I can set it to beep when I push a button and chage the level of the beep.. if i mute the beep i would get a audio pause, but I can also uncheck the option and get no change with touch)
From the Amazon page:
Unfortunately, if you bought from overseas you are screwed on returns. I did the same thing with a lesser stereo that was a different Chinese vendor. It shipped from Hong Kong and required return to Hong Kong.. (180 bucks at most shippers, 100 through USPS snail freight) The Yinuo I bought was Chinese but they said returns are to their warehouse in the US, so I took the chance and ended up very happy.
But yes, Chinese radios are a gamble and hardware specs are EXTREMELY important.
If you dont buy the latest youre likely going to regret it.
Sorry you had that bad experience.
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No, Amazon. I don't do eBay or non-Amazon anymore. Returns suck overseas...
All I have to do is drop off the radio at a UPS store. I had to buy a cable, they sold me 2 x DHL $25 7-14 day delivery for the cable, that's the only thing I am thinking they can probably scr3w me, but no, because I asked them if they would refund me the $50 if the cable didn't work and they said $45, well, the cable worked, but for a radio I am returning and doesn't work for me, so they will also have to return me the cable and shipping (at least $45 out of $50 and they have to provide the shipping back) since I can't use the radio. When I went to "Factory Reset" it asked me for a password, which they say they can't give me???? C'mon, seriously they are going to make me go through every single app and uninstall it...? Jeez... Not bad experience to learn from....
bigd2442 said:
I have a YINUO that I am VERY happy with, however our radios are vastly different from reading your specs. Unfortunately it sounds like you over paid for an old radio or one that was made to be MUCh cheaper than 300+.
I noticed the same radios at some places for sale at 185 and others 350.. SAME unit.
After a lot of research I paid 500 for mine (Amazon) and it fits perfectly into my weird factory spot( with a regular double din I would have needed an aftermarket adapter kit and not looked stock).. and its a Quad Core, android 4.4.4 Kitkat, 4BG memory and 16 GB Ram. For just a little more than you spent look at how different the specs are. I also dont have the issues you have with audio levels. Mine has a lot of setting that can change that (ie in Igo8 I can set it to beep when I push a button and chage the level of the beep.. if i mute the beep i would get a audio pause, but I can also uncheck the option and get no change with touch)
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Hi, where did you find a 4GB RAM 16GB Android radio at? I searched Amazon like crazy but none to be found.
m4f1050 said:
Hi, where did you find a 4GB RAM 16GB Android radio at? I searched Amazon like crazy but none to be found.
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Woops, I actually typed part of that wrong, sorry.. it was 1GB of RAM, and 16GB. Still a HUGE improvement over the older ones that had like 400 Ram and 1-4GB.
Mine was specific to my truck but here's some others.....
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=YINUO+QUAD+CORE+16GB
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Woops, I actually typed part of that wrong, sorry.. it was 1GB of RAM, and 16GB. Still a HUGE improvement over the older ones that had like 400 Ram and 1-4GB.
Mine was specific to my truck but here's some others.....
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=YINUO+QUAD+CORE+16GB
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Oh..... That's the one I have, not the older one. So I guess I paid ok. $319 for mine. 1GB, 16GB with Malaysk ROM I managed to get 2GB for apps and all my apps got installed and newer launcher, better phone app, lots of goodies! I AM SUPER HAPPY with mine now!!!
Do you happen to know the dimensions?
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Oh..... That's the one I have, not the older one. So I guess I paid ok. $319 for mine. 1GB, 16GB with Malaysk ROM I managed to get 2GB for apps and all my apps got installed and newer launcher, better phone app, lots of goodies! I AM SUPER HAPPY with mine now!!!
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How much was the rooted rom?
Dave
I am looking to buy an android head unit. I've found a few with different specs and screen sizes. I am wondering if someone with some experience with these units can help.
I'm trying to choose between these 3 units.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-1-Quad-C...For-Toyota-Highlander-2011-2014-/181834823295
This one is 10 inches (good), runs android 4.4.4 (good), all the latest specs...but it says it only works on 2011-2014 toyota highlander models. I have a 2009. It doesnt make sense because all of the other ones are made for Highlanders from 2008-2013, which is the 2nd gen and this looks like it is an exact replacement for my head unit. Not sure I want to gamble on that, otherwise this would be my first option.
http://www.carjoying.com/quad-core-...ouch-screen-1024-600-resolution-double-d.html
This one is only 8 inches, but it gets good reviews from some users on the Toyota Highlander forum. IT has all of the latest specs, like the one above. And it is made for my model year.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pure-Androi...n-/181738329265?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
This one is 10 inches, but it has an older dual-core processor and is on android 4.4.2. It is also made for my model year.
