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Different update for T-Mobile pure ?

Is there really a different marshmallow update for moto pure that's on t mobile ? That's why I bought an unlocked phone to start with. T mobile has always been bad about updates. Need answers please

No, update should be the same, only reason we haven't gotten it yet on T-Mobile is because T-Mobile hasn't approved/certified VoLTE/Band 12/etc for their network.

gamer765 said:
No, update should be the same, only reason we haven't gotten it yet on T-Mobile is because T-Mobile hasn't approved/certified VoLTE/Band 12/etc for their network.
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What's the implication of that for us here..would you install it by removing SIM & download over Wi-Fi or are you waiting for a more official rollout to T-mobile (or not installing it for other reasons people are complaining about like Wi-Fi+browser+call network issues)?

MM is running great for me. Sideloaded it when it was first posted as a soak test. That update was apparently for Verizon/Sprint users but look at the update being rolled out to AT&T users, its the same as the soak test. Either T-Mobile certifies the current update and we end up getting the same exact update as everyone else, or T-Mobile tells Motorola it doesn't meet their requirements and Motorola rolls out a new build with the specifications set by T-Mobile, which Verizon and all other carrier users will get also since the builds are not carrier specific and neither is the device.

gamer765 said:
MM is running great for me. Sideloaded it when it was first posted as a soak test. That update was apparently for Verizon/Sprint users but look at the update being rolled out to AT&T users, its the same as the soak test. Either T-Mobile certifies the current update and we end up getting the same exact update as everyone else, or T-Mobile tells Motorola it doesn't meet their requirements and Motorola rolls out a new build with the specifications set by T-Mobile, which Verizon and all other carrier users will get also since the builds are not carrier specific and neither is the device.
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Hmm so you've been running MM for weeks on MXP on T-Mobile with no issues & worst case scenario everyone would get another update later that meets T-Mobile requirements so no reason not to install?
What about the people complaining about slow browser performance-Wi-Fi-call-network issues?
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...prod_answer_detail/a_id/109124/p/30,6720,9541
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/product_page/faqs/p/30,6720,9541/#/how_do_i
-Thnx for your feedback

My browser works fine. I rarely get any issues and if there is any, it's just slight lag on this website. WiFi and calling is fine for me. I do get band 12 when I'm at work in certain areas but I'm on band 4 99% of the time

gamer765 said:
My browser works fine. I rarely get any issues and if there is any, it's just slight lag on this website. WiFi and calling is fine for me. I do get band 12 when I'm at work in certain areas but I'm on band 4 99% of the time
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So you have no regrets.. good to read.
I mainly use Boat+floating+Chrome browsers but occasionally use others..any ideas why people are reporting browser issues & you experience a slight lag only on this website?
Why is T-Mobile taking so long to certify the update?

Still no t mobile update. Thinking about pulling sim and doing update. But if and when t mobile certifies it will it update again any thoughts ?

Switched to Tmobile with my AT&T S7 edge how will I receive updates?

How will i get software updates now that my unlocked AT&T S7 edge now that I'm on Tmobile with it?

I'm in the same situation.
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I just got rid of my AT&T edge and got a tmobile one, I wasnt about to go to best buy and get updates all the time like I was told by samsung

You need an AT&T sim it doesn't have to be activated. Im using mine on cricket and got my latest OTA by putting my deactivated AT&T sim and using my wifi to download. I did have to check twice and reboot once to trigger the update. If you change the time in settings up a day you don't have to wait 24hrs to recheck for update.

AndreaCristiano said:
How will i get software updates now that my unlocked AT&T S7 edge now that I'm on Tmobile with it?
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I have an unlocked AT&T S7 Edge and use it both on Rogers and AT&T, I simply change the SIM depending on where I am. The updates still come from AT&T regardless of where I check for them.

Sword Fish said:
I have an unlocked AT&T S7 Edge and use it both on Rogers and AT&T, I simply change the SIM depending on where I am. The updates still come from AT&T regardless of where I check for them.
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you have an unlocked phone, the updates come from samsung no matter what sim is in the phone.

Milimbar said:
you have an unlocked phone, the updates come from samsung no matter what sim is in the phone.
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No, I have an AT&T phone that I unlocked and my updates come from AT&T.

Sword Fish said:
No, I have an AT&T phone that I unlocked and my updates come from AT&T.
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Fair enough.
You still get your updates when you have the AT&T sim in the phone.
I do not have AT&T service at all and am totally unable to get any updates.

