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Root/hotspot - hear me out

I'm headed out of town for a work conference, and I am taking my Epic and Xoom wi-fi with me. I've got a completely stock EC05 build that I would like to use as a wi-fi hotspot for my Xoom while I am out/about.
What do people recommend as the best method to root my phone and leave it as untouched as possible (IE reversible so that 2.3 OTA update can be had when it comes out)? I would really like to NOT have to totally flash/wipe my phone to achieve this, but admittedly I haven't gotten too far in researching because every method I've seen involves wiping the phone and installing some custom rom from scratch when I'm perfectly happy with the base/pre-fab interface from Sprint.
IS there even a way to get root without losing the existing data on my phone?

Odin cwm 3.1.0.1, and flash the genocide kernel. Yes, when you update you will lose root, but everything else should be intact (data/apps/contact)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076967

ugothakd said:
Odin cwm 3.1.0.1, and flash the genocide kernel. Yes, when you update you will lose root, but everything else should be intact (data/apps/contact)
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It's not that simple. He's going to have to odin to get GB. How will he save all his **** in a restorable fashion? Once he loses root he loses access to his data.

The Root said:
It's not that simple. He's going to have to odin to get GB. How will he save all his **** in a restorable fashion? Once he loses root he loses access to his data.
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He's not flashing gingerbread. He wants to stay on froyo. For easy root u could use odin to flash clockwork mod 3.1.0.1 and then flash the su.zip in recovery. Or you could run the one click root with clockwork mod 3.1.0.1. A third option if u just want root with no custom recovery u could try an app called gingerbreak. That will give u root without a custom recovery. All 3 of these will not wipe your phone.
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons

Ok cool. Just didn't want him to end up in a bind. Lots of ways to gets stuck. It's not foolproof and you may end up having to wipe in the end. I say root and stick with it.

musclehead84 said:
He's not flashing gingerbread. He wants to stay on froyo. For easy root u could use odin to flash clockwork mod 3.1.0.1 and then flash the su.zip in recovery. Or you could run the one click root with clockwork mod 3.1.0.1. A third option if u just want root with no custom recovery u could try an app called gingerbreak. That will give u root without a custom recovery. All 3 of these will not wipe your phone.
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons
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Excellent, thank you for the information :]

The Root said:
It's not that simple. He's going to have to odin to get GB. How will he save all his **** in a restorable fashion? Once he loses root he loses access to his data.
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He's talking about the ota gingerbread that's not here yet...
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Hmm... I just downloaded the file http://devphone.org/files/epic4g/oneclickroot/OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip and had MSSE flag it as dangerous:
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Category: Exploit
Description: This program is dangerous and exploits the computer on which it is run.
Recommended action: Remove this software immediately.
Security Essentials detected programs that may compromise your privacy or damage your computer. You can still access the files that these programs use without removing them (not recommended). To access these files, select the Allow action and click Apply actions. If this option is not available, log on as administrator or ask the security administrator for help.
Items:
containerfile:C:\Users\Tib\Downloads\OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip
file:C:\Users\Tib\Downloads\OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip->OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05/rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin
webfile:C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\LocalCopy\{1B73367F-970B-49FC-9CA2-6ECED58D94F3}-OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip|http://devphone.org/files/epic4g/oneclickroot/OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip
webfile:C:\Users\Tib\Downloads\OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip|http://devphone.org/files/epic4g/oneclickroot/OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip
Get more information about this item online.
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Is this an expected alert for this file or is there something unpleasant going on?

tigerknight said:
Hmm... I just downloaded the file http://devphone.org/files/epic4g/oneclickroot/OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip and had MSSE flag it as dangerous:
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Category: Exploit
Description: This program is dangerous and exploits the computer on which it is run.
Recommended action: Remove this software immediately.
Security Essentials detected programs that may compromise your privacy or damage your computer. You can still access the files that these programs use without removing them (not recommended). To access these files, select the Allow action and click Apply actions. If this option is not available, log on as administrator or ask the security administrator for help.
Items:
containerfile:C:\Users\Tib\Downloads\OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip
file:C:\Users\Tib\Downloads\OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip->OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05/rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin
webfile:C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\LocalCopy\{1B73367F-970B-49FC-9CA2-6ECED58D94F3}-OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip|http://devphone.org/files/epic4g/oneclickroot/OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip
webfile:C:\Users\Tib\Downloads\OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip|http://devphone.org/files/epic4g/oneclickroot/OneClickRootCWM3.1.0.1-EC05.zip
Get more information about this item online.
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Is this an expected alert for this file or is there something unpleasant going on?
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It flags it as an exploit...cuz it is an exploit...it literally "hacks" your phone.
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ugothakd said:
It flags it as an exploit...cuz it is an exploit...it literally "hacks" your phone.
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So long as it's an expected reaction from my system, that's fine. It's the first time I've done this sort of thing to my phone, so please forgive me for being a little gun shy :]

