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Remember when you came to XDA everyday and there was always something new for your phone?
What is going on? We only have two roms for a phone thats been out for a year?

You want constent support from the development community, follow the sheep and buy a highly advertised device like the Note 4 or go pure Android with Nexus.
The Note Edge was never highly advertised, nor did anyone really know how using the edge would be like. So the majority of the public got a Note 4 over the Note Edge, because the heard about the phone more.
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You could learn how to build your own custom rom.

Ya I don't think it's the forum I think it's the phone. The sprint guy I asked at my local store told me about 2 months after it was released they haven't even sold 1 unit yet out of that store. I think it was way overpriced on the 2 year service agreement price. It was 299 for the note 4 and 429 for the note edge. I think that really hurt the sales.
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Speedin07si said:
You want constent support from the development community, follow the sheep and buy a highly advertised device like the Note 4 or go pure Android with Nexus.
The Note Edge was never highly advertised, nor did anyone really know how using the edge would be like. So the majority of the public got a Note 4 over the Note Edge, because the heard about the phone more.
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You could learn how to build your own custom rom.
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That's not really a good excuse. The phone is the exact same other than the screen. I can't imagine it'd be that much more difficult to make a Note 4 rom work on an Edge.

Darksynz said:
That's not really a good excuse. The phone is the exact same other than the screen. I can't imagine it'd be that much more difficult to make a Note 4 rom work on an Edge.
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The phone is not the exact same. Maybe some of the hardware is, but software wise it's a completely different animal.
The screen being a huge difference. In making a custom rom someone would need to figure out how to code to make use of the edge display like it works with stock rom.
Do some research before complaining. Like I said Samsung never intended for this device to be the new flagship device. The majority bought Note 4 or other devices. Or the heavy modders bought Nexus or the One Plus One.
One of the pitfalls to being a early adopter of a device that Samsung used as a feeler to see how the public reacted to the curved screen. Hell if I remember correctly Samsung only produced a limited amount of Samsung Note Edge's. Which could also be the reason why developers steered clear of this device.

you have to realize too as far as i have heard they sold a **** ton more note 4 than note edge so less people have them which equals to less people developing roms. i get bored with mine too sometimes i am checking for the lollipop update daily. just to get something different on there. but it is what it is man. be happy with it or go to the note 4 is my only advice for you

Darksynz said:
Remember when you came to XDA everyday and there was always something new for your phone?
What is going on? We only have two roms for a phone thats been out for a year?
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Your right about lack of roms, your 100% incorrect that the edge has been out for a year. Edge release date was November 2014. Lets hope in time more devs jump on board.

Lol I wish it has been out for a year. Maybe in a year someone will Crack the root process for Verizon note edge. And I won't have to buy the developer edition that looks like it's never releasing.

im sellingmine on ebay i cant take it..im bored to i really messed up buying this without more research i spent about 850 i feel so dume i know i knew better to...hey f.y.i for anyone like myself that bought a note 4 edge sprint,you do have the option to switch to tmobile theyare offering to pay up to 650 per line to get you tpo switch over i dont really wanna leave sprint but tmobile signal is also 4g in my area and they can get me out of this hole im in ,and back to a better phone that has development,im gonna go with the normal note 4 or the nexus 9 or the newest one,sucks to leave sprint realy but gonna be worth it not being stuck with this phone for so long!!

Darksynz said:
Remember when you came to XDA everyday and there was always something new for your phone?
What is going on? We only have two roms for a phone thats been out for a year?
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Yeah, I remember the times when I had a nonperfect phone that needed a custom Rom for major improvements. Now I don't have a dire need for full tweaks anymore, which is kind of boring. But I would love more cool new apps for the edge panel, other than uninspired superhero themes.
But I will soon try some Roms anyway, just for the fun of it.

If you want to point fingers aim them at samsung. This is, function wise, the best phone I ever had. They billed it as a concept phone and developers said: eff that! Why devote time and resources to a phone that is a shot in the dark. I had the htc hd2 and the htc sensation and in 2 weeks there were ROMs, tips, accessories and everything. The support and marketing for this phone has been abysmal. Samsung is lucky that I stopped rooting my phones so I do not look to tinker with it as much as I used to do so stock is fine. But they really did us, consumers of this particular phone, no favors.

lucky_515 said:
im sellingmine on ebay i cant take it..im bored to i really messed up buying this without more research i spent about 850 i feel so dume i know i knew better to...hey f.y.i for anyone like myself that bought a note 4 edge sprint,you do have the option to switch to tmobile theyare offering to pay up to 650 per line to get you tpo switch over i dont really wanna leave sprint but tmobile signal is also 4g in my area and they can get me out of this hole im in ,and back to a better phone that has development,im gonna go with the normal note 4 or the nexus 9 or the newest one,sucks to leave sprint realy but gonna be worth it not being stuck with this phone for so long!!
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I believe if you have a plan with unlimited data with sprint you can upgrade every 12 months.
But if you bought the phone for full price your shouldn't be locked into any contract.

