Is there a FAQ somewhere that comprehensively covers most of what's involved as a part of rooting the Nexus 7? Or rooting any Android device that would cover the N7? I do dev, but am new to Android.
I'm not even referring to the actual rooting process. Info for that's all over the net. My questions are more along the lines of things like:
What exactly does it mean when people say that rooting will erase the drive? Somehow, I think that's probably exaggerated. Does it really all but reformat? Does it leave the OS intact, other than unlocking and rooting and just wipe out the apps I've installed and my settings and data? Or whatever happens.
Do I have to literally reinstall all my apps from Play or wherever? Or can I copy to a computer and just copy it back again after rooting?
If the rooting process deletes all my apps, this has no effect on what Play lists as "My Android Apps," does it?
Given these questions, what's the state of the device right after I finish rooting? Is it display sort of what it was out of the box?
If I need warranty service and unroot, would Google know at a glance that it had ever been rooted? What restores it to its original state? Doesn't unrooting just remove root access and lock the device?
I'm not here to ask about this ROM or that, but why use another ROM? Would that completely replace Jelly Bean? If it does, how to I get back to Jelly Bean?
Does the Nexus Root Toolkit work on Windows XP? (I have that and a Mac. I’m running the Win 8 preview in a Virtual Box VM, but getting it to consistently recognize the N7 has been problematic. On the Mac, the Android file manager tends to drift in and out. It's possible that I have issues with my N7 USB port.)
I realize there are all noob questions, but that's where I am. I'm sure I could come up with plenty more and I'm sure plenty of others have and have had similar questions. But most of the answers I'm finding don't address nuances, they're just black and white, sweeping terms that don't really get where I'm looking to go.
I'd appreciate answers to these questions or pointers to good places to find out without having to wade through dozens of topics hoping to find some piece of what I want to know.
I might be able to answer some of your questions, give me a pm and I would love to answer them (it would be hard to put them all in a post)
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I posted this a while back. It should be a pretty good hub of information.
Hope that helps! If you have any other questions that this doesn't answer - either ask here or check google. Just make sure you read everything you possibly can - the more knowledge the better.
Lots of stuff there. Thanks. I'll take a good look.
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I posted this a while back. It should be a pretty good hub of information.
Hope that helps! If you have any other questions that this doesn't answer - either ask here or check google. Just make sure you read everything you possibly can - the more knowledge the better.
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I might be able to answer some of your questions, give me a pm and I would love to answer them (it would be hard to put them all in a post)
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PM sent, though my outbox doesn't show it. Anything you can share, Stevenator21, would be greatly appreciated.
I know everyone is eager to set up their KF HDX how they want it & many of you are new-ish to XDA, so you have been able to rely on tools to automate everything, making it easier to accomplish what you want, but not so great for learning the basics of Android & the core development & debugging tools that are used in the automated processes like the various toolkits you find throughout the forum threads.
At any rate, I am writing a warning about this device ONCE AGAIN. If you really have no idea what the sdk is or how it is used, the HDX is not something you want to start messing with. You know who you are. If you aren't running Linux, or at the very least a dual boot distro like Unbuntu via wubi & you have never installed or used the Android SDK, PLEASE think twice about whatever you are contemplating.
The Kindle Fire HDX is not like other device you have maybe played with, or owned. It is a low level development device that uses an oddball system for updating & while it is vulnerable to several exploits, the bootloader is 100% locked. Complicating this issue is the fact that the device does not have fastboot access & messing with certain system files or permissions CAN & WILL cause issues ranging from wifi & 4G connectivity to a full on hard brick. There are also checks in place that will prevent adb access if you remove or mess up certain binaries or drivers. Some of these things CAN & WILL lead to loss of ADB access. Without ADB access, anything you break CANNOT be fixed.
This is NOT the device to get your feet wet on when it comes to rooting or modding. In the last two days alone, I have had 8 requests from people with devices that are having issue because of something that was done inadvertently or because something was done in the wrong order. I am willing to help WHEN I CAN, but I am an engineer, not a developer, with a busy schedule & a family, so taking care of my responsibilities comes before anything XDA related, for myself, or anyone else.