Note that the Hacked hotspot app here requires a deodexed rom which you don't have.
You'd have to use
wifi-tether: here
wired-tether: here

Specialksg1 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076967
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This worked like a champ - got nervous at first because it just sat there staring at me and it took me a minute to read ALL the text on the screen where it says to reboot the phone and try again if it did that. Second attempt went flawless and so now I am assuming I have CWM on my phone.
Now what? CWM just enables the ability to grab root and is not root itself, correct? Should I grab a hot-spot app now (which one is recommended? the links provided by blu9987 go to a distro directory with various flavors) from the market place? Do I still need to install some root app like Super User?
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A quick market search turned up this: https://market.android.com/details?id=android.tether
The only requirements are a rooted phone and a netfilter enabled kernel - which I imagine it is.. 2.6 linux kernels usually have it as part of their default module set, but that's for desktop linux - not sure about my phone.

You can use that, or a newer beta version which you won't find on the market, or use open garden.

I am trying it out because of the large number of votes and high rating. My only issue now is that it says tethering is up and running but I can't see it.
Trying to figure out how to enable ad-hoc mode instead of infrastructure and see if that makes the difference.

Is there a non-adhoc wifi hotspot app, by chance? Looks like if I want to use ad-hoc I will have to root my xoom, too.
Trying to find methods to do that which will preserve my xoom data too but if there's an infrastructure mode hotspot app I will happily use that instead.
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Now I see what blu's link was referring to. In digging around online I came back to it and it's more clear now what it is and which to use. Here's hoping it works for my epic and not just for the EVO.

tigerknight said:
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Now I see what blu's link was referring to. In digging around online I came back to it and it's more clear now what it is and which to use. Here's hoping it works for my epic and not just for the EVO.
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If you're talking about wifi tether it should work on the epic (atleast it did on eclair). In the version 3 in settings you can select "Samsung Epic" from the device menu too.

Run the one-click which will give you root and then download wifi tether from the market
Jeez you guys are making this seem so complicated. Wtf does he need odin for? All he wants is root and hotspot. He doesn't even need a new kernel.
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Nevermind. I only read the first page lol
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For anyone who still can't receive OTAs or unlock bootloader

Since Asus seems to have fixed the issue for the c4 serial numbers but not the few of us on c3, I'm assuming we're somewhat on our own. I don't expect asus or any devs to solve this issue(fingers crossed none the less). So I started calling asus phone support on a regular basis, I explain I'm stuck on the .17 firmware and I don't receive any ota updates. This usually leads to them telling me to update manually, to which I play the dumb computer user, "I shouldn't have to do all this complicated stuff just to get regular updates" or sometimes I said I bought this tablet instead of a computer. Mind I avoided mentioning that I tried to unlock. I always mention that I know that the issue goes beyond myself and asus solved it for the c4 users. Just today they finally caved and offered to repair it. All I have to do is pay for one way shipping to the service center. I assume they will simply exchange it though I could be wrong.
tl;dr: If you can't update and you get a network error when trying to unlock, call tech support, if they don't help, politely ask for a supervisor to show you're serious.
I also want to ask for some advice, I rooted the tablet and obviously installed the unlock apk. So if I factory reset will it be noticed? I would hate to send it in for nothing.

Factory reset should get rid of all traces of root, and since the Asus factory reset erases the SD card, the unlock app will be gone, too. Just to be sure, after the reset, use the Asus file explorer, and check /system/bin and /system/xbin for a file called "su". I think factory reset erases everything, though.

