Android Marshmallow beta test starts in Tiwan for Zenfone 2 , Zenfone 2 Laser and Zenfone Zoom
For more details go here - http://www.asus-zenfone.com/2016/01/android-marshmallow-beta-test-starts.html?m=1
finally :good:
thanks for sharing
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The beta test program is end at the end of february
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Are you thinking what I am thinking?
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Will this in any way (blobs...) help the development of CM 13 ?
I'll tell you what I think, after marshmallow has been out for 9 months they are going to start beta testing in the smallest market they have, we are still on 5.0 after close to a year, so given their track record well see marshmallow about 28 months after google N is released, so I'm personally not holding my breathe we'll actually ever see any upgrades ever and most of our devices will with Lollipop still on them.
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Sorry, most of our devices will DIE with Lollipop still on them
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I prefer 5.0 over 5.1.1 as 5.1.1 ran slower, had a less fluid system ui response and really didn't see any huge improvements anywhere other than it took less ram to run the system. Lollipop was just a horrible os and I would have been happier with kitkat personally.
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Anyone here Asus's Official Beta tester ? ?
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I prefer 5.0 over 5.1.1 as 5.1.1 ran slower, had a less fluid system ui response and really didn't see any huge improvements anywhere other than it took less ram to run the system. Lollipop was just a horrible os and I would have been happier with kitkat personally.
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Yea Lollipop turned out like Honeycomb imo. I would've been fine with KK or JB. 6.0 seems to be the new ICS/JB/KK cycle.
Excellent that is a good new, We only need wait a little more.
I wonder how long it will be before we actually see the final release, I wouldn't mind using beta either if anyone could compile it into a ROM for us to flash.
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I wonder how long it will be before we actually see the final release, I wouldn't mind using beta either if anyone could compile it into a ROM for us to flash.
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Let's wait for Marshmallow beta WW Sku . ?
Good thing ! Wanna join testers !
No point even thinking about these phones anymore. I love my zf2, but it's now just being used as a music device. (128 gig)
Really dont care if it gets updated or not.
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no point even thinking about these phones anymore. I love my zf2, but it's now just being used as a music device. (128 gig)
really dont care if it gets updated or not.
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??
Sumit007s said:
Anyone here Asus's Official Beta tester ?
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One of the Beta Testers responsibilities is maintain confidentiality of the Beta Testing program.
Marteicos said:
One of the Beta Testers responsibilities is maintain confidentiality of the Beta Testing program.
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Yes i know that , but can atleast tell that they are testing Marshmallow builds .
waiting for M
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waiting for M
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Me too ?
i snort flour said:
I prefer 5.0 over 5.1.1 as 5.1.1 ran slower, had a less fluid system ui response and really didn't see any huge improvements anywhere other than it took less ram to run the system. Lollipop was just a horrible os and I would have been happier with kitkat personally.
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I like 5.1.1 more than 5.0. based on my experience with S6 edge.
Better memory management. Better SOT.
But it doesn't matter anymore. Let's hope we jump to 6.01.
I am glad we are getting the GMS patches rolled into Asus updates fairly promptly, and I haven't been one of those people angrily demanding version updates super fast, but it is getting ridiculous now. Can't believe how slow they have been. If they had already given us 5.1.1 then it would be forgivable, but to not even have got as much as a point update in nearly a year since launch is pretty abysmal. I mean, while we've been sat on 5.0, google have released 5.0.1, 5.0.2 (nexus 7 2012 only), 5.1, 5.1.1, 6.0 and 6.0.1. It really makes me doubt that I would buy another Asus phone.
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I found a video in a Facebook Forum Moto X LatinAmerica, and someone posted a video about a the Moto X 2013 its running a unofficial CM13 ROM (Android Marshmallow 6.0), there are no links in the description, does anyone no where I can get that ROM!!?
I Know it must be buggy but still I think its worth a shot :fingers-crossed:
Unfortunately, I couldn't post the video because I m a newbie, but the video is on Youtube labeled as Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow para Moto X XT1058
wow nice,maybe in 1 month they released the cm13 for our moto x
I saw that video too but no link?