Too bad sprint coverage in my area is lacking... my unlimited days is the only thing keeping me with Verizon at this point. Is literally take any other service if it was unlimited 4G in my house like my Verizon.
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All that I'll say is.... Getting an AOSP/AOKP rom to work with the edge panel has been.... Very unforgiving. I'll keep tinkering in my spare time, but it isnt looking good.
Otherwise, you'd be looking for more themed / debloated TW roms.... Which with root, you can debloat it yourself anyway....
-sent from the edge of the note galaxy-

I feel your pain.. the edge doesn't seem like that much of a difference at first, after all it's just 1 little screen that's different about it. I've reached a point where i am now just ordering a new one cause there is no going back with this one now. This time i'm going to do what i should have done in the first place... Make a backup immediately!
As far as building a complete custom rom ground up, I am not that good. i'd like to be but i just am not. i'll throw out probably a debloated TW with and one without root for those who only want to remove those annoying apps then dont care about root anymore. maybe save someone a little time.
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Is nexus 6p 64gb worth 700 euros? (in my country) or should i wait for SD 820

I am not a guy which swaps phones like socks, but just wondering, seems to be a really good phone, but sd820 seems sooo promising. I have samsung galaxy ace 2 right now, bought it on 2013 january, and i have it till now, and now looking to buy a great phone with good XDA support (yesh im root/custom rom flashing user ) So any thoughts? maybe i would better keep money till samsung galaxy s7 release with either SD80 or exynos 8 ? Because it would mean nexus 6p to lead dropping in price really fast. Any thoughts? thank you.

IAmLucky said:
I am not a guy which swaps phones like socks, but just wondering, seems to be a really good phone, but sd820 seems sooo promising. I have samsung galaxy ace 2 right now, bought it on 2013 january, and i have it till now, and now looking to buy a great phone with good XDA support (yesh im root/custom rom flashing user ) So any thoughts? maybe i would better keep money till samsung galaxy s7 release with either SD80 or exynos 8 ? Because it would mean nexus 6p to lead dropping in price really fast. Any thoughts? thank you.
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Thermal throttling is a thing on SD810, and as far as I can tell, SD820 was delayed due heat related problems. So it seems thermal throttling will stay with us. That was a key thing for me when I was deciding, whether I should pick Nexus 6P or wait for the spring and SD820 devices.
I took Nexus 6P.
Nexus 6P is a easy choice if you're interested in using custom roms and/or are interested in app developing.

Thanks, seems to me that i need to order that phone. Does it really worth 700 euros? current released sd 820 phone scored ~103k or 130k antutu score. Which means that it is double more than nexus 6p right? And do you think if new upcomming smartphones with these mediocre processors will lead phones to price up to 1k usd? in US or in EU
Can't decide what to do since tried to get all that money for a long time now :3

IAmLucky said:
Thanks, seems to me that i need to order that phone. Does it really worth 700 euros? current released sd 820 phone scored ~103k or 130k antutu score. Which means that it is double more than nexus 6p right? And do you think if new upcomming smartphones with these mediocre processors will lead phones to price up to 1k usd? in US or in EU
Can't decide what to do since tried to get all that money for a long time now :3
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Synthetic tests prove nothing. Don't be fooled by benchmarks. Mine 32GB model cost me 650€. So yes, if you like it, get it. I've liked mine a lot.
Flagship phone prices have been increasing over the years, but mostly phones get more expensive because of the storage options (16/32/64/128)

It'll be a huge upgrade from your current phone, but I don't think shelling out the Europe price for it is worthy - hell, it's not just marginally expensive than US or even HK/TW prices! You might want to seek other purchase routes if possible.
If I were you I'd wait for the next batch of SD820 phones, imagining they'd sell for about the same.
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Thank you all! Helped me a lot.

it deserves for sure...

