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What is the reason for not supporting 6P?
I was slightly disappointed to only see 5X on the list.
The 6P is being worked on and is on pre-nightly status.
Look in the 6P Android Developement section for the OmniROM thread and read page10.
It may be a while for it to get the official tag, but you can already enjoy it.
Nekromantik said:
Hi
What is the reason for not supporting 6P?
I was slightly disappointed to only see 5X on the list.
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Same reason as any other device might not be supported - maintainer either does not exist or is too busy.
I know someone was working on it, but I'm not sure where they are.
Back when Nexus devices were heavily subsidized, they were "insta-buys" for any developer to have a recent AOSP reference device. Once they stopped heavily subsidizing them with the original 6, many of us had to start asking ourselves, "Do we ACTUALLY want this device as anything other than a development reference?" - which is why my latest Nexus device is a hammerhead. Too many of my Nexus devices would wind up just collecting dust.
Entropy512 said:
Same reason as any other device might not be supported - maintainer either does not exist or is too busy.
I know someone was working on it, but I'm not sure where they are.
Back when Nexus devices were heavily subsidized, they were "insta-buys" for any developer to have a recent AOSP reference device. Once they stopped heavily subsidizing them with the original 6, many of us had to start asking ourselves, "Do we ACTUALLY want this device as anything other than a development reference?" - which is why my latest Nexus device is a hammerhead. Too many of my Nexus devices would wind up just collecting dust.
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That's unfortunate.
6p is very good device. Much better then my HTC m9.
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should i buy this phone????
is it worth buying????
Only you can decide that. Watch the video reviews on YouTube and read the reviews all over the web.
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IMHO:
Very good value because of a) price, b) build quality, c) support, both from the manufacturer and ROM teams.
If you're only going for the raw power of the devices, there are cheaper alternatives having the same/very similar specs, but they lack in built quality and support. Or if you need more software feautes, you've got to pay more for HTC/Samsung.
I voted for the "underdog" since I don't like the big companies throwing out device after device and not giving proper support and I only payed ~80€ more than for a Nexus 4, getting double the RAM and a better display - besides, I'd be interested in a Google Edition from HTC/Samsung, but they won't arrive here any time soon.
Besides, I don't know a single task, except maybe hardcore gaming(which I wouldn't want to do on a phone), that doesn't work just fine with any recent phone, so imho it's all about personal preferences.
S.D.Richards said:
IMHO:
Very good value because of a) price, b) build quality, c) support, both from the manufacturer and ROM teams.
If you're only going for the raw power of the devices, there are cheaper alternatives having the same/very similar specs, but they lack in built quality and support. Or if you need more software feautes, you've got to pay more for HTC/Samsung.
I voted for the "underdog" since I don't like the big companies throwing out device after device and not giving proper support and I only payed ~80€ more than for a Nexus 4, getting double the RAM and a better display - besides, I'd be interested in a Google Edition from HTC/Samsung, but they won't arrive here any time soon.
Besides, I don't know a single task, except maybe hardcore gaming(which I wouldn't want to do on a phone), that doesn't work just fine with any recent phone, so imho it's all about personal preferences.
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is this good to go for nexus 4 rather than this phone???????
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is this good to go for nexus 4 rather than this phone???????
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Up to you.. Do you plan on flashing and modding your phone with custom kernels, ROMs, and recoveries? The N4 has a lot more development but the Find 5 has an incredible outlook on 3rd party development. So far I've seen 2 ads for the Find 5 from OPPO showing off custom ROMs running on them such as Official CyanogenMod 10.1 support and PAC ROM.. (I think the other was PAC ROM) so that right there is something to take into consideration should you need to return your device for any reason. No more flash counters or flashing back to stock..even though that's as easy as flashing their official firmware via .zip file that they release. Can even be flashed with CWM or TWRP. I won't try to butter up the software, because well... It needs work. But, with CM support and constant updates from the OEM, this is a phone to consider. Hardware wise... Fantastic, tough to beat, and the camera is a beaut!