The screen capture didn't have the navigation bar, which is a bit weird. Also, someone posted "Cm 13 X1", with a screen shot on G+ group MOTO ROMS. It looks like the developer wants his trusted sources to test it before other people
Go to moto roms Google+ join scroll down about an hour ago cm13 ghost android file host I'm downloading it now 20151223
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Might not boot there was a warning posted by someone that tried and complied by cm resources
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Stuck on M doesn't boot. Mighty try dirty flash
Maybe need to be on CM 12 for 13
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Maybe need to be on CM 12 for 13
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Not working either, guess we'll have to wait for updated cm resources.
Wonder why this is so hard when Samsung s2 has a working cm13. Now that's crazy lol
hi! the xda dev @Megatron007 has experimental build of CM13 , I can't make boot succesfull but anyone can try..
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hi! the xda dev @Megatron007 has experimental build of CM13 , I can't make boot succesfull but anyone can try..
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Ive tried some build from 20151220 and 20151223 from others and both dont boot.
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Wonder why this is so hard when Samsung s2 has a working cm13. Now that's crazy lol
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It just because there is only one professional and really skilled developer for our device left atm. I am thinking off Ethan Chen of Cyanogenmod and since he pushed a bunch of commits for cm13 in the last days i am sure we will see a official version for our device too. Perhaps at the end of january, like cyanogenmod announced to release the first stable version than.
Anyway i recommend not to be in hurry, unless you want a beta rom on your phone with probably a lot of bugs.
At least the latest kitkat and lollipop ports took nearly half a year until they were stable and full functional. Furthermore a lot of apps that needs some adaptions for marhsmallow.
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It just because there is only one professional and really skilled developer for our device left atm. I am thinking off Ethan Chen of Cyanogenmod and since he pushed a bunch of commits for cm13 in the last days i am sure we will see a official version for our device too. Perhaps at the end of january, like cyanogenmod announced to release the first stable version than.
Anyway i recommend not to be in hurry, unless you want a beta rom on your phone with probably a lot of bugs.
At least the latest kitkat and lollipop ports took nearly half a year until they were stable and full functional. Furthermore a lot of apps that needs some adaptions for marhsmallow.
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Ive also heard Megatron007 is trying to get something out sooner
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I send him email couple of days ago
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Ive also heard Megatron007 is trying to get something out sooner
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Yes, lets see. He already did some good work developing marshmallow for ghost too. :good: I confide in Megatron007 to do some exellent cm13/aosp rom ports again, like resurrection, bliss, .. as soon as they are ready.
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I send him email couple of days ago
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What is the date of his answer?
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Yes, lets see. He already did some good work developing marshmallow for ghost too. :good: I confide in Megatron007 to do some exellent cm13/aosp rom ports again, like resurrection, bliss, .. as soon as they are ready.
What is the date of his answer?
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CM 13 for ghost isnt out yet is it? Last one i saw was 20151228 and that booted then rebooted
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5 days ago, 24 december
I want in on this, waiting for a screen for my Moto X, could be in today but till then cant try it. Does anyone have the XT1050 version?
Been with Cyanogenmod because Motorola wont update the darn thing, Stock is still on
4.4.2....
Cant wait for Cm13, so excited to see it
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CM 13 for ghost isnt out yet is it? Last one i saw was 20151228 and that booted then rebooted
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Where's a link? I wanna try it
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Where's a link? I wanna try it
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Its not fixed yet. there is a red screen and it reboots over and over
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Its not fixed yet. there is a red screen and it reboots over and over
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Could it be for just one model or for all? Also haven't seen a cm12.1 updates in a few days, are they getting ready for cm13?
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/03...ng-out-to-some-galaxy-note-5-units-in-the-us/ Happy Note5 Users
Was about to post that too it seems it is only for AT-T atm, but i hope someone will share the firmware so we can flash. also why beta now? Note 5 should get operational Android 6.0.1 this month.
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Was about to post that too it seems it is only for AT-T atm, but i hope someone will share the firmware so we can flash. also why beta now? Note 5 should get operational Android 6.0.1 this month.
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Relax and don't expect that much
MM must require new bootloader and likely we can not expect using AT&T bootloader on out international variant (Otherwise we have MM for N920T since months now)
Also there is obstacle in development till samsung release new source code otherwise PA* firmware don't allow old recovery/kernel on base bootloader.
As an AT&T customer using an international Note 5 (920i), I'm completely shocked that AT&T has even begun beta testing this before July of this year. In truth, based on AT&T's track record, I wouldn't expect their note5 variant to official receive "M" until at least October - around the same time as Verizon customers.
