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Just got my moto x style to maybe replace my LG G4.
I noticed this strange thing. When I type on the keyboard with the phone in portrait and vertical or if I am lying down and the phone screen is tilted toward my face the vibration function on the keyboard causes some strange tapping noise on the screen! At first I thought maybe there was a small person trying to get out of my phone but there definitely isn't because I looked through the headphone Jack and couldn't see anyone in there!
Seriously though I also noticed the screen sounds really hollow when I tap near to the centre.
Overall though love this phone but also love the G4.
Anyone else notice these oddities.
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That's no person in there. It is the demon that sketches the images on the screen for you. He's knocking because he is displeased with the angle you are asking him to work at.
Seriously though I can't duplicate this. My keyboard vibrate on press sounds the same no matter what angle I hold the phone at. Maybe your vibration motor isn't mounted all that solidly.
Cool drawing. Yes I figured maybe it's loose.
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Okay, so I'm a new Pixel owner (yay!). I've heard and read on every review and site discussing the Pixel that the bezels are so ugly and Google is so dumb, blah blah blah.
First of all, I think it was intentionally done to make the phone more comfortable and ergonomic. If I reach for the home button, it's easy and my thumb doesn't need to bend far down to touch it. Now try reaching down to the bottom of the bezel, where most people seem to want the screen to end. It's awkward and uncomfortable! I think the design is brilliant and more about function over form. I love not contorting my thumb to push buttons. I really question people who want bezels virtually gone. That would be extremely uncomfortable!
Second of all, I got the black Pixel, and this thing hides the large bezels anyway. I honestly don't think it looks bad at all on the black Pixel (maybe XL looks worse?).
What are everyone's thoughts on the bezels? Ugly? Stupid? Helpful? Smart? Ergonomic? Other?
I honestly don't mind the bezels. Even though it feels like the fingerprint reader should be moved to the bottom and act as a home button, Apple would most likely sue.
CyberLykan said:
I honestly don't mind the bezels. Even though it feels like the fingerprint reader should be moved to the bottom and act as a home button, Apple would most likely sue.
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Haha, yeah then it would be WAAAY too similar. I love the rear sensor although I wish they'd implement double tap to wake (not just double tap to see notifications) and then pair it with a knock code like LG for security but ease of access while phone is on a desk or something.
CyberLykan said:
I honestly don't mind the bezels. Even though it feels like the fingerprint reader should be moved to the bottom and act as a home button, Apple would most likely sue.
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Coming from a S7 Edge, I always find myself reaching for the front bottom button to unlock the phone. I hate the rear reader. I always unlock the phone by accident when sliding it into my pocket
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Coming from a S7 Edge, I always find myself reaching for the front bottom button to unlock the phone. I hate the rear reader. I always unlock the phone by accident when sliding it into my pocket
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Wow, I LOVE the rear reader. I could never go back to the front one.
On the bright side, at least you won't accidentally touch the edge panels anymore! I heard many people gripe about that on the S7E.
I like the rear reader and could care less about double tap to wake vs. show notifications because of the fingerprint sensor. I still am dumbfounded how they implemented wake and not double tap to sleep. As for the bezels, I've never paid it much attention since the XL and Pixel have been in cases (incipio) since day one. I almost forget what they look like unless I take them out to clean them.
I also love the rear reader, but I do think the bezels should be smaller.. not by making the screen bigger but by making the phone itself shorter. If you look at the attached image, the battery is "small" in comparison to the frame, the lower circuit board could have been made to be more compact allowing the frame of the phone to be closer to the size of the screen.
Apple has too many shortcomings to mention but the one thing they excel at IMHO is design. The iPhone 7's size is perfect. I just wish it wasn't filled with all that... crap.
Rear reader is the best in my opinion.
I think the bottom chin can be smaller otherwise I'm not complaining. Its symmetrical right now.