There are so many options and they all look a little different. I dont know how to choose!!! I am mostly planning to use this for navigation, bluetooth audio/calling, and FM/AM radio. Of course, all of the android functionality is great, but those core functions are the most important for me. Anyone have any ideas?
I do not have a highlander, but have been doing days and days of research and cannot decide. I am on the market for a generic 7in double din unit. Hopefully some people who have lots of experience with these HUs can chime in to provide guidance/input.
I have been looking at joying, but they seem to only provide HUs with 1GB memory only. Is the 1GB memory enough? Most units these days have 2GB options.
Most units these days have 2GB options.
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Actually most of the units ARE 1GB units. Pretty much every single android head unit on the market uses the exact same small CPU/memory integrated sub-board that plugs into the main board on their unit. In fact the same motherboards are used between the dual and quad core, 8gb and 16gb flash models, only that small internal pluggable cpu board is different. It is also possible that these units will be able to be upgraded to faster CPU's with more ram in the future by swapping out the CPU boards.
All of the 2GB units right now appearing on the market, are usually a totally different design of having an entirely separate android pizza box(I am guessing they are repurposed TV boxes or something) which you have to figure out how to install somewhere and also a separate screen unit that you also have to install in the dash. The 1GB RAM head units are all a single integrated unit that installs in the regular double din location. I personally like the traditional single unit designs myself and chose not to use a 2GB unit because of that.
But really the choice comes down to price, specs (quad core, 16gb space, 1024x600 screen is what seems to be the best specs), and the features, button layout, if you want a DVD slot, or one without so you get a bigger screen, etc.. and then of course if you care about who you purchase it from and support etc..
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Actually most of the units ARE 1GB units. Pretty much every single android head unit on the market uses the exact same small CPU/memory integrated sub-board that plugs into the main board on their unit. In fact the same motherboards are used between the dual and quad core, 8gb and 16gb flash models, only that small internal pluggable cpu board is different. It is also possible that these units will be able to be upgraded to faster CPU's with more ram in the future by swapping out the CPU boards.
All of the 2GB units right now appearing on the market, are usually a totally different design of having an entirely separate android pizza box(I am guessing they are repurposed TV boxes or something) which you have to figure out how to install somewhere and also a separate screen unit that you also have to install in the dash. The 1GB RAM head units are all a single integrated unit that installs in the regular double din location. I personally like the traditional single unit designs myself and chose not to use a 2GB unit because of that.
But really the choice comes down to price, specs (quad core, 16gb space, 1024x600 screen is what seems to be the best specs), and the features, button layout, if you want a DVD slot, or one without so you get a bigger screen, etc.. and then of course if you care about who you purchase it from and support etc..
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Nixfu - thanks for the prompt response...this is very helpful information! What about the screens? Are they also similar across the board? I do not mind paying more money for a reliable/stable unit...I am more concerned about the risk of purchasing a HU plagued with software/hardware issues. One of the things I would like is having the ability to configure the HU to go into suspend when the power is switched off. I have seen several units that can be configured up to 2 hours suspend, but would like to be able to increase that up to potentially 24/48 hours or maybe more. You may have talked me into purchasing a CarJoying HU with your post/review of it Can that unit be configured to go into suspend longer than 2 hours when car ignition is switched off? Thanks again!
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Can that unit be configured to go into suspend longer than 2 hours when car ignition is switched off? Thanks again!
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No. I think they all have a min of 30secs and max of 2hours in the settings menu. Maybe that is something that Malaysk could add in his custom firmware.
Hi guys!
I am looking for a nice android based radio to my Outlander 2011. I found at least 5 types of design "Fascia change" devices. I think that they are not so popular among people so I have another question. I am looking for 2DIN newest device. Could you please give me a list of 5 newest or best pieces I should consider? It is very important for me to keep steering wheel buttons working and need very good sound quality on built in Rockford Fosgate audio system with external amp and 2-3ohm 8x speakers + woofer. I've heard that some devices not work properly or give not exciting experience.
Thanks a lot!
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If you looking for a Android aftermarket there is no way you can choose with audio like the way you wanted. They're just simply like China Android phone or tablet placed on your car.
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So there is no any bestseller?
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Personally, I'm waiting for the 8 core systems to mature a bit. I have a 4 core, and it's a little sluggish. I find myself having to roll back to 4.4.4 after upgrading to 5.1. Just too slow. The new 8 core systems are out, but it still seems early to make a firm decision. Ownice and Indashnet seem to be the 2 main manufacturers that I've seen. Everyone else does 4 core. Joying has a 2GB Intel based system that kind of rests in the middle, but considering it costs about the same as an octacore, I would rather wait a bit to see which of those the community takes to the most.