I wasn't happy about the price difference us Europeans have to suffer but I bit the bullet and got my 64GB Aluminium 6P for 699 Euros a couple of weeks ago, it's worth every penny in my opinion. Just sucks that we're basically paying for the promotions Americans are getting.
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Nomoi said:
I wasn't happy about the price difference us Europeans have to suffer but I bit the bullet and got my 64GB Aluminium 6P for 699 Euros a couple of weeks ago, it's worth every penny in my opinion. Just sucks that we're basically paying for the promotions Americans are getting.
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It is a pretty bad price differential, and I don't think that there's anything one could write that would make the situation any better for you.
As to your choice, I think you made the right one...the attention a smartphone receives after it released is about 1-2 months, if you're lucky.
The odd thing about the technology treadmill is that there is no perfect timing to buy that is independent of your personal needs and available funds at the time of purchase. You should buy the best you can afford, and ignore that which happens afterwards, or it'll drive you crazy.
The months preceding the release of a new device can be exciting, but that's what the manufacturers want...buzz. The cold, hard truth is that the moment the new phone hits the market, the media shifts the dialog to the ones that are...6 months from release...they are already pushing S7 leaks, and it's not going to be available until Q2 2016. And, by the time the S7 arrives, the Note 6 will be just around the corner. In the above scenario, if you waited for the perfect phone, it would never arrive.
You are holding the best Android handset available, and it I includes features that no other smartphone manufacturer can promise...great battery life, regular updates from Google, and plenty of development in the Android Development and Original Development sections.
Buy and stay with the Nexus...you'll never go back to another Samsung phone.
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Very nice opinion. Can anyone tell me how much was worth nexus5 and nexus 6 at the time of release in US an EU? tried to find on google but nothing there. Thank you. Probably will buy 64 gb graphite nexus 6Perfect

IAmLucky said:
I have samsung galaxy ace 2 right now, bought it on 2013 january, and i have it till now, and now looking to buy a great phone with good XDA support (yesh im root/custom rom flashing user ) So any thoughts?
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If you're coming from a Galaxy Ace, then get yourself a near-new Galaxy S4 or S5 and save yourself a truckload of money! Those phones are tried and tested and will be a noticeable improvement over what you now have. Plus there are oodles of goodies, mods and proven ROMs for them...with all the bugs worked out. You don't need the latest and greatest because it's usually a bunch of hype, especially if you like to muck with the phones. Then in 3 years from now, you can score an S6 for a song.
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yah, but want to try something else than samsung now, battery is very poor on samsung idk why, friend has s4 and he has huge problems with battery drain. 1-1,5 hours SOT so yeah.

In Germany you have to pay about 150 Euro extra for a Nexus 6p which is criminal in my opinion. But what else can you expect from a country which is reigned by "do-gooders" (=people with a IQ of less than 80 ) ? However, if you want longterm updates for the next years, a Nexus 6p is still a good choice

IAmLucky said:
yah, but want to try something else than samsung now, battery is very poor on samsung idk why, friend has s4 and he has huge problems with battery drain. 1-1,5 hours SOT so yeah.
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That's NOT normal! With any phone. That suggests a different problem that had nothing to do with the phone. There are several typical sources of rapid battery drain:
1. Battery is shot/old/fake...change the battery
2. SD card has a problem...change the SD card
3. Cell signalnis weak so phone is constantly searching for better signal...turn on airplane mode...if the drain stops then it's weak signal OR the modem in the phone needs to be changed (by flashing a better one) OR the SIM card is bad
4. Rogue app that's constantly running and waking up the system when it should be sleeping...download Gsam Battery Monitor app to see what's chewing down the battery, then either uninstall the culprit or root and put it to sleep with Greenify
5. Update to latest version of firmware (there were reports of a system issue where phone was not sleeping when it should have been), and delete all the Samsung bloatware for a lighter less ROM
6. Playing a video intensive game non-stop
7. Watching YouTube videos non stop
8. Turning on GPS, Wi-Fi, Internet and cell radio even though you aren't using them especially in weak signal areas...turn off GPS and Wi-Fi if you're not using them
9. Do a spring cleaning...format cache and clear Dalvik as it sometimes gets gummed up in there
10. Yes, it's possible that the phone itself is a bad unit (but that's rarely the case)...so return it for an exchange if within the warranty period
But there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the S4 or S5 that would cause battery to last only 1 to 1½ hours!
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Nexus for life bros. Buy a new Nexus every year and problem solved. Don't even bother looking at other phones .

Should I buy a Nexus 6P?