If you decide to ignore all of the posts about people bricking their devices & you ignore this warning, the SECOND SUCH WARNING, well, fine. After all it's your device & you can do whatever you want to it. Just don't expect to find an easy fix or someone there 24/7 to hold your hand through the process of trying to recover it. After all, this is a development forum, where you are expected to have a certain degree of knowledge, or be in the process of gaining that knowledge & it's not something you are going to learn by osmosis or be able to cram into a panicked couple of hours because you messed up your device.
So, you have been warned. Again. Unless you want a $300 - $700 project you may never finish, read BEFORE you do. Learn about what you are trying to accomplish & just deal with the Amazon only device until you can understand at the very minimum how to use adb & know how to apply all of the various adb commands. The absolute worst time to try to learn anything is when you are panicked & grasping at straws.
Don't be this guy:
I think that http://towelroot.com/ is a good place to start as the apk can be side loaded and should provide root access. I still have root on my Kindle Fire HDX 7" so I dont have any need for this root method, but according to the CVE-2014-3153 most versions of android are affected including 4.2.2. I would say if your a noob and not comfortable with adb and command line then this is your best bet for gaining root. Once you do have root I would suggest installing a firewall app and block everything except the apps you want to have access to the internet this should stop any updates from hitting your device. Have Fun!!
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I think that http://towelroot.com/ is a good place to start as the apk can be side loaded and should provide root access. I still have root on my Kindle Fire HDX 7" so I dont have any need for this root method, but according to the CVE-2014-3153 most versions of android are affected including 4.2.2. I would say if your a noob and not comfortable with adb and command line then this is your best bet for gaining root. Once you do have root I would suggest installing a firewall app and block everything except the apps you want to have access to the internet this should stop any updates from hitting your device. Have Fun!!
CDub50
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Not helping. Yes, anyone can root there device by installing an apk & clicking a few buttons. The ISSUE is what they do AFTER they root, because now they have access to do things like overwrite graphical drivers with ones that are 4 years old, erase directories from the system partition or just completely WIPE the system partition. These are three examples of things that people have done in the last 24 hours with root. I'd go thru the other 5 from PM's but frankly I don't remember the exact issues, most were some form of the previously mentioned mistakes. But hey, since you are telling people that "aren't comfortable with adb..." they should root, I'll start a brick master thread for you to take care of. :good:
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not helping. Yes, anyone can root there device by installing an apk & clicking a few buttons. The issue is what they do after they root, because now they have access to do things like overwrite graphical drivers with ones that are 4 years old, erase directories from the system partition or just completely wipe the system partition. These are three examples of things that people have done in the last 24 hours with root. I'd go thru the other 5 from pm's but frankly i don't remember the exact issues, most were some form of the previously mentioned mistakes. But hey, since you are telling people that "aren't comfortable with adb..." they should root, i'll start a brick master thread for you to take care of. :good:
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well said and repeated!
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Not helping. Yes, anyone can root there device by installing an apk & clicking a few buttons. The ISSUE is what they do AFTER they root, because now they have access to do things like overwrite graphical drivers with ones that are 4 years old, erase directories from the system partition or just completely WIPE the system partition. These are three examples of things that people have done in the last 24 hours with root. I'd go thru the other 5 from PM's but frankly I don't remember the exact issues, most were some form of the previously mentioned mistakes. But hey, since you are telling people that "aren't comfortable with adb..." they should root, I'll start a brick master thread for you to take care of. :good:
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Come on though, this XDA forums, isn't it? Anyone reading these threads should be well aware of the risks involved. With towelroot app rooting the device is simple, and not going to brick your tab. Being reckless and doing some of the other things you mention, well, sorry, but like Clint Eastwood says in Magnum Force, "A man's got to know his limitations".
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Lol. When the vroot method was posted a couple days ago the hdx forum was quite silent...
Then BOOM!