I got deeper into those 8 core and they seem to be super crappy as they use extremely slow Allwinner and Mediatek A53 which sucks. Intel in Joying looks interesting but this device has problems with obdii and few other things. I ve seen pumpkin doing also intel device. However maybe some of you know if there is any manufacturer who still has dvd slot with Intel SoFIA and 2GB + USB for pendrive music? Or at least USB.
On the other hand - is it very hard to make car USB in armrest working with such android device?
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Or on the other hand - What about Windows CE 6.0 devices - are they causing less problems? What I need is nice and smooth infotainment system, working steering wheel buttons, bluetooth and usb and fast boot after turning engine on.
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Right now I believe the 2GB Intel Sofia head units with Android 5.1.1 from Joying are the best. There are 8 core units on the way, but who knows if that's one month or six months down the road... There are also some units advertising Android 6, but reports seem to indicate that these are a mess of a mashup between 4.4, 5.1 and 6.0, and not true 6.0 units. As for performance, I'm pretty happy with the Intel unit. I wouldn't use it for gaming, but it does all what I need it to do which is Maps, Spotify, 1080p movies and so forth. Unless you have some specific need for doing something that requires very high performance, it is quite adequate as a head unit in a car.
As for special sound setups, it gives you preamp outputs, 4 channels (FR/FL and RR/RL) as well as a sub output. The sub output isn't really managed though, so no crossover or phase selection on it. You can use these preamp outputs to hook up aftermarket amplifiers, but don't expect the head unit to power big speakers with the internal amplifier.
I didn't read the same things about the 8 core units on here. Many people are saying that the CPUs are a lot faster than the Intel cpus, and at least some of them are running true 6.0, not a mashup. It's legit, but nothing has been rooted and the community is still divided. I've definitely read that the Intel CPUs won't be upgrading past 5.1 because they're no longer supported by the manufacturer as well.
My source is mostly this post, and the thread it's in:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70311462&postcount=12
As far as I know, yes Intel has dropped the Atoms, but Rockchip has taken over the chips and will continue making them and supporting them as per a cooperation agreement with Intel (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockchip look at the bottom to see Intel Sofia 3G). Intel may have pulled out, but the architecture isn't dead yet. Sure, it may be dying and might not have any new direct successors, but I recon it's time to upgrade the entire head unit long before it reaches the end of its useful lifespan (2-3 years). This will be true for any smart android head unit you buy today anyway..
Do any of the other 2GB RAM Android Head Units available today have a true sleep or suspend (ultra low power mode) that allows the unit to start up instantly like the 2GB Intel Sofia models? To clarify, this instant on feature is not the same as the past Rockchip or other cpu type of Android head units that have options for delayed shutdown of up to two hours or more. This new feature means you do not have to wait 30 to 60 seconds for the system to fully boot after sitting for a few hours or days. IMHO, the instant on feature combined with 2GBs of RAM appears to be the best or one of the best options for Android head units available today. Do the latest Ownice or Indashnet units have this instant on feature? If not, that would be a deal breaker for me, as I have Joying and Hotaudio units that work fine for most part (thanks to the xda firmware developers and contributors here). Nonetheless, these older 1GB RAM Rockchip units could be faster and the boot time is not acceptable in a vehicle.
Moreover, any Android head unit that does not allow for root access would be a complete deal breaker here, no matter how fast... (no root = no purchase). The one thing that concerns me with the 2GB Intel Sofia models is that nobody on xda appears to have found a way to access Recovery yet.
In regard to audio quality, even the 1GB RK3188 JY and HA units sound decent in my Mitsubishi with the correct factory amp adapter wiring kit and the Viper V4A audio mod app.. Please note that I'm not an audiophile by any means, so your mileage will vary.
Anyway, just my 2 cents... and thanks in advance to anyone that can let me know if any of the other Android head units have the instant on feature.
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I recently installed a Joying 2GB RAM intel head unit, and although it is NOT a high powered cpu ( 4cores at 1.1 Ghz) it does seem adequate for its purpose.
Typically I run torque / bluetooth ODBII, dashcam/dvr, music app, tablet talk, read it to me, and google maps at all times. Processor usage is normally in the 50-65% range and it still seems quite snappy. The intel chip does run hot, and thermal throttling can be a issue. I added a big heatsink and fan at the top of the case, problem solved. The instant on works very well. When starting the car it automatically finds my phone, ODBII adapter, and hotspot within a couple of seconds of power on.