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Hi everyone, I have a quick question and haven't been able to find the answer anywhere.
I just got the update to 4.3 last night on my Nexus 7. I forgot to check about Miracast support. I usually leave it at home for my wife and daughter and take my Nexus 10 to work.
I know the Nexus 10 got Miracast support with 4.3, but I need to know about the Nexus 7 and don't have it here to check. Can someone let me know?
Trying to swing by Best Buy on the way home and pick up the Netgear PTV3000
Thanks.
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Hi everyone, I have a quick question and haven't been able to find the answer anywhere.
I just got the update to 4.3 last night on my Nexus 7. I forgot to check about Miracast support. I usually leave it at home for my wife and daughter and take my Nexus 10 to work.
I know the Nexus 10 got Miracast support with 4.3, but I need to know about the Nexus 7 and don't have it here to check. Can someone let me know?
Trying to swing by Best Buy on the way home and pick up the Netgear PTV3000
Thanks.
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Only Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013), and Nexus 10 have Miracast Support.
https://support.google.com/nexus/7/answer/2865484?hl=en
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Only Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013), and Nexus 10 have Miracast Support.
https://support.google.com/nexus/7/answer/2865484?hl=en
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That's some BS. Do you know of any mods or ROMs that have added the support yet?
There is already a working Miracast rom, but people/dev don't seem to be interested, so I don't think this rom will be include it to the other popular rom out there for the Nexus 7 (2012).
Original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348991
I think some one got it working on PTV3000, if you read the Youtube comment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KNEmaIr3FEg
Here is a 3D gaming I asked him to test out, just in case some one wanna know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20s567tzTdM&feature=player_detailpage&t=316
Here is the rom site for it:
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Ota-packages
I don't have a Miracast receiver to test it out, but people who do can test it out.
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That's some BS. Do you know of any mods or ROMs that have added the support yet?
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It's not BS, because I answered your question with quotes. You didn't mention custom roms in OP.
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It's not BS, because I answered your question with quotes. You didn't mention custom roms in OP.
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Hahaha. I wasn't saying your answer was BS. I was saying that Google not including it in the 4.3 update for the N7 was BS.
There is already a working Miracast rom, but people/dev don't seem to be interested, so I don't think this rom will be include it to the other popular rom out there for the Nexus 7 (2012).
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This I never understood, why is that? I would have thought developers would have been right on to this. But kensuke has shown it is possible.
And watching the videos I think it's fantastic. Yes the gaming one had a bit of latency, but it looked minimal. Afaik, other devices (n4, n10) that officially support miracast have similar latency so I don't see why the n7 wasn't officially supported. I'm way more excited about this than chromecast which everyone seems to be freaking over.
I had a look at kensuke's page hoping for news on this being in 4.3 and saw this:
""Remove all traces of wifi display sink implementation and supporting code." "
Sink implementation means that a miracast device can act as a host. So you could miracast from one nexus 7 device to another.
But google has removed sink implementation in 4.3 source! Why would they do that?
Not that I would use the sink feature al the time, but it could be cool where you are trying to demo something to someone, they could just connect to your device and show them. I could think of lots of cool features with that, but for whatever reason, google has removed that code.
Yes the code is there in 4.2.2 but I imagine trying to put old code back can be difficult.
I read that from here:
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Android-4.3
I hope he's successful in getting miracast to work in 4.3 and I also hope he can reimplement the sink feature but again, I understand that may be difficult because of google removing it.
When I saw the gaming video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20s567tzTdM&feature=player_detailpage&t=316
I noticed how good the picture was. It made me wonder if there was anything in the miracast spec on performance/quality settings. When miracasting a movie I'd want the highest quality and wouldn't mind latency, but with a game or any realtime app, the less latency the better. I wonder if encoding at a lower bit rate would help tackle the latency? Maybe not as it's hardware encoding the steam and it's the onboard encoder chip and not the settings that would influence latency.
Thanks to kensuke for his efforts. I'm still somewhat surprised that it's taken this long for a developer to attempt to tackle this.