"OMG I BROKED MY TABLET! BRICKED HDX! *BLAH BLAH* BROKE MY TABLET! HELP!!!! HELP!!! BRICKED TAB! "
good warning for noobs.
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I used the towelroot, then used a ota update blocking script and kindlefree, that's it. I bet people are out there installing safestrap, Roms and whatnot.
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Not helping. Yes, anyone can root there device by installing an apk & clicking a few buttons. The ISSUE is what they do AFTER they root, because now they have access to do things like overwrite graphical drivers with ones that are 4 years old, erase directories from the system partition or just completely WIPE the system partition. These are three examples of things that people have done in the last 24 hours with root. I'd go thru the other 5 from PM's but frankly I don't remember the exact issues, most were some form of the previously mentioned mistakes. But hey, since you are telling people that "aren't comfortable with adb..." they should root, I'll start a brick master thread for you to take care of. :good:
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To think that everyone who roots their Kindle is going Brick their device is laughable. Most people want to root to install google play store and stop future updates. There are always going to be people that are going to brick their device by pulling a bone head move. People know the risk, but if you can make rooting less risky by just installing an .apk sounds like a no brainer to me.
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Please people root phones all of the time and I would say 99% of people dont run into any issues with having root.
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To think that everyone who roots their Kindle is going Brick their device is laughable. Most people want to root to install google play store and stop future updates. There are always going to be people that are going to brick their device by pulling a bone head move. People know the risk, but if you can make rooting less risky by just installing an .apk sounds like a no brainer to me.
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Please people root phones all of the time and I would say 99% of people dont run into any issues with having root.
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You just sighned up for brick duty... Where was your energy and sarcasm Friday when Chinese root hit the forum? But yea thx and for chiming in though.
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You just sighned up for brick duty... Where was your energy and sarcasm Friday when Chinese root hit the forum? But yea thx and for chiming in though.
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Wow. Suggesting people use a simple apk to root their device earns you "brick duty"? And talk about sarcasm, your last sentence is a good example.
What's the point of XDA if we're afraid to do anything to our devices?
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Wow. Suggesting people use a simple apk to root their device earns you "brick duty"? And talk about sarcasm, your last sentence is a good example.
What's the point of XDA if we're afraid to do anything to our devices?
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I don't want anybody to be afraid but I expect them to do their own homework and when they cut their sh*t up not come on here acting like a rotten punk and not willing to do any work to help themselves out.... Which is exactly what a 1-Click Apk breeds.., It tells them yay they were good enough to root device.. And they just dive into making other modifications especially on a device that has no fastboot capabilities and a locked bootloader I just don't think they should make anything that easy for a unit that is this hard to recover.. Because obviously you're not going to be here to help the ones that were ignorant enough to get an application to root device but not educated enough to accomplish any other modifications without bricking their units and then come back here implying that it's anybody else's responsibility but their own.... I'm sorry but most the ones here Bricked right right now can't even run batch application without asking how to double-click thre times ... Much less run ADB commands so stick around and help please... if this device had fastboot or unlocked bootloader. I personally would not give a damn
Well, towelroot was made for a variety of devices and just happens to work with the hdx. So are we supposed to pretend it doesn't work just because some people are not able to know what they can and can't do?
Another movie quote :
Forrest Gump "Stupid is as stupid does".
Don't be stupid with your expensive tablet, if you are it's your own damn fault.
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Lol. When the vroot method was posted a couple days ago the hdx forum was quite silent...
Then BOOM!
"OMG I BROKED MY TABLET! BRICKED HDX! *BLAH BLAH* BROKE MY TABLET! HELP!!!! HELP!!! BRICKED TAB! "
good warning for noobs.
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I made my toolkit to help people avoid bricking issues by waiting for proven methods that work and that I tested. I made it a menu and not a stooped down click and auto run installer. I wanted to give people the choice what they wanted to install, without risk bricking.
I guess people go outside the box for the "easy fix" to a complex problem. People and jobs are like that, doing some half assed thing to keep the wheels turning. I'm just blabbing now.