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Compared to my S7e I get zero false touches and have no issues accidentally tapping back button as i grip the phone and turn to hold it in landscape. Likewise holding it generally doesn't require hand gymnastics and I never accidentally let it slip my grip. All of which were frequent and persistent ergonomic issues with my S6E+ & S7E. There are tangible benefits to bezels that whilst some may not like them aesthetically and prefer bezelless, from a practicality stand point they make using your phone far less an exercise in hand dexterity ...
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I'm also a fan of the rear reader. I came to the pixel from a Sony Xperia Z5 with the reader built into the right side power button. I was a fan of that, and the only thing I preferred it for was when the phone is flat on a table. Other than that, the rear reader is much more natural to hit.
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I think I'm the only person who doesn't mind bezels lol. The only thing I'd change about the pixel is to have actual hardware buttons instead of wasting the screen with the onscreen buttons. Or at least capacitive buttons. I can't stand the thought of a phone with little to no bezels. It would be a nightmare to use and screen would be way more fragile
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I think I'm the only person who doesn't mind bezels lol. The only thing I'd change about the pixel is to have actual hardware buttons instead of wasting the screen with the onscreen buttons. Or at least capacitive buttons. I can't stand the thought of a phone with little to no bezels. It would be a nightmare to use and screen would be way more fragile
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Seriously, people act like it's the end of the world. Economics are important for a phone! I love them!
Nothing to discuss we knew what we were getting when we bought it
There's the galaxy s7 edge for you
PunishedSnake said:
Nothing to discuss we knew what we were getting when we bought it
There's the galaxy s7 edge for you
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Who are you talking to? I am praising the bezels. Did you read this thread at all? If so, I don't know what the S7E has to do with me...?
Don't mind the bezels. Gives you something to hold on to... But if you hold on to them, you can't hear the crap bottom facing speaker. With all that space, they could have popped at least one front facing speaker if not two. This is one thing I miss about my 5x.
Sell me on the device! I currently have the S7E and its due for an upgrade and looking to pick up the V20 primarily for its video and audio awesomeness. Is it worth doing this upgrade? Part of me thinks its not really a good idea being they are pretty even spec wise (what I can see). So for people that use the phone camera alot is it worth upgrading to?
My wife has S7E. I came from Note 7. Felt like S7E was a downgrade from Note 7.
I've been thrilled with the V20 overall. I'm not a big camera person - so can't give much input there. But from an overall experience I'd definitely recommend it.
Absolutely worth the shift. Move on with V20 without any doubt.
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Some people will tell you "don't because the photos will come up with an oil painting effect " however, i only see that when i zoom the photo to the maximum and not in all the photos i get to see it. But i love how this phone take pictures ans videos. And also how it sounds. If you happen to have a friend with a V20, ask him to lend it to you for a couple of minutes and give it a try. In my opinion, it is worth the $820 - 200 = 600. 600 - 149 = 451. This if you got all the promotions ?
I actually switched from a S7 Edge to the V20, and I love it. The V20 is so much faster, and I think the second display implementation is much better than the edge display (although I kinda miss AOD and the Amoled but it's not a huge loss).
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I actually switched from a S7 Edge to the V20, and I love it. The V20 is so much faster, and I think the second display implementation is much better than the edge display (although I kinda miss AOD and the Amoled but it's not a huge loss).
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I agree w 2nd display vs edge. Never used edge. If i had gone to S7, might have gone non-edge variety. Use 2nd screen all the time on V20.
Never used always on display on Note 7 - 2nd screen is much better implementation for the same info
Also thought id miss LED - haven't one bit.
Thought the finger print sensor on back was awkward at first. But with V20 just have to put finger there, not push button to activate like Note 7 - it has worked well.
Lack of physical buttons - real ones feel strange now lol.
Thought i would miss SPen - don't - EXCEPT the ability to make gifs with it.
Several other new features too that have enhanced my opinion of V20 as not only a replacement of Note 7, but an upgrade.
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I agree w 2nd display vs edge. Never used edge. If i had gone to S7, might have gone non-edge variety. Use 2nd screen all the time on V20.