And I really hope other devs would show interest and incorporate this into their roms.
Im really surprised to see that no developer other than kensuke is interested about miracast support in nexus 7. This would be the best Customization ever done for nexus 7. A lot of people would be loving to have this feature yet there is only one rom which kensuke made for only miracast test purposes. It can not be ported to 4.3? - dont mind using 4.2.2 until i upgrade to 2013 nexus 7.
Devs hear us out!
Hi guys. Yesterday i bougth SONY TV with miracast feature. Can i use mentioned ROM to mirror screen of my N7 to SONY TV. I am still using Parandroid ROM(v.3.60) based on JB 4.2.2. Do i need to flash whole new ROM or there is any script or application that i can use?
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Im really surprised to see that no developer other than kensuke is interested about miracast support in nexus 7. This would be the best Customization ever done for nexus 7. A lot of people would be loving to have this feature yet there is only one rom which kensuke made for only miracast test purposes. It can not be ported to 4.3? - dont mind using 4.2.2 until i upgrade to 2013 nexus 7.
Devs hear us out!
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He talks about the sync issues at Github.
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Android-4.3
Also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44703331&postcount=57
Okay, I'm trying to get in the Sailfish game here. I bought a broken Xperia Z and brought it back to life just to find out the bootloader is unlockable. I'm SO angry because Virgin Mobile is refusing to unlock it because I'm not a customer (nothing wrong with the IMEI, I checked). Anyway, this has just doubled down my sheer determination to get out from under the carriers foot.
So I want to play too. I already gave my info to sledges and said I could help with documentation (I was told to hold tight). BUT since that Xperia is dead to me I wanted to know if I should go pick up a Nexus 4 and help with that adoption (install and test), or should I go get something else like a Moto G or a Nexus 5 and start playing. Where would I be the most help to the community?
Thanks,
Dinsdale247
Sounds like Nexus 4 and the Samsung S3 LTE are getting all the love, I was planning to get the Jolla phone, but after I found out the Nexus 5 was about the same price, with much better specs, and the fact that it is one of the most open phones you can get, I was looking at putting sailfish on it when it becomes available. I was actually surprised that work started on the Nexus 4 and not together with the Nexus 5, I guess no one whose porting has one.
It depends on what you're looking for in a phone, or if you just any phone that you can get the Sailfish OS on.
I would help with porting Sailfish to Nexus 5, but I have exams coming up, and no experience with porting.
There is a reason Nexus 4 is getting the attention.
It all comes back to the Hybris project. Many developers are using it as THE means to get ports jump started to Android hardware. Not only Sailfish, but Ubuntu Touch and Open Source webOS are contributing. Consensus seems to have been reached by the various developer communities that Nexus 4 and factory 4.2.2 offer the best hosting for modern hardware porting efforts with up-to-date spec and software stability on which to build.
IMHO, Nexus 4 is the clear choice for users in the field who want options. It's a stellar piece of hardware; yes there are more dynamically spec'd devices coming everyday, but mostly that capability is not being used for anything short of intense 3D gaming. If you want a solid phone that will have the spec to test unoptomized software Alphas and Betas this is a great unit and it has the radio hardware for near universal GSM access. The latest Android builds remain available, you can port Ubuntu Touch, you can (now) port Sailfish OS, you can add multi-rom capability and boot into Firefox OS... PLUS... a rumor has recently reached my ears that soon you will be able to port Open webOS to the N4...
What other phone is going to give you that many options? I say, Nexus 4, FTW baby!!! :highfive:
I haven`t seen any dev support for the mini model...Will we ever get a bootloader unlock or even just root?
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I haven`t seen any dev support for the mini model...Will we ever get a bootloader unlock or even just root?
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No, different SOC and kernel, the Axon 7 and Axon 7 Mini only share a name, otherwise they are completely different devices.
Patience, if it sells well enough and after ZTE releases the kernel source code we will see some activity... how much will vary on how well it sells, but when it's on sale for $199 it's a serious bargain and hopefully some devs will snag it up and bring some basic root/roms to the device.