It does suck not having any type of recovery such as TWRP. The only way to recover from a non-booting system is a full reload of the stock ROM. It does leave the /data partition so at least all your apps are still there, and most settings can be restored using titanium backup. Just today I updated the boot animation with one I created and it wouldn't boot. It took me about 1 hour to get it restored back. At least it does have root out of the box.
The Joying is my first android based HU, and I'm actually quite impressed with it so far.
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As far as I know, yes Intel has dropped the Atoms, but Rockchip has taken over the chips and will continue making them and supporting them as per a cooperation agreement with Intel (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockchip look at the bottom to see Intel Sofia 3G). Intel may have pulled out, but the architecture isn't dead yet. Sure, it may be dying and might not have any new direct successors, but I recon it's time to upgrade the entire head unit long before it reaches the end of its useful lifespan (2-3 years). This will be true for any smart android head unit you buy today anyway..
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I guess my issue here is that I, also, already have a 1gb 4 core unit. So, for me, I'm looking for a bit of a better upgrade if I'm going to spend another $400 so soon. I am, honestly, hoping for a way to upgrade my current system - I don't think they'll make compatible modules for the Intel or the octa core. That said, I'm going to limp along with my current system as long as I can before making a decision. I think that for those making a decision right this minute, there's a lot to take into consideration. I would seriously recommend avoiding the 1gb RK3066 or RK3188 units at this point, though.
If you have a head unit that works today and you're not in immediate need of a new one today, then you can safely wait and see what the coming months will bring. It seems that the market for these Android units are finally moving away from 1GB ram units, in favor of 2GB ram. At this point, you should avoid everything which only comes with 1GB ram. I never had one, but from what I read they didn't allow much in terms of multitasking. The 2GB units will always perform better than the 1GB units, so the choice is fairly easy there. The benefit from the Joying Intel units, is that they are the only ones I've seen so far which offer 32GB internal storage. I don't understand why in 2016, now 2017 the other manufacturers insist on sticking with 16GB internal storage, but this gives a quite distinctive advantage to Joying. Also the previously mentioned sleep mode where you get true instant on feature is really nice.
Can someone having Rockford in Mitsubishi can tell anything about built in car BT and phone buttons in steering wheel? They still work or at least are used to control phone functions in HU?
What about USB in arnrest and AUX - do they work or is it possible to wire them for working?
Rockford will still have it's power? HU amp is written to have 4x50W while whole system is 8 speakers + 1 woofer altogether 710W. What is rockford's input?
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Hilari0 said:
If you have a head unit that works today and you're not in immediate need of a new one today, then you can safely wait and see what the coming months will bring. It seems that the market for these Android units are finally moving away from 1GB ram units, in favor of 2GB ram. At this point, you should avoid everything which only comes with 1GB ram. I never had one, but from what I read they didn't allow much in terms of multitasking. The 2GB units will always perform better than the 1GB units, so the choice is fairly easy there. The benefit from the Joying Intel units, is that they are the only ones I've seen so far which offer 32GB internal storage. I don't understand why in 2016, now 2017 the other manufacturers insist on sticking with 16GB internal storage, but this gives a quite distinctive advantage to Joying. Also the previously mentioned sleep mode where you get true instant on feature is really nice.
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The 32GB doesn't matter as much to me because I don't install that many apps. I have a 128gb USB stick connected for my music, and I can easily jump that much higher if I need to. 2gb ram is definitely important. The faster the CPU the better, though. My quad core 3188 is sluggish even when I don't have anything loaded and I'm not maxing the RAM.
A mate installed a yum cha Joying JY-135 and it seems ok. Radio signal seems to be weak. It seems to auto connect via bt to a Samsung 6 and starts to play audio but I have to manually press play to start audio on my M9. The screen doesn't dim when you turn the lights on which kind of sucks.
I think for music it should be fine and works well in my mates Nissan. As for me, I'd be using the rca's, just a shame that there's no sub volume control so you'll need a separate sub control knob.
choochee - which car do you have?
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choochee - which car do you have?
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Mates car is a Nissan X-Trail '07. I've got a Subaru Liberty Gen 4. We'll connect it with the proper supplied loom soon, only temp spliced at the moment. Can confirm that hu turns on straight away.
Almost made decision but still need to get sure. There are 2 options with Intel Sofia: pumpkin and joying (2DIN standart) Which one better to choose and why?
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Can someone having Rockford in Mitsubishi can tell anything about built in car BT and phone buttons in steering wheel? They still work or at least are used to control phone functions in HU?
What about USB in arnrest and AUX - do they work or is it possible to wire them for working?
Rockford will still have it's power? HU amp is written to have 4x50W while whole system is 8 speakers + 1 woofer altogether 710W. What is rockford's input?