EndlessDissent said:
Factory reset should get rid of all traces of root, and since the Asus factory reset erases the SD card, the unlock app will be gone, too. Just to be sure, after the reset, use the Asus file explorer, and check /system/bin and /system/xbin for a file called "su". I think factory reset erases everything, though.
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No it doesnt get rid if root it just deletes superuser which you must download again from market
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He's not trying to reroot. He wants to unroot, in which case he just needs to get rid of /system/bin/su.

Yep I know but I just mentioned that factory resets do not unroot
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If I'm rooted without superuser installed will they notice? I always thought rooting was essentially getting superuser properly installed in the root directory. But I'm certainly not the expert.

Dunno :-\
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marksman34 said:
If I'm rooted without superuser installed will they notice? I always thought rooting was essentially getting superuser properly installed in the root directory. But I'm certainly not the expert.
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If there is a someone checking the tablet they will find out. If not then they wont. I don't know if they check though so it's worth a try. but if you want to be certian you can always reflash the stock rom or unroot using the supersu app (or something like it).

marksman34 said:
If I'm rooted without superuser installed will they notice? I always thought rooting was essentially getting superuser properly installed in the root directory. But I'm certainly not the expert.
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You also need to remove the su binary from either /system/bin/su or /system/xbin/su.
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Can I hide my Root status from an app permanently?

I need help guys. I'm currently rooted running ParinoiAndroid 3.00 and Franco Kernel #82. I'm trying to download the Good for Enterprise App from the Play Store and install for my work email, but the app won't install becasue of my Root status. Is there a way to hide the root status from this app at all times. I really don't want to unroot my phone.
:fingers-crossed:

Not sure if this will work...
Go to SuperSU -> Settings.
There in Access, give default access as Deny
Then set up the whole Good for Enterprise thing
Then once the setup is done, set default access as Prompt again.

rhoadster91 said:
Not sure if this will work...
Go to SuperSU -> Settings.
There in Access, give default access as Deny
Then set up the whole Good for Enterprise thing
Then once the setup is done, set default access as Prompt again.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I gave it a try and it didn't work.
Any other ideas????

Unroot. Install. Re-root. ?
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chrisrozon said:
Unroot. Install. Re-root. ?
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I do not think unrooting 4.2.2 is wise. I heard 4.2.1 rooting techniques do not work for 4.2.2.
Gjohnson7771 said:
Any other ideas????
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Umm... nothing I can think of right now... If you have a spare device you can unroot that, install it on that device, setup your phone, root it, copy its data from /data/data and then restore it in your Nexus 4 Long shot.

rhoadster91 said:
I do not think unrooting 4.2.2 is wise. I heard 4.2.1 rooting techniques do not work for 4.2.2.
Umm... nothing I can think of right now... If you have a spare device you can unroot that, install it on that device, setup your phone, root it, copy its data from /data/data and then restore it in your Nexus 4 Long shot.
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Ok, that's not good. I guess I will need to do more research on unrooting 4.2.2.
And no this is my only device. I have a couple of old Iphones but that won't do me any good. Oh and if I was to unroot it and install the software, wouldn't the device be wiped when I re-root it and flash a custom ROM?

Gjohnson7771 said:
Oh and if I was to unroot it and install the software, wouldn't the device be wiped when I re-root it and flash a custom ROM?
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After re-rooting it, backup the data using Titanium. Then flash custom ROM and restore App + data.

rhoadster91 said:
After re-rooting it, backup the data using Titanium. Then flash custom ROM and restore App + data.
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I'm not sure if you would know this answer or not, but in an app like Good Enterprise does it normally just search for root status upon initial install or does it look for the root status periodically.
Also, I had plans to unroot using the SuperSU "Full unroot" option or even the Nexus 4 tool kit. Are either one of these methods the unroot techniques you were referring too? I really don't want to brick my device if its unwise to unroot.