I'm on Sprint.
So I have a Nexus 6 now, which is fine. But the curved back with its wobblyness on a desktop annoys the hell out of me, it's basically a top.. That's my main annoyance with this phone. That and the missing fingerprint reader.
Aside from that, has anyone switched devices and never wanted to go back?

agentfazexx said:
I'm on Sprint.
So I have a Nexus 6 now, which is fine. But the curved back with its wobblyness on a desktop annoys the hell out of me, it's basically a top.. That's my main annoyance with this phone. That and the missing fingerprint reader.
Aside from that, has anyone switched devices and never wanted to go back?
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Absolutely. I had the Nexus 6 before I got lucky enough to get a 6P. The 6P is hands down my favorite phone ever. I also own a Note 5 and have used many other phones for my job and nothing for me comes close to the 6P.
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Othoric said:
Absolutely. I had the Nexus 6 before I got lucky enough to get a 6P. The 6P is hands down my favorite phone ever. I also own a Note 5 and have used many other phones for my job and nothing for me comes close to the 6P.
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Guess I have to go find a store that has it and play with it to see. Best Buy has it, right?
And since Sprint and those guys don't subsidize devices anymore, will they still buy back devices?

agentfazexx said:
Guess I have to go find a store that has it and play with it to see. Best Buy has it, right?
And since Sprint and those guys don't subsidize devices anymore, will they still buy back devices?
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Actually that's where I work. Best Buy Mobile. While I have seen the 6P online (in gold at that), our store has not received a demo unit in store as of yet. I am hoping it will be soon though. I can't speak for other stores, but your best bet would be to go to the largest Best Buy in your area. If there isn't one there, ask a sales associate to look up if there are any available at a nearby store.
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I've had both. Hard to beat the Nexus 6p. You have to ask yourself if it's worth the ~$250 price difference between what you can sell the 6 for and what you'll pay for the 6p. I found the camera alone made it worth it, not to mention the smoothness and beautiful design. Nexus 6 is a great, fast phone though. It was a tough decision but I find myself without any buyer's remorse.

I have both. It's not much of an upgrade for $500. The camera is way over rated vs the original Nexus 6. Battery life is almost identical for me on both phones with my usage pattern. I say unless you just must have the 6p because it's a nexus don't purchase the 6p. It has its fair share of flaws also. Id wait and get something with a snap dragon 820. Those phones will perform much better than the 6p. Also you can root something with the 820 and make it vanilla Android. I like nexus devices but this was over rated because it was a nexus with a camera that was over hyped. I like the phone but it's just not an upgrade over the original N6 unless you're basing it off of looks. I've taken many pictures with both at the same time and I feel the og 6 takes better photos and I've put the pictures on my computer to investigate for myself. I also have had 2 6ps at once and the photos were identical on those two as I was wondering if something was wrong with my camera. There wasn't. Point and shoot the og 6 takes better photos with much less noise especially inside where the 6p should be the clear winner. Of courses this is my opinion and there will be naysayers. But I'm giving you an honest review and have based it off of facts having both phones.

Idk I think aesthetically it looks better. Plus it doesn't spin like a top when you put it on a table...

For me the 6P is a great looking device, I've only had it a day, I'm giving my M9 back for it, I'm more than happy with it.
I've heard good and bad about the nexus 6 but only good from the 6P. Go for it

dladz said:
For me the 6P is a great looking device, I've only had it a day, I'm giving my M9 back for it, I'm more than happy with it.
I've heard good and bad about the nexus 6 but only good from the 6P. Go for it
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No stores have it in stock so it's kinda a crap shoot right now as to whether or not I'd like it.
This phone works on Sprint, right?

agentfazexx said:
I'm on Sprint.
So I have a Nexus 6 now, which is fine. But the curved back with its wobblyness on a desktop annoys the hell out of me, it's basically a top.. That's my main annoyance with this phone. That and the missing fingerprint reader.
Aside from that, has anyone switched devices and never wanted to go back?
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wait for Snapdragon 820 device. or stay with Nexus 6 until major upgrade comes out.

Switched in October 2015 and never looked back! Try one and send it back if its not your gig...

How does the 5X compare?

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No stores have it in stock so it's kinda a crap shoot right now as to whether or not I'd like it.
This phone works on Sprint, right?
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Not too sure mate, I'm UK based.

agentfazexx said:
No stores have it in stock so it's kinda a crap shoot right now as to whether or not I'd like it.
This phone works on Sprint, right?
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Why wait for it to be in store? If you want to test the software, it's essentially the same as your N6, only with an improved camera and a few minor differences. As for physicality, it's obviously easier to handle because the footprint is smaller in width, lighter, and flat (something you desire). Unless the lack of qi wireless charging is a deal breaker, the 6p seems to fit the bill in many ways.
The 6p is advertised to work on all major US carriers. Why not order one, try it out, then decide if you like it? Playing with one at the store doesn't give you a proper representation of how you use a phone in normal situations anyhow.
Had mine since early December 2015. No buyer's remorse at all. And this is coming from someone who refused to pay more than $200 for a phone for the past 4 years.
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How does the 5X compare?
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For me its the iPhone C to the S as the X is to the 6P. For me there's no comparison..if you'd like this in a smaller phone then I suppose the 5X would be the device to get, in all fairness, the performance is there as its an extremely well made OS.