Be safe when messin' with the hdx. I play with stuff while on a rom slot to avoid a stock rom brick.
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Come on though, this XDA forums, isn't it? Anyone reading these threads should be well aware of the risks involved. With towelroot app rooting the device is simple, and not going to brick your tab. Being reckless and doing some of the other things you mention, well, sorry, but like Clint Eastwood says in Magnum Force, "A man's got to know his limitations".
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Obviously "anybody reading blah blah blah", isn't the case, as evident by the brick posts & my PM inbox. Sure, this is xda, but it's not the XDA it used to be. Part of that is because of the ease with which one can obtain root. You used to have to do everything manually, so you actually had to read, sometimes info for a completely different device, and then spend time figuring out how to apply it to your particular device. I am not saying nobody should root, frankly I do not care either way. What I am saying is that it is probably a bad idea for some people. Seriously, you think the guy that had no idea what Linux was, or the guy that thought you double click on the adb.exe to make it magically unbrick a device are good candidates for having unrestricted world writable access to a device? No. All you have to do is read some of the posts to know it isn't a good idea for some ill-prepared people & they obviously DIDN'T understand the consequences, otherwise they wouldn't have tried doing things that even the newest well informed member would ever try doing.
At any rate, this is what I think of now whenever I think of XDA, particularly the HDX forums lately. LMAO....
Say what?
Do any of you have anything useful to add besides your nanny pandering bull****? It's funny when you start digging for info on rooting a Kindle Fire HDX and this one of the first things you run across, a bunch of nannies moaning about it being too easy? Don't do it because you might break your toy because you are an idiot? Seriously? Is this a day care or am I missing something?
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Obviously "anybody reading blah blah blah", isn't the case, as evident by the brick posts & my PM inbox. Sure, this is xda, but it's not the XDA it used to be. Part of that is because of the ease with which one can obtain root. You used to have to do everything manually, so you actually had to read, sometimes info for a completely different device, and then spend time figuring out how to apply it to your particular device. I am not saying nobody should root, frankly I do not care either way. What I am saying is that it is probably a bad idea for some people. Seriously, you think the guy that had no idea what Linux was, or the guy that thought you double click on the adb.exe to make it magically unbrick a device are good candidates for having unrestricted world writable access to a device? No. All you have to do is read some of the posts to know it isn't a good idea for some ill-prepared people & they obviously DIDN'T understand the consequences, otherwise they wouldn't have tried doing things that even the newest well informed member would ever try doing.
At any rate, this is what I think of now whenever I think of XDA, particularly the HDX forums lately. LMAO....
Having Root does not cause any issues. People create the issues, but who are you tell tell everyone not to root. Its their device if they want to root by all means root it. EVERY ROM and RECOVERY I have ever flashed or created states that in the terms of use that there is a potential they could brick their device. Who cares about your PM's. If you dont want to help them dont help, but dont create a thread just to complain about people bricking their device.
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Thanks....but....
I'm not a developer....nor a hacker....nor a ...whatever.....just someone who enjoys reading and learning all that I can about my phone and Kindle Fire HDX....have rooted a variety of phones and Kindles through the years - first "mod" was to be able to download music and my own ringtones to a first edition Razr back in the day. I know there are so many people smarter than me - in some areas...not all - and I gratefully use that info and knowledge I get AT MY OWN RISK....as most people do, I think....the XDA site has over 5 million members - will there be some idiots who don't read or throw common sense and caution to the wind and screw up their devices?...sure....shame on them.
But if others with that knowledge have an elitist attitude about the rest of us - well - shame on them too. If someone knows how to make it easy for someone to be able to get the most of their device - while knowing the risks - BUT WON'T SHARE because they feel we don't 'deserve" that info - please....don't post! Just keep it to yourself and enjoy the fruits of your own labors.
PS...think it's a bit of a coincidence that when the romaster root surfaced - from a Chinese developer - all he** broke loose....it seems others had the knowledge but didn't want to share....oh well.....and please...this is just my humble opinion.