Hopefully someone can pull the image and we can flash it!
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I have the update for AT&T. If anyone would be willing to walk me through it, I could try pulling the image.
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I have the update for AT&T. If anyone would be willing to walk me through it, I could try pulling the image.
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What's the performance like?smoother....snappier?
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Seems snappier to me. Touchwiz uses a lot less memory now. Not sure about the battery life since it's been less than 24 hours.
If you get a chance could you post some further thoughts after using it for a day or so. thanks.
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I have the update for AT&T. If anyone would be willing to walk me through it, I could try pulling the image.
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How did you get the AT&T update? Share-able?
You could try this:
research.net/r/BXSDVL6
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Seems snappier to me. Touchwiz uses a lot less memory now. Not sure about the battery life since it's been less than 24 hours.
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What makes you think that TW is using less memory? There are a LOT of misconceptions about memory use in android, and having more "free" memory is usually a BAD thing (as it means things are getting needlessly terminated.)
Before the update, the TW launcher was using around 130 MB according to "Running services", after it's using around 33 MB. The Samsung keyboard was using around 60MB before and 20 MB after.
this rom loading to n920c ?
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this rom loading to n920c ?
Note 5 SM-N920C Cihazimdan Tapatalk kullanilarak gonderildi
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No, this was released for the AT&T variant of the note 5...
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No, this was released on the AT&T variant of the note 5...
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I guess too much we'il wait
Note 5 SM-N920C Cihazimdan Tapatalk kullanilarak gonderildi
Hope the Canadian bell version gets the update sooner then later
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Before this gets out of hand which it somewhat already has.
YOU CANNOT FLASH THIS UNLESS YOUR DEVICE IS ATT! Just like the T-mobile one, you cannot flash unless you are AT&T!!!!!
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Has things changed since the old days of pulling the update.zip? If not why hasn't there been an upload anywhere yet? On ATT and anxious to try.
Ok guys i will tell u my experience with mm for installing it on my s6
I was on beta tester stage so i tested b1 ( 6.0 ) & b2 ( 6.0.1 )
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U can run any n5 mm fw on ur n5 even the usa one but u need at least mm bootloader & kernel then definitely u can install it on ur n5 , yesterday play with official mm for s6e korean one & just got it working on my international one by simply on i got from there system then flash it with beta bl & kernel & booted normally ..
So if u have bl & kernel of mm then u can install it other this just don't waste ur time guy's ...
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Let's talk about Android Nougat on the idol 3. At this moment, it really looks like we will get official cm this time around. After we get everything working cm-14 should be more stable. The only worries I have is radio and audio. As of now there aren't any known devices getting Nougat with a snapdragon 615 processor so getting updated blobs may take us quite a while a month or so. Or we may have to wait for a new device to release.
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Official cm 13 ? It would be nice to see that !
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Let's talk about Android Nougat on the idol 3. At this moment, it really looks like we will get official cm this time around. After we get everything working cm-14 should be more stable. The only worries I have is radio and audio. As of now there aren't any known devices getting Nougat with a snapdragon 615 processor so getting updated blobs may take us quite a while a month or so. Or we may have to wait for a new device to release.
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YU Yureka still have CM14, look at this: http://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/cyanogenmod-14-yureka-cm14-nougat-rom-update/
Yureka/Yureka Plus is SD615 platform ( very close to our 6045)
perhaps it could help you
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YU Yureka still have CM14, look at this: http://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/cyanogenmod-14-yureka-cm14-nougat-rom-update/
Yureka/Yureka Plus is SD615 platform ( very close to our 6045)
perhaps it could help you
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I know but without updated blobs you lose features and have to use workarounds
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Nothing about this project for nougat?
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Nothing about this project for nougat?
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Nothing yet on MM, and source was released half month ago.. So, nothing here too.
In short: Devs are busy, making custom rom or doing their own life projects, you can't know, and especially judge. All we can do right now is to be patient.
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http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-7-nougat-when-do-you-get-it/10/
Idol 3 5.5" its suppose to be upgraded to Nougat. Not the same lucky for 4.7 owners because of the Snapdragon 4xx and lack of support for OpenGL 3.1
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oh joy, probably get it around this time next year lol
Does anyone know how to rollback alcatel onetouch idol 3 5.5 to lollipop??? XD
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Does anyone know how to rollback alcatel onetouch idol 3 5.5 to lollipop??? XD
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This is not related to the topic. You've already created a thread.