Never used always on display on Note 7 - 2nd screen is much better implementation for the same info
Also thought id miss LED - haven't one bit.
Thought the finger print sensor on back was awkward at first. But with V20 just have to put finger there, not push button to activate like Note 7 - it has worked well.
Lack of physical buttons - real ones feel strange now lol.
Thought i would miss SPen - don't - EXCEPT the ability to make gifs with it.
Several other new features too that have enhanced my opinion of V20 as not only a replacement of Note 7, but an upgrade.
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The one downside with 2nd screen is, being LCD, I have to turn it off at night because there's a good amount of light leaking. Not a huge issue, at least LG include the feature to put it on a timer.
I love the position of the fingerprint sensor, it's so much better than being on the front. With front scanners, you have to bend your thumb terribly to reach the scanner when holding the phone with 1 hand. With the back sensor you can practically rest your finger on the sensor. And the Tap-On unlock code is such a cool feature for when you can't reach the back of the device. The 1 thing I hate though is the power button. I love how fast the device unlocks but sometimes I actually want to see the lock screen.
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The one downside with 2nd screen is, being LCD, I have to turn it off at night because there's a good amount of light leaking. Not a huge issue, at least LG include the feature to put it on a timer.
I love the position of the fingerprint sensor, it's so much better than being on the front. With front scanners, you have to bend your thumb terribly to reach the scanner when holding the phone with 1 hand. With the back sensor you can practically rest your finger on the sensor. And the Tap-On unlock code is such a cool feature for when you can't reach the back of the device. The 1 thing I hate though is the power button. I love how fast the device unlocks but sometimes I actually want to see the lock screen.
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Ive never really noticed the light leaking (i prob will now, thanks lol)
I used tap on/pin personally when finger print is not convenient. But that's rare. I cant remember the last time i actually pressed the power button.
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Ive never really noticed the light leaking (i prob will now, thanks lol)
I used tap on/pin personally when finger print is not convenient. But that's rare. I cant remember the last time i actually pressed the power button.
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Haha sorry it really isn't that bad, just noticeable after using AOD on S7E
That's fair, I guess it's just nice to have the option. Maybe Android will do away with the lock screen in a few years anyway lol
Honestly I would say wait until the G6 is released or the Galaxy S8 is released. Then you can make your decision. Sure they are a couple of months out, but those phones more than likely could and probably will be a better upgrade than the V20. But then again, if you're wanting a phone that you can for sure root and have an unlocked bootloader then definitely make sure you pick one of these guys up soon.
Look. I came from a N7 to the V20. I actually quite prefer the asthetics and the AMOLED display of the N7. However, when I decided to make the switch, I knew what I was going for in the device. I wanted a multitude of features that the V20 had that the N7 lacked. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I actually wanted the V20 more than the N7, so it felt like an upgrade to me. If you are looking to be talked into a device, it isn't the right one for you. I say hold off until end of Feb middle March when they announce the S8 line and see what that brings. If nothing exciting is projected, then you still have the V20 (or even the G6) to upgrade to.
Love the v20 of you like crisp clear audio its a must buy.
I drive truck so i use it for music etc 12 hours a day.
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Well, I came from the short-lived Galaxy Note 7.
Strictly camera wise, I think the S7/N7 camera is a clear winner, especially in low light. But the wide angle lens for the V20 is incredibly useful. Just be careful with the lens, it's fragile.
But everything else about the V20 is terrific. Multi tasking with Nougat is brilliant. It's speedy, with lots of RAM. Battery life is good, removable and supports Quick Charge. At least for my variant, it supports Cat. 12 LTE, so it's future proof. And VoLTE, which means call quality is very clear.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with this phone. It's underrated IMO.
My only disappointment is it doesn't support 3G video calls. But I've read that some US variants support this.