With off-brand and low volume devices this will likely become less and less common though, with Marshmallow and newer OS's root and romming is being much more difficult. Even chainfire (primary developer of SuperSU) has said rooting stock devices probably won't even be an option within 2 to 3 years, and that the reality is Google could shut down all known rooting methods if they wanted too (which, luckily that doesn't seem to be a priority for them, or even on their radar at the moment).
id say no and it doesn't look like there will be much if any development at all on the mini. id just buy the regular axon 7.
Please suggest a way to make our device get the Project Treble officially.
More details on Google Project Treble,
Thanks.
This can only be accomplished by the manufacturer of the phone (Oneplus) in corporation with the SoC manufacturer (Qualcomm). But we can always say pleeease with a big nice smile in the Oneplus forum and hope for the best. ?
pitrus- said:
This can only be accomplished by the manufacturer of the phone (Oneplus) in corporation with the SoC manufacturer (Qualcomm). But we can always say pleeease with a big nice smile in the Oneplus forum and hope for the best.
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As per the official OnePlus forums from I visited, I have read them saying "Treble is interesting, we will keep close an eye on it.."
Which is like killing me all the time...
Could someone from XDA OnePlus team reach out to OnePlus official and represent our request???
Project Treble would be expensive and difficult to implement. Given what OnePlus did with the OP2, it's clear where this is going.
The OP3/3T hardware will be likely be completely abandoned by next Summer. One year, folks.
Of course, Google poorly designed Android from the start and created this problem. Hardware abstraction and support for official AOSP should have been baked in from the start--or (at least) implemented before Gingerbread.
I don't use the physical buttons on this device. There's not much to wear out. This next upgrade will be forced by software. I don't give a darn about benchmarks, games, or huge pdf's; hardware isn't compelling anymore. I am going to wait and see about x86 on ARM. Even with limited performance, it would be nice to carry one device and just plug into the hotel television hdmi. Also, the updates would flow for a solid five years--longer than I would use a new device (as it should be).
There will be some broken buggy ROMS floating around for a while after next summer, but those are for kids.
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Project Treble would be expensive and difficult to implement. Given what OnePlus did with the OP2, it's clear where this is going.
The OP3/3T hardware will be likely be completely abandoned by next Summer. One year, folks.
Of course, Google poorly designed Android from the start and created this problem. Hardware abstraction and support for official AOSP should have been baked in from the start--or (at least) implemented before Gingerbread.
I don't use the physical buttons on this device. There's not much to wear out. This next upgrade will be forced by software. I don't give a darn about benchmarks, games, or huge pdf's; hardware isn't compelling anymore. I am going to wait and see about x86 on ARM. Even with limited performance, it would be nice to carry one device and just plug into the hotel television hdmi. Also, the updates would flow for a solid five years--longer than I would use a new device (as it should be).
There will be some broken buggy ROMS floating around for a while after next summer, but those are for kids.
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Dint quiet get you there mate...
you mean Treble is not a good move?
orange808 said:
Project Treble would be expensive and difficult to implement. Given what OnePlus did with the OP2, it's clear where this is going.
The OP3/3T hardware will be likely be completely abandoned by next Summer. One year, folks.
Of course, Google poorly designed Android from the start and created this problem. Hardware abstraction and support for official AOSP should have been baked in from the start--or (at least) implemented before Gingerbread.
I don't use the physical buttons on this device. There's not much to wear out. This next upgrade will be forced by software. I don't give a darn about benchmarks, games, or huge pdf's; hardware isn't compelling anymore. I am going to wait and see about x86 on ARM. Even with limited performance, it would be nice to carry one device and just plug into the hotel television hdmi. Also, the updates would flow for a solid five years--longer than I would use a new device (as it should be).
There will be some broken buggy ROMS floating around for a while after next summer, but those are for kids.
