im interested in buying the asus zenfone 2 laser, the 5.0 inches display, since i can only spend around 200€, i went for a deep search on some stores on my country and some of them told that the rear camera has 8mps or 13mps, as you can see:
gsmarena:
(can't provide links) - ze500kl as 13 mp on the rear camera
(can't provide links) - ze550kl as 13 mp on the rear camera
fnac:
(can't provide links) - ze500kl (8mp rear camera)
(can't provide links) - ze550kl (13mp rear camera)
a portuguese store:
(can't provide links)- ze500kl (they said that he has a 8mp rear camera)
(can't provide links) - ze550kl (they said that the 5.5 inches display version has a 8mp rear camera )
i would like to know the real specs, and if the 13mp camera has a huge diference between the 8mp camera version and some samples.
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i have the ,8 mpx camera, quality is often far to be acceptable. Macro are always very good thanks to laser focus but in general rumor is high and quality not high as it could be (i came from galaxy s3, i may be vitiated)
let me hit this up.
I am really curious myself.
i have a laser 2 5.0 and the specs are really confusing whenever i search online.
i hope someone would enlighten us.
Please...
It's Asus that messes up with the devices naming schemes.
There are two types of ZE500KL:
- the models with 8Mpx camera and 2070mAh battery;
- the models with 13Mpx camera and 2400mAh battery.
Asus attach a second model identifier to the main model name, but it's usually omitted.
For example, my phone is ZE500KL-1A224WW and it's a 13Mpx model.
In Italy stores sell only 8Mpx models so I buy it from Spain, that seems the only European country where you can find the 13Mpx models.
For ZE550KL there is a similar situation, with some models that uses Snapdragon 410 and other Snapdragon 615, but they are all ZE550KL.
I think that big differences like these should change the main model name, to generate less confusion.
BubuXP: I have a 13Mpix and 2070 mAh battery, czech market
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The main challenge that most manufacturers face in having a fully functional camera onto a cellphone is FOCUSING on a moving object.
I have read quite a bit about this stuff - how camera cos find ways to sharp their edges with more innovations in achieive perfect focus in esp moving object and low light situations. A lot times certain new buzz "keywords" get introduced ( maybe that technology is actually sitting there )... question is DOES IT really help in improving a picture quality
or just upping the camera cost ?
There are lots of articles on this topic.
Here is one to begin with http://www.phonearena.com/news/5-fancy-phone-camera-autofocus-technologies-from-lasers-to-phase-detection_id67109
-- Laser Gided
-- Isosensors like in Samsung S5
-- Phase detection
- contrast detection
- Infra red etc
- Exmor sensors etc
So I am looking at the cameras of three phones and trying to figure out which one gives the best picture. I want some idea from folks who have used each of these at some pt of time .
Xperia M2 8mp
Its got the best sensor
Vs LG G3 Beat D724 ( 8 mp ) laser focusing system - good buzz but tell me - in real life does that laser AF really help capture moving objects any better than
samsungs or song's . Cos the laser has to travel and reflect back to give the info about moving objects. It might help in low light
What kind of sensor tech does it use ? the same sensor like in xperia M2 ?
vs LG G3 D690 ( 16mp ) - the same phone minus laser but add twice the MP.
Vs
You name ______________ ( suggest me some names if you have any ) of a similar Price range camera phone ( iphone 6 and samsung s5 won'rt fit the same bill as these ...so
remember price range and camera quality )
Talk about the pro's and cons of each and lets narrow down who is the winner - if there is 1 .
What doing a thread of Xperia M2 around here
This is a Xperia Z2 forum.. Remember !
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Hi,
I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, recently, there was a review of this smartphone at DPReview, mainly due to the camera being 13Mpx with Phase Detection Auto Focus, on such a cheap smartphone.
And I was wondering, how can I identify the Camera Sensors on this phone?
There has been a teardown of the phone, and below is the picture of the sensors found:
myfixguide dot com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-Teardown-16.jpg
The thing is, this references don't lead to anywhere... I've searched the net for them and found nothing... On Xiaomi's publicity, sometimes the sensor is publicized as being from Samsung or OV (Omnivision), this is never good, as we never know really what is the sensor we have on our phone...