My most recent phones have been the Galaxy S7e, Note 7, back to the S7e, 2nd Note 7, and now the V20. I went with the V20 because it had decent specs and I'd already done the S7e twice. If you like the camera in the S7 , you'll be disappointed with the one in the V20. I'd put the picture quality about equivalent with what I got from the Note 4. Personally I will probably get the S8 in April. I miss too many things from the Samsung line like the AMOLED screen, Samsung Pay, water proofing, wireless charging, and camera quality. I also like the edge screen better than the second LCD. I find the icons on the second LCD too high up to easily hit one handed. A couple things I have liked on the V20 are the rear fingerprint reader and the metal back.
Oh that I agree. The second screen on the top is too high, due to the large screen. So I don't really use it much.
I'm looking forward to the S8. Hopefully there is a model without the Edge display. I don't really need that.
V20 is a great phone feature wise, looks much better than the S7E (in my oppinion of course), audio output is great, software is decent, but battery life is a big letdown. Choose it only if you don't care about the battery life.
Thanks for all the reply's! I think I'm gonna go with the LG V20 switch it up. Is the Version version rootable?
Well it looks like many people answered your question,, myself i had the S7E for two weeks, before seeing that there was not a lot of development for the phone. That's why i switched.
i actually came from a note 7 as well. Had a choice between a v20 or a s7e.
I figured the s7e was a downgrade so i went with the v20.
my thoughts:
1. Note 7 camera is way better. At auto, you practically end up with great pictures almost every time. Many people will tell you here the v20 camera is awesome when it's in manual, but I don't have time to set the settings first before taking a shot. Taking pictures of moving objects such as people walking will end up with blurred people even in bright light. Manual settings at a faster shutter speed will fix that of course.
2. The second screen is useful when off when I want to turn on the flash light. But that's about the only use I have for it lol. I still end up using nav button to switch apps...habits die hard.
3. Battery life is good for both phones.
4. Screen of Note 7 is still better.
5. I think Note 7 to v20 wasn't an upgrade. It was a little downgrade, but it was newer than the s7e...so I guess I really didn't have a choice. It was a Note 4 to Note 7 anyways...so still an upgrade from that.
6. Do I think you should switch from an s7e to a v20....right now? no. Last year, probably a yes...but now that new phones are around the corner, I suggest you wait for those.
Look at the Mate 9 it's a great phone with insane battery and the speed of the software is unmatched. I also have a v20
Sure this is pure speculation but according to the leaks, the core design is same as S8 with even more screen to body ratio. They haven't cracked the fingerprint under display so it's on the back below the camera. And it may have Samsung's new 512GB storage.
With this, would you still consider upgrading your S8 to S9?
Nope. S8+ has been perfect for me as a phone (barring a screen issue) so I'll keep it until it dies.
Same here. Nothing in the Note 8 or the S9 that looks like a worthy upgrade from the S8+.
Absolutely not. Hate edges, back glass, and these stupid top and bottom black bezels which with 18.5:9 screen looks horrible.
Plus lag. I am going for the pure android ie oneplus 6, and Sony Edge or mate 11
Nah, this device does everything so well. It will take a much larger leap forward.
S9 will run on oreo, meaning treble is built in, meaning aosp android has to boot.... aosp android has to boot! Wubba lubba dub dub *****es!
I see no reason to go to Samung. Current S8+ is completely satisfied with performance, etc.
In the S9 I did not notice any breakthrough technologies to consider the transition to it. Dual camera??? Best processor??? it's all evolution, I'm waiting for something revolutionary ))))
The s8+ is probably the last Samsung device i will own,but, credit is due where its due. The S8+, hands down has been and pretty sure will be hard to beat for maybe a year maybe 2. This phone, although a bunch of headacjes, has been the best phone ive ever owned and ive went tbrough a lot of phones. The speed on this is perfect,though,the touchscreen pisses me off. Cant text any words correctly. But as far as upgrading to the S9, there is no reason to unless you are an like an apple junkie that chases the newest things out for no apparent reason. The S8/S8+ handsdown best on the market. Stamped with approval by me haha.