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Incoherent, confused, and totally off the point, what after next year there is no Android update, would that kill the phone, I still have wildfire s, it's on ginger bread, it runs youtube, Facebook and what's app, this phone will be usable till it is not broken
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dante_67 said:
Incoherent, confused, and totally off the point, what after next year there is no Android update, would that kill the phone, I still have wildfire s, it's on ginger bread, it runs youtube, Facebook and what's app, this phone will be usable till it is not broken
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I like turtles.
Is it possible for devs to port the kernel to 4.4+ once OP release sources for Oreo?
Well, given that OEM support for our device will end by mid next year, Project Treble implementation is not really worthwhile for our devices. It won't be useful to OnePlus for long (for the 3/T), and also it'll be quite expensive to be worked on.
But if OnePlus decides to pull an OPO, and grant us our wishes, we'd all be happy.
It has almost nothing to do with Oneplus, if Qualcomm update the reference msm8996 kernel to linux 4.4 then its trivial to port oneplus modifications over.
Qualcomm has practically zero motivation to do this, infact it works against their interests.
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Project Treble would be expensive and difficult to implement. Given what OnePlus did with the OP2, it's clear where this is going.
The OP3/3T hardware will be likely be completely abandoned by next Summer. One year, folks.
Of course, Google poorly designed Android from the start and created this problem. Hardware abstraction and support for official AOSP should have been baked in from the start--or (at least) implemented before Gingerbread.
I don't use the physical buttons on this device. There's not much to wear out. This next upgrade will be forced by software. I don't give a darn about benchmarks, games, or huge pdf's; hardware isn't compelling anymore. I am going to wait and see about x86 on ARM. Even with limited performance, it would be nice to carry one device and just plug into the hotel television hdmi. Also, the updates would flow for a solid five years--longer than I would use a new device (as it should be).
There will be some broken buggy ROMS floating around for a while after next summer, but those are for kids.
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x86 or ARM? Jesus, that's some pretty old CPU architecture right there. Care to elaborate as to why you want it to go further?
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x86 or ARM? Jesus, that's some pretty old CPU architecture right there. Care to elaborate as to why you want it to go further?
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I like turtles.
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I like turtles.
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Makes sense. Thanks for your informative explanation xD
OnePlus 3, 3T, 5, and 5T are all missing out on Project Treble, but will be updated to Android 8.1.
I'd rather have Treble.
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OnePlus 3, 3T, 5, and 5T are all missing out on Project Treble, but will be updated to Android 8.1.
I'd rather have Treble.
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And if OnePlus had release Project Treble but not Android 8.1, you would have also complained.
Stop complain about everything you don't have, and enjoy what you have: should I remind you that Android 8.0 should have been the last update for the OnePlus 3(T)? Plus, Project Treble targets all devices launched with Android 8.x, which is not the case for actual OnePlus phones.
Not only "OnePlus" doesn't give project treble,
Stop complaint about "Project Treble"
there is a petition going to support Project Treble for OnePlus devices
feel free to sign the petition and make a difference
We (the community) would like to ask Oneplus to support Project Treble in OOS
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And if OnePlus had release Project Treble but not Android 8.1, you would have also complained.
Stop complain about everything you don't have, and enjoy what you have: should I remind you that Android 8.0 should have been the last update for the OnePlus 3(T)? Plus, Project Treble targets all devices launched with Android 8.x, which is not the case for actual OnePlus phones.
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Project Treble is compulsory for devices launching with Oreo, but can be enabled when a device is updated (see OG Pixel/XL and Essential Phone), so OnePlus can do it if they want to.
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It has almost nothing to do with Oneplus, if Qualcomm update the reference msm8996 kernel to linux 4.4 then its trivial to port oneplus modifications over.
Qualcomm has practically zero motivation to do this, infact it works against their interests.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, just guessing here, but isn't the Google Pixel 1 getting treble? It has the same SOC, so getting the required kernel references shouldn't be a problem right?
EDIT: This is ofcourse only applicable to the 3T, so they'd have to split the OTA's from the OP3. Highly doubt that they'd do that though.