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Gjohnson7771 said:
I'm not sure if you would know this answer or not, but in an app like Good Enterprise does it normally just search for root status upon initial install or does it look for the root status periodically.
Also, I had plans to unroot using the SuperSU "Full unroot" option or even the Nexus 4 tool kit. Are either one of these methods the unroot techniques you were referring too? I really don't want to brick my device if its unwise to unroot.
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I would have tried to check it myself first before suggesting you the solution (I had even downloaded the app) but turns out setting up Good Enterprise requires more than just downloading and installing it. I am not sure if it checks the root status periodically but in this case looks like the only option we have is to hope that it checks only during initiation. However, if the app is any good, I think it will check root status periodically to maintain security (because a lot of app information is compromised on a rooted phone)
Also, I do not think you will brick your phone if u attempt to root 4.2.2. Simply rebooting it in fastboot mode will give you option to revert to stock even in the worst situations. Still, cannot rule out the risk.
Anyway, a simple Google Search revealed this which could be a potential solution

Well thanks for all the info. I'll see what I can figure out.

Un rooting is quite simple , nothing to worry about!
By the way, Good permissions can be set by your administrator. They have the option to allow root, to check every time, Or to check once. It all depends on how your company configures it.
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Well, I was able to use nexus 4 toolkit to uproot and relock the boot loader. The app install fine after that and is working properly.
Thanks for the replies. For some reason I was thinking I would have to return the phone back to stock to uproot it, I'm glad I was able to keep my custom ROM and kernel. 1 more question, was re-locking the boot loader necessary or could I have kept it unlocked?

voodoo ota root keeper has a temporary unroot option, grab it from the playstore , much easier than unrooting your phone, also root survives an ota from google. You probably could have left the bootloader unlocked.

easy way ??
An easy way to hide root is renaming the superuser app/apps in the below location.
/system/app
This method did the charm for me for few apps. But the disadvantage is, it will hide root for all apps..

Workaround
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163 - thread talking about workaround for GFE

Is there a way to get the security updates and have stock rooted?

I would like to have my phone rooted but i like stock and i like having the security updates. is there a way to have my cake and eat it too?

Short answer is No.
This is my first android phone which I didn't root it and see no reason to do so.
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First and main reason for my to root, Titanium Backup.

then i guess if i was going to distill this down to what im really trying to get at is, i passionatly hate ads, they completely ruin my mobile experience and i just wanted to filter them out. is there a non-rooted way to do this?
also i like changing the hostname of my device so i can identify it on networks easily...

I rooted just so I can use Adaway. It's worth it to me.

Ovrclck said:
I rooted just so I can use Adaway. It's worth it to me.
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I had adaway installed but found it interfered with sending MMS messages.

akarol said:
First and main reason for my to root, Titanium Backup.
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I was thinking this too but apparently titanium backup can create flashable zips so in theory you can do that, flash the zip to restore apps and never need root access in the actual app.

Can you unlock bootloader, boot twrp (not flash, just fastboot boot twrp.img), create the hosts symlink with adb shell, reboot, then change the hosts source in adaway settings?

dratsablive said:
I had adaway installed but found it interfered with sending MMS messages.
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Are you sure about that? I am rooted with adaway and have no problems with mms. I don't see how adaway could possibly affect your ability to sent SMS or mms.
As far as the security updates are concerned, download the image and manually flash system, vendor, and bootloader for each update. I am on the November update as a result
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dudekiller said:
I would like to have my phone rooted but i like stock and i like having the security updates. is there a way to have my cake and eat it too?
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I remember reading that chainfire was working on a beta root method that does not modify the system partition. In this case, you may be able to unlock bootloader --> flash twrp --> flash root --> flash stock recovery and be able to accept security updates? Just a thought. My plan is to flash stock recovery once security patches are released, then reroot if necessary.
Honestly, I really didnt want to root this phone but two things changed my mind: CF Lumen and the potential to set up one handed mode using xposed modules.

mlin said:
I remember reading that chainfire was working on a beta root method that does not modify the system partition. In this case, you may be able to unlock bootloader --> flash twrp --> flash root --> flash stock recovery and be able to accept security updates? Just a thought. My plan is to flash stock recovery once security patches are released, then reroot if necessary.
Honestly, I really didnt want to root this phone but two things changed my mind: CF Lumen and the potential to set up one handed mode using xposed modules.
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Just flashed this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/wip-android-6-0-marshmellow-t3219344 which is the systemless root, works with Android Pay so I dont see why it wouldn't work with a system update as long as you have the stock recovery.