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Not the same lucky for 4.7
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M would already be great for us european users
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http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-7-nougat-when-do-you-get-it/10/
Idol 3 5.5" its suppose to be upgraded to Nougat. Not the same lucky for 4.7 owners because of the Snapdragon 4xx and lack of support for OpenGL 3.1
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Let´s pray !
Maybe we will get soon Nougat Update?
http://www.bandwidthblog.com/2016/08/25/android-nougat-phones-first/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-7-nougat-when-do-you-get-it/10/
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Thanks god my Idol 3 came deffective and i had return to Amazon and got full refund.
Idol3 is still a fantastic phone, I'm still running marionette cm12.1 and 7 months later it still works perfectly. But if I were buying now, I'd probably go for something newer. However it'll be very hard to find another model with same performance and studio quality for the same price.
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Tapatalk - - > Alcatel OneTouch Idol3 5.5 (6045Y) Android stock 6.0.1-010-22
After I get a new power button, it's on! I can't turn on my device anymore it still works though...
Power button will be here in the next week or so.
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Power button will be here in the next week or so.
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Are you building Lineage or Resurrection Remix?
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Hey Guys , As we all know that Android N has been released for the Nexus devices and there are also Custom Roms released already for many of the other devices, So I created this thread for discussing about the Android N Custom rom for our device.
Pls dont pm in other threads asking for N...
The good news is we have good devs such as @Android-Andi , @Ziyan and also the Omni team. They are working on Android N.....so it would be helpful if people stop asking for N....and wait for a while
P.S
@Android-Andi @Ziyan Thank you for your hard work on making our tabs awsome....
Anyone???
Considering that MM is stable as a daily driver, I would rather wait for many months on NN to be stable enough although I'm skeptical at this point for OMAP developers especially @Android-Andi and @Ziyan to release Android N for our device since it's 4 years old now but I'll be hoping for what they can for it to happen, at least. I find MM sufficient for my daily usage already, just an opinion. ?
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I'm skeptical at this point for OMAP developers especially @Android-Andi and @Ziyan to release Android N for our device since it's 4 years old now
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If you knew about our work in progress....
Hah! You got me there ? Looks like it's possible after all, since I witnessed the progress of Android N on Gnex month ago, so it might happen for our device in the finest future. Gonna say, I'm grateful for you on helping @Android-Andi for dreams, on what we thought it's only just a dream, to become reality (A.K.A Android MM, kernel optimizations for stability, unified, etc).
Nougat for galaxy tab2
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If you knew about our work in progress....
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My 12 yr daughter uses my old galaxy tab2. As kids there is always a competition, who has the latest stuff. We decided, not to spoil her by giving her new devices. However, I upgraded her tab to mm and she was thrilled to be the first in her circle to get mm and that too a custom ROM. She wants nougat now . Stability is not an issue as she uses the tab for entertainment and doesn't mind me flashing it frequently. I do hope u guys Release Android nougat , it will make such kids really happy.
Yes! @Ziyan booted it like a month back(or perhaps the day source was uploaded )
Thanks so much both of you @Android-Andi and @Ziyan
if you thought our tab is old and lucky enough to get MM and N, what would you guys say about a ldpi device like samsung galaxy star running M and and a samsung galaxy s duos 2 running N already?
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Yes! @Ziyan booted it like a month back(or perhaps the day source was uploaded )
Thanks so much both of you @Android-Andi and @Ziyan
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What?! What is this? When? How? I have so many questions already xD
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What?! What is this? When? How? I have so many questions already xD
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Ziyan posted it a month ago.
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Ziyan posted it a month ago.
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Thanks. I've been searching but I can't seem to find it. Do you know where is it? Or maybe... Do you have a link? Thanks again!
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Thanks. I've been searching but I can't seem to find it. Do you know where is it? Or maybe... Do you have a link? Thanks again!
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you won't find it. its not released
People say that Nougat crashes more often than Marshmallow ......
Is it going to be the same with the customs roms???
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People say that Nougat crashes more often than Marshmallow ......
Is it going to be the same with the customs roms???
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no one knows. we must wait for the first build.