dladz said:
For me its the iPhone C to the S as the X is to the 6P. For me there's no comparison..if you'd like this in a smaller phone then I suppose the 5X would be the device to get, in all fairness, the performance is there as its an extremely well made OS.
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Yeah I mean I like the real estate the Nexus 6 gives me. My wife's Galaxy S 6 feels tiny. Like original iPhone tiny. lol.
According to bestbuy.com, the 6P is out of stock in stores until 1/13 so maybe they're getting it in to play with?

agentfazexx said:
Yeah I mean I like the real estate the Nexus 6 gives me. My wife's Galaxy S 6 feels tiny. Like original iPhone tiny. lol.
According to bestbuy.com, the 6P is out of stock in stores until 1/13 so maybe they're getting it in to play with?
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No idea mate order online

Sell the note 5 and get a moto pure.

Hi.
I have an unrootable note 5 from att and I cannot stand it.
Should I buy the moto? Are you guys happy with it? Or should I get the giant nexus.

The note 5 is a beast but it all depends if you like the stock feel or lagwiz
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do you buy just for root ?
if you want custom roms and all dont go for moto x

Aftab_khatri said:
do you buy just for root ?
if you want custom roms and all dont go for moto x
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According to this post, 8 CUSTOM ROMs so far on Marshmallow (plus more if you include Lollipop) means no custom ROMs available for this phone...
Good job with that logic.
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Aftab_khatri said:
do you buy just for root ?
if you want custom roms and all dont go for moto x
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Running stock rooted here, it's rock solid
-Moto X Pure-

borisb said:
Hi.
I have an unrootable note 5 from att and I cannot stand it.
Should I buy the moto? Are you guys happy with it? Or should I get the giant nexus.
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Coming from a Verizon Note 5 I do not miss or regret switching to the Moto at all. The only thing that is better is the camera and that's not by much at all. Having a unlocked bootloader, root and some great custom ROMs to play with is well worth the switch. It runs sweet on stock Marshmallow too.

The note series are the best phones money can by specs wise I owed each one up till Note 4 but with the loss of the MicroSD on N5ote and inability to root (Verizon edition), I sold my Note 4 and moved to Moto X. As someone else had shared, the only thing I miss is the better camera quality.

Misterxtc said:
Coming from a Verizon Note 5 I do not miss or regret switching to the Moto at all. The only thing that is better is the camera and that's not by much at all. Having a unlocked bootloader, root and some great custom ROMs to play with is well worth the switch. It runs sweet on stock Marshmallow too.
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Thank you.
Just bought mine. Goodbye Samsung .

borisb said:
Thank you.
Just bought mine. Goodbye Samsung .
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Good choice, I've tried a bunch of phones this year and decided the Mxpe is the best overall phone available. That could change soon with the new phones coming but for the price and ability to unlock and customize with Roms and xposed mods it don't think it can be beat, even by the nexii.
Give us a reply after you spend some time with it. I'm running truepurex 2.6 ROM with xposed, gravity box, minminguard ad blocker, and YouTube adaway. GPS high accuracy, Google location history on and paired with pebble watch and get great performance and battery life.
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redeyss said:
Good choice, I've tried a bunch of phones this year and decided the Mxpe is the best overall phone available. That could change soon with the new phones coming but for the price and ability to unlock and customize with Roms and xposed mods it don't think it can be beat, even by the nexii.
Give us a reply after you spend some time with it. I'm running truepurex 2.6 ROM with xposed, gravity box, minminguard ad blocker, and YouTube adaway. GPS high accuracy, Google location history on and paired with pebble watch and get great performance and battery life.
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Thanks.
I got mine for 375 in Amazon. Great price and I can't wait till I root.