Milimbar said:
Fair enough.
You still get your updates when you have the AT&T sim in the phone.
I do not have AT&T service at all and am totally unable to get any updates.
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I am in Canada with my Rogers sim installed and received the latest update from AT&T on Friday last week. I have received multiple updates from AT&T when in Canada with my Rogers sim installed since getting this phone.

Sword Fish said:
I am in Canada with my Rogers sim installed and received the latest update from AT&T on Friday last week. I have received multiple updates from AT&T when in Canada with my Rogers sim installed since getting this phone.
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I have been unable to get even one update on 4 phones with a Cricket Wireless SIM in.
I dont understand it, AT&T Owns Cricket, you would think it should work without any issues.

I have a very interesting question regarding on using tee AT&T variant of this phone on the T-Mobile network. As you may have noticed, AT&T is finally offering Wi-Fi Calling on their network, and this phone is compatible. My question is:
Does the T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling work on the AT&T variant of this phone?
Does the AT&T Wi-Fi calling work on the T-Mobile variant of this phone?

If you flash the U firmware, you'll get wifi calling, VoLTE, and OTA updates. There is a thread in one of the other AT&T forums that has instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3411451
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You could also go another route and flash the t-mobile firmware on the at&t variant, it works quite well and is the equivalent of the U firmware with t-mobile account management, voice mail, and features.

I have s7edge at&t ..it don't have any volte option
I want to enable volte option. On my mobile
If i flash sm-935U on my at&t will it activate VOLTE OPTION

If you switched to TMobile just ODIN the Tmobile Firmware and you will get the updates OTA.

how do i flash the tmboile firmware to my at&t s7 edge.. i have a att s7 edge and want to flash tmobile firmware to it and use on tmobile with wifi calling and the works.....any links with instructions and firmware. thanks

maddytech said:
I have s7edge at&t ..it don't have any volte option
I want to enable volte option. On my mobile
If i flash sm-935U on my at&t will it activate VOLTE OPTION
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Yeah you do, its under Connections/Mobile Networks/Mobile Data its called Enhanced LTE services....I actually shut mine off and its saving quite a bit of battery it seems and I havent even noticed a difference in phone call quality, seems kind of useless

you need to get or buy a Gophone simcard or buy a gophone (comes with Gophone simcard), just activate the gophone simcard, you dont need to pay money on it. i never able to get att software update using Cricket simcard but when i put a activated gophone simcard (no need to pay money on it), it lets me update to the latest att firmware ! funny, how gophone and cricket are owned by parent company att but gophone lets me update and cricket can NOT.

LG V20 US996 Updates vs carrier models-Wi-Fi calling?

Has the LG V20 US996 received any official OS-security updates, what about carrier models?
Can or can not Wi-Fi calling be enabled on the unlocked LG V20 US996 while the T-Mobile variant H918 Wi-Fi calling would be there by default & could be unlocked for use on other carriers?
Both http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan & http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20 list Wi-Fi calling with uncertain fine print..
" Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
** Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply. "
- Thanks for clarifying this with some real life experience

Bump, I would like to know about the Wifi calling as well.
I have yet to get it working on my unlocked H910 (T Mobile carrier).

Wifi calling and VoLTE features are controlled by the carrier and they will not enable these features on non-carrier devices. I'm assuming it's done this way to encourage people to buy their carrier locked versions.

McNutnut said:
Wifi calling and VoLTE features are controlled by the carrier and they will not enable these features on non-carrier devices. I'm assuming it's done this way to encourage people to buy their carrier locked versions.
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Works great on my unlocked Nexus 6P with a prepaid T-Mobile SIM (e.g. including on Airplane mode with only Wi-Fi enabled )..:good:
BTW, :laugh: name McNutnut

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Works great on my unlocked Nexus 6P with a prepaid T-Mobile SIM (e.g. including on Airplane mode with only Wi-Fi enabled )..:good:
BTW, :laugh: name McNutnut
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Did T-mobile sell a T-mobile branded 6P? I imagine they'd only disallow these features if they had a carrier locked version to sell of their own.
Thanks BTW

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Has the LG V20 US996 received any official OS-security updates, what about carrier models?
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I don't know about Wifi calling, but here is the latest from LG as of yesterday,
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This is a staff of LG Product Security Response Team(LG PSRT)
As you know, the latest patch was released at the last December.
Unfortunately, there is no further schedule for V20 (US996), but our dedicated team is still discussing about next patch schedule.
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LG's support for this phone has been horrible, Google's monthly security updates totally ignored.
I am shopping now for another brand that will update unlocked phones.
I like the features of the V20, but I am done waiting for LG to support it.