I appreciate all the efforts of the developers and testers who make it easier for people like me to really get the most out of their devices - but I think there is a reason that most of the major companies lock down theirs....to stop the ones who will stupidly brick the device and blame the company....thanks for reading.
I have
revircs said:
I'm not a developer....nor a hacker....nor a ...whatever.....just someone who enjoys reading and learning all that I can about my phone and Kindle Fire HDX....have rooted a variety of phones and Kindles through the years - first "mod" was to be able to download music and my own ringtones to a first edition Razr back in the day. I know there are so many people smarter than me - in some areas...not all - and I gratefully use that info and knowledge I get AT MY OWN RISK....as most people do, I think....the XDA site has over 5 million members - will there be some idiots who don't read or throw common sense and caution to the wind and screw up their devices?...sure....shame on them.
But if others with that knowledge have an elitist attitude about the rest of us - well - shame on them too. If someone knows how to make it easy for someone to be able to get the most of their device - while knowing the risks - BUT WON'T SHARE because they feel we don't 'deserve" that info - please....don't post! Just keep it to yourself and enjoy the fruits of your own labors.
PS...think it's a bit of a coincidence that when the romaster root surfaced - from a Chinese developer - all he** broke loose....it seems others had the knowledge but didn't want to share....oh well.....and please...this is just my humble opinion.
I appreciate all the efforts of the developers and testers who make it easier for people like me to really get the most out of their devices - but I think there is a reason that most of the major companies lock down theirs....to stop the ones who will stupidly brick the device and blame the company....thanks for reading.
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LOL I have noticed everybody that has chimed in about any complaints going on here have not been here to help recover in any of these devices last few days .. Trying to help people that refuse to help themselves.... I mean really we can only feed them so much info and babysit so much and get told please help please hello please help me . And when you attempt too. they have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about or what you're trying to get them to do it just looks too complicated so they keep asking for help... Expecting somebody here to make an easy one click.. To salvage their mistakes and keep their mommy and daddy from finding out they bricked their tablets.....and btw if this device wasnt soo fn locked down.. We would not be having this discussion because recovery of a brick would be easy with fastboot capabilities and unlock bootloader click click done. So I call BS honestly over the last few years out of all these devices I've been here in xda tinkering with.. The only time see false warranty claims are always on devices that are locked up tight.
If they refuse to help themselves then don't help them. Claiming that something shouldn't be easy and the fear mongering and elitism aren't helping anyone. Instead of trying to be a nanny document the known problems and work arounds if there are any. If you don't want to do that then don't. Save the other BS for your significant other cause no one else worth concerning yourself with wants to hear it. This thread is pointless, people here want to root their devices for any number of reasons; they why's don't matter and if it goes south it's not your problem.
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If they refuse to help themselves then don't help them. Claiming that something shouldn't be easy and the fear mongering and elitism aren't helping anyone. Instead of trying to be a nanny document the known problems and work arounds if there are any. If you don't want to do that then don't. Save the other BS for your significant other cause no one else worth concerning yourself with wants to hear it. This thread is pointless, people here want to root their devices for any number of reasons; they why's don't matter and if it goes south it's not your problem.
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I understand your point and this thread was not started as a wine fest it was supposed to be started for a fair warning I can't help it if he had a sarcastic tone to his voice from trying to help ignorant people all weekend and I think it's hilarious how people are chiming in complaining about our complaints but none of them have been here to help all the ignorant folk ... I'm just saying as one that has been here for the last five days repairing brick or trying to help that is ... Is a lot of and uneeded tension here I understand .. And it is turning" quite the Flamer thread ... So instead of chiming here to complain about our complaint and tell us to keep our complaints to ourselves as you are here complaining your self .. Please go to the general section or the troubleshooting section and start helping people... For example help him http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783591
So, I've taken my first foray into development by rooting my phone. I'm looking to extend it's capabilities and learn as I go. I have no real knowledge except outside rooting and partitioning my SD card. Any other beginners who care to go down this path with me and share experiences?