Misterxtc said:
Coming from a Verizon Note 5 I do not miss or regret switching to the Moto at all. The only thing that is better is the camera and that's not by much at all. Having a unlocked bootloader, root and some great custom ROMs to play with is well worth the switch. It runs sweet on stock Marshmallow too.
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Did you consider the LG v10. Especially when it's the same size, CPU and can be picked up for $500 on eBay.

borisb said:
Did you consider the LG v10. Especially when it's the same size, CPU and can be picked up for $500 on eBay.
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As a matter of fact I did and just returned a V10 yesterday. The only better thing from my point of view is the removable battery and camera witch it isn't by much. I was going to purchase one through Verizon on their payment plan that would have cost about $10.00 a month but decided against it. I didn't want to be into Verizon for the payment plan plus no root, unlocked bootloader or Marshmallow really did it in for me. I know how Verizon and LG are slow with phone updates. Plus I really don't care for the 2nd screen. I know it can be turned off but I would lose the on screen notifications when the phone is idle. Other than that the V10 is a great phone and very well built. It definitely takes some great pictures but the Pure is up there too.

Misterxtc said:
As a matter of fact I did and just returned a V10 yesterday. The only better thing from my point of view is the removable battery and camera witch it isn't by much. I was going to purchase one through Verizon on their payment plan that would have cost about $10.00 a month but decided against it. I didn't want to be into Verizon for the payment plan plus no root, unlocked bootloader or Marshmallow really did it in for me. I know how Verizon and LG are slow with phone updates. Plus I really don't care for the 2nd screen. I know it can be turned off but I would lose the on screen notifications when the phone is idle. Other than that the V10 is a great phone and very well built. It definitely takes some great pictures but the Pure is up there too.
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Do you think it's worth getting for 500? If I'm gonna get it (and return the pure) I'm gonna get the tmo version and root the hell out of it. No warranty though for the LG while my moto can be shattered 100 thousand times

borisb said:
Do you think it's worth getting for 500? If I'm gonna get it (and return the pure) I'm gonna get the tmo version and root the hell out of it. No warranty though for the LG while my moto can be shattered 100 thousand times
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$500.00 seems like a good price and being T-Mobile you can do whatever you want with it. Honestly if I could have a unlocked bootloader and root I would have kept it but I have to stick with Verizon because they treat me good. I did settle for a G4 for a bit over $200.00 to play with.

Misterxtc said:
$500.00 seems like a good price and being T-Mobile you can do whatever you want with it. Honestly if I could have a unlocked bootloader and root I would have kept it but I have to stick with Verizon because they treat me good. I did settle for a G4 for a bit over $200.00 to play with.
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Thanks for the advice.
Thinking about it I think I will pass.
Snapdragon 808 does not really need 4gb or RAM.
And I don't really wabt to buy anything from eBay.
Plus I should save some money and wait for the next gen that is going to be out by the end if this year.

borisb said:
Thanks for the advice.
Thinking about it I think I will pass.
Snapdragon 808 does not really need 4gb or RAM.
And I don't really wabt to buy anything from eBay.
Plus I should save some money and wait for the next gen that is going to be out by the end if this year.
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No problem. I think you made a better choice to wait and see what comes out next. That's partly why I picked up a cheap G4 for a 2nd phone to mess with.

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No problem. I think you made a better choice to wait and see what comes out next. That's partly why I picked up a cheap G4 for a 2nd phone to mess with.
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I just realized.
The Nexus 6p is the same price as LG v10. And I did. It get that one since I got the Moto for 375 on Amazon.
Damn you buyers remours. Damn you my sweet capitalist way of life.

But in general. I love the Moto. Much better then the note and much faster (believe it or not).
The display and camera are the best but Samsung (being Samsung) screwed the OS and user experience completely.
Hopefully I can make a quick buck on the note 5.

borisb said:
But in general. I love the Moto. Much better then the note and much faster (believe it or not).
The display and camera are the best but Samsung (being Samsung) screwed the OS and user experience completely.
Hopefully I can make a quick buck on the note 5.
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I had a 6P too lol. I returned it because the build quality stinks. It's way too flimsy. There is a thread in the 6P section with peoples phones easily bending, not cool.

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I had a 6P too lol. I returned it because the build quality stinks. It's way too flimsy. There is a thread in the 6P section with peoples phones easily bending, not cool.
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Nexus 6p 71% s2b ratio. Moto 76%. Enough said.

Note 5, s7 Edge or Note 7?

So, I'm due an upgrade. A certain electronics dealer (not sure if it would be against the rules to name them) is running 2 promos: 1) Get a Note 5: get a $250 gift card at time of purchase. 2) Get any of the s7devices (Edge/Note too) and get a free 32" Sammy Smart TV. I don't really need the tv but the mother in law could use it. So, I literally cannot decide which to get. They have pros and cons all around. I'm a trucker, so my concern about the Edge's display is whether the glare along that curve would be annoying or distracting. My wife's s7 hasn't lagged yet, but reviews of both Notes mention lag (precious few reviews of Note 5 after MM update). Most reviews can't call a clear-cut "pick this one." And so, the freebies enter the equation. What do you guys think? I'm sure some of you had the 5. Do you think the 7 is significantly better? That it performs better?