Shockz said:
I was thinking this too but apparently titanium backup can create flashable zips so in theory you can do that, flash the zip to restore apps and never need root access in the actual app.
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But how would you flash the zip? Doesn't you need a custom recovery. If so, why not just root?
Regardless, I like having my device weekly backed up as well. Can never be too careful.
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mlin said:
I remember reading that chainfire was working on a beta root method that does not modify the system partition. In this case, you may be able to unlock bootloader --> flash twrp --> flash root --> flash stock recovery and be able to accept security updates? Just a thought. My plan is to flash stock recovery once security patches are released, then reroot if necessary.
Honestly, I really didnt want to root this phone but two things changed my mind: CF Lumen and the potential to set up one handed mode using xposed modules.
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Which module for one-handed mode please?
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racing_md said:
Are you sure about that? I am rooted with adaway and have no problems with mms. I don't see how adaway could possibly affect your ability to sent SMS or mms.
As far as the security updates are concerned, download the image and manually flash system, vendor, and bootloader for each update. I am on the November update as a result
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Yes it was definitely Ad-Away. Tried using different messaging apps. Once I removed Ad-Away it MMS worked again. Something about it was blocking the MMS portion, regular SMS was fine.

dratsablive said:
Yes it was definitely Ad-Away. Tried using different messaging apps. Once I removed Ad-Away it MMS worked again. Something about it was blocking the MMS portion, regular SMS was fine.
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Interesting. What carrier do you use? The only thing I can think of is that somehow your mms data is coming from a domain that is being blocked by adaway (which would be very strange...) If that is the case then you could whitelist the domain in adaway once you determined what domain it is.
OP: One thing to keep in mind with systemless root, it does not work with all programs because some programs have hardcoded paths to SU. This is why I have stuck to traditional root for the highest compatability. The tradeoff being that I have to manually flash the security updates. Not a huge deal as it takes five minutes out of my life and data is preserved.

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Yes it was definitely Ad-Away. Tried using different messaging apps. Once I removed Ad-Away it MMS worked again. Something about it was blocking the MMS portion, regular SMS was fine.
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Weird, I don't have any issues. Maybe because I'm on Project Fi? Glad to hear you got in working though.:good:

akarol said:
But how would you flash the zip? Doesn't you need a custom recovery. If so, why not just root?
Regardless, I like having my device weekly backed up as well. Can never be too careful.
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Which module for one-handed mode please?
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I use this module https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hamzah.onehandmode coupled with gravity box to toggle via long pressing the recenta button on the navbar
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I'm still on the traditional root method also. At least it doesn't sound too hard to update. One thing about traditional root is I believe Android pay won't work if you use that.
Rick

racing_md said:
Interesting. What carrier do you use? The only thing I can think of is that somehow your mms data is coming from a domain that is being blocked by adaway (which would be very strange...) If that is the case then you could whitelist the domain in adaway once you determined what domain it is.
OP: One thing to keep in mind with systemless root, it does not work with all programs because some programs have hardcoded paths to SU. This is why I have stuck to traditional root for the highest compatability. The tradeoff being that I have to manually flash the security updates. Not a huge deal as it takes five minutes out of my life and data is preserved.
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I am on AT&T.

dudekiller said:
then i guess if i was going to distill this down to what im really trying to get at is, i passionatly hate ads, they completely ruin my mobile experience and i just wanted to filter them out. is there a non-rooted way to do this?
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You can use Adguard without root. I use it since 3 month and for me it's way better than Adaway.

-X5- said:
You can use Adguard without root. I use it since 3 month and for me it's way better than Adaway.
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awesome suggestion... i will use this... though it is a bit concerning running all of my traffic through an unknown vpn... a lot of trust going on there...

Hiding root for media apps

I'm not interested in trying to use Android Pay on a rooted device, but would like to use DirecTV Now and Netflix if they check for root. I know DirecTV Now does not work. I tried the app to hide root with no success. Is the only other option to try to go the suhide route? I don't really need root, but I had to add a line to my build.prop to enable hot spot. I would remove root if it meant I didn't have to restore my device losing the build.prop changes.

lip008 said:
I'm not interested in trying to use Android Pay on a rooted device, but would like to use DirecTV Now and Netflix if they check for root. I know DirecTV Now does not work. I tried the app to hide root with no success. Is the only other option to try to go the suhide route? I don't really need root, but I had to add a line to my build.prop to enable hot spot. I would remove root if it meant I didn't have to restore my device losing the build.prop changes.
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Why can't you just do a full unroot in SuperSU app?

acejavelin said:
Why can't you just do a full unroot in SuperSU app?
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Don't tell me it's that easy! LoL the super newb in me is exposed.

lip008 said:
Don't tell me it's that easy! LoL the super newb in me is exposed.
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lol... it is that easy. Open the SuperSU app and go to settings, there is an option for Full Unroot, let it do it's thing and reboot and your good to go.
As always, backup in TWRP first, just in case.