I'm running version 10h of the OS on my US996 which is on the April 1st Android security patch. I'm not sure if this update, or the previous ones, were offered via OTA. The images just kinda seem to pop up occasionally. See https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-us996-firmwares/ for the list. They seem to be making some updates, I'm just not sure where they're formally releasing them...

McNutnut said:
Did T-mobile sell a T-mobile branded 6P? I imagine they'd only disallow these features if they had a carrier locked version to sell of their own.
Thanks BTW
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I remember checking out the original Nexus 6 in a T-Mobile Store but it lost out when I compared it to the Samsung Note 4 which I bought instead. I think Google sold the Nexus 6P unlocked online only rather than at T-Mobile but Wi-Fi calling is supposed to be built into Android so perhaps when inserting a T-Mobile SIM it should become available when enabled in settings?
I also have an unlocked Moto X Pure that I could test but there were some issues with a prior update that I avoided installing but perhaps that's been worked out now that it should have Android 7. I'll look into that but anyone here has the LG V20 US996 or the T-Mobile variant H918 with Wi-Fi calling working?
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I'm running version 10h of the OS on my US996 which is on the April 1st Android security patch. I'm not sure if this update, or the previous ones, were offered via OTA. The images just kinda seem to pop up occasionally. See https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-us996-firmwares/ for the list. They seem to be making some updates, I'm just not sure where they're formally releasing them...
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Did you install your update/s from that link because the download count is somewhat uninspiring..?

daverup said:
I don't know about Wifi calling, but here is the latest from LG as of yesterday,
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This is a staff of LG Product Security Response Team(LG PSRT)
As you know, the latest patch was released at the last December.
Unfortunately, there is no further schedule for V20 (US996), but our dedicated team is still discussing about next patch schedule.
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LG's support for this phone has been horrible, Google's monthly security updates totally ignored.
I am shopping now for another brand that will update unlocked phones.
I like the features of the V20, but I am done waiting for LG to support it.
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Unlocked phones which get updated best would be Nexus'-Pixels, my Nexus 6P always gets the latest possible updates.. currently latest stable Build number N2G48B on 7.1.2 security patch level July 5, 2017 with the option for the Android 8 O Beta program.
December Why are some people reporting updates in 2017? How worried are people about older Android security patch levels or are they mainly annoyed about not getting the latest Android builds?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
I remember checking out the original Nexus 6 in a T-Mobile Store but it lost out when I compared it to the Samsung Note 4 which I bought instead. I think Google sold the Nexus 6P unlocked online only rather than at T-Mobile but Wi-Fi calling is supposed to be built into Android so perhaps when inserting a T-Mobile SIM it should become available when enabled in settings?
I also have an unlocked Moto X Pure that I could test but there were some issues with a prior update that I avoided installing but perhaps that's been worked out now that it should have Android 7. I'll look into that but anyone here has the LG V20 US996 or the T-Mobile variant H918 with Wi-Fi calling working?
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AT&T refused to enable Wi-Fi calling for me because the device isn't "certified". I'm pretty sure the phone is perfectly capable of supporting Wi-Fi calling, the carrier just refuses to enable it. Unfortunate :/
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Did you install your update/s from that link because the download count is somewhat uninspiring..?
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I extract the updated partitions from those update files and flash them via TWRP. You could of course use LG UP (I think) to flash the KDZ, which is a the method used to recover a bricked device, but takes it factory resets. I've run 10f and 10h from that site with no issues on AT&T.