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Hi, i have just installed a Joying UL-135N2 in my 2011 Outlander Rockford Navi.
Some part of the installation where quite manageable, but some parts are more complicated.
With the right adaptor, CTSMT002.2 from connects2 the Rockford and the SWC works.
The original BT will not work, but the SWC works with the HU BT functions.
Reverse camera needs 6.8V signal from the HU, so here you need an step-down converter and some soldering.
The USB in the armrest needs an adaptor cable, alternatively you can disassemble the mid console and solder the cable.
I have ordered the step-down and the adaptor cable , but not received yet. I have tested the camera with 6V, but the image quality is poor, hope the 6.8V is better.
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Hi all,
I'm totally new here and have no experience with android HU's at all!
I recently bought a Skoda Octavia (2012) with a RNS315 in it. It seems the navigation updates are quiet expensive and the navigation itself is not that good I think. So I started looking for an other device.
I would love to keep basic functions as: PDC, airco, maxidot, steer wheel controls,...
My eyes felt on the Joying android HU's, especially the ones with the look as the VM130N2. This device still have some buttons on it, which is handy in the car I think.
This model exist in the Intel Atom X3 version and the Rockchip PX5. Is the last one the better choice? (newest version I guess)
Or are there other brands that are better for (almost) the same price?
I've read the Joying HU can use some extra cooling, but installing a fan isn't that big problem I think.
Does these units display the name of the radio station on the screen? Or only the frequency?
Thanks in advance!
By trading your RNS for Joying you'll surely get better navigation, but you are going to miss:
- sound quality
- radio reception quality
- Maxidot integration (no navi guidance at all)
- overall quality/integrity
But again the whole Android world will be at your disposal. I traded my RNS510 for Joying and did not have a temptation to get it back despite all Joying's flaws.
Other brands that are better for sound quality? (Pumpkin, Eonon,...)
The Joying HU are on Android 6 others are on Android 8, isn't it a shame to buy an older system now? Or no problem at all to update to the newest Android software?
Vennet84 said:
Other brands that are better for sound quality? (Pumpkin, Eonon,...)
The Joying HU are on Android 6 others are on Android 8, isn't it a shame to buy an older system now? Or no problem at all to update to the newest Android software?
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If you buy a Sony you definitely have better sound quality.
If you buy a Joying, buy the one without the internal amplifier, for example the VM130N2 you mention and NOT the VM130N2D. You better use an external amp to improve the sound.
I have a Joying VM130N2 and would buy either a Joying or Dasaita back.
Atom X3 (Sofia 3GR) is slightly faster than PX5, but the PX5 is 8-core. In the case of multi-threading apps (actually only Google apps), more cores might be useful on a "loaded" system. Even though the PX5 is an underperforming CPU and not better than an Atom X3, it still is the future for the coming 1-2 years as every supplier is abandoning the PX3 and Sofia 3GR, and switching to PX5.
If you want to run custom ROMs, you better choose a Joying or Witson Sofia 3GR (gtx made a very good custom rom) or a PX5 mtcd to be able to use the Malaysk custom ROM. The Joying PX5s are non-mtcd units and therefore incompatible with the Malaysk ROM.
And w.r.t. Android 8: Choose very carefully. Some units are really running 6 or 7 and only have the look & feel of Android 8.
What do you think about the Dasaita HA2137-V840? Should have a better internal amp (don't know if it's true, or just publicity). Have had external amps in my car before, but don't want it in my "new" car.
Probably the dasaita isn't a PX5 mtcd?
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My $0.02. Skip the Chinese head units. I've been through 5 of them in the last 10 years. First was a single din media player. It died after 3 years. Second was an ebay purchase of a Windows CE with IGO in 2011ish. Seller said it had GPS--it didn't. Then the screen died sitting on the shelf when I tried firing it up a few years later. Next I bought a Windows CE with GPS unit lasted 3 years till till DVD player died in 2015. Then the res of the unit/screen died on the shelf after trying it a few years later. Then in 2015, I got an android allwinner A13 single core 4.04/8gb storage/1gb ram. The unit died after 2 years. Plus it was so slow and under-powered, that it was a waste of time to use. Then I bought a Joying intel sofia unit in 2017 January. It was pretty good unit until it stopped working. The screen started flaking out intermittently on and off after 9 months. Joying admitted they had a fault but that they fixed it the manufacturing process but the solder joints needed repair from too many heating/cooling cycles.
I'm done with this generic Chinese junk. These units simply are not weather resistant for long term exposure to the elements in the car, and they lack decent cooling. All of this is aside from various complaints of buggy software implementations.