Install Magisk.... I used it to get Android Pay working. There is a Hide Su feature.

acejavelin said:
lol... it is that easy. Open the SuperSU app and go to settings, there is an option for Full Unroot, let it do it's thing and reboot and your good to go.
As always, backup in TWRP first, just in case.
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I have my original backup before the root. Technically I don't understand how you can make changes to the OS or whatever then remove root on the stock OS.

Bwangster12 said:
Install Magisk.... I used it to get Android Pay working. There is a Hide Su feature.
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Yeah, Magisk root seems to be the way to go now days.

acejavelin said:
Yeah, Magisk root seems to be the way to go now days.
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Flashing Magisk and then installing Magisk Manager was super simple and clean. Magisk's SU option seems to work perfectly find for everything. Tasker has had a little bit of an issue, but its easy to remedy.

Bwangster12 said:
Install Magisk.... I used it to get Android Pay working. There is a Hide Su feature.
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I removed root, hotspot still works, and DirecTV Now also works. Now if the DirecTV Now developers would fix the app to autohide onscreen buttons like it used to I'd be all set. At least the Pure's display isn't AMOLED so I don't have to worry about burn-in.
Android and the XDA community are a beautiful thing...lol. Magisk looks great. I will read up on it.

Bwangster12 said:
Flashing Magisk and then installing Magisk Manager was super simple and clean. Magisk's SU option seems to work perfectly find for everything. Tasker has had a little bit of an issue, but its easy to remedy.
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Hmm... I was planning on re-rooting soon, perhaps I will do it with Magisk and update my root tutorial.

I was prepping myself to give up root, especially with some of the newer DNS based ad blockers (not requiring root), the ability to get Android Pay working, etc... but as soon as I saw Magisk, it sort of solved all the problems and meant there really isn't anything you need to be unrooted for that you can't do rooted.

Bwangster12 said:
I was prepping myself to give up root, especially with some of the newer DNS based ad blockers (not requiring root), the ability to get Android Pay working, etc... but as soon as I saw Magisk, it sort of solved all the problems and meant there really isn't anything you need to be unrooted for that you can't do rooted.
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Can you give me an example of one of the newer DNS ad blockers you're using? Other than installing the modified YouTube apk to get rid of ads on that app it's the only thing missing that I want to do. Block ads across the device. Last program I used was adblock on the G Flex 2. Seemed to work well without breaking anything, but I was rooted.

lip008 said:
Can you give me an example of one of the newer DNS ad blockers you're using? Other than installing the modified YouTube apk to get rid of ads on that app it's the only thing missing that I want to do. Block ads across the device. Last program I used was adblock on the G Flex 2. Seemed to work well without breaking anything, but I was rooted.
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DNS66. Works system wide by redirecting DNS traffic to a VPN that filters out advertisers. It uses some of the same published lists as adaway. I installed it on my kids unrooted moto G4. No complaints, seems to be working as expected with minimal overhead, and no root required.

lip008 said:
Can you give me an example of one of the newer DNS ad blockers you're using? Other than installing the modified YouTube apk to get rid of ads on that app it's the only thing missing that I want to do. Block ads across the device. Last program I used was adblock on the G Flex 2. Seemed to work well without breaking anything, but I was rooted.
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AdGuard is very good....And I've tried BlockThis which isnt bad. Arter97 patches the YouTube app to remove ads. You can find that on XDA

DNS66 works very well and light on resources. I used it up until I rooted my phone. I have installed it on my wife's phone (she won't let me root) and she loves it. Best part: it's open source and free.

acejavelin said:
Hmm... I was planning on re-rooting soon, perhaps I will do it with Magisk and update my root tutorial.
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Been keeping an eye on where all the options to root are going. I noticed you're pretty active in the community and have a good guide for traditional supersu rooting. You should definelt update with Magisk method when you can