McNutnut said:
AT&T refused to enable Wi-Fi calling for me because the device isn't "certified". I'm pretty sure the phone is perfectly capable of supporting Wi-Fi calling, the carrier just refuses to enable it. Unfortunate :/
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The AT&T store is where I went to check out their carrier model of the LG V20 because they are closest. T-Mobile network is actually best of all where I'm most often so I use their SIM. T-Mobile I've heard tends to be more relaxed than AT&T about enabling Wi-Fi calling in general but can anyone confirm this &/or anyone with the T-Mobile or AT&T carrier model or US996 confirm Wi-Fi calling ?
McNutnut said:
I extract the updated partitions from those update files and flash them via TWRP. You could of course use LG UP (I think) to flash the KDZ, which is a the method used to recover a bricked device, but takes it factory resets. I've run 10f and 10h from that site with no issues on AT&T.
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Good job but how long does all that take? Android really is so fragmented..are OTA updates really that difficult to push out like my Nexus 6P gets..why doesn't Google better address all the fragmentation-mess out there?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Unlocked phones which get updated best would be Nexus'-Pixels, my Nexus 6P always gets the latest possible updates.. currently latest stable Build number N2G48B on 7.1.2 security patch level July 5, 2017 with the option for the Android 8 O Beta program.
December Why are some people reporting updates in 2017? How worried are people about older Android security patch levels or are they mainly annoyed about not getting the latest Android builds?
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I can do without the latest Android version, but I do want Android monthly security updates.
I've had Nexus phones in the past and will look at the Pixels, or maybe wait for the new Pixel XL.
The Moto Z unlocked has gotten routine security updates, so I'm also looking at one of those or the newer Z2.
Headlines this morning about LG leaking a V30, just make me sad. A nice shiney new LG that will never get a security update.

McNutnut said:
AT&T refused to enable Wi-Fi calling for me because the device isn't "certified". I'm pretty sure the phone is perfectly capable of supporting Wi-Fi calling, the carrier just refuses to enable it. Unfortunate :/
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Well, you could always use the poor man's wifi calling - Telegram - it works great and you can call anyone in the world for free! (as long as they also have Telegram installed)
The calls are really clear, just like a regular mobile call, and did I mention this is FREE

McNutnut said:
AT&T refused to enable Wi-Fi calling for me because the device isn't "certified". I'm pretty sure the phone is perfectly capable of supporting Wi-Fi calling, the carrier just refuses to enable it. Unfortunate :/
I extract the updated partitions from those update files and flash them via TWRP. You could of course use LG UP (I think) to flash the KDZ, which is a the method used to recover a bricked device, but takes it factory resets. I've run 10f and 10h from that site with no issues on AT&T.
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So you used the US Cellular Rom. Did it have any bloat? Did you get FM radio?

so i'm assuming my VS995 (verizon) variant phone won't be able to use WIFI calling since i'm currently on a T-Mobile plan ?

guapinoy said:
So you used the US Cellular Rom. Did it have any bloat? Did you get FM radio?
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So far I haven't seen the kdz files on lg-firmwares website contain anything US Cellular specific, even though some of them appear to be indicated for the US Cellular model. There's no carrier bloat (minus LG's) but the FM radio is still not available.

Wow, I'm really embarrassed for LG! One would assume they would update the Unlocked version of the V20 MORE ..because they don't have carriers which have to approve the update. This is Pathetic!!!!

warwagon19792 said:
Wow, I'm really embarrassed for LG! One would assume they would update the Unlocked version of the V20 MORE ..because they don't have carriers which have to approve the update. This is Pathetic!!!!
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What's LG's excuse? Will the US996 or any V20 ever officially get Android 8/O?
I notice in my new US996 a 637.05 MB update Version US99610f mentioned at https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70431731&postcount=2 , any reason not to update it?
Regarding this thread's subject: I did notice my T-mobile Wi-Fi calling was enabled in QuickShortcutMaker but when I turn on Airplane mode then only Wi-Fi I can't receive calls but if I turn off Airplane mode then only Wi-Fi on (i.e. Mobile data is off in Networks) calls go through so I'll have to test over Wi-Fi where I get no T-Mobile signal but my Nexus 6P does get calls over Wi-Fi in airplane mode with only Wi-Fi enabled..
Also the V20's Wi-Fi hotspot works on my Windows 10 PC only with WPA PSK security but when I try WPA2 PSK my PC says the PIN is wrong while another Android phone can connect with WPA2 without issues (Nexus 6P Wi-Fi hotspot with WPA2 security worked with the same PC)..

Security updates are needed like a fire hose is needed and not providing them puts LG at risk of Class Action Lawsuits if "something" happens IMO based on personal experience working with an expert witness over the years. Not having the updates known creates a target to go after.

Using AT&T carrier unlocked GS8 on T-Mobile

I recently got a AT&T GS8 which I got carrier unlocked since I have T-Mobile. I'm having issues with using Wi-Fi calling, video calling and getting GS8 system updates. Is this the crutch of using a different carrier phone on another network?