I normally keep my phones for years, I ran my Note 3 right up until I received my S8+, but I am eagerly searching for a new phone. I will never again buy a phone with any sort of curved edge to it. You just cannot find a tempered glass screen protector that actually functions correctly with it. I guess I really should have looked into it before pre-ordering 3 of these things for my kids and myself. It's extremely heartbreaking, because I love the Galaxy and Note line of phones. But, for the love of God Almighty, give me a flat screen! I also concur completely with prfraczek on the bezels and back glass. Straight up disappointing.
prophet558 said:
Sure this is pure speculation but according to the leaks, the core design is same as S8 with even more screen to body ratio. They haven't cracked the fingerprint under display so it's on the back below the camera. And it may have Samsung's new 512GB storage.
With this, would you still consider upgrading your S8 to S9?
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if price is 500 USD, i will buy one. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
No way, the S8+ is perfect and most of us have a 2 year contract. Most reviews I've read about about S8+ v Note 8 says there's no comparison or the S8+ wins.
Honestly I was expecting a giant leap with iPhone X like bezel less design without a notch and a finger print scanner beneath the glass. Vivo even demonstrated it few months ago and I dunno why Samsung is reluctant to use it. Maybe they are holding onto these stuffs for galaxy 10 or something.
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Honestly I was expecting a giant leap with iPhone X like bezel less design without a notch and a finger print scanner beneath the glass. Vivo even demonstrated it few months ago and I dunno why Samsung is reluctant to use it. Maybe they are holding onto these stuffs for galaxy 10 or something.
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How do you imagine where the light sensor, infrared sensor and front camera would be without bezels? popping out of the side?
See mi mix 2?
But I am not fan of it
ItsPeet said:
How do you imagine where the light sensor, infrared sensor and front camera would be without bezels? popping out of the side?
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The only logical placement for the front camera and ambient/proximity sensor is on a notch like iPhone X or in the 'eye' like in the essential phone.
I've never know Samsung devices to have an IR blaster, at least after the Galaxy S6 era
As for the fingerprint sensor, don't you know that FP sensors are in the sides beneath the power button like in Xperia Z series and even the new Razer phone.
Meizu has a device in the works that has separate power button and FP sensor in the side bezel. Gotta see what type of convince it offers.
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See mi mix 2?
But I am not fan of it
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Why do you dislike Mi Mix2? I actually have it as a backup phone and it's really a powerful and well built device. Except for the front facing camera in the bottom but I'd rather have it in the bottom than having an annoying notch ruining the experience.
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Why do you dislike Mi Mix2? I actually have it as a backup phone and it's really a powerful and well built device. Except for the front facing camera in the bottom but I'd rather have it in the bottom than having an annoying notch ruining the experience.
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Not fan of bottom camera but lovely device
peachpuff said:
S9 will run on oreo, meaning treble is built in, meaning aosp android has to boot.... aosp android has to boot! Wubba lubba dub dub *****es!
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Project treble is not built in...
I love the Galaxy S8+, but I'm going to need an Exynos device clearly next year, I would have loved to see pure AOSP because I think Samsung should just stick to hardware and let Google manage software. Snapdragon variants battle people that hold this view.
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Project treble is not built in...
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Every phone running oreo from the start has it built in, and s9 will run oreo according to leaked geekbench scores.
New to the 1+ world, wondering if face unlock can work as I lift the phone and get the ambient display screen? Seems like a waste of effort to have to double-tap screen or press the power button to go to the lock screen first before FU activates.
Unfortunately that's what I was looking for but I did not find that feature....
Not possible without an update from OnePlus
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New to the 1+ world, wondering if face unlock can work as I lift the phone and get the ambient display screen? Seems like a waste of effort to have to double-tap screen or press the power button to go to the lock screen first before FU activates.
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Not possible without an update from OnePlus
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Yes, this is what I thought. I think this is a major drawback of this phone. Clearly it *could* work if they wanted it to since the fp sensor is available from the ambient screen. Seems like they are trying to put the focus on the gimmicky in-screen fp sensor.