Depends, I have been a note fan for along time. I use the s pen a bunch, and love the 5.7 inch screen size. I would say if you ate a note fan , and use the s pen a lot then go with the note 7. If you don't use the pen the the s7(or edge) would be good. I had the note 5 as my daily phone for a year, it's a solid phone, but the note 7 is better. The IP68 rating is awesome and I take the note 7 everywhere without worry about the weather. The battery performance is soo much better than the note 5 as well. I also was able to get the 256gb SD card for the Note 7 and its been great to be able to have all my music in my phone again. Hope this helps.
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Sorry for lateness of reply. I've been testing an s7 Edge and an iPhone 6s+ to see if either is a suitable "upgrade." Can't do the iPhone. It's just too limiting. BUT since the Note 7 is officially done for, is the Note 5 "just as good?" I use the S Pen semi-regularly, but it isn't essential. I can do what I do without it. So I'm down to these 3 phones: s7 Edge which is ok but I'm UNimpressed with its performance. Seriously. I expected better, for some reason. LG v20 which is costly and even the AT&T rep was telling me "I've had literally 10 LG V10s returned in 6 months for manufacturing flaws." I asked her to elaborate and she said "Screen issues. Lines and such." Or the Note 5. If the s7 isn't flawless IMO, then how can a half generation older device be any better? Any input is appreciated.

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is the Note 5 "just as good?"
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I think it depends who you ask, and of course what you want to use it for. It isn't a bad device, but to give you an idea, I skipped the Note 5 in favor of my Note 4 at the time because of the removable battery and no SD card. The Note 7 however, was new enough to get me over to the other side and give the "no removable battery" a go (one of the added reasons was also the 256 GB SD card lol).
Right now, my personal options for a new phone are Pixel, V20, S7 Edge or back to my old Note 4 for the time being. And in all honesty, unless I like how the S7 Edge feels within a cover, I'll likely end up with my Note 4 again. I need the space an SD slot can provide me, and well, I'm still kind of hooked to the idea of being able to remove a battery and put a new one in

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I think it depends who you ask, and of course what you want to use it for. It isn't a bad device, but to give you an idea, I skipped the Note 5 in favor of my Note 4 at the time because of the removable battery and no SD card. The Note 7 however, was new enough to get me over to the other side and give the "no removable battery" a go (one of the added reasons was also the 256 GB SD card lol).
Right now, my personal options for a new phone are Pixel, V20, S7 Edge or back to my old Note 4 for the time being. And in all honesty, unless I like how the S7 Edge feels within a cover, I'll likely end up with my Note 4 again. I need the space an SD slot can provide me, and well, I'm still kind of hooked to the idea of being able to remove a battery and put a new one in
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Like you, I held off on the 5 because of those issues. But I'm not a huge fan of the edges/curves. There's not a case on the market that provides decent protection for it simply due to the design. To make matters worse, Zagg pulled its tempered glass protectors because they weren't staying on. Haven't found one yet that does. Functionally, it's an awful design. It's easily broken. The v20 is an option, but it's really expensive, and I just can't justify that for an LG. They don't deserve it. I've never had luck with LG devices lasting. I'm not even remotely interested in the Pixel, but my Note 4 screen has burn-in. The s7 Edge isn't awful, but I was hoping for more in terms of performance. I may just return this one and get a regular s7.

The closest thing to the note 7 is the note 5.. I'm actually using both of them till I return my note 7..lol

I got the N5 when it came out, i was hesitant about the battery and memory (reason i got the 64gb) but i have had no issues. Im glad i didn't sell it. Its in perfect condition.
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The v20 is an option, but it's really expensive, and I just can't justify that for an LG. They don't deserve it. I've never had luck with LG devices lasting.
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Hmm, I think that's a bit the thing. While I have read others saying similar things, I never had any issues with LG Prada that I had when it first came out. I loved that phone at the time.. but granted, it's also the only LG I ever owned so I don't really know for sure how the brand holds up with other models.

I bought an LG TV & Sound plate, and have owned a G2 & Tab 7.0. only the Tab 7 still works. Also, WAAAAY back in the day I had an LG Vu (in the pre-smart phone era). The $200 rebate helps lean me towards it.

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I bought an LG TV & Sound plate, and have owned a G2 & Tab 7.0. only the Tab 7 still works. Also, WAAAAY back in the day I had an LG Vu (in the pre-smart phone era). The $200 rebate helps lean me towards it.
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There's a rebate on the V20 with ATT? If so, that may just be it for me to get pulled into it.