So I bought a Pioneer unit head unit with Android auto, and so far quite happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-...86&sr=1-1&keywords=AVH-2300NEX+Multimedia+DVD
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What do you think about the Dasaita HA2137-V840? Should have a better internal amp (don't know if it's true, or just publicity). Have had external amps in my car before, but don't want it in my "new" car.
Probably the dasaita isn't a PX5 mtcd?
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Look at the AMP chip. In the Joyings it is a TDA7388. Some other brand units come with a TDA7850 chip and sometimes with a Pioneer PA2030A.
Those are much better.
The Dasaita HA2137-V840 does have the TDA7850 and a better radio chip than the joyings (that is also why I mentioned that I might buy a Dasaita back. All chinese units are definitely not top-quality, but the Dasaita is slighly better).
I have really no idea whether it is an MTCD unit. Please ask Dasaita directly via mail, either via AlieExpress of via their own site www.hot-audio.com
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So I bought a Pioneer unit head unit with Android auto, and so far quite happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-...86&sr=1-1&keywords=AVH-2300NEX+Multimedia+DVD
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Yeah, well. My brother bought a pioneer Android unit (can't remember which one). He had to wait 1½ year before they fixed the bluetooth issues.
So much for Pioneer. It is a mixed bag everywhere until you buy a unit of at least 750 euros/dollars.
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Vennet84;76001632 vHi all said:
My $0.02. Skip the Chinese head units.
So I bought a Pioneer unit head unit with Android auto, and so far quite happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-...86&sr=1-1&keywords=AVH-2300NEX+Multimedia+DVD
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I second that. Chinese Android head units may be a suitable upgrade for older cars but are no match for recent OEM units. And most recent OEMs include Android Auto/CarPlay support which renders manufacturer navi useless.
In your particular case, the RNS315 doesn't seem to have that but there seems to be a direct replacement, the RCD 330 Plus, that keeps all previous functionality and adds AA/CP connectivity.
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Hey all, I've been messing around with android for ages, I've built a head unit using a Nexus 7 running Timurs kernel. That's become fairly outdated now and I've discovered that I can buy one of the head units running android which does everything the nexus did but better.
But I am so out of the loop with all the terminology and it seems that there isn't an obvious Go-To brand.
I was hoping this forum could answer some questions that I'm sure a lot of people are asking. So,
What does MTCB, MTCD and FYT stand for, a basic explanation of them and why would you pick one over the other?
What are the most popular / widely accepted / most supported brands / models from each group?
I'm personally after a ~ 9 inch device I can use as a dash for my aftermarket PCM (RealDash is the app I'll use) that also has standard headunit features. I'm looking at a Joying unit but I want to know what my options are.
Thanks heaps for any information
Hopefully this can be made into a thread for new people to get the lowdown and basics of Android based head units.
I have had an ATOTO head unit for over a year now and I have been very pleased with it. I recently got a newer model that I will be swapping it out with soon.
ATOTO has the best value for features and performance on the market today. Their products are primarily sold on Amazon, and they also sell direct at https://store.myatoto.com/ . There are several reviews on Amazon and you can Google ATOTO reviews and read some independent ones as well. Overall, they come highly recommended. They have great customer support, but since they are overseas it is by email only with a 24-48 hour turnaround for a response. You can also search for ATOTO in the forums here and there are several threads.
I hope this helps...
I saw a video for beginners the other day on Youtube
He seems to have lots of other good videos.
I'm also new, even though I've used Joying for a decade.
It seems they all use the same image or build off a common base, like all units use a PX5 or PX6 rom image. I wonder if they build it themselves or where is the origin?
Atoto makes their own Android based custom ROM and UI, the current units are based on Android 10. Unfortunately, there is no resource I have found here to root this latest version. But, you can certainly install another UI like Nova Launcher and such.
BTW, their latest models have a 1024x600 IPS display with 178 degree viewing angle.
Atoto does not use these px5 or px6 images?
Ok, px5 and px6 are actually processors.
Then I guess what my next question is, do they build off a common Android for head units branch?
As in, I dont't think they all are branching the git repo of Android, instead of branching from some head unit branch?
This really ought to be a Wiki article (except XDA axed that) or a sticky. There are many people here who know a ton about Android but aren't conversant with head units. Most of the posts on this subforum have to do with specific problems for specific functions on specific units in specific cars. Not a great way to get an oversight.
Let me flesh out what I mean (from my naive knowledge and subject to correction/expansion):
Head units are composed of:
Chassis
Single DIN
Double DIN
Others?
Motherboard
STM32F microcontroller (usually?)