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So, I've taken my first foray into development by rooting my phone. I'm looking to extend it's capabilities and learn as I go. I have no real knowledge except outside rooting and partitioning my SD card. Any other beginners who care to go down this path with me and share experiences?
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Its all in what you want with root. There are many benefits to having it. I use titanium backup, supersu, SD maid, root Explorer all being root apps for various reasons. It's all about how customized you want it to be
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Its all in what you want with root. There are many benefits to having it. I use titanium backup, supersu, SD maid, root Explorer all being root apps for various reasons. It's all about how customized you want it to be
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For me, I'm looking for more anonymity with Orbot/Tor, appearance/launcher tweaking, more storage space (sd card partitioning, etc)/memory & ram. Im also looking to learn terminology and more about programming/development as I go along. Thank you!
XDA has a great community of people willing to help you with your journey. Feel free to use the SEARCH feature in the forums to help guide you in the right direction. Good luck. Also be sure to check out my page on hijacking and security management apps.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/off-topic-list-hijacking-security-apps-t3224758
I love what rooting adds to owning a smart device. If I were to find the time, I would love to develop my own roms even if it was just for personal use. The development is an art in itself that adds so much customization to your device. I honestly admire those that work hard to make their own changes come to light.
AmericanxDownxUnder said:
So, I've taken my first foray into development by rooting my phone. I'm looking to extend it's capabilities and learn as I go. I have no real knowledge except outside rooting and partitioning my SD card. Any other beginners who care to go down this path with me and share experiences?
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Cool:good: I also want to try to root my phone. But I am afraid my phone would be dead after rooting:crying:
Taylor white 0911 said:
Cool:good: I also want to try to root my phone. But I am afraid my phone would be dead after rooting:crying:
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Not necessarily. I've now rooted 4 devices of my own without any issues. It's all about following instructions
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Cool:good: I also want to try to root my phone. But I am afraid my phone would be dead after rooting:crying:
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One of the best things to do before starting on rooting is read guides, do research and always follow the instructions for each root. The more you know, the less you are likely to make any mistakes. Never rush it.
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One of the best things to do before starting on rooting is read guides, do research and always follow the instructions for each root. The more you know, the less you are likely to make any mistakes. Never rush it.
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Thanks! I also do some researches this time. I will try to root when I have sufficient confidence.
I am wanting to gain as much info as possible on rooting and development too. I remember when I rooted my lg optimus elite, It felt like such an achievement for me. I am always reading up on various forums trying to learn as much as i can.
Hey all, I've spent a couple hours sifting through these pages to find an answer I cannot see. Or, I'm not reading correctly.
I am currently running Jasmine Rom on my rooted/unlocked OF1 Note 3. After several months of everything working fine but slow here and there, I would like to try one of two things. If anyone has some insight (Google certainly doesn't ) that may or may not help me, I'd very much appreciate you...
1- Is unrooting as lollipo to update to marshmallow a good or bad idea? Why?
2- If good, could you point me to a page that I don't have to read 700 posts to find clear instructions to do so?
3- If bad, I will stick with what I have...BUT, I'd really like to get rid of the bloatware (permanently, if possible). Is this possible? NOTE: I've sifted through countless pages of safe to remove bloat, so I'm asking if there's a way to do this upon fresh rom installation?
4- I love this place. I've rooted many a phone with all of your help. I must say that this note 3 vzw section is a WRECK. How can non-devs possibly sort through all this to find working answers? I'm legit asking, not being a smartass...there's active threads from 1983, and how's a regular Joe who wants to play with his toys too supposed to make sense of the endless this-one-works no-it-doesn't mess?
I'm sincerely seeking some final, working answers to the above questions, any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
There is no "update to marshmallow" AFAIK.
OF1 is Lolipop.
XDA has zero threshold to entry, so the postings here are from both geniuses and idiots. You get to sort through them.
Postings are made while the phones are in play - which is to say while stock firmware is changing constantly, and devs and hackers are making changes, revising their stuff and learning new tricks.