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There's a rebate on the V20 with ATT? If so, that may just be it for me to get pulled into it.
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You have to trade in a paid off smartphone with a minimum value of $5. LOL I'm serious.

keithfrombm said:
You have to trade in a paid off smartphone with a minimum value of $5. LOL I'm serious.
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Hmm... darnit, I wish I didn't destroy a bunch of old smartphones a few months ago. Unsure if there's anything left besides my trusty Note 4... not really feeling like giving that phone up (plus it will get as much if not more when I sell it second hand).. imagine something like the Note 7 debacle happens again lol
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Hmm just quickly checked.. still have to Galaxy S's (the first one)... guess I could get rid of those lol
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Hmm it seems I have a few more old phones, but they're all older than the S and unsure if they are all qualified to them as "smartphone", I even still have the LG Prada lol

Att charges 830 for the v20 and T-Mobile charges 750. Att is a rip off.

borijess said:
Att charges 830 for the v20 and T-Mobile charges 750. Att is a rip off.
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I agree, ATT is a lot more expensive, not just phones but also with the plans. Sadly it's also the only one (together with Verizon, but I want GSM for my trips to Europe so no chance I go to them) that has decent coverage in my state. T-mobile really lacks when it comes to coverage, their customer service isn't that great either in all honesty. The price is right, I agree, if only they had decent coverage then I could live with it I guess.

This might be good for us.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/23...tedly-let-customers-get-a-galaxy-s8-for-free/

borijess said:
This might be good for us.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/23...tedly-let-customers-get-a-galaxy-s8-for-free/
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What about those that just stayed with their old Note 5. This is interesting. No point in me going to a s7 when i still have a perfect N5. Hope im not screwed for not jumping to the s7
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mayonesa01 said:
What about those that just stayed with their old Note 5. This is interesting. No point in me going to a s7 when i still have a perfect N5. Hope im not screwed for not jumping to the s7
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I am thinking of holding on to the note 7 shut it off and use my one plus 3 until the s8 arrives. Then I will exchange for a s7 edge.

I wanted to hold out with my N7 but when they banned them on flights I figured just switch and deal with it...I went with the s7 edge because it was the closest to the N7...I've had it a few weeks now and it's okay. does most of the things the N7 did...I am unhappy with the screen size and do wish I had the stylus...Battery life is similar..But I do feel like I have gone backwards...
I have been calling ATT cust service and my local store trying to convince them to let me get the upgrade when the N8/S8 comes out but they wont...so I'm unhappy I'm locked into this Next contract with a year old phone..
I read Samsung may be doing upgrade offers to the N8 for N7 owners so there is still hope....
This S7 edge is an okay replacement to get us thru but its not a N7....

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I wanted to hold out with my N7 but when they banned them on flights I figured just switch and deal with it...I went with the s7 edge because it was the closest to the N7...I've had it a few weeks now and it's okay. does most of the things the N7 did...I am unhappy with the screen size and do wish I had the stylus...Battery life is similar..But I do feel like I have gone backwards...
I have been calling ATT cust service and my local store trying to convince them to let me get the upgrade when the N8/S8 comes out but they wont...so I'm unhappy I'm locked into this Next contract with a year old phone..
I read Samsung may be doing upgrade offers to the N8 for N7 owners so there is still hope....
This S7 edge is an okay replacement to get us thru but its not a N7....
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You're not necessarily locked into it though.. if you have the Next 12, and if you still have several months to go until the 12 months, you could pay forward to get the upgrade. The rules are pretty much saying that it needs to be paid for 12 months, not that you cannot upgrade for 12 months. Meaning, you pay a few months extra (let's say it comes out in august, you would have to pay 2-3 months extra probably). It isn't a favorable option since the phone you're essentially renting from them becomes more expensive to rent, but I have had it confirmed by an ATT rep that this is indeed possible to do.

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You're not necessarily locked into it though.. if you have the Next 12, and if you still have several months to go until the 12 months, you could pay forward to get the upgrade. The rules are pretty much saying that it needs to be paid for 12 months, not that you cannot upgrade for 12 months. Meaning, you pay a few months extra (let's say it comes out in august, you would have to pay 2-3 months extra probably). It isn't a favorable option since the phone you're essentially renting from them becomes more expensive to rent, but I have had it confirmed by an ATT rep that this is indeed possible to do.
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I'm on the Next 30....I'll call ATT tomorrow and see if I can switch to the 12...ur right it's a better option altho i guess a little more expensive...