And I've seen my share of Chinese Smartphone manufacturers that say they put sensors from Sony, and then it's Omnivision or Samsung (if your lucky), or else it's "Sunny" or some other small time chinese sensor brand...
What called my attention was, that for a smartphone so "cheap" (base model costs aprox. $125 in China), they put a 13Mpx PDAF sensor on it...
But I'm not sure both Omnivision and Samsung produce sensors with the same specs, also, from the picture below, it looks like the sensor might in fact be from "O-Film", another relatively lesser known sensor brand (check: o-film dot com)
Both sensors seem to have similar codes:
OMI BA 08
OMI 5F 05
So it looks like they might be sourced from the same manufacturer, but looking at the references, I'm afraid if they aren't really a 8Mpx sensor, interpolated to 13Mpx... Because of the "08" in the reference of the back sensor, while the front one has "05" which corresponds to the frontal camera spec of 5Mpx.
Can anyone help me identify the real sensor inside my phone? Thanks for the help !
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Edit:
the sensors are http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/cmos-image-sensor/mobile-cis/S5K3M2?ia=217 and http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=150
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
sunbriel said:
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
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Thanks for the tip !
In my case, I have:
- Back camera: the Sunny made S5K3M2_2ND (probably a clone of the Samsung ISOCELL S5K3M2, maybe this is their 2nd version clone or try...)
- Front camera: the Ofilm OV5670 (a clone of the Omnivision OV5670 probably)
I wonder if these clone brands have as good quality as the original ones...
Been looking on Chinese forums about this topic. I myself don't really care, but it slightly caught my interest. They are saying that the sensor is Samsung's and the camera module is Ofilm's or Sunny's.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
Same here. The picture quality at day rivals those of much more expensive phones and the phone focuses fast enough for me - so the question on whether it's original vs a clone, or whether the PDAF is a real or fake one is purely academical to me. As for how such a "cheap" phone can have such features, it's simple: the companies charge huge margins. Just look at Sony's M5, it's essentially the same phone with more megapixels (though, tbh, not really better image quality) and costs around 500€. You're paying about 300€ just for the brand and pixels.
It's not a clone. Here is one of the links where it is explained what it all means: www.miui.com/thread-2916880-1-1.html
Use Google translate, you'll understand the general meaning. Basically, it's like I wrote in my previous post.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
I'm not saying it is a clone, I'm saying I wouldn't care even if it is.
I was responding to the OP, though.
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I have Sunny cameras (rear & front)
Front camera shot clean pictures in good light condition.
Rear camera is a little bit noise and macros are not perfect (you must stay at least at 10 cm from the subject in order to get a good macro) but autofocus is very fast
The problem is video FPS
I noticed that it drops dramatically in low light condition, from 30 to 22 so shot video lags
And in your?
I noticed that with miui 7 we now have slow motion so somewere around 90fps. ( you have to be in hd not in full hd to get this option).
Hello i own laser zenfone 2 laser ZE500KL , here in italy it is sold with a 8 mpx camera while the same model in spain and guess in the rest of the world with a 13 mpx camera. I have seen website www.asusparts.eu sells the 13 mpx camera module and it says it is compatible with my model. Do you think i could just replace my 8 mpx with this 13 mpx one or it will not work?
I don't think it will work. It's not just hardware, but software too.
Asus ZenFone 2
The Asus ZenFone 2 is Asus' latest Android smartphone, due for release in Q1 2015. It's the first smartphone packing 4GB of RAM (some models feature 3GB depending on region). It is powered by a 2.3GHz 64-bit Intel Atom quad-core processor, and comes with either 16/32/64GB of internal storage. The Zenfone 2 camera has a 13MP sensor with F/2.0 aperture and auto-focus lens. The front facing camera features a 5.1MP sensor and has a 85-degree wide angle lens. The device is backed by a 3000mAh battery with fast-charging technology. You can see full specs for the ZenFone 2 here.
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This forum is created well before it's released anywhere but now it's released, it's time to change it!
Maybe like this :
The Asus ZenFone 2 is Asus' latest Android smartphone, released in Q1 2015.