So in addition to info which is correct - and stays correct, there is also information that becomes incorrect with new software... or never was correct in the first place.
So yeah, XDA is a mess. But you are missing the point - that it's a hot mess.
Your expectation of perfectly curated data, 100% correct and up-to-date instructions that minimize your time (at the expense of others, naturally) is unreasonable for this simple reason: it doesn't exist anywhere else.
So... step up or step out.
All this stuff is optional behavior. If you don't have time for it, well... then you don't have time for it.
If you want to try marshmallow on your device flash this rom using TWRP : [ROM][CM13][6.0.1_r43][VZW][OTA-Updates] Temasek's UNOFFICIAL.
I'm using version V10.8 on my unlocked OF1 Note 3 and everything works, here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...opment/rom-temaseks-unofficial-build-t3364382
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There is no "update to marshmallow" AFAIK.
OF1 is Lolipop.
XDA has zero threshold to entry, so the postings here are from both geniuses and idiots. You get to sort through them.
Postings are made while the phones are in play - which is to say while stock firmware is changing constantly, and devs and hackers are making changes, revising their stuff and learning new tricks.
So in addition to info which is correct - and stays correct, there is also information that becomes incorrect with new software... or never was correct in the first place.
So yeah, XDA is a mess. But you are missing the point - that it's a hot mess.
Your expectation of perfectly curated data, 100% correct and up-to-date instructions that minimize your time (at the expense of others, naturally) is unreasonable for this simple reason: it doesn't exist anywhere else.
So... step up or step out.
All this stuff is optional behavior. If you don't have time for it, well... then you don't have time for it.
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Thank you for the reply. I must say, though, there's a clear difference between everything being perfectly organized to my taste and organized for the everyman who doesn't have all day to sort through everything in the forum on a particular phone. Im not demanding anything, nor am I accusing anyone of laziness or ignorance. There's wasn't anything implying anyone should do anything. Rather, a question was posed to understand the processes. I get the point of this forum, and more to the point, I APPRECIATE this forum. But I will say that at some point clean up might be a good idea. That's an opinion, not a demand. It is silly to me how unkempt this PARTICULAR part of XDA is.
That said, I will continue to use it happily, messy, hot, or otherwise, and I appreciate everyone's work on these devices for the everyman to experience the full range of possibilities with our devices.
Thanks for the answers.
aaroon200 said:
If you want to try marshmallow on your device flash this rom using TWRP : [ROM][CM13][6.0.1_r43][VZW][OTA-Updates] Temasek's UNOFFICIAL.
I'm using version V10.8 on my unlocked OF1 Note 3 and everything works, here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...opment/rom-temaseks-unofficial-build-t3364382
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Awesome, I will check out it.
Forgive my tone on my original post, XDA. I believe I came across as *****y, and I didn't mean any offense.
Hi all,
I've had a 6P for a year...despite some frustrations it's a reliable phone and I had no intentions to move off of it this year because there arent any phones on Verizon which interest me right now.
Anyway, I'm a bit of an audio snob and have been super frustrated about lack of AptX support in this phone. Seems that's no longer the case (?) with Oreo and I am desperate to get it working. I've installed 8.1 OTA, that's it.
Can someone here help me learn how to do this in the easiest, most painless way possible? Does some basic research on TWRP, magisk, etc...but it's all rather foreign to me still. I do have some basic knowledge with rooting...early Androids when I was younger, but for the last 5 years stopped paying attention as I found stock to more than suit my needs. So I'm basically starting from zero.
If there's any scenario that doesn't force me to reset my device, and also will allow me to still accept OTA updates, that'd be amazing. I'd rather not sacrifice security and ease of use.
Thank you so much in advance. Super pumped to join this community.
Dogsontreadmills said:
Hi all,
Thank you so much in advance. Super pumped to join this community.
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You might need to do more then you want but here is a thread of people discussing it working.
Exodusche said:
You might need to do more then you want but here is a thread of people discussing it working.
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I saw that thread, thanks! It doesn't really have a blow by blow process for beginners though. Is my question best suited for that thread?