Excited
I'm pleased to see that the devs such as Android Andy and Ziyan are working on a CM 14 Nougat port for the tablet. I was skeptical if it would continue to be supported, but glad to see the developer community hasn't given it up yet Best of luck, hope to see a stable Android N release in the near future.
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People say that Nougat crashes more often than Marshmallow ......
Is it going to be the same with the customs roms???
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I think people saying Nougat crashes more than Marshmallow is a rumor :/ I mean latest updates are bound to have more bug fixes than their predecessors
While I'm really happy with cm13 (with OC), I'm down to be a tester for CM14. The work devs have done for this device for 4 years is godly.
Let's go
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Yessss!! Long live Tab 2!!!
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I think people saying Nougat crashes more than Marshmallow is a rumor :/ I mean latest updates are bound to have more bug fixes than their predecessors
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When it comes to custom roms on phones that are abandoned by the OEM, it's common that a new Android version is buggier for a while until the devs have ironed out some bugs. Needless to say, N runs like a rock (and rocket) on my Nexus 6. However, custom Nougat roms appear to be running fine on the trusty S3 already as well (although they're not finished yet). Hopefully the SoC on the Tab 2 follows along nicely as well
I am realy sorry to share that. Sony will not release 7.1 or newer version of Android for Z5. Already 7.0 released by Sony for some regions, but it was a big joke for all of us.
Stock Nougat features, it does not have more for a Xperia device.
I miss the freedom of Android after my Moto G and Nexus.
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It's time to buy Nexus 6p haha
What's the fount of your post?
I think it's better if you post the fount of your leak...
I also think that 7.0 could be the last official update for the z5 but may be not, 7.1.1 was release just a few months later than 7.0 so maybe recive the update
Fake news?
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The OPs source is simply from a post someone made over at the Nougat update thread.
I doubt we will see Xperia X features in future updates, but I don't think this will be the last ever update for the Z5 series phones.
Ill only belive this when Sony make and official announcement.
+1 for believing we'll see further android updates...Hopefully!
Yeah, this device was launched on SEP 2015, so don't had two years of support...
And Sony with its z devices (Z3 for example) start in 4.4 and jump to 5.0 - 5.0.1 - 5.1 - 6.0 - 6.0.1... And that's two years+ of updates...
So maybe (if we're lucky) can't wait other update ... And if don't happend, well, we still have lineage os
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Lineage Os doent have build for Z5
nikko0311 said:
Yeah, this device was launched on SEP 2015, so don't had two years of support...
And Sony with its z devices (Z3 for example) start in 4.4 and jump to 5.0 - 5.0.1 - 5.1 - 6.0 - 6.0.1... And that's two years+ of updates...
So maybe (if we're lucky) can't wait other update ... And if don't happend, well, we still have lineage os
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Not updated, still has bugs, not has own kernel, based MM kernel..
diegofarinello said:
Lineage Os doent have build for Z5
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Unofficial been available for over a month now!
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Hmm, on the page that shows all devices it does say this binary is "EXPERIMENTAL" for those devices. Maybe they will make one for Z5 later...
http://developer.sonymobile.com/open-devices/list-of-devices-and-resources/
My sources have told me that I will receive 7.1 on my Z5!!
TimAhKin said:
My sources have told me that I will receive 7.1 on my Z5!!
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Did your source told you if new features were also comming with 7.1? Or anything related to X series?
Thanks.
TimAhKin said:
My sources have told me that I will receive 7.1 on my Z5!!
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I hope so
They have listed 7.1.... same as 6.0.1... weird...
http://prntscr.com/e8u0el
7.1.1 is not a big update, i am sure we will get 8.0.
Only if qualcomm does not screw something like for z3 and other phones with 801 cpu's.
Remember z3 had nougat preview.
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spaha-bih said:
7.1.1 is not a big update, i am sure we will get 8.0.
Only if qualcomm does not screw something like for z3 and other phones with 801 cpu's.
Remember z3 had nougat preview.
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Not if 8.0 is announced after the 2 years of the Z5's release...
Do not kid yourselves, Z5 won't get 8.0, it is highly debatable whether it will get 7.1.1. at this point. I've owned almost every Sony flagship phone except the XZ and they typically got 2 major updates and that's it.
I'm seriously think about wait for the nokia 6
Why? Z5 is much more powerful device than Nokia 6, if you have one ofc.
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