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Hello Guys,
i have the Problem that no App can make Pictures with 48MP Resolution.
I had to wait for 196 hours until the Mi-tool has unlocked my Fon. It is an insolence from xiaomi imposing such a compulsory break to the customer. Some of the older Redmi Customers must wait 1440 hours, i had read. But i say nothing, the Price for the Hardware i bought is good
So i tested the Fon for 196 hours and the Pictures i made with 48MP they were very good an big (14-18 MB/jpg File).
Since i installed TWRP 3.2.x.x and Ressurretion (RR 7.0.2 from 29th Aug.) since then i can make Pictures with maximum 12 MP (3000 x 4000, 5-7 MB/jpg File). There is no way to make higher Resolution. It doesn´t matter witch Cam App i use.
I have not found any Kind of fix or People that has the same Problem.
I am not sure if i have installed the right OS. I installed RR-P-v7.0.2-20190829-lavender-Official because i had read that lavender is the right Software for Snapdragon 660 and Adreno 512 GPU.
violet is not the right one, isn´t it?
Questions over questions..............i hope you can help me.
Sorry for my bad english !
Best regards from Germany
48mpx photos can only be captured with MIUI Camera which is available only on MIUI rom. For custom roms there is Miui camera port called ANX camera 48mpx works but pictures arent as good.
Thank you for you´re help. Now i am Happy
.........ANX camera 48mpx works but pictures arent as good.
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Who has tell you this? It isn´t the Truth.
The Pictures with 48MP (8000 x 6000) look very good. I can´t show you Pics because i can´t Post attachements and i can´t post external Pic-Links.
The Pictures has a Size over 10 MB, and on the PC they look really good!
The Files i installed with TWRP are:
- ANXCameraMagisk_94.ComfortableMulticoloredNoctule.zip
- ANXCamera94_48MpFixed.zip (this Thread is helping you)
After the installation you have the App "ANXCamera", start it and be happy
Redmi Note 7 doesn't have a real 48MP sensor. It's 12MP (primary sensor). That's why third-party apps only offers you 12Mp as the max resolution.
The camera software (Stock ROM) applies a binning effect (technology), combining 4 pixels into 1 (big). Then, the software resizes the image to generate an equivalent image as 48MP (size), from a 12MP.
If you take a look at the specifications of the CPU (SoC) the device uses, it doesn't allow cameras with higher resolution than 25Mp. So, Xiaomi, and other brands too, needed to use this technology to allow the device to generate "virtual" 48MP images.
If you want to take good photos, I would recommend you to go for cameras (not compact if possible), not smartphones. As their sensors are much bigger, so better quality and light they can capture. Sorry.
Trying to help
CrashOverride93 said:
Redmi Note 7 doesn't have a real 48MP sensor. It's 12MP (primary sensor). That's why third-party apps only offers you 12Mp as the max resolution.
The camera software (Stock ROM) applies a binning effect (technology), combining 4 pixels into 1 (big). Then, the software resizes the image to generate an equivalent image as 48MP (size), from a 12MP.
If you take a look at the specifications of the CPU (SoC) the device uses, it doesn't allow cameras with higher resolution than 25Mp. So, Xiaomi, and other brands too, needed to use this technology to allow the device to generate "virtual" 48MP images.
If you want to take good photos, I would recommend you to go for cameras (not compact if possible), not smartphones. As their sensors are much bigger, so better quality and light they can capture. Sorry.
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That is not real. Indian RN7 has 12mp Sony sensor but chinese Redmi Note 7 has Samsung GM1 48mp Isocell, so there are 48 million physical pixels BUT in Quad Bayer arrangement (4 pixels are in the same red, green and blue filter), technically you can shoot 48MP photos in stock camera and YES, the soc (SDM660) allow 48mp photos in normal mode, not in ZSL (Zero Shutter Lag), photos in 48mp looks sharper in bright conditions (i tested that) and contains high noise levels on low light, anyway that 48mp are not the same as a 48mp regular bayer filter.
I hope this helps, i could be wrong. You can find [Samsung GM1 48MP] and [SDM660] specs on google.
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