Speaker amplifier
FM radio tuner
WiFi interface
Bluetooth interface
Resistive steering wheel controls interface (2)
Serial interface to external, optional CAN BUS (OBDII) box
Rear view camera interface
GPS interface
Standardized? rear panel connectors
"Core board" (a pluggable, modular Android system) Often named after the Rockchip processor used, PX4, PX5, PX6. Is this the only format? Are these modules used for anything besides head units?
LCD/OLED Display
Renate said:
This really ought to be a Wiki article (except XDA axed that) or a sticky. There are many people here who know a ton about Android but aren't conversant with head units. Most of the posts on this subforum have to do with specific problems for specific functions on specific units in specific cars. Not a great way to get an oversight.
Let me flesh out what I mean (from my naive knowledge and subject to correction/expansion):
Head units are composed of:
Chassis
Single DIN
Double DIN
Car specific formats
Motherboard
STM32F, MTC*, CSN*, CSM*, FYT, RK7* and a couple of older and outdated boards still sold
Speaker amplifier
FM radio tuner
WiFi interface
Bluetooth interface
Resistive steering wheel controls interface (2)
Serial interface to external, optional CAN BUS (OBDII) box
Rear view camera interface
GPS interface
Standardized? rear panel connectors (no standard, as there are 30-pin, 21-pin, ISO and Quadlock connectors)
"Core board" (a pluggable, modular Android system) Often named after the Rockchip processor used, PX4, PX5, PX6. Is this the only format? (No, also some kind of ALLWINNER boards mainly acting with 8227L chipsets, Intel...) Are these modules used for anything besides head units? (not really, because they are just some sort of "reader" for the main board, the communication between the hardware and Android is completely different from any other Android device.)
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See my comments inline in red..
That is not that easy with these units.
The most important thing here is, that thread starter do not use the search function, which leads to a lot of duplicated threads. There needs to be a clear instruction to use the search and how to figure out which sub-forum to ask in, means the thread starter needs to know the facts of his unit in front....
As we see in the MTC and this forum, we often have to ask about MCU and Chipset and that leads often in asking the mods for moving the threads into the right forum.
If you ask me: I have no real idea how to get that structured in a way that someone who has the knowledge is able to help without check backs for details.
If you have a look at this forum, you might find some dozen of threads regarding the same MCU/Chipset... really not ideal.
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I saw a video for beginners the other day on Youtube
He seems to have lots of other good videos.
I'm also new, even though I've used Joying for a decade.
It seems they all use the same image or build off a common base, like all units use a PX5 or PX6 rom image. I wonder if they build it themselves or where is the origin?
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I have been watching this guy's videos as well, but can't helped getting the feeling he is being heavily sponsored by brands like Joying.
Also: I personally don't believe, that a octacore head-unit is necessarily. There a plenty of Quad-Core ARM A7 headunits out there, which are below €$£ 150 where as the octacore units are way more expensive.
€ 110,61 50%OFF | Ekiy T7 Qled Dsp Android Auto Radio Voor Suzuki Celerio Alto 2014 - 2018 Stereo Auto Multimedia Video Speler 2din carplay Gps Navi
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So personally I opted for a € 150 unit, featuring a 720P IPS screen, 2GB of RAM and 32GB storage and Apple Carplay and Android Auto support. The last one seemly is called AA, although AA is also the road assistance in the United Kingdom....
Anyway most people will tell you not to buy a Quad-Core unit, but I did it nevertheless. These units are in a way quite similar like the Nexus 7, which has a Cortex A9 instead of Cortex A7. The last one being one of the most energy efficient chipsets.... isn't that important as well for a car?
The Nexus 7 had a 800x1280 screen, and 1GB of RAM and worked just fine. Until the storage got screwed up.... I still have mine, but it doesn't seem to do much anymore.
One thing to consider: when using mainly Android Auto or Apple Carplay, than in theory even a 1GB RAM unit would be fine. I believe he tested some of these as well.... they where quite impressive for the money. Also technology is way better, than a few years ago. Even though it seems there hasn't been much going on at the budget side...
But budget head-units below € 150 used to be way worse: a few years ago I couldn't even find a single unit for my car, below € 250. Now it starts at € 110 with a completely integrated frame. Of course I would suggest adding € 40 more and getting atleast the unit with 2GB of RAM.
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I have been watching this guy's videos as well, but can't helped getting the feeling he is being heavily sponsored by brands like Joying.
Also: I personally don't believe, that a octacore head-unit is necessarily. There a plenty of Quad-Core ARM A7 headunits out there, which are below €$£ 150 where as the octacore units are way more expensive.