Samurai Fenix said:
I recently got a AT&T GS8 which I got carrier unlocked since I have T-Mobile. I'm having issues with using Wi-Fi calling, video calling and getting GS8 system updates. Is this the crutch of using a different carrier phone on another network?
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AT&T's firmware is a bit different and normally to take full advantage T-Mobile's features, you would need to flash their stock OS. Just read treads below and see which one could benefit you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/switch-to-carrier-firmware-100-t3609487
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unlocked US Cellular S8+ on ATT

Hi,
I see Samsung has sales on S8+ from US Cellular for less than the one from ATT.
If I buy the US Cellular one and insert my ATT SIM, it should rebrand it as an ATT phone right?
At that point, will it work and behave just like an ATT phone or will ATT block/prevent the stuff like VoLTE/HD voice/visual VM etc as it is not a true ATT branded phone?
thanks

It is unlikely to work that way. After you purchase you will need to have US Cellular unlock the phone. If buy it outright, they may do that but you will want to check with them first. If you buy it unlocked as mentioned in the title it should be ok.
Once the phone is unlocked there is no reason it wouldn't work on AT&T, but it will not rebrand itself. You will need to load AT&T branded firmware on it to take advantage of VoLTE.

ZuluAlpha said:
It is unlikely to work that way. After you purchase you will need to have US Cellular unlock the phone. If buy it outright, they may do that but you will want to check with them first. If you buy it unlocked as mentioned in the title it should be ok.
Once the phone is unlocked there is no reason it wouldn't work on AT&T, but it will not rebrand itself. You will need to load AT&T branded firmware on it to take advantage of VoLTE.
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Are you sure? From what I've read 1) US Cellular phones after a certain date come unlocked (forget the exact date but it was before the S8+, so nearly certain it is unlocked) 2) the US S8/S8+ will rebrand based on the inserted sim (from the galaxy s8 reddit PSA announcement old.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/7jdcno/psa_with_the_latest_us_carrier_updates_your_phone/ )
So it will brand and push ATT firmware
That's why I was asking specifically if things like VoLTE would work in case someone else has done this. It seems ATT is more restrictive about allowing certain features than other carriers

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Are you sure? From what I've read 1) US Cellular phones after a certain date come unlocked (forget the exact date but it was before the S8+, so nearly certain it is unlocked) 2) the US S8/S8+ will rebrand based on the inserted sim (from the galaxy s8 reddit PSA announcement old.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/7jdcno/psa_with_the_latest_us_carrier_updates_your_phone/ )
So it will brand and push ATT firmware
That's why I was asking specifically if things like VoLTE would work in case someone else has done this. It seems ATT is more restrictive about allowing certain features than other carriers
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That may be true of US Cellular, they do seem to be pretty customer friendly. I had interpreted that the device will configure the hardware to operate on whatever carrier's SIM is in, but not the firmware. However, I have not tried this with mine. I do have a branded S8 that I have put unlocked firmware on and it stays on that firmware.

If the phone is not carrier locked and you put an AT&T sim in it, then it should work on the AT&T network. You will NOT get VoLTE/HD calling or Wi-Fi calling. Regular calling and LTE+ data will work fine.
It will not automatically download the AT&T firmware and become an AT&T branded phone.
I do not know what will happen if you put the AT&T firmware on it. I asked if anybody had switched to the AT&T firmware and gotten VoLTE or wifi calling, but did not receive any answers.
I have an unbranded phone on AT&T. I've not gone through the trouble of switching to the AT&T firmware.

J M L said:
If the phone is not carrier locked and you put an AT&T sim in it, then it should work on the AT&T network. You will NOT get VoLTE/HD calling or Wi-Fi calling. Regular calling and LTE+ data will work fine.
It will not automatically download the AT&T firmware and become an AT&T branded phone.
I do not know what will happen if you put the AT&T firmware on it. I asked if anybody had switched to the AT&T firmware and gotten VoLTE or wifi calling, but did not receive any answers.
I have an unbranded phone on AT&T. I've not gone through the trouble of switching to the AT&T firmware.
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Have you gotten theat&t firmware to work on your phone?

fredwhocares said:
Have you gotten theat&t firmware to work on your phone?
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I have not tried. Other than VoLTE and wifi-calling the phone works perfectly, and I've never had to reset it, so I've not bothered to try and change firmware.