€ 110,61 50%OFF | Ekiy T7 Qled Dsp Android Auto Radio Voor Suzuki Celerio Alto 2014 - 2018 Stereo Auto Multimedia Video Speler 2din carplay Gps Navi
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vE6we4
So personally I opted for a € 150 unit, featuring a 720P IPS screen, 2GB of RAM and 32GB storage and Apple Carplay and Android Auto support. The last one seemly is called AA, although AA is also the road assistance in the United Kingdom....
Anyway most people will tell you not to buy a Quad-Core unit, but I did it nevertheless. These units are in a way quite similar like the Nexus 7, which has a Cortex A9 instead of Cortex A7. The last one being one of the most energy efficient chipsets.... isn't that important as well for a car?
The Nexus 7 had a 800x1280 screen, and 1GB of RAM and worked just fine. Until the storage got screwed up.... I still have mine, but it doesn't seem to do much anymore.
One thing to consider: when using mainly Android Auto or Apple Carplay, than in theory even a 1GB RAM unit would be fine. I believe he tested some of these as well.... they where quite impressive for the money. Also technology is way better, than a few years ago. Even though it seems there hasn't been much going on at the budget side...
But budget head-units below € 150 used to be way worse: a few years ago I couldn't even find a single unit for my car, below € 250. Now it starts at € 110 with a completely integrated frame. Of course I would suggest adding € 40 more and getting atleast the unit with 2GB of RAM.
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This is your personal thing.
I don´t recommend to buy such a QuadCore thing, as it is lame as hell, does not support deep sleep, does not provide any support in case there is something wrong with the unit. This, I already wrote to you in another thread.
Please don´t recommend such a nonsense as there are top units available for around 200-250 Euro/USD. It is may be okayish for you, but the majority wants and needs something which does not need these stupid AA or this Carplay.
To use any head unit just as a monitor for Android Auto or Apple Carplay is just a bit hard to understand, as the units with at least a PX5 has more functionality as Android Auto or Carplay would ever be able to provide.
Buy this overpriced unit with a QuadCore and I would really hope that we don´t read that you buyed just BS.
Well it's your personal opinion as well.... it ain't facts.... and it isn't overpriced. The euro is just very weak on the moment, one euro is only $ 0,99 I saw last time.
Ah well have fun with your expensive Chinese Android head-unit, I bet they break as fast as the cheaper ones and there won't be any difference when using Android Auto. And please stop calling it AA, because it's confusing as in British English that's how they call the road assistance. How do you call Apple Carplay then? AC? That's your air conditioner
For € 300 I can buy a JVC: so why the heck spend this kind off money, on a Chinese Android head-unit?
Anyway Saab Unleashed also tested an cheap ARM A7 unit, and it's just fine. This being even a unit with 1GB RAM and only 16GB storage. Also no 720P screen. It really depends on your own usage, how the experience with such a unit is.
Not all Android applications need so much processing. And also I don't believe it's a fact that these units don't support deep sleep. Because there is still a lot of difference between ARM A7 Android head-units. A quick search on Google learns, that deep sleep is supported within the ARM A7 chipset.
And it's not like that Joying or any other brand, is in the league of a Chinese brand like Xiaomi. So yes I rather go for a cheaper Android head-unit, even though it comes with a slower but very energy efficient chipset. Energy efficiency is also very important.
Oh and all Chinese goods bought directly from China, don't provide the warranty you are used to for example in Europe. If I buy a JVC unit, for € 300 than I can be sure to have warranty for atleast 2 years. An Chinese Android head-unit, no matter which price only provides warranty as long as the AlliExpress buyer protection lasts!
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This reinforces what I've been saying. This whole subforum is an inbred world only with difficulty accessible to a non-auto Android user (or even developer).
I presume from the above quote that those things are basically equivalent to Roku screen mirroring with some bells and whistles thrown in?
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This reinforces what I've been saying. This whole subforum is an inbred world only with difficulty accessible to a non-auto Android user (or even developer).
I presume from the above quote that those things are basically equivalent to Roku screen mirroring with some bells and whistles thrown in?
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Well that's usually the case isn't it? But I just recently heard about Roku, saw those streaming sticks lying in a Germany Saturn. Didn't know what it was, but I guess it's something like Amazon Fire stick?
But actually the cheapest vehicle specific headunits, don't even come with Apple Carplay or Android auto support. I considered getting the cheapest one, as they are all able to use native Android apps.
Only I was concerned, that 1GB RAM would not be enough to atleast run Google Maps and Spotify on the same time. So I looked further, compared multiple sellers. Mostly all offering the same ****....
So I was surprised that Ekiy, was offering a unit that came with a 720P IPS screen. While other resellers, sell these kind of units with a 1024x